Divine Law: A Tale of Two Concepts (and Three Responses)

[@JohnSmith-fp8il]

Christine Hayes has such a sharp and agile mind and she is brilliant communicator. As a Christian I like to hear the academic perspective on the Bible, especially when presented in such a thoughtful and unbiased way. I find things in what she says that affirm my beliefs and other things that make me re-examine them. It's all very interesting and at times challenging. Listening to people like Professor Hayes has released me from the dogmatism of Biblical literalism and given me new and meaningful perspectives on my faith.

[@fadachipauline973]

I am impressed by Professor Hayes style, approach and posture. she is more composed and disposed to pass on knowledge as though she is exactly what she is teaching.

[@mariopantoja8259]

She is wonderful

[@ProfessorKinkead]

I envy Professor Hayes's ability to maintain a laser-like focus on her lecture's aim. I am a bit of a rambler...I let myself fall down rabbit holes during my lectures/talks. Aside from that envy, Professor Hayes is brilliant! Thank you for sharing her brilliance with those of us unable to attend her lectures in person.

[@dragonlee1bfed]

April. Thank you for being so concise and focused. 😎

[@OfficialHeavenonEarth]

Don't envy she's smart but her message is too laser... Too robot..a great teacher is sympathic to the mind of the audience.. and it's ability to digest info.. ;D

[@therealtulip]

I love Professor Hayes’ lectures!

[@bconni2]

i have no idea what she's talking about. but i like listening to her.

[@obadiah60623]

The parallel development of Rabbinic literature and Paul’s letters deserve our attention

[@LearnEnglishESL]

I'd like to study under such brilliant scholars as Dr. Hayes, if I didn't have so much scripture of world religions still to be read! "The Prophets of God have founded the laws of divine civilization. They have been the root and fundamental source of all knowledge." - Abdu’l-Baha, The Promulgation of Universal Peace

[@bogo33]

I wish there was a way to get the handout she is constantly referring to. Would be great if someone could post it

[@markhanna1372]

I'm sold, I want to read this book.

[@stevenlaupert3089]

Currently I am viewing begging to end the Yale courses on KZbin and it wasn’t until while viewing these videos it dawned on me that this lady is the same lady as Christine Hayes! Whoever is responsible for these free courses thank you and you should know this is a good honorable action well received. I wonder if Christine knows the mystics and if so would she agree they predate any religion or philosophy? It is possible likely and anticipated I will have tens of thousands of hours in studying courses and lectures. Christine to me is a treasure box or a candy store fascinating mind candy-worth the explore!

[@davidbarber3821]

We watched her lectures & bought her book

[@ian_b]

I'm just watching the course series featuring Professor Hayes about the Old Testament and bumped into this video, and I can't help but notice a significant hotness upgrade. Sorry, I was born sexist, it's in my genes and all that.

[@somniumisdreaming]

+jaxxstraw Not sexist, I'm female and double checked it was the same woman. A very intelligent, erudite lady whatever her style.

[@ian_b]

somniumisdreaming She is. Brainy is very appealing :)

[@donnab.333]

jaxxstraw LOLLLLL!!!!!!!!

[@NeptunesLagoon]

some people feel a learned and intelligent woman is sexxy- and this would definately apply to Christine- even before... she became much more a visible part of the study, and gave her young teacher look and upgrade- and lost the glasses- contacts suck... I wonder if she had laser surgery? BUT if she looked like a Troll- she would still he one of the most learned religious schollars in our modern time (male OR female)

[@rippy4freedom499]

jaxxstraw me too.. and agreed she appears as beautiful as her mind ;) and younger over time lol. Hotness 👍

[@sadib100]

1:13:26 What was she trying to say?

