Dive Detectives Episode #6 - Warships Down

Explore the Hamilton and Scourge shipwrecks resting under 90 metres (300 feet) of water at the bottom of Lake Ontario off Port Dalhousie, St. Catharines, Ontario. Join the 2009 Underwater Survey team led by Parks Canada Underwater Archaeology Service and ASI Group along with professional divers, Mike and Warren Fletcher.

[@bugzybullz]

Ngl them complaining about this small RV bumping into the "delicate window" really dragged and you can tell the dude was like "why did y'all call me for"

[@daneaxe6465]

What really drove home the swiftness of the sinking, was the inside view of the water pouring in. Those sailors never had a chance if they were sleeping. Rushing water has so much more power than people understand unless you've been in it. Even if awake your chances would likely be near zero, unless you're right next to a hatch and react swiftly. Even then the timing would have to be right, because with the ships being near 90 degrees the water pressure would be pushing the hatch doors closed. In total darkness with bodies and objects flying around inhibiting or blocking you. All the familiar "landmarks" are no longer in the right place just paints a scene of inescapable chaos. Its truly an amazing miracle even 8 survived the sinkings and then survived the storm in the water.

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

Cool footage of the wreck itself. I respect that it’s a war grave, but that Canadian guy seems to be freaking out a bit much over a sunken shipwreck. I don’t think the tiny rov is gonna break it when it’s survived so much waves and everything. But I’m not a Canadian gov egghead so idk

[@silvertbird1]

The state of preservation is remarkable. RIP to the men lost, God knows every detail of their passings. I understand Jonathan is concerned about not damaging anything, but I thought he was overcautious and actually stressing the mini ROV operator. If the ships are going to fall to pieces eventually, then it seems worth the risk to gather whatever info can be had now. I suspect most of the crew would be glad to be remembered and not view this as disrespectful. Their spirits have moved on anyway.

[@hippymommy87]

As a Michigander who spends summers in the great lakes I can attest to the sudden and violent storms. These can be frightening from the shore, I can't imagine being on board a shipnwhen one is happening. Once my family was enjoying a beautiful sunny day with small waves. In around 10 minutes the waves went from 4-5 ft to 2-3x that and the heavens opened up. We only live a mile away and we're forced to take shelter in a fish cleaning station and the rain was nearly parallel to the the ground. Roughly 10 min later it was a light drizzle and 1 hr later the sun was out again. Now imagine the snow storms, blizzards are insane but the aftermath, the ice on the piers and lighthouse points is absolutely gorgeous to behold.

[@urbanfox53]

Never ceases to amaze me how some ppl have the capability to repeatedly state the obvious.

[@DanPlusWater]

As a public safety rescue and recovery diver, along with my many years in shipwreck penetration diving, a couple things pop up. One, unless your underwater rov has got turbo boosters on it, the ones that are the size of basketballs can be stopped by a 2 year old grasp. A strong oak ship in the great lakes isnt going to burst. Second, I would never gamble with tether divers having to come up, then go into a chamber. A platform could easily be submersed for their deco time, and if propperly rigged, can be raised and lowered by crane making for less stress to the divers. I apologise for sounding like an arm-chair-quarter back, but thats just my opinion and suggestions for next time. Other than that I thought you did a very good job explaining the process, along with the detailed history of the vessels. Hope you have fun on your next dives.

[@felixcat9318]

Your expertise is invaluable because non professionals wouldn't have any idea about such details, so when you point things out you're adding to the conversation in a way that few can.

[@DrunkComments]

I appreciate your respectful feedback! Insightful to an outsider; wish more comments were as relevant without degrading the original posters' view. Edit...posted before finishing

[@kingfisherfleshy]

I dont really understand the need for a chamber on a 30m dive. I've hit thirty on multiple consecutive dives, within deco limits on a watch. They dont make it seem like the dive is even that long. Down, in, forward, back, out and up. Seems that this was unnecessarily complicated.

