Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy The Twelfth Purification

[@Suspiria115]

One of the most divine and epic cutscenes

[@kiritoxyronie2841]

Cosmos calling WoL by his name right before being attacked always gives me the goosebumps

[@rhokaji]

I didn't pay attention to this, so she basically called out his name. What's his name canonically anyway?

[@kiritoxyronie2841]

@rhoka-G I forgot tbh... Only her, Shantoto and the other girl know his true name because they all give him the name before the 12th cycle started

[@kiritoxyronie2841]

@rhoka-G Also thats why you cant hear Cosmos calling because it was supposed to be a mystery.

[@rhokaji]

@@kiritoxyronie2841 Such a cool detail

[@kiritoxyronie2841]

@@rhokaji Yep it was very cool

[@AccipiterSmith]

The original opening cinematic of Dissidia 1 has little to no context on why Cosmos and Chaos' warriors suddenly went into battle and why WoL ended up lying unconscious after that, it was finally answered here in this cutscene.

[@jadentran9895]

yeah SE should have make this game before the original dissidia. I guess it's for marketing since the original dissidia is like unfinished and not a lot of contents like this one does. NT is a huge disappointment though

[@dablazingbryan5559]

@@jadentran9895The OG was made as a celebration, so I wouldn’t say it was unfinished. This one is just more of an extension and is much more content packed.

[@iabugueno]

Only place on KZbin I've found this amazing CGI. Not even the movie cutscenes compilations of the game seem to include it ;/ Thanks for the material!

[@megakazuya123]

Nobody "dies" in Dissidia, when they are defeated they are returned to their worlds. Chaos/Cosmos summon their champions to fight against the other side to compete for dominance. -Chaos is victorious = Chaos to all FF timelines. -Cosmos is victorious = all FF timelines proceeds as intended. During Dissidia (Duodecim), some members on both sides defected to the other for personal reasons, or essentially gave up because they refused to be pawns. When defeated, they are returned to their worlds and it counts as a victory for the side of the winner. ___ In Duodecim, Lightning and her group sacrificed their "lives" (participation) to empower Cosmos to basically reset the tournament, as they were losing due to it not going as planned. They were returned home and essentially could not appear until the second Dissidia event (NT).

[@sckaze777]

i agree with everything except with the if chaos wins, all ff timelines are doomed. i think its just chaos in the world they are trying to rule aka World B

[@kamenridersalim4450]

If Chaos wins he's just going to reset the conflict. No matter who won, Cosmos or Chaos, the cycle will keeps going on to continue because Cid Lufenian had made a pact with Shinryu that he's okay with his "son" being used as God of Discord; Chaos, so he can finally get revenge to everyone who killed her wife in FF I world. The reason why Lightning and the Duodecim gang not appear on the final cycle is not because they're dead but because they're soul has burned so hard through the fighting to seal the Rift that it can't be used nor restored for the next cycle. You can the difference how they're fallen with white smoke, indicating that the souls they used in this World B are reaching its point. If you read the reports it's also explained that Cosmos and Chaos isn't a real "god". Cosmos is a manikins of Cid Lufenia's wife and the mother figure of Chaos while Chaos is a weapon created by Cid for the Lufenians to conquer the world.

[@kamenridersalim4450]

Everyone finally going back to their own world's at the end of the cycle not because they're dead, but simply because there's no reason to. They killed both of the "Gods", making there's no one who's going to maintain the cycle, thus as "parting gifts" they returned to their own worlds. However, the main problem of this conflict cycle; Shinryu, was still exists. They didn't know about his existence nor his part on the cycles. So, as final attempt to gain the energy he wanted from the cycle that has been broken, he drained the life-force of World B which makes Cosmos's heirs; Spiritus and Materia, born into this world and summon again the characters of Final Fantasy series to fight each other in NT so they'll can maintain the world's existence that needed the life-force that was born from the battles of endless cycle conflicts.

[@futurewarriorhero123]

i like to believe lightning, tifa, kain, vaan, and laguna went back to there own worlds. albeit in an indirect method.

[@tekcrimsonblitz]

That's what I understood about that cutscene. They were removed from the cycles by Shinryu, and sent back to their own universes. Maybe the same happened to Shantotto, Grabanth and Prishe in previous cycles 🤷

[@kiritoxyronie2841]

They kinda did actually..I mean some of them returned on the NT.

[@megakazuya123]

Nobody "dies" in Dissidia, when they are defeated they are returned to their worlds. Chaos/Cosmos summon their champions to fight against the other side to compete for dominance. -Chaos is victorious = Chaos to all FF timelines. -Cosmos is victorious = all FF timelines proceeding as intended. During Dissidia (Duodecim), some members on both sides defected to the other for personal reasons, or essentially gave up because they refused to be pawns. When defeated, they are returned to their worlds and it counts as a victory for the side of the winner. ___ In Duodecim, Lightning and her group sacrificed their "lives" (participation) to empower Cosmos to basically reset the tournament, as they were losing due to it not going as planned. They were returned home and essentially could not appear until the second Dissidia event (NT).

