Public Safety Diver Vs Rescue Diver: What's the difference?

[@michaelstidham2891]

Finally James is back to KZbin! Love your knowledge and look forward to more of them!

[@robertb2744]

Miami Dade Fire Rescue alone has over 500 certified SCUBA Rescue Divers and maintains 275 sets of gear-pretty wild for just one organization!

[@CinematographerRDee]

Advanced 25 dives complete! Travelling to red sea for 20 more Thank you 🙏🏼 Im following ur videos

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

I did the PADI Rescue Diver course a few years ago. Very interesting. Learned a lit about me and how to, and how not to, help people.

[@jeffbrown6197]

Great information. I've been on a PSD team for 13+ years and am one of the team instructors. Other than being underwater, recreational and PSD diving are worlds apart.

[@itravelwisely]

Awesome video! It's great to learn the difference between Public Safety Divers and Rescue Divers.

[@DiversReady]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TheOrdinaryScubaDiver]

I save lives for a living (or as I prefer - delaying a death) and I'm also a course director for Advanced Life Support courses (i.e. I teach doctors, nurses and paramedics how to resusitate people effectively) and I've been doing my job for the best part of 40 years (1 year before my C-card was issued), and I often watch participants on 'rescue diver' practical courses and I am stunned at how much lack of evidence goes into these courses. There are two things we (healthcare professionals) know save lives; high quality CPR and early defibrillation. In water rescue breaths, and all the other bs is just that. The PADI / SSI / SDI et al all need to seriously update their training and teach their students to get people OUT of the water and jump on the chest - rescue breaths do nothing if blood is no longer going round and round. Oh and if you're not practicing your CPR every 3 months, then you're no longer competent - muscle memory folks.

[@geemac44]

Totally agree! “Just keep jumping to get the heart pumping.” Or, “No use waiting to dock to give the heart a shock.” Defibrillators should be mandatory equipment on ALL recreational dive boats.

[@Jerby_Diving]

I’ve worked as a paramedic in a busy 911 system for 8 years and recently got into critical care. I’d like to add my 2 cents since most people reading your comment will not interpret it like I do. @theordinaryscubadiver-qy4wr IS NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT GIVE RESCUE BREATHS ON THE SURFACE!!!! Please do not read his comment and think that. The way he worded it is misleading and irresponsable. As someone who claims to “save lives for a living”, you should know that the general population is not looking for double blinded randomized control trials to back up the teachings of a regular rescue diver course. I’m sure you are well aware that there is no evidence based practice for anything on the surface of the ocean. Unless you can find a waterproof Lucas device, giving rescue breaths while waiting for the boat is much better than doing nothing. Us “saving lives for a living” (smh) people do plenty of things that aren’t evidence based. Ever given amiodarone to a cardiac arrest with a shockable rhythm? Ever given nitroglycerin to a STEMI? Ever done CPR on a traumatic arrest? NONE OF THOSE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT SHOW IMPROVED PATIENT OUTCOMES! Please don’t insinuate people who aren’t medical providers shouldn’t do what the course teaches because it isn’t “evidence based”. If anyone reading this is ever diving on the same boat as me and I drown. If you are able to get me to the surface, PLEASE give me rescue breaths.

[@Jerby_Diving]

I have been working as a paramedic in a busy 911 system for 8 years and recently got into critical care. I’d like to add my two cents. But first off, I’d like to make something very clear to anyone reading your comment. HE IS NOT SUGGESTING YOU SHOULD NOT GIVE RESCUE BREATHS ON THE SURFACE. People who are taking the rescue diver course are not looking for double blinded randomized control trials to back up what is taught in the course. I’m sure you as someone who “saves lives for a living” are well aware that there is no evidence based practice for anything on the surface of the ocean. If you have any studies to cite I would LOVE to read them. Unless you can find a waterproof Lucas device, giving rescue breaths while waiting for the boat is much better than doing nothing. We do plenty of things in emergency medicine that have no evidence to prove it works. Have you ever given amiodarone on a cardiac arrest with a shock of rhythm? Have you ever given nitroglycerin to a STEMI? Have you ever done CPR on a traumatic arrest? NONE OF THESE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT SHOW IT IMPROVES PATIENT OUTCOMES!This channel has 83,000 followers. Insinuating people should not give rescue breaths on the surface is irresponsible and reckless. If anyone reading this is ever diving on the same boat as me, and I drown, PLEASE give me rescue breaths on the surface while you are waiting for the boat if you are able to.

[@TheOrdinaryScubaDiver]

@@Jerby_Diving Sometimes it is best not to argue with a fool - In 1998 the Nobel Prize for Medicine or Physiology was awared to Furchgott, Ignarro & Murad for their research into the effects of Nitric Oxide as a signal molecule in the Cardiovascular System. I work in as a nurse practitoner and ALS Instructor in a Quaternary Cardio-Thoracic Hospital Emergency Department, so I do keep abreast of current research into cardiac arrest causes and treatement. So I think my 40 years of nursing experience (most of which has been in ICU / ED) can provide some insights into what works and what doesn't.

[@calequeen9125]

In the late 80s I was a volunteer with a small rule rescue squad, and that was the level of training. They took us to the equivalent to rescue diver because we didn’t have public safety diver trained instructors in the area. I look back at those days and I consider myself very lucky I didn’t end up injured as a result of the bad practices we had.