[@DanPlusWater]

@@kingfisherfleshy That's why I suggested that next time they use a raisable platform. All the divers can stay on the platform during their deco, they can have surface supply air mixture to quicken their time, and completely avoid needing a chamber. Like you stated 30 meters isn't all that deep, unless they are down there working as long as commercial divers are. Another reason I suggested surface supply. But I cannot arm chair quarter back, seeing as how I do not have all the facts and circumstances before me. I only stated suggestions to the original author on things that are norms in the commercial/professional world. To possibly help them out next time.

[@unisuit]

Answer- Government restrictions. Were not talking logic. good points. Keep Swimming

[@johnryan2193]

These ARCHAEOLOGISTS are all from the school of shivering jellybabies.

[@scottmaytham3429]

This video sheds lights on just how bad the zebra muscles have accumulated.

[@twstf8905]

Sixteen men survived from the two ships, but the sinkings took more than 80 men to their deaths. Ned Myers, a survivor of Scourge, told his story to James Fenimore Cooper; according to Myers, about eight men from Hamilton were saved and about 42 were lost.

[@Tchelaone]

Very, very interesting. Thank you !

[@AllCreativeGaming]

If Johnathan was so worried about the damage to the wreck then maybe he should have piloted the mini ROV.....oh wait, he can't because he is an underwater tomb raider. I love how he criticized Craig but has now concept of the difficulty that he faces and calls off the mission because he is a natural born panic artist. If the wreck decays and collapses and the bodies or evidence is lost forever, who gets the blame for not going forward. Without risk, there is never reward or progression.

[@briansearles4473]

I wished the Govt. was as worried about all the Zebra Mussels.

[@Op-wj8bw]

I know right he was like one little bump by a mini rov would bring the whole fucking ship down what a fanny he is

[@dwightschrute900]

Eating zebra mussels is a tradition in the schrute family

[@felixcat9318]

For these two warships to have sunk during the night must have added to the terror of their crews, particularly as they were in a bad storm! Their weaponry was no defence against the sea. As if being aboard warships of this era wasn't bad enough, they had the raging sea to contend with! That they're both in clean freshwater has magnificently preserved them, they're really quite remarkable and all the better for sitting upright! I enjoy following the adventures of this father and son dive team, they have genuine interest in these vessels.

[@samuelschick8813]

Back in the 1980's I was in the navy stationed on LST 1189. Well that ship was 522 feet long and 69 feet wide with a draft of 17 feet. From bow to stern the length of the ship and 4th deck down was the tank deck that ran the length of the ship. We could take on and store Mark 7A1 amtracs side by side (2) the entire length of the ship with 1 one each turn table. When we did not have amtracs we would stand on the aft turn table and watch the ship bend as it took a wave expecting it to break in half. On my second ship ( BB 63) we went from Sydney Australia to Hobart Tasmania. The waves during that trip put turret 1 under water more than once and came close to putting turret 2 under water more than once.

[@felixcat9318]

@@samuelschick8813 The bending and flexing would bother me, but the logical part of my brain would remind me that this is exactly what its intended to do in order not to fracture! The turrets going under water would definitely concern me, even if I knew what the Downflooding Angle was! I suspect that most Mariners become acclimatised to their vessels being operated in certain ways, even being mismanaged, with the view that this is how we've always done it.

[@robbyandrews6318]

Salutation. Just raise it. It is a perfect peace of history isn't not?.

[@joshuasill1141]

There is too much red tape to cut through. First, both wreck are listed as war graves. Nothing can be removed from the wrecks nor the wrecks be damaged in any way other than natural decay. Second, both ships are registered as US Navy war vessels so the United States and the US Navy would have to give approval for either ship to be raised, which probably isn't going to happen (see Point 1). Third, both wrecks are located in Canadian waters so the Canadian government would have to give permission for any type of salvage mission. Fourth, both ships have been under water for 200+ years and there's no telling of their structural integrity. They might not survive intact being raised to the surface. Fifth, how much money is it going to cost and who's going to pay for it?

