Divisions of the USPSA-Tactical Tuesday

[@JohnTheRecoilJunkie]

Thank you. I am indeed tired of mag dumping into trash.

[@TacticalToolBelt]

Can vouch, I got tired of mag dumping steel, told myself if I didn’t make the leap I never would, joined uspsa, shot my first match 2 weeks later. 2 matches under my belt now, & I’ll never be looking back. Best decision I have made & I can verify you will improve faster than training on your own. 🏴🏆

[@modernwarriorsut]

thats awesome! glad to hear that its helping improve your skills.

[@julianmercier]

I wondered why there were 35,000 members out of 110 million gun owners. So I went to a match as an observer. I taped cardboard, stood the fallen metal targets back up, etc. No one shooting production. All pistol caliber carbines, carry optics, and race guns. It was not the friendly environment that many people speak of. For those that enjoy it, carry on.

[@Pyrat_King13]

TBH, I only watched for the code word for the extra entries (BTW I totally missed it the first time and barely caught it the second time 😆🤣). That being said, it has peaked my interest on something I've never considered doing before. Great video with a lot of great info. I'm definitely glad I watched it. Thanks guys, keep it up!

[@shootinbruin3614]

Another thing to note about PCC division: it's a fantastic way to increase your proficiency with the 5.56 AR. A lot of the skills learned competing at PCC translate directly to the more powerful rifle: manipulations, reloads, malfunction clearing, developing a natural index and consistent stock placement, sight tracking, shot calling, movement, all these can be honed in matches. Even recoil control is similar as a blowback 9mm AR actually has the potential to kick more than a well-gassed 5.56. Granted, there are rifle-specific skills like wind calling or distance estimation that won't be learned in USPSA, but overall, shooting PCC in matches will make you a better rifleman overall. Not to mention most folks you'll meet are great and it's just fun as hell

[@modernwarriorsut]

Excellent point!

[@gaigerraiger]

Thanks for the video! So pumped for the giveaway and hoping for the best to get further into USPSA. Just did my first one in August for carry optics and have another one in September!

[@designated_hitter_EGA]

@02:58 Most production line ammunition in NOT considered Major PF. Most production line ammunition of 9mm (9x19) is Minor.

[@josephthecreator]

Thank you for giving a brief explanation/run down for each division within the USPSA. I believe I'll start out with IDPA for my first match(es), and start doing USPSA.

[@davidbetts9344]

Great video, very informative. thank you so much. Are ports and compensators allowed in limited optics. Additionally, can you make a video that speaks to the fitness and mobility requirements of USPSA competition. What you showed looked quite doable for me, however some videos of competitions look much more intense than that.

[@CompetitionChris]

No ports or compensators in limited optics. As for mobility, basically what you see in this video. You're not going to be jogging 50 yards or anything crazy like that. Most stages last about 20 to 30 seconds.

[@cvabuck5489]

This was great information, thank you. I started competing casually with GFEN's Gunmaker's Match, and have been looking for local options with similar divisions to get more practice and experience in.

[@modernwarriorsut]

Glad it was helpful!

[@adamclymer8830]

What a great giveaway! Ty for the opportunity to win.

[@marksanney2088]

Thank you for the information regarding competitive shooting. Greatly appreciated. Thank you as well for opportunity to enter your outstanding giveaway. 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍🏻

[@EDCtexan]

Is there a round limit in Carry optics and i couldnt anything or i missed it in rule book about appendix carry I am looking for a more realistic shooting environment but be able to carry the mags i carry daily. I carry a p365x with 17round mags.. even though shooting at static ranges is fun but the ones around me restrict holster draw or have outrageous range fees just to train

[@wisesage3289]

Thanks for covering this topic. More content like this please.

[@modernwarriorsut]

Stay tuned! More to come

[@Gotrek-sk8rq]

I’m gonna win something someday here lol, videos are great too guys btw! Smoother and cleaner each post.

[@JohnTheRecoilJunkie]

Could you guys do a video on some basic gear you'll need?