[@ChrisAllen8394]

Awesome video James. Coincidentally in my case, taking the Rescue Diver course last summer lead me to volunteer with my local Dive and Rescue team. During the course I realized in the rare chance I ever need to use these skills, it's going to be to recover not rescue. 6 minutes, that's all the time we've got when something goes wrong. We operate under the umbrella of the Sheriffs Dept. but are comprised fully of volunteers (Although some are also fulltime FD, EMT, and one ER nurse). Being a small county in SE MN right along the Mississippi, there aren't enough calls to warrant a full time team. We are actually doing a training with an ERDI (yep never heard of ERDI before joining the team) shop in a couple weeks for a couple of us new guys to get dry suit and full face mask certified. Always nice when the county is paying for me to get some new certifications. Not looking forward to the day I need to use these skills but, I'm happy to be part of a team that will bring someone home.

[@henrikm.6159]

I finished my PSD certificate here in Germany yesterday. Before, I did recreational diving for 20 years. You are absolutely right its completely different. Here its is easier to get in touch with it, since Voluntary Rescue organizations like the Red Cross or the Lifeguards maintain dive teams which you can simply join and start the education. Swiftwater rescue is done also by these organizations but mostly done by different personnel. But there are people who do both certifications.

[@geraldbunn9683]

James ,Thank you Sir and wishing you continued success , I recently completed PSD and APSD for my department….

[@jaketschida7016]

Thank you. It is hard to explain to people the difference. I've been a PSD for over 23 years now and I get so many people who did their PADI Rescue Diver cert who think they are PSD. For those who are watching this and are thinking about trying to become a PSD, reach out to your local sheriff's department and ask if they a recovery dive team and do they take volunteers. The sheriff's departments that do have a team, they usually have both full-time and volunteers divers. Unfortunately with fire rescue dive teams you have to be a member of the fire department.

[@Cactus1857]

💯💯 spot on. Thank you James for reviewing this. Most important part James covered = you aren’t going from recreational ratings to PSD without being career first responder in 99% of the cases. Being paid to be a tow truck SCUBA rigger called by local jurisdictions doesn’t necessarily make you a PSD either 😎

[@TampaBayDiving]

One exception is the Texas State Guard. They have a FEMA recognized PSD team and pull from their enlisted and officer ranks to join their team. You do have to have a minimum rescue diver cert and then work your way up from the ranks (Tender to Diver).

[@Terrol-d3k]

PSD fot 33 years with my FD. Was Instructor for surf, Ice, Swiftwater and Dive per NFPA 1670.

[@brennanriggs9293]

Spot on, mate! But, we dont like to mention the scuba bat signal. 🦇 It's a secret

[@kevindavison6019]

I am planning to take a Rescue Diver course soon I look at it as a "responsible Buddy" course. I want to have the skills to help if I encounter anyone in distress. PSD courses would be good to take but it is tough to gain acceptance from the Police Fire EMS community that a "Civilian" could be a good resource to have available.

[@KevinReynolds21]

The only thing I would add is that rescue diver is one of the best courses that can be taken by a recreational diver

[@petethehandyman9185]

Very good video! Great explanation about what a PSD does 😂

[@jamesaurich501]

Great job.

[@achilles6312]

Public safety diving and regular diving aren’t in the same class, PSD is a dope on the end of a rope doing patterns, you’re diving in shit water, in shit trim, with shit sac, doing work. It is however very rewarding to bring a loved one back to their family, couldn’t care less about finding cars and evidence, but that’s apart of it too.

[@JasonPrather-MSTI]

Some of us don’t tether, but pretty much right on. 6” viz is an amazingly clear pond.

[@jamesbevan9989]

Almost spot on but don't always doing patterns tethered, some of us have really good technology that stops that.

[@achilles6312]

@@jamesbevan9989 in general it’s accurate, while some agencies have live scope side scan, Aqua eye, and diver mounted display sonar, it’s few and far between with how new the technology is, it also is dependent on what you’re searching for

[@jamesbevan9989]

@@achilles6312 yeah my PSD team has all the cool stuff. DIDSON, SS Sonar, heavy lift ROV and Kongsberg sector scan. But I remember the days of jackstay line searching.

[@Hoosiermudskipper]

Feels like a PSD diver can be a rescue diver but a rescue diver isn't a Public Safety Diver till later in their training?

[@matteoposi9583]

Can you gwt psd for the skills without actually being on a rescue team?

[@KB-gd6fc]

Yeah. Go to the ERDI website and find an instructor

[@arthur1670]

Sports diver a better name

[@jeffgreen6491]

Who or where can you get the PSD course .

[@timg9134]

Erdi, Naui, PADI, Dive Rescue International and maybe some others.

[@johnscholven9034]

Having Rescue does not entail you to recover vehicles or victims... PSD is not for the recreational diver. It's a job and a shitty job. It's cold, blind (water resembles black or chocolate milk) and hopefully God is nice and doesn't give you debris, entanglement hazards, current or hazardous marine life. To give you an idea. I can't past mid forearm and I'm feeling around for a victim. It's not fun, ever.

[@JasonPrather-MSTI]

I enjoy it more than looking at reefs. Working by feel to rig a class A wrecker to a submerged vehicle, training days chasing gator trails (where the water goes from dark to absolute black along a path), its surfacing an seeing snakes that I’m not fond of.

[@johnscholven9034]

@JasonPrather-MSTI Definately a difference. Reefs are nice, having grown up in Ft. Lauderdale for 15 years but my favorite is large/deep wreck dives. I don't have to deal with Gators up here in Appalachia but man 44° water in Feb when you forgot your hood sucks.

[@CinematographerRDee]

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[@DiscoveringRoni]

SCUBA bat signal ...😂😂😂