[@sweaspurdoddd5466]

Imagine how amazing it would be If they could be raised like the Vasa

[@bothewolf3466]

Most of the show is about how they do a dive not the actual dive. The producers also add typical Hollywood "Drama" that does not need to be included at all like divers lines getting "tangled" with only 2 minutes to get them to decompression chambers...yet no one is moving with any urgency suggesting non-actors are attempting to act. Just make a documentary, don't add fluff. Interesting as far as the historical value of the ships in question, but a lot of added junk to get that information. 4/10.

[@caroltenge5147]

it rated a thumbs down from me.

[@jonnywilkin]

I find these style of documentary very painful to watch. Trying to add drama where there is none. However, a very obvious dynamic that wasn't exaggerated but I felt, was the ROV pilot with the goatee doing his best to contain his frustration with the archaeologist interrupting his concentration every 10 seconds... Personally I think I'd have told him to STFU and leave me to do my thing 🤬

[@caroltenge5147]

@@jonnywilkin most of the video was a waste of time.

[@Madhouse_Media]

Thanks, Ebert.

[@lsudx479]

@@Madhouse_Media 🤣

[@martinszpuk5665]

That the remains of sailors have survived is unbelievable. And it gives the place a real measure of human tragedy. It's like those photos of the Titanic passengers' shoes. Suddenly it's not just a ship on the bottom. It's a place where a lot of people died horrible deaths and hardships.

[@rileywilliams9799]

I remember seeing these ships in an issue of National Geographic years ago when I was a kid. Good to see them on video.

[@ZeteticPlato]

👍 .... More this ... Find the ships and Flight 19 .. that's enough to say thanks ... I'm glad you do this

[@jeffbrooks5100]

Extremely well done! What a successful mission! Keep up the great work! Jeff

[@sheriffjohn2498]

I saw a video in the 70’s by Dr Joseph McGinnis on these two schooners. Not sure if I spelled his name correctly. At that time there were no mussels and the masts and rigging were all intact. They looked like new. It was amazing! One of the schooners had it’s cannons all moved over to one side of the ship due to a hard roll because of the storm. That shift caused the ship to flood then sink. I am shocked to see the condition some 50+ years later. What a difference! Did those zebra mussels contribute the decay? There were no mussels to be seen back then.

[@christopherkuhns609]

I think the ships were overloaded with cannon and armament that were too large for these small ships. Top heavy. The combination of waterline and waves.

[@ct1762]

maybe, but the combo of open hatches and sales not furled is the real issue. warships were not generally overloaded as much as a heavy merchant ship (carrying rice, for example, packed to the gunnels).

[@garyheighway7635]

They were warships and they’re wondering is there any kind of ammunition inside could there be signs that had provisions on board. I’m sorry that just seems kind of stupid to even ask those kinds of questions. They were navy warships with sailors on board so most likely they were fully provisioned.

[@hughsmith7668]

It's a wreck.

[@zackadamec9332]

How cool was that musket rack with muskets still in it though

[@GregWalker-pe1rd]

All I learned from this movie is how to dive .

[@timmclaughlin232]

41:00 mans maneuvering the rov in tight quarters and someone pats his shoulder like that? Careless......

[@chrish5018]

Yeah. The archaeologist pats him on the shoulder then he slams the rov into the ship. The archaeologist starts yelling “ Look what you’ve done! You idiot!”

[@twstf8905]

Awesome 👍 Word ✌️

[@mustangmike4078]

The zebra muscles are an invasive species that have reeked havoc not only obscuring these wonderful shipwrecks but also clogging water intakes at treatment plants amongst other things. The obscuring of the wrecks is such a shame though 😕

[@ebonypegasus9864]

On the contrary, the wreck is invading the Zebra muscles territory, so understandable that they will attach to it as that's their home. We humans are stepping into their space... can't blame them for just doing what muscles do.

[@mikaelimanov6810]

@@ebonypegasus9864 But the Zebra mussels aren't native to those lakes.

[@mikaelimanov6810]

The mussels have one advantage though. They are filter feeders and the filter away all the silt blurring the lake, therefore making it easier to see the wreck in clear view.

[@ebonypegasus9864]

@@mikaelimanov6810 neither is the ship wreck.

[@mikaelimanov6810]

@@ebonypegasus9864 Well we can agree that they both ended up there by accident.

