Disturbed Forest - The Forsaken Science of Healthy Forests

Learn some truth about scientific forest management and the benefits of a diverse forest to meet the basic food and shelter needs of wildlife. Join today to help make a difference for forest wildlife- www.ruffedgrousesociety.org/join

[@peterh4446]

Paul Smith’s College forestry guy here. This video is spot on. Also, managed forests sequester 400 times more CO2 than natural succession forests. This is an important and overlooked statistic.

[@prettynimbleforafatkid]

What year did you graduate? 2012 Wildlife guy here

[@notthatguy4703]

Why would it sequester 400 times more? That doesn't make sense

[@granteditslifeoutdoors.9194]

There needs to be more healthy forestry conversation like this in Canada and USA. Well done.

[@brianbierman5389]

Different species require different habitats. Rabbits love rough land like mine. Rabbits don't like old growth. Wildlife needs a mix of old growth and young growth to thrive.

[@firescout2]

I agree that early-successional habitat is in peril and that logging is a valuable forest disturbance. However, the removal of wildland fires from the landscape in the last 100 years is arguably the most significant ecological change in history. Great video in many respects, but it falls short in providing the viewer with alternatives to logging to create (and more importantly, maintaining) these necessary habitats.

[@fieldmarshalfidget6876]

Also, many areas where the grouse are native have been modified. In the northeast, the growth used to consist of mainly coniferous trees. These trees would cycle faster than modern deciduous that took hold after the mass timberings at the turn of the 20th century.

[@Stumpjack]

Excellent!

[@steveww1507]

this is true i hunt in south eastern Mass we have we have big pine and oak with a lot of deer and turkey . but no grouse or cotton tail rabbit

[@20cameron1]

Love the video. The DNR here in SC mountains is playing politics and it’s hurt the grouse numbers so much do that some say they are extinct here.

[@donaldrobert6805]

Great video a well managed forest is better for everyone people and wild life very educational and Interesting thankyou

[@hazy876]

So happy Northern New Hampshire still allows the cutting. So much wildlife in the paper mill lands. Watched Vermont stop the clear cutting and the Hares and grouse are diminishing quickly. Unfortunately New Hampshire wants to turn hunting into a rich mans sport with license increases on pheasants yet land they stock is diminishing.

[@notthatguy4703]

I say set aside the few remaining tracts of old growth and wetlands we have left, manage the rest

[@falconer5830]

Here in Oregon we used to never, ever have forest fires, but back then we did a lot more thinning out in the forests. Now everything is heavily regulated and these recent years have been records for forest fires. The chetco fire was a national concern recently, and the applegate fire was ginormous... Beautiful country. Sad to see the people who really don't know about the forest regulate it. It's the same thing with hunting bears and cougars with hounds, back then predator and prey levels were pretty balanced. Now since the people who know nothing about hunting banned that, predator numbers are incredibly high and they reign terror over prey and there is not nearly the amount of deer, grouse, and whatever like there used to be.

[@lastEvergreen]

Just because you are used to something being one way doesn’t mean that’s how it is naturally.

[@falconer5830]

@@lastEvergreen naturally doesn't mean better lmao

[@lastEvergreen]

Better is subjective. What you want is good for you but doesn’t work for everything else. Lmao

[@falconer5830]

@@lastEvergreen good for nature actually? and i happen to want the best for nature

[@falconer5830]

@@lastEvergreen i guess not everyone wants a plentiful forest system where everyone benefits

[@WingsnBones]

Need to some how teach and convince the public that timber harvest is so beneficial. Until then, its an uphill battle against the, "environmentalists" that know little about how an environment actually works..

[@bdmatzek5060]

In New Brunswick, on the other hand, the cutting of over 50% of the provincial lands and forests in the last 20 years is simply EXCESSIVE and destructive.

[@nkralli4]

true!

[@kevinbunn9358]

Excellent. Gas development in PA is driving this process in many areas while providing enormous economic benefits. I see where I hunt...

[@lastEvergreen]

Let it burn. Let the beavers dam. That’s the natural way. Anything else isn’t going to work.

[@mkricko]

Deer destroy young forest. Need to hunt more

[@scottschaeffer8920]

I see, so, professionals who are trained, and work in natural resource stewardship & ecology know nothing? Wrong! Alas, The Ruffed Grouse Society is not a hunting agency-it is a 501c3 non-profit conservation organization, it has no authority over state hunting seasons, dates, bag limits, etc. Does your home consistent of wood products? Your furniture? Your floors, Your bookshelves? Guess what? That saw-timber. and or veneer came from a forest. Anymore, our state resource departments are one of the most enduring owners of contiguous forest-everything has been converted or is under threat of conversion! They need to manage forests for all species, and all stake-holders. This must include young forest, and the prudent use of controlled fire included. Early successional species pave the way for oak, hickory, etc. Aspen is just one important one, even-ager sites will include lots of other species. Excellent video!

[@markpaul-ym5wg]

Before white man started settling here,and after for 200 years,grouse were so numerable that they sold for 1cent a piece in new york and other cities.Indians killed them by the basket full with rocks.I think the enviorment has some,but not really much to do with species becoming rare,but not extinct.The situation has everything to do with the signs and wonders of the begenning of the end times.That statement should make a lot of sense to those who study the bible.The same has to do with global warming.No matter what we do,we cant stop prophecy.😊

[@azservices]

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[@matthewghabel5473]

This video is trash propaganda from the logging industry (im an arborist).

[@notthatguy4703]

It's not. Certainly fire would be a better option than logging, but succesional forests are very important nowadays, especially when many of the major disturbances that used to effect forests are no longer at play

[@Jemalacane0]

It's a large stand of a single tree species. So, it's pretty shitty.

[@strangedaze1468]

This is propaganda for the timber agency. What this video doesn’t tell you is that mature forests are home to a vast diversity of species and while fires and destruction is important, what we do isn’t. Cutting trees and quickly growing more consumes large amounts of energy from soil microbes and fungus that hold the larger side of life together. The removal (at our rate) of old growth causes weaker systems and will be eventually lead to collapse of life as we know it. Life is not about a few species of birds thriving, before consumerism there was much more diversity and planet health. Logging like this is for profit only. The forests are worth protecting. Look up the real science behind the connection forests have. Start with mycorrhizal fungi.

[@Hydrophilic]

Completely false. Just because really bad logging exists does not therefore mean there is no good logging. The early seral successional stage tends to be more biodiverse than other stages. Many examples of tribes keeping landscapes in disturbed, early seral forms through intentional, annual use of fire. Leaving things alone is just as dangerous as clear cutting everything.