Hi Jesse, loved this episode as much as I love star anise. I’ve been making an infusion for a digestive for years I call “What the Pho’?” using all the spices of the Vietnamese soup, Pho’. For 750ml, that’s about 4 cardamom pods, 4-6 star anise, 2 tsp coriander, 4 sticks cinnamon, maybe 1/2-1 tsp cloves, 2-3 thumbs ginger, and I add ~4 slivers of licorice root for sweetness. No sugar. If you don’t overdo the spices, it gets better as it sits, but 3 weeks minimum.
@weaktearecords2 жыл бұрын
I made some with anise and fresh roasted coffee beans. Coffee ☕ and licorice flavor work really well together
@wysestone2 жыл бұрын
100% agree, did this a month or so ago myself.
@JakeSmith-ps4vr2 жыл бұрын
definitely gotta try that!!
@kruseyjr12 жыл бұрын
I need to try that
@McNuggets882 жыл бұрын
Please share how you made it! This sounds great!
@jakebenoit1458 Жыл бұрын
I accidentally discovered that coffee and licorice (anise) flavors blend really well together. I was making cotton candy and when switching flavors, sometimes they blend a little. Well with both of the strong flavors, I was afraid, but I ended up eating the clump of mixed flavors, so as not to waist, and well, let's just say I just do it on purpose now, and not with just cotton candy, I've made ice cream, gum drops, lollies, and even a little star anise in the coffee pot.
@rossnesbitt9722 жыл бұрын
The Spanish version of this (Anis del mono) I've always 'Irished up' my coffee with. It's amazing
@StillIt2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@bevharrod18292 жыл бұрын
Mate . Started watching your videos about a month ago.. went and brought an air still . Going to start distilling my second wash today.. thanks for the content
@annakingsley67732 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! 😊 I love black jelly beans and prefer my spirits straight, so no mixers or ice for me. If you do decide to dance with the green fairy and make absinthe at some stage and have trouble sourcing the fresh stuff, I grow heaps of wormwood for my chickens so let me know and I can get a bunch to you. Same for anyone else local too. In Wairarapa, New Zealand. Cheers!
@TrizzaW2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'd love to see an absinthe video 😍
@klatlap2 жыл бұрын
I watch a youtube on this stuff the other day and woulfd love to give it a go.
@Q_The_Rabbit2 жыл бұрын
After removing pits from 3kg of cherries, I used a macerating juicer on them & 250gm fresh pealed ginger. One each liter of invert syrup & sorghum syrup, pulp from cherries & ginger, & water to OG 1.079. 12gm WY3711. It is now bubbling away happily. How I do love my Still Spirits AirStill
@Geeker0112 жыл бұрын
Just putting it out there, pomegranate and licorice goes REALLY well together!
@Kstella22262 жыл бұрын
Like pomegranate molasses?
@nzlemming2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Loved black jelly beans forever and Ouzo since I was old enough to buy it. No-one steals your drink at parties.
@richardharris50832 жыл бұрын
I like it with lemonade. Love The colour change .
@mickjojic11412 жыл бұрын
Been watching for a while and just got gifted an air still , this was super educational for me .
@MrCornel4542 жыл бұрын
Grate video Jamie. I would love to see you try coffee this way
@StillIt2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude thats a good point. Will be interesting to see what carries over!
@sanbe7292 жыл бұрын
Hey Jesse! could you make some high proof green absinthe?
@StirlingLighthouse2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't absinthe make the heart grow fonder? Lol Good idea! 👍
@richardharris50832 жыл бұрын
Yes please 🙏 . Good choice 👌
@peronik3492 жыл бұрын
You talked about the Greek drink (ouzo) but all around the Mediterranean Sea (for countries that tolerate alcoholic drinks) there are probably a hundred drinks with star anise. Each manufacturer putting their personal touch to the local recipe which remains centered on star anise
@hydare2 жыл бұрын
Not ouzo rakı! This is Turkish drink not greek!
@juliecole38612 жыл бұрын
So love your descriptions of taste, its perfect as I feel like I'm almost tasting it with you and it makes me chase the taste more intensely. Cheers mate!