[@timothy2431]

I excell in American and military history getting straight A's all four years, and I honor these men every day. You guys just spend someone else's money and break your arms patting yourselves on the back

[@osirisandilio]

At 28:13 I couldn't take it anymore. It's not made of tissue paper. Too overdramatic about damaging anything, unwatchable

[@robertlorenzenjr9801]

Right. An American ship with American bodies in it, mr Canada can f all the way off lol. Hope they enjoy not being ruled by nazi Germany, Russia, China, etc right now..

[@oculusangelicus8978]

Imagine that you're aboard the Scourge, sleeping in your hammock when you suddenly are hit with a wave of fast moving cold water and washed out of your hammock, and towards the bowels of the ship. My theory is that most, if not all of the men were asleep until the water hit them and washed them from their hammock or bunks. By that time the ship was already on it's side with the water pouring in. With the power of the water rushing it, those men would have been washed with the water as it went towards the deepest parts of the ship. Which is why there wouldn't be any sailor's remains, they would have been washed deeper into the lower decks of the ship, where the ballast was sitting on the keel. My bet is that the remains of the sailors are mostly to be found there, in the deepest areas of the hull, likely and fittingly covered by the silt of over two hundred years. Their deaths would have been sparingly quick. I once nearly drowned to death as a 12 year old, I had been pushed off of my inner tube into the water of a very weedy lake and those weeds instantly wrap themselves around your legs by the turbulence of kicking. I had gone under water without taking an additional breath and the breath I has in me was getting stale already and because I could not reach the surface I took in water into my lungs. As a result my vision altered immediately to as if I was looking down a tube. I had lost all peripheral vision and everything was seemingly far away. I was already loosing consciousness and that wasn't even ten seconds in the water. The Human Body is hardwired to do certain things and because I had partially inhaled water and was fighting to prevent myself from breathing any more water it wouldn't be more than another breath, perhaps two and I would have lost consciousness. the same would have been for many of the crew aboard these two ships. not all would have gone down as quickly as I did and some may have succumbed even quicker but my ultimate point is this, it's far faster than people realize, AND it is perfectly painless. in every part of my incident at that lake, I had not felt ANY pain whatsoever. There was the urge to cough and take a fresh breath of air, for sure, but no pain. there would be only the desperate thought of getting air to breath. SO for those men who were rudely awakened by gushing water, there would have been so much confusion, and the inability to tell which way was up because the entire ship had tipped over on her side, plus the water rushing to the deepest parts of the ship, sweeping the crew with it, and we must take into consideration that being able to swim was neither a prerequisite of the US Navy, and nor was it common for men to know how to swim, their deaths would have been both painless and swift. May they rest in Peace, and I am so very thankful that the Canadian Government has listed all ship sinkings within Canadian waters, that loss of life occurred, are all listed as grave sites and cannot be disturbed except by Scientific/Anthropologist expedition approved by the Government. This takes away what so many have thought to be their right to not only disturb the remains of sailors but also damaging the wrecks by their very presence. As what was happening with the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. in fact the constant diving of the Edmund Fitzgerald is what brought about the laws that now protect all shipwrecks because there were and still are close family members from the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald who were offended deeply of footage of the still perfectly intact bodies of the crew members as well as relics of the ship being taken. The one thing about Lake Superior and that she never gives up her dead, and her depths are too cold for regular decomposition to take place so the bodies of the dead turns to wax and they stay permanently and will never deteriorate afterwards. that is why all shipwrecks that took human life are now grave sites and it is illegal to dive them now. I can only imagine what state the Scourge and the Hamilton would be in if the law gad not protected them, they sunk well over two hundred years ago

[@mrdogshit]

patting his shoulder was a super dumb thing to do

[@madmanmechanic8847]

Wow that is fascinating ! I don't understand why they are worried about damaging it . The muscles and age will flatten it and nothing will be left they should be able to bring up artifacts from the wreck put them in a museum . The rifles would be cool to bring up

[@Arda-wq8pd]

my exact tohughts

[@brucesteele3052]

The wreck itself is an artifact. Add to that, it is a gravesite where various laws and regulations are in play concerning artifact recovery.