[@ianrmacdougall3875]

The impropriety of human thought is it's imperfections, pabulum is a human swing that hangs in the garden fastened to the tree of Knowledge, the harder Adam pushes Eve the more likely the law of physics will intervene and the exhilaration of Eve may well prove divine. A feeling unsurpassed as a thrill, was the world's first orgasm an act of such immeasurable pleasure that it confused male identity as a "type of accident about to happen", was Adam made impotent prior to Eve's pleasure. Like the swing there are incredible forces at work divine intervention was exclusion from the garden, if ever there was a need for a mediation counsellor by all parties, or a good Rabbi this was it. I believe the Professor could have assisted this matter greatly. She is wonderful.

[@mikemike6808]

Divine law is not but a interpretation of karma, described the best they could at the time. Of course words cannot fully encapsulate it like us to some degree it is a evolving principle of understanding love. The beauty of the experiment is that source see's the growth in the unexpected, but loves it's creation as any artist would.

[@dayan47]

I am only 7 min. in and she has classically and predictably begun the Greco-Roman Christian basis of law leaving off Islam which was briefly referred to at the start.

[@chengmohdamin172]

The story of Nathan with David is found in the Quran where the admonishers were two angels and that would certainly have been more impactful. So who do we believe. Could the Nathan story be an early fiction?

[@dayan47]

At 28 min. mentioning Abraham, Isaac and Jacob's following natural unwritten law is clearly found in surat Al Baqarah Chaper 2 in Quran verses 132, 133

[@kimfreeborn]

Themis was the goddess of divine law--the primal, unwritten laws governing human conduct which were first established by the gods of heaven. She was believe to have issued these edicts to mankind through the great oracle of Delphoi (Delphi) over which she presided alongside the god Apollon.

[@Larrypint]

She talks with a split tongue, depending on the audience.

[@polemizator723]

25:00 49:36 1:03:06

[@dayan47]

At 20 min daughters inherit not only sons..proof positive of Islamic tawheed brought by Moses.

[@TheRealValus]

Fascinating and enjoyable, thank you. Concerning the "irrational" performances, don't the Rabbis ultimately provide rational justifications? As you say, the absurdity of the directive links to the faithfulness of the obedient, who perform it for no other reason than because it comes from God. It may even be a signal to those outside the fold, as if God were to say, "Check out my people. They obey without reason. They are dependent on my will and not on reason," kind of like how He boasts about his servant Job. Also, this difficulty protects against indiscriminate conversions, like a membrane that one can only pass through by acknowledging the divine origin, rather than a natural logic, and by going the extra mile, as it were, solely for God. And would it not also be a way of further ensuring the preservation of the nation of Israel, by setting it apart, with it's own, unique culture. Here are cultural markers which are not likely to be arrived at by other peoples. Moreover, as cultures deteriorate, the seemingly superfluous, arbitrary markers would be the first to go, but only the beginning of a total downfall. Every inch we give up seems inauspicious, until we realize we have been taken for a mile, and that is why the inch is so auspicious. Keeping these laws is like keeping a seal on a bottle, -- I mean, like a sticker, not a more mechanical, air-tight seal, -- which protects, not by sealing the contents off from the atmosphere, in a natural way, but, by indicating that the bottle has not been compromised even in a cosmetic way. It is a sign of the people's respect, not to alter "one jot or tittle". Most of all, it preserves the place of God as a personal God, whereas, if everything were based solely on reason, it would be easier to fall away from God, little by little, and replace Him with an impersonal idea.

[@StorytimeJesus]

Doesn't "written on the heart" begin in Jeremiah?? a New Covenant brought by Jesus son of Jeshozadak.

[@timothymulholland7905]

God was the foil the rabbis used to change their law to fit their whims and necessity for maintaining power over the people.

[@shepherdbook]

is your name IRL Jon Snow?

[@therealtulip]

What was that question with the Quran all about??

[@Mr37jrc]

does she believe that genesis is not literal?

[@rakandres]

Mr37jrc I doubt any rational person believes in Genesis literally :)

[@truethinker221]

Marcello Di Santo I think that was an attempt at irony .

[@DWORLD-xl4pb]

Divine 😍🖤✅🤓

[@226klh]

This king has theories, that king has theories, but which one is supremely accommodating the best kind of human, that is a question! Maybe God shall always review the historical archives

[@dayan47]

By 19 min.she cannot even add that when Moses wrote the law he received it from ALLAH, preferring to use Yahweh as the reference. Does she know that Moses as Prophet and messenger is mentioned in Quran 25 times more than any other Prophet including Muhammad.