@stillfrugal66182 жыл бұрын
I too love black licorice especially the ‘jelly belly’ brand. As well,l love me some Jager. So what a nice easy way to make a lovely aperitif.
@MeirbhinOConaill2 жыл бұрын
Jessie mate @11:07 thanking the patrons, edit missed the name list. I always think that's a classy touch. Love the videos
@Rubberduck-tx2bh2 жыл бұрын
Black licorice RULES! Hey Jesse: would topping up with some water in the boiler stretch out the hearts some more?
@zeldasmith10882 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a still and you have the one I think I am going to invest in that thing is simple to use.
@Nexummusical2 жыл бұрын
Made it, taste it loved it! Thnk u for the recipe. Can you explain why its get a white colour when it gets cold? (Not frozen ;)
@Phryxil2 жыл бұрын
Such a slick and easy little kit, thanks for the links!
@thehoppyhour62972 жыл бұрын
Great video Braj!
@hectortheotaku30222 жыл бұрын
Green absinthe sounds excellent 👌 👍😏vote for that
@josecorchete37322 жыл бұрын
More than glad to help you with the algorithm as you help me understand how alcoholic beverages work 🤗
@barrygiddey9139 Жыл бұрын
Sweet combination
@ericdellamater75832 жыл бұрын
Love it. Hit a flavor that I truly love. Nice videos. Your getting so much better
@Osmocote2 жыл бұрын
BLACK LICORICE FTW! I'm gonna try this.
@oggyraverbabyghost5 күн бұрын
I made a honey mead with just star anise & it tasted really good, I’ve not even tried or thought about distilling any alcohol yet but have been experimenting with mead for a few years & found 2 that are really good one made with star anise & another with morello cherries (which I’ve only tasted as my wife drinks it before I even get a glass)
@peterevenhuis26632 жыл бұрын
Here in Greece, I distill grapes with star aniseed in a steam basket above it as simple as that and amazingly good. No sugar the raw product on ice.
@johngoodwin68002 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. On my list list of to do things, with my next batch of moonshine.
@wldtrky382 жыл бұрын
I've always liked black licorice. This looks interesting, may have to give it a try. I have to order star anise, like most ingredients, no local supply.
@deborahduthie45192 жыл бұрын
If there is an Asian Indian food spices supply shop around, you can buy half pound bags of good quality Star Anise, rather cheaply compared to Health Store, or the cakes cooking section in your local grocery store. I filled a bottle with the Star Anise, filled it up with Gin then poured sugar to the top of the fluid. I left it for 3weeks and the nicest Zambucca Liqueur have tasted. Very rich and smooth.
@wldtrky382 жыл бұрын
@@deborahduthie4519 The consequences of a small Midwestern town. 1 1/2 hour drive to Kansas City to find anything like you mention. Thanks for the heads up and the recipe !
@brendanwhite1042 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to tasting this one!!
@heinobrummer1044 Жыл бұрын
I love watching this channel 😁
@connorperkins6412 жыл бұрын
I like the orange idea. Maybe it would go good with some cointreau as a shooter? I'm thinking of flavours like in tiger tiger ice cream.
@roytelling65402 жыл бұрын
not started watching this yet! BUT YOU ARE A MIND READER!!!! Been at friends all day just got back, and I was talking about using Star Anise with my still and wounding what it would be like. the reason it came up was I just made Singapore fried rice and that has star anise in it. NOW going to watch this and see what you say
@caverryan2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Ouzo is super tasty. Add it to ice and swirl till it goes cloudy; really brings out the flavor. If you have a go at a real ouzo, I’ve got a great anise seed based recipe with other botanicals that tastes like the real Greek thing. Been distilling it 10L at a time, probably my favorite drink.