[@madmanmechanic8847]

@@brucesteele3052 Yeah I know let it rot into the ground so nobody can see it and remember the crew and what they went through.

[@brucesteele3052]

@@madmanmechanic8847 That is a fact, and the way it is.

[@gazpf]

@@brucesteele3052 I often wonder where the line is drawn on this as it is perfectly acceptable to go and grave rob the Egyptians, The huns, TH eChinese ancients, Pre columbian Americans, etc., etc., It can't be if there're living relatives still around as ships like these went down a long long time ago. Myself i can not figure out where they draw the line of grave robbing and for antiquity? I suppose a big part of it is whose money is behind the venture.

[@dougnoe7094]

Hello people the boat is already broken …. That’s why it’s at the bottom of the lake!!!

[@AvalonDreamz]

I found it hard to imagine how so many were stuck below and couldn't get out until I seen just how small that opening was, how limited your options for escape were. How horrifying.

[@user-lm1zt7zy2k]

Спасибо за качественый контент}

[@christopherkuhns609]

The wrecks sank on the Ontario side of the border. Thats why Americans never did any marine archaeology before.

[@georget9066]

total over kill

[@wallykimball8829]

Ned Myers wrote a story called before the mast free gives an account of the crew man who says he jumped off the boat as it sank and he could see the captain trying to fit through the little windows then he hit the water when he came up the ship was gone I wonder if those were the windows that the captain was trying to squeeze through

[@bobcohoon9615]

Lake Ontario has dangerous storms and many ships have gone down in them

[@stknife1]

Very amazing video thanks so much, only question. How is the water still liquid at 4 degrees Celsius

[@jellyfishattack]

Fresh water doesn't freeze unless it's 0C or less if moving, e.g. a great lake. It isn't relevant here but salt water stays liquid at temperatures less than freezing. Of course, only a few feet of the lake would ever freeze. You just drill a hole in it and you can dive under the ice.

[@iainleverton5510]

hi , any British ships from the same time found at the bottom of the lake ????

[@martinhumble]

Well, the most spectacular and best preserved wooden shipwreck are the Swedish Wasa. Then we have Lord Nelsons own Victory - also several older wrecks around Scandinavia for example. Great find none the less. But entering a shipwreck isn't something new - though from an archaeological standpoint, disturbing a wreck might very possible cause harm to it.

[@ixlr8677]

what diff does that make. wind up dust any way.

[@Steger13]

Cant wait the day they will make Subdrone for people to buy. Imagine going down there visit those boats even the titanic. Need to be small like a Drone. But for this boats they should try to bring it all up in one piece.

[@Lisa1111]

You have to love old school ⚓️🤿

[@40beretta1]

If you're not a Great Laker....these storms are NOT uncommon. Each Great Lake weather can change in a matter of minutes. There are 6000 document shipwrecks on the Great Lakes

[@joshmorris5356]

The archaeologists get a little carried away in my opinion. They are so worried about damaging the ship, to the point they won’t let them explore the vessel meanwhile it’s constantly being damaged and rotting away by the sea life anyway.

[@marcbach5880]

I thought the Cousteau team did some work on these in the early 90's. Help me out.

[@mrliberty8468]

It's like half the show is will it fit in the window..then...Nope...

[@deniserowley8549]

Being from uk how were the boats placed on the lakes.

[@shanejoseph1700]

I've been looking for the Edmund Fitzgerald episode can't find it on KZbin anymore

[@billt6116]

Dude's worried about damaging the wreck with an ROV tether. I don't think they documented exactly where and how each mussel was attached. If a few zebra muscles bite it, So much the better!

[@janhaugen6034]

hate how no one have tryed to save the ships :(

[@kbar9273]

113 km = 70 miles, 4 C = 39 F

[@mrdogshit]

Oh Canada and its dam rules

[@robertcarlton1905]

An amazing find. I had them in the 80's National Geographic. They were pristine wrecks in that time. Now, those ships are mussel farms. A bit disappointed with this documentary. Possibly the last opportunity to get into these ships, mostly wasted. Remember when archeologists actually dared to do things? When did wobble-kneed tremblers take over?