[@modernwarriorsut]

Stay tuned!

[@modernwarriorsut]

Thank you, thats very much appreciated

[@michaeldunne1348]

Love Springfield so the giveaway lured me here, but definitely would like to get into competition... assuming they have a Methuselah division 🤣

[@jamesbenson1809]

Awesome. But only two divisions? All the shooters in the video looked super-competent. Pretty sure that I would only qualify for the third division: spectator. I'll check it out the next time I see a competition in my area 😁👍

[@B1NT1]

I have looked at the rules, but it's not clear to me- Are mag wells allowed in the Limited Division? I use a VP9 with a Match Slide/Spring/Barrel and iron sights. Thanks for any help.

[@markhudson6587]

Why aren't flared mag well's permitted? I found a really nice XDM Elite OSP but it has a flared mag well. Darn it. I do have a Walther PDP with Red Dot - so I hope that will be ok. Does Carry Optics allow a weapon light to be attached on the bottom rail?

[@modernwarriorsut]

Flared magwells are permitted in some divisions, but each division will have its specific requirements. And yes, carry optics does allow you to use a light, but the light needs to be functioning.

[@joshgraham2996]

What are the rules for upgraded triggers in production?

[@robertthomas497]

One point I would like to correct about Revolver Division. The cylinder restriction you mentioned for major is wrong. It is allowed to use an 8 shot cylinder in major, BUT you can only fire 6 shots before having to reload. Thus you can use an 8 shot in major or minor. The hazard of using an 8 shot revolver in major is that if you fire more than 6 rounds before reloading, then you earn the prize of being moved to Open Division.

[@modernwarriorsut]

That is a great catch, thank you for the clarification.

[@stoltzk]

So, not very knowledgeable in this but eager to get involved and learn. I currently have a Glock 23 (.40) with optics. Other than that, it is stock. It seems like shooting a .40 does not give me many options for divisions, my question is, would it be allowed to convert my Glock 23 frame to 9mm and still have a division to shoot in like carry optics?

[@modernwarriorsut]

yes that would work for carry optics

[@pete-mz9vr]

Good video

[@junebug19611961]

4th was a charm,,,, I got it. Thank you!!

[@Bfost84]

Time stamp by chance? I'm on my 4th as well!

[@AdamSlobodow]

Hey there, nice review.... / explanation... So I'm newish... thinking production or possibly carry optics... I've got a g47 Ragnarök holster with thigh strap....when you were explaining production division it showed you wearing similar set up while shooting.... but I heard thigh strap is a no no in USPSA/ maybe its ok in that division?

[@modernwarriorsut]

Correct, during actual competition you cannot use the leg strap. We typically tie the strap up during comps, but for practice we use them since we have them for other purposes

[@Frankswooddesigns]

I didn't see a secret code. Did you guys forget to add it to the video?

[@reddesertoffroad]

Its there.

[@BroklynBick]

same same

[@modernwarriorsut]

Its in there.

[@Frankswooddesigns]

@@modernwarriorsut Got it....I must have looked away each time I viewed it. I watched the video 3 times. 🙂

[@junebug19611961]

I watched 3 times and still haven't gotten it...kinda rude nobody shares :(

[@AboveGroundLevelMedia]

For carry optics, does the 59 ounce weight requirement include an empty magazine?

[@bhief473]

Yes

[@AboveGroundLevelMedia]

@@bhief473 thank you

[@brothertank9556]

Great video

[@modernwarriorsut]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bobb8423]

Where in the rules does it state limited optics is only for hammer fired guns ? I missed something thanks.

[@warrenrosen132]

Why does a comped gun that flips less get a scoring advantage over an uncomped gun that flips more?

[@jimbobborg22]

Because they're using 9mm Major versus standard 9mm ammunition.

[@God1goodall1]

Good info

[@koza2]

If the winner is in a capacity limited state, will the mags be removed, pinned, or replaced with 10rnd mags? Or disqualified?

[@modernwarriorsut]

The mags would have to be removed.

[@arfifteen9344]

Can I compete in CO without having an optic on my gun? I just wanna get classified for now. I'll get the optic later.

[@modernwarriorsut]

Unfortunately not, you would need to have the optic mounted to the gun. We would recommend competing in production in the meantime.

[@arfifteen9344]

@@modernwarriorsut Oh, okay. I used to compete in open using my limited gun. I was in the impression I could do the same in CO, since I will be in a disadvantaged position for not having an optic..

[@mr.mr.3301]

So carry optics is just production with optics?

[@OrionCorsari]

No…read the rules. Start with mag restrictions.

[@reddesertoffroad]

Contest runs until 9/6 but winner will be announced 8/6?

[@modernwarriorsut]

**09/06 will be the announcement of the winner

[@D-dogtactical734]

Lmao I did all I’ve shot is open division with my checkmate lol

[@Ghost-80662]

Oh my goodness! 6 letters? What time in the video. Watched it 4 times now. 😬

[@joshuadavis5923]

Did I watch this twice and miss the code-word both times?

[@modernwarriorsut]

Must have, its in there.

[@camohunter]

Sorry I watched a bunch of times and didn't see the code either

[@modernwarriorsut]

Its in there.

[@klrobertson8976]

I listen to the vid 3 times and isn’t hear anything about a code

[@modernwarriorsut]

We dont say the code, it pops up on the screen.

[@klrobertson8976]

Ok . I will have to watch it later then

[@pattyfarnsley7479]

I have watched 3 times. I'll watch later But I've got to be honest it's very frustrating not being able to catch the code word the first time that you listen to it. I know that there are people that have listened to and have found it. I'm not one of those people.

[@modernwarriorsut]

With the code words they pop up on the screen and arent said by Hunter. That being said, we may make some adjustments in later videos.

[@Cory14Tina02]

​@@modernwarriorsutDon't do it. Just ask @magdumpmorgan over at Classic Firearms. Everyone just fast forwards to the end of the video to see & hear the code word.

[@ericweese9737]

didn't you mean, announced on 9/6 not 8/6? 😂😂🤣🤣 (sorry)

[@modernwarriorsut]

yes

[@RuKuS222]

I must be blind

[@davee.9580]

I have watched this video at least 7Xs, I see no pop up word that is the secret code! This is getting frustrating and obnoxious at this point!!! Well over an hour out of my life seems to be wasted! This is ridiculous! I GIVE UP!

[@modernwarriorsut]

Its in there.

[@MrHawkssoccer10]

No idea how some of you are missing the code it's pretty blatant lmao

[@Ghost-80662]

Blatant? I've missed so many times now. 😮

[@hellhawk4680]

the only thing keeping me from shooting in this is the stupid gear requirement. This is single handed the most moronic way to setup this sport. It should be like all other sports BASED off skill level of the shooter. I can show up against tiger woods with the best gear in the game and I will never have a chance of beating him. USPSA should re think their entire model and focus on shooters skill and class them based off of that. It would make the classes more competitive and closer. But this will Never happen because the moronic people running it.

[@modernwarriorsut]

Personally i can see both sides of the argument. In part, i completely understand the reasoning behind the different divisions as it keeps guys who have a way larger wallet and way more expensive equipment in a category all their own, while allowing others to compete in divisions that best suite the gear they have, which makes it more of a skill based event within each division. The other benefit to keeping it separated into divisions with gear requirements is it does weed out those who use their expensive gear as a crutch to hide their inability to shoot well, seeing as how they will compete agains other guys with similar gear they will need to have skill in order to stay relevant.

[@ethan128]

You’re guys store has horrible customer service, getting barked at and stared down while looking at rifles is not my definition of a good time and yes I’m old enough I’m 20 for crying out loud

[@modernwarriorsut]

I’m genuinely sorry to hear about that. That is not how our guys should have conducted themselves and I’ll make sure that those in charge are made aware that this has happened. I hope you come back and we get another chance to redeem ourselves. -Hunter

[@ethan128]

@@modernwarriorsut thank you man, maybe I’ll give it another go