@MinnicogLife2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you share your recipe? I love ouzo and I’ve been looking to make it
@Basim_Daoud2 жыл бұрын
Arak actually is a bit better then ouzo
@caverryan2 жыл бұрын
@@MinnicogLife Sure! Can't claim that I made it from scratch. It's based on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn2lnoWvrqeirrM. But, his botanical weights are too small. It's all personal taste, but I've found that these masses more closely match commercial ouzo, Metaxa in particular. 15 g anise seed 7.5 g star anise 7.5 g fennel seed 0.75 g cardamom pods 0.75 g whole cloves 0.5 inch cinnamon stick 10 g sugar 1 L vodka/neutral/grappa Roughly crush all spices, except sugar (DON'T GRIND, will make an unpleasant bitter flavor if you grind to a powder). Add to 1 L of 40% ABV vodka or other neutral (or grappa, if you can get it). Leave to macerate overnight. Strain into boiler and distill. There is an unpleasant acrid flavor that comes off with the "foreshots/head", but otherwise I don't make cuts, just run down until no more flavor is coming over. Proof to 40% ABV, add sugar, and let set for about a week before drinking. The sugar is personal taste. I like 10g/L, my wife likes more like 50g/L, my brother likes no sugar. Because of the anethole (a natural sweetener) it actually tastes fairly sweet without the sugar. I've also recently started adding 20 crushed coffee beans in with the botanical; very tasty, but not traditional. Seems like you could also skip the 24 hr masceration and just chuck it, spiced and all, into your boiler and go, but I've never tried it.
@caverryan2 жыл бұрын
@@MinnicogLife If you try it, let me know what you think. It's definitely a work in progress. I feel like the cardamom amount might be a bit on the high side.
@Obi_too_kenobi2 жыл бұрын
I would love to have your recipe Just started with distling and made a nice coconut 🥥 rum certainly for a first distiling
@davidelourenco25372 жыл бұрын
Here in Portugal we have Escarchardo that is something in this field but it takes a lot more sugar that will cristalize in the bottle.. Its great!
@popefacto59452 жыл бұрын
How do you drink that? Do you mix it or just take as an aperitif?
@davidelourenco25372 жыл бұрын
@@popefacto5945 usually after a meal, neat and in shot glass portion since it is very sweet. Very popular with the ladies. Lol
@popefacto59452 жыл бұрын
@@davidelourenco2537 I'm intrigued. Will have to look it up. Thanks!
@jeckwhite90992 жыл бұрын
Super interesting. Thanks Jesse!
@baijokull2 жыл бұрын
I made my first proper gin yesterday and I had some star anise so I added what I thought was a small amount of it to my botanicals. Turns out I made a VERY anise heavy gin :D Not what I meant to make but not bad at all!
@dimsimjimpym2 жыл бұрын
Same with a recent gin I did! One star anise in 4L of 40% and it cut through everything
@StevenRowe-ps9vd2 ай бұрын
No bloody air quotes thank you very informative I'm going to try both star anise and aniseed through the baby still tomorrow I really want a Pernod
@BESHYSBEES2 жыл бұрын
I found the lower abv pulls out wood flavour, I use azeotropic 96% soak for a couple days then water down
@martink97852 жыл бұрын
I lovelovelove aniseed 🥰 it's been my full time flavour for my tobacco avoidance device. Must make this sometime soon 👍
@johnblack95822 жыл бұрын
you convinced me :) just bough a refractometer ive never heard of the before :) could you do ouzo next ??? ive been wanting to do ouzo but have no idea where to get some aniseed bush.
@RiggerBrew2 жыл бұрын
use Olive Nation Anise Extract and you can balance the strength to Vodka. Also Sambuca is with Stare Anise and elderberries.
@beetz19792 жыл бұрын
I did one batch with 90+% tpw and one batch with 80% molasses rum, the rum was by far the tastiest. Soaked the star anise for 2 weeks in both, strained, diluted both to about 35% with spring water and a little sugar syrup, chilled and enjoyed
@jek__2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried ultrasonic vibration? Ultrasonic vibration as a method of rapidly barrel aging alcohol is being adopted by large production companies right now. According to tasters the rapid aged whiskeys doesn't get all the full flavor profile of a long barrel age, but it's much tastier than it would be had it just sat in the barrel. Apparently just a few minutes in the ultrasonic vibrator with some wood chips is similar to hours or even days just soaking. I tried this once with some cheap vodka and whiskey barrel chips. It's weird, but fun! The outcome tasted like whiskey flavored vodka lol. For something like this where the goal is to steep a plant material in alchohol i think an ultrasonic vibrator might have an interesting and useful effect. You can get a cheap ultrasonic vibrator for $20 sold as a jewelry cleaner, though theyre often fairly small and might limit you to 0.5l batches. There are of course much larger ones but they get expensive. You seem to tend to do weird off the wall alcohol experiments so that seems possibly up your alley ;) Ginger might be a fun additive. Ginger vodka could be a nice way to make fortified ginger beer, if youre into that
@kevinw.8240 Жыл бұрын
try making arak! its fairly easy and tastes amazing. As soon as you mix it with water it turns milky white and tastes like black licorice.
@denisdendrinos45382 жыл бұрын
My fiance is going to LOVE this..... Nice one Jessie. Be interesting to see a proper ouzo being made - something I want to try but my new still too big and the small one was... well... inefficient at best.
@Schoolofmonkey2 жыл бұрын
I finally got around to making this, it's freaking amazing, but I added 5g of licorice root along with the 20g of Star Anise, it tastes so close to Oozo, my wife doesn't usually like licorice type dinks, but for some reason she loves this, she's only had it with Lemonade, but she's wanting to try it in a lemon based drink too.
@ryantaylor81952 жыл бұрын
whereabouts can I buy one of those alcohol metres?
@coconutfleetsleeper57172 жыл бұрын
Raspberries, cherry and pomegranate all goes great with star anis each on their own, never tasted a destilate with them combined tho, might be awesome...
@TheNumbers4002 жыл бұрын
Neat for sure. But raspberries and black licorice are made for each other. Def something to try.
@patricioarte Жыл бұрын
Delicious drink recipe with "Ouzo" called "Thalassa" (Goddess of the Mediterranean sea, meaning sea in Greek): A shot of "Ouzo" or anise liqueur, a shot of vodka, top up with pineapple juice. Serve in a Margarita or Martini glass with ice cubes or frozen ice. Spread half a dose of "Blue Curaçao" on top and add an orange slice for decoration.
@ryanblystone51532 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@wysestone2 жыл бұрын
I want some! Love me some black jelly beans!
@madwilliamflint2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. Suggests a whole new line of experimentation.
@scottcampbell962 жыл бұрын
Try this with a lemon twist. It might be an odd combination, but I like it.
@Basim_Daoud2 жыл бұрын
Arak and Ouzo are made first from grapes then the anise is added in
@psylerious2 жыл бұрын
You should try a version macerated with 190 proof vodka and see if there's a difference in the flavors extracted. I did a project once trying to make chartreuse and I macerated some ingredients at 190 and some at 130 proof. I didn't distill since it was just for a liqueur but it was interesting how the colors and flavors were different after a couple days
@neiluldrick14162 жыл бұрын
Hey Jesse... love your content! One of the things you mentioned in this video caught my attention... that the most pure anise flavor came at the beginning of the run and then trailed off. I've 'heard' of that happening with runs of fermented fruits as well (not macerations, but rather actual mashes using fruit). Any advice on how to maintain that bold initial fruit flavor across the run? Keep up the great work!
@workhardplayhard801 Жыл бұрын
I recommend starting with a few videos on making a fruit forward wine , like when you make black berry wine and it taste like wine not black berry , not that. You want to start with a finished wine that taste like black berries. I think there is a second pitch of fruit after the yeast calms down a bit, maybe the thinking is that alot of flavors are being carried away with the CO2 . I also need to watch a couple of these videos 😀. Also on a forum I scimed over there was mention of using a column in lieu of a pot still for brandy , something about compressing the heads and tails increasing the amount of hearts collected and even shifting where some of the fruity esters and other fruity terpenes fraction out into distillate, in other words being in the hearts not in the heads or tails . That said, the local liquor 🧚♂️fairy(if you know ,youknow😀) added a flavor infuser to the thump and filled it with a fresh peach puree and high quality peach schnapps dumped it twice once at start of , & second time guesstimate 1/2 way through the 💕 hearts. This definitely drives the fruit into the finished product and produced super tasty results some might claim it's cheating but if you don't have a column still, it will absolutely make a very fruity finished brandy. 🥂cheers
@gamingdad872 жыл бұрын
Looks delicious, ill be making some. Ill be drinking it straight though. I prefer my spirits neat. Although I did make your lemoncello recipe a few weeks back, and man that stuff is delicious with solo.