[@shinrasenseishadow1575]

​​@@tekcrimsonblitzthere are official side quests in duodecim which adds lore and extend story. Shantotto decides to reseign from her role as cosmos warrior. She left, then destroyed many portals, met with garland fought him. Was about to kill him but then a rift portal opened as she planned so and that's how she left. Gabranth, after a battle against garland and the emperor was sent to the rift by Shinryu, as he opposed to the cycles. He eventually meets Shantotto here, outside of the cycles realm. Prishe simple vansihed after garland take down Cosmos in a certain cycle.

[@typical6274]

I don´t want to see Lightning dying like that :((((

[@Kob3Wan]

The last look that Lightning gave to WoL just screams of: "It's up to you now"

[@exiaax]

I’ve never seen this cutscene before but i know about the mannequins, seeing them in that FFXIII LCie crystal style just cinches the fact that this is THE Ffxiii debut into the grander mythos lol. It’s so cool to see in the grand year of 2024

[@dablazingbryan5559]

The fact they all die here at all makes me sad.😢

[@i.sephiroth]

What happened to them?

[@kanoslayer2735]

The ones that don't make it to the 13th & final cycle are consumed by the Dragon you see coming down from the sky. Its the same one that the summoned Chaos uses in the Final battle

[@dendroson]

The Suicide Squad (Lightning, Laguna, Vaan, Tifa, Kain, and Yuna) were eliminated by the Manakins but they successfully destroyed the Gateway to make the 13th Cycle Even. Cosmos and the other warriors of Harmony were revived by Shinryu for the 13th Cycle. But their memories about what transpired in the 12th Cycle along with the Suicide Squad were gone.

[@Everlarke]

I'm going to assume you understand the basics of the Cycles. Up until this cutscene, there had been 11 of them and Cosmos' side lost each and every one. A big reason behind thst was because of the access and production of Mannikins that Chaos' side had; I forgot how they got them, but they have them. Realizing this, the Warrior of Light and Kain decided to attack and defeat their allies to start the next Cycle (the 13th) earlier in hopes they'd be able to win that time around. Somehow. That's why Squall, Zidane, Cecil, Bartz, Onion Knight, and Firion aren't there; Tidus, Cloud, and Terra were all on Chaos' side during this time too; Shantotto's off doing her own thing, not giving a damn. Oh, and Jecht, the final "newcomer" for Cosmos, had given his life to save Tidus' earlier in this Cycle; so that's why he's gone. Lightning figures out the WoL and Kain's plan when they both try to defeat her, and fail. She then decides it's better to even the odds for future Cycles by stopping the production of Mannikins completely. To do so is practically suicide though, due to the sheer number of them where they're produced. But, Tifa, Vaan, Laguna, Yuna, and Kain all decide to fight alongside her rather than wait for the next Cycle to try again. The WoL stays behind to defend Cosmos incase Warriors of Chaos try to attack her directly (and end the current Cycle that way). En route to the Mannikin stronghold, several Warriors of Chaos (Garland, Mateus, Ultimecia, the Cloud of Darkness, Kefka, and Exdeath) try to stop Lightning's squad. Her team wins, but it greatly exhausts them...which is one of the reasons they end up dying against the Mannikins. BUT not before successfully stopping the production of future Mannikins. Despite that, the advancing party of Mannikins on Cosmos are too great for the WoL to stop alone (which we see). So, knowing that defeat is imminent, Cosmos sacrifices herself and ends the 12th Cycle (but not without taking out several scores of Mannikins). After that, it's time to revive the heroes for the next Cycle. Since Lightning's party were killed by Mannikins, they can't be revived for the next Cycle (which explains why they're all absent in 13th Cycle/the first Dissidia's story) as they didn't die according to the rules. So, they all got to go home actually, while the others were revived to fight; Lightning entrusts the rest to the WoL, hence her smile to him before fading. To help replenish the lost Warriors, Shinryu (who organizes the whole thing) takes Cloud, Terra, and Tidus and puts them with Cosmos for the 13th Cycle. While there are still leftover Mannikins from the 12th Cycle, they're no where as many as before. So, this time, the Warriors of Cosmos have a much better chance statistically (and finally win, ending the Cycles permanently).

[@damidre]

⁠​⁠@@Everlarke Excellent explanation. If I recall correctly, it’s not Chaos’s warriors who create the mannequins. In one of the Reports, it’s elaborated that the production of the mannequins was done in World A (the world where the characters come from and where the stories of every final fantasy take place, also the place of origin of Cosmos, Chaos, and the Great Will) and that they could take the shape of people, however, they where thrust into the Rift and sealed there. When the cycles begin in World B (Dissidia’s setting) the warriors of Chaos find the door to the rift and open it, allowing the mannequins into the conflict.

[@viviwrecks2658]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@damidre" (Asking for clarification) "They" being the production of Manikins in world A? Or Chaos, Cosmos and the Great Will? Which specific ones were sealed in the Rift?

[@adiatrahman7218]

Warrior Of Light true leader and hero❤

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Tifa 😭

[@inesatt1313]

This is not good...