[@brycepagey888]

What really got me is how fake it got about halfway through

[@grahamlane1313]

If they only going to.30 meters couldn t they after they ve explored the schooner just do a few decompresstion stops on the way back to the surface

[@steven2212]

Great vid when you show it, amazing filming inside the wreck. Way to much filler and other editing that are just not needed. Want the wreck, not interviews and control room shots.

[@cynthiagonzales9131]

To many backseat drivers.

[@110665]

Why the hell dont they raise and preserve these things! If England can raise the Mary Rose these can certainly be raised too

[@joshuasill1141]

There is too much red tape to cut through. First, both wrecks are listed as war graves. Nothing can be removed from the wrecks nor the wrecks be damaged in any way other than natural decay. Second, both ships are registered as US Navy war vessels so the United States and the US Navy would have to give approval for either ship to be raised, which probably isn't going to happen (see Point 1). Third, both wrecks are located in Canadian waters so the Canadian government would have to give permission for any type of salvage mission. Fourth, both ships have been under water for 200+ years and there's no telling of their structural integrity. They might not survive intact being raised to the surface. Fifth, how much money is it going to cost and who's going to pay for it?

[@abizard5899]

dlm seni apa pun jadi...kebiasa an orang kaya gitu lho....

[@rustyshackleford6693]

Skip to 35:00

[@seanwebb605]

480p?

[@DaGhostToastRoast]

Can someone explain to me why this ship which is much older seems even more preserved than the Titanic which seems to be completely deteriorating and rooms barely recognizable?

[@carllafrance5510]

Cold fresh water

[@seanc6754]

Omfg that archaeologist who kept back seat driving the rov driver was sooo annoying.. like that litte rov was going to make the entire ship collapse..

[@MrJerryKramer]

This research would help explain what happened to the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Great video

[@skyb2149]

They died.....

[@tomdooley3522]

The Daniel J Morrell only one man lived, I am amazed that eight men lived, the lakes are deadly . The old womans skirts blow in the wind for nothing.

[@dhamrick100]

Those vessels need to be raised and preserved and retrieve any human remains found and give them a proper military burial, if these ships were on display it would be a much better trtibute to the crew versus a wreck on the bottom thats gets seen only by a few choice professionals..

[@SacredWaves]

This archeology guy is way over cautious. No need to be careless but, if you really want to know something... Sometimes that includes risks. If you don't want it to collapse ... Leave it alone.

[@RobertJamesChinneryH]

How is this diving?😅😅

[@darrenmorgan870]

The one thing I can't stand about these types of documentarys is all the bullsh%t they add to make it a longer episode which I can't stand because I like most people wanted to see and hear about the ships it was meant to be about, sorry if I seem to harsh but there's no need to fill dead air as they say, they could fill it with scenes about the ship wrecks.l

[@jeanniebnorissel9440]

So

[@mrrominemr]

Cause of the Shipwreck! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJfPi3qAipWcndk

[@leod.rodriguez3399]

😵😱💔😥😢😭

[@KellyBurnett138]

Oh the war of 1812…where is USA beat the British …AGAIN!

[@robertfmccarthy2360]

To much BS & drama What fake crap there's no need for decompression chambers. Only seeing these wreck {historical} is why anyone may want to watch this.

[@Pinaman69]

Typical,... Oh Can- A- the spinless.... Johnathan a perfect example,...A ?

[@vampire1111pitbull]

OK. First. Let's address the pink elephant in the room. THIS IS A TREASURE HUNT. AS IF WE ARE ALL STUPID! They don't care how the crew died. Bet that. Second. We gives a crap if the window is scratched. Who cares if the whole thing caves in? If not now. Never. That guy making the call acts more like an insurance adjuster. This entire deal is fubar. Dishonest people all scared they won't get their treasures. Or one will and one wont.

[@johnoneill9539]

As usual with these videos to fill the space they tell about the dive not limited facts ,, such a shame..salvaging those ships and preserving for historical record ,would be viable 🤷🏼‍♂️…

[@karlos543]

Lots of unnecessary drama here

[@user-gl7qp9ix5s]

Yeah...typical American!!

[@tomdooley3522]

What in the hell is the idea of Useing metrics like as if everybody understood those things.

[@jellyfishattack]

It's not an American show.

[@stevemiller3082]

Too much “fluff”

[@ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717]

Corruption

[@georgebrown3185]

So much non existing Drama and background music takes away from the science. Sad

[@ssherrierable]

They know this ships down there, they know it still has human remains down there so it’s a war grave that’s already marked so why are they even going down there to look at it? I’d feel disrespected if people were going to my loved ones grave and looking at his bones let alone filming it. This is just wrong you don’t disturb peoples grave sites. Z

[@TrappedinSLC]

Depends why people are investigating. I'd like people to know what happened, personally. Was someone responsible for me being in an unsafe situation that lead to my death? Etc.

[@shiekahfan01]

anyone else notice at 46:00 they used a different clip vs what the kid is actually saying? poor splitting and bad editting

[@nikmason6873]

The irony of Nelson figure head.

[@lukeclay4286]

Why do American documentaries have to have bullshit suspense plots in them?

[@Purpmaster]

Do yourself a favor and don’t waste your time watching this. They don’t even go into the first wreck and the second is shown for all of a minute or two. The rest of the program, just filler…

[@jesterr7133]

I hate that these are designated as war graves. Given their state of preservation and recoverable remains, it would be much more beneficial to recover and preserve the ships while giving these sailors a proper burial. With technology today, it may even be possible to identify them and return them to their families. As few ships from that era still exist, there is so much we can learn from them. I hate to see them continue to rot away.

[@mydogworriesalot1840]

Stupid Zebra mussels they dont belong in the Great Lakes.

[@charliechan226]

Lol 30m? I have dove on a dozen or so Japanese WW2 wrecks in The Philippines at that depth and slightly deeper using only conventional scuba equipment and natural compressed air(29%O2 69.5%Nitrogen and .5%CO2.we had hang tanks in place in case we ran out of air before we were able to complete all the nessassary decompression stops on our own supply. Being and advaced level diver and having logged several 100 dives many being on wrecks I was by far the least experianced diver on the expedition which consisted of myself, 2 rescue divers and 2 dive masters. I still had over 30% when we surfaced. One of the Philippino dive masters still had over 50% after 45min of bottom time at 30m but their dive technique,buoyancy control and trim are nearly flawless. I hardly seen either of the DMs breath down their.With nitrox (a mixture of oxygen and helium) we could go much deeper without worrying about nitrogen intoxication or decompression sickness at all. I dunno why Canadian law requires all the tech diving configuration to do what could and within any reasonably skilled wreck diver's limits most certainly would be considered to be a routine dive? Mind you? In The Philippines worker safety policies or regulations are next to non- existant. I also dove inside of a sunken oil tanker's oil vessel still 1/2 full of fuel oil so you have to swim underneath the oil which as cool as it looked almost certainly would be unthinkable as a recreational dive in North America so I guess I just answered my own question prolly?lol

[@MoosefromCanada]

90 metres...and its cold 🥶

[@meister1210]

You say nitrox is a mixture of helium and oxygen. This is most certainly not true. Nitrox is oxygen enriched air, and doesn't allow the diver to descend deeper. Oxygen and helium is often referred to as heliox, not to be confused with trimix which is a mix of oxygen, helium and nitrogen.

[@yourdaddy6030]

Me me me I I I stfu

[@davidlacey146]

Another overproduced foolishness complete with pseudo-problems and crap. It could have been a good fifteen-minute informative video. Instead a majority of wasted time.

[@456swagger]

Boring.

[@gyronnax]

why are you here? if this was boring

[@456swagger]

@@gyronnax I'm not here. I left long ago.

[@rickyboy1947]

the Canadian Government Parks Canada guy is standing in the way all the time....they should have left him on shore.....typical government interference that results in nothing being done