@steviebboy69 Жыл бұрын
One thing I tried was putting 1 piece of a Choo Choo bar in a small amount of around 40 % ABV Vodka and it tasted like from memory Sambuca. It was sweet and Aniseed like and the spirit was a dark grey/black colour after steeping till the piece of bar dissolved. I don't know if they have the Choo Choo bars in other countries, but they have been around for ages in Australia.
@deankundrata23002 жыл бұрын
Off topic a little Jesse ,but have a question about adding banana to a gin basket it's a 4-in basket I'd like to run a rum with a banana flavor.. Do you think a 4in x 8in would carry enough flavor over in the sprit with it placed at the top of my column? 26 gallons of wash ran straight through the basket. Will it work or muck up my run?
@olinseats40032 жыл бұрын
So. Funnily enough, I used star anise, clove, and cinnamon with a little bit of oak to try to repair a bad run I made several months ago. I think it picked up an acetobacter in the late stages of fermentation, and I opted to distill it anyway. it threw some weird bitter flavors and had this oily cloying mouthfeel. So yeah. unpleasant. Hitting it with the strongest spices in my cabinet was sort of a last ditch effort to salvage it. I've been checking on it for a while and about a week ago I realized that It just finished maturing. It is absolutely delicious now. Anise does give it a flavor profile very similar to something between ouzo, sambuca, and absinthe. We made some amazing cocktails with it last weekend. I wound using it similar to absinthe and cooked up a recipe sort of like a Necromancer if you didn't want to spend a lot of money on all the specialty booze in the recipe. I ditched the Lilet Blanc and the elderflower liquer and replaced them with a cheap chardonnay and Master of Mixes brand Frose drink mix (think of it as strawberry peach sour mix) starting with a gin rinse in the glass and then mixing 2 parts white wine, 2 parts mixer, and 1 part anise spirit in a shaker and pouring it over ice. It was a nice balance of fruity and spicy without being overpoweringly boozy. Something about the sweetness from the mixer and the hint of botanicals from the gin rinse neutralized a lot of the heavy anise overtones and the oak in the spirit combined with the dryness of the chardonnay gave it a more clove forward flavor.
@the_whiskeyshaman2 жыл бұрын
I’m one who can’t do black jelly beans. But I love that you made the video
@colinmacvicar25072 жыл бұрын
I drink Sambuca with orange juice. You get some weird looks at the bar when you asked for it but it’s really good.
@roelofprinsloo39522 жыл бұрын
I do a molasses rum aged on cinnimon, nutmeg and clove (halloween rum) that is amazing ,may try distilling again to see what happens
@davidhinderliter5952 жыл бұрын
Sounds delicious! Might we take this and your recent botanical rum video as a possible lead up to a Jesse style absinthe experiment? Wink wink, hint hint!
@duncanjames9142 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! At 3:00 you mentioned "a whole lot of Anise Seed balm". Did you also add Anise seed or was it just Star Anise? Thanks!
@rabidraccoon12012 жыл бұрын
AEC! Id love to see vapour extracted pastis.
@StillIt2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm thats a interesting one my dude
@elricthebald2 жыл бұрын
Had some star anise steeping in 48% for a week. (Have multiple herbs/spices steeping to make extracts to add to my homebrewed mead.) Damn, that stuff is mighty powerful. And as expected it turn completely opaque when proofed down. But very drinkable with some simple syrup. P.S. Anise in hot milk makes an amazing nightcap.
@stephenclifford39712 жыл бұрын
Ouzo is best with a splash of warm water!
@danhunt34662 жыл бұрын
Gotta love some anise
@IanHorne19602 жыл бұрын
It appears you have influenced a few to go out and buy the air still. I bought one too. I already have the Turbo 500 copper and boiler but this will be ideal for smaller runs. Is it safe to double this recipe??
@nudgenz38312 жыл бұрын
I just made it, turned out lovely with 20gm sugar, thanks Jesse. What could be done to add some colouring? Add some black jellybeans? Your thoughts..
@nudgenz38312 жыл бұрын
Poured into a shot glass, added an ice cube, and it louched, went white, so all sorted.
@flyingwombattv2 жыл бұрын
Cracker vid as usual mate! U reckon some cocoa nibs would pair nicely with this one? Also think u may have forgot to add ur patroons big blue list of names near the end there? Or maybe it’s just not showing up on iPhones
@TheKruse6012 жыл бұрын
Please do ouzo. Best after dinner drink ever
@AvrahamYehuda2 жыл бұрын
Hi jesse, thank you for the video. Could you mention the ambiance temperature at your shed? Recently I purchased the same mini still as yours and i think at certain temperatures she doesn’t work well.
@pingu999912 жыл бұрын
I feel a pumpkin spice meme spirit coming in the autumn lol. I know you've done that flavour before but the air still seems perfect for making a low effort seasonal cocktail spirit that'd be accessible for newbies.
@benmac9402 жыл бұрын
It's the middle of winter, you've got a long time to wait for autumn
@allanrichard3987 Жыл бұрын
Knowing what you know now about heating the gin botanical in the air still and covering for two hours, would it work better for this as well?
@arni19752 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse, loved the video....have you considered adding a touch of salt?...like in some of the Dutch licorice?...just an idea lol
@adamjackson822 жыл бұрын
You're not far off with the anise/orange combo. A Harvey Wallbanger uses Galliano L'Autentico (vanilla and anise forward), vodka, and orange juice, and is one of the most popular cocktails of all time. 🙂
@jeremylastname8732 жыл бұрын
Perhaps try it with some cold clear water?
@fxopl60412 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the series Master Destillers (on Dmax in Germany)
@HBCrigs2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if sweetened with molasses and not white sugar if it would be like straight up licorice
@TheAlanFletcher2 жыл бұрын
I am using star anise with some distilled sake, how do you work out how much sugar to add, Also really enjoying the videos, fun and very informative at the same time
@andyn35322 жыл бұрын
I'm just two weeks into brewing a star an8se mead and was thinking of fortifying it with a bit of neutral spirit
@jakebenoit1458 Жыл бұрын
I have 4 children and they all know to save me their black jelly beans because they are my favorite.
@smntsn2 жыл бұрын
Make Turkish "raki" . So different taste but good when bacon on grill and acidic foods like pickle or... Tip: It must turn white when adding water :))
@zatravelexpress33972 жыл бұрын
When i did stilling my 50L still had a 5L thumper where i dropped my star anneseed ending up with a nice liquors flavour.
@patximartel2 жыл бұрын
Galliano (liqueur with strong anise and vanilla flavours), OJ and Vodka is a Harvey Wallbanger
@bevoburn2 жыл бұрын
i don't like black licorice, but i love me some Ouzo and Arak. Would a TPW be a good base spirit for that?
@pauljackson56022 жыл бұрын
I have mine over ice but it also goes well with black current. I don't add the sugar when I make it.
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
I am totally on board with doing a real Ouzo. The stuff I can get here just isn't the same as I had in Greece.
@OffroadButcherBBQ2 жыл бұрын
Keep it straight, after dinner, your on the money
@crabmansteve68442 жыл бұрын
20g star anise 20g aniseed 15g fennel seed 10g licorice root 7.5g Angelica root 1-2 cloves 1 small cardamom pod Let it macerate in 2l spirit for at least 48hrs. Distill, sweeten to taste.
@perjessen52092 жыл бұрын
Jesse, "ouzo properly" is a slight misnomer. Ouzo is essentially industrial ethanol with "glykanisou" added for flavour, mostly popular with tourists. Instead, for a truly traditional Greek spirit, look up tsipouro, which comes with or without glykanisou.
@kamoboko862 жыл бұрын
Give me a run down of your most basic starter kit. That small still and a hydrometer to test apv?
@boredbakedpanda42072 жыл бұрын
You should distill loose leaf tea into a sweet tea alcohol.
@needleofsaltАй бұрын
should try mahia sometime when you have some appropriate fruits, dates figs jujubes, to hit with anise. probably hard to find a recipe
@needleofsaltАй бұрын
anyway we drink a lot of arak either neat or iced with 2:1 water to Arak, might try just sugar
@oomwat61012 жыл бұрын
When are you going to make absinthe?
@StillIt2 жыл бұрын
It's coming! I decided I needed to bring in a expert to do it justice