[@ohuntermc9321]

There was no allah when that story was written. That is a much later reinterpretation.

[@sadib100]

Yahweh is just Allah's name.

[@n.bmishra2756]

Bhekar ka video

[@seanmarshall7529]

Denigration of Mosaic law??? Really???.. Paul is not easy to get a straight forward answer from, specially about law. But tone and tone again, he says the contrary, the one does not replace.. It extends, which personally creates problems for me .

[@stevenmiller4329]

I’m more mature than the thought I had of Harvard school of witch craft and wizardry

[@ydj8081]

Poor example with oil for meal offerings

[@MichelleG.-et8yk]

She talks too fast.

[@surpriseimblack]

She's kind of hot, actually..

[@pbaklamov]

*obviously

[@dannysbookauthority7280]

Paul upheld theTorah as Did Yeshua so stop right there. You have got it wrong because you don't want it but you want your own way. Greco roman nonsense law allowed sex with what ever and rape and abortion Torah does not. Yeshua is the word made flesh to express the meaning of the law torah. One wife. Cant even look at a woman with lust and you are already committing adultery with her and so on. I saw an early lecture which you failed to connect Messiah Yeshua with Jonah. You don't know the Bible at all. So what's your agenda here ?

[@infocus]

"Paul upheld theTorah..." Well, yeah. He was a Pharisee. "...as Did Yeshua..." According to the writers of the Gospels, at least. But to what extent? "...so stop right there." Ooooo, puttin' the big foot down, eh? "You have got it wrong..." The best way to comment on this is to follow it with the rest of the quote: "... because you don't want it but you want your own way. " Not only are you blindly assigning motive, but you're doing it because you want your own way. Thanks for the irony. "Greco roman nonsense law allowed sex with what ever and rape and abortion Torah does not." Care to cite that? "Yeshua is the word made flesh to express the meaning of the law torah." This is a theological argument, not a historical argument. "One wife." I'm gonna need a verb here. "Cant even look at a woman with lust and you are already committing adultery with her and so on." This is the "meaining of the Torah"? And again, you're not quoting Yeshua, you're quoting a gospel writer. "I saw an early lecture which you failed to connect Messiah Yeshua with Jonah." No, you saw a lecture earlier where she DIDN'T connect them. It's not a failure....unless you insist on your own way of seeing it. "You don't know the Bible at all." Ah, there it is, the requisite inane quote. Thank you. Worth the wait. "So what's your agenda here?" Didn't you already answer that? She wants her own way, right? And if it isn't yours, it's wrong. Right? So, what's YOUR agenda? I mean, other than trolling.

[@NeptunesLagoon]

not sure what you mean here- Professor Hayes is modernly seen as one of the most articiculate and learned scholars on the Bible, and her teachings at Yale early in her career are enlightening, take a look at Yale exodus- youtube it and you will find her in a black dress- and undressing the religion of the ancient Hebrews... enjoy - and if you dont agree- its because you havent delved as deep as she and other researchers have as you blindly stare and believe... she even relates CHRONUS to this diety (Saturn- the star of thier god Rempyhan/ star of David- the jewish HEXagram- a occult symbol... and the ancient Phoenecian word for the wandering star (and a god) known as Saturn was : Israel (so the god of Jacob was Saturn/ Chronus- the god that ate his own children- if you remember Greek lit.) look at a few of my revealing vids on my channel on the sunject- and other relevent material on ancient cultures and thier beliefs...

[@Shirohige33]

Neptunes Lagoon Actually many scholars from Kenneth Kitchen,to Dallas Petrovich do think that Exodus did happen and they offer a plethora of evidence.

[@ohuntermc9321]

@@Shirohige33 that is a small handful of scholars who believe the exodus happened in the manner explained in the bible.

[@HomeSecurityandSolor]

She lie to much