DIY Aluminum Brazing holes in canoe / boat with Blue Demon Triple Play / aluminum solder & welding

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robdude1969

robdude1969

5 жыл бұрын

DIY Boat repair: Today we are doing Aluminum welding, aluminum soldering, or more technically aluminum brazing some holes in the bottom of a vintage Grumman canoe. This aluminum boat has been out in the elements for over 50 years and the salty air has done a bit of damage. We need to do a vintage canoe restoration.We will do aluminum welding or aluminum brazing to patch some old leaks. It's aluminum solder in a sense. This repair is better than epoxies like JB weld because it bonds to the metal and doesn't degrade in the sun.
First clean the area of paint, oxidation and other debris with an aggressive stainless steel wire wheel on an angle grinder. We then use Blue Demon BDTP-125-01T Triple Play Low Temp Aluminum-Zinc Brazing Rod 1/8" x 18" and heat it with a Bernzomatic Map gas torch. This rod may be similar to Alumaloy, Super Alloy, or other multi metal rods for aluminum repair. The metal heats up and the rod melts in and flows and pools much like solder.
The repairs can be left alone or ground flush as desired. I will be coating them with aluminum paint to protect and match the rest of the boat.
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@paulcanon5533
@paulcanon5533 13 күн бұрын
You make it look like even I could do it. Thanks from Texas!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 13 күн бұрын
You can do it!
@johnspruit7296
@johnspruit7296 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job .Bring that old boat back to usable condition for many more years. Ontario Canada.
@adamsell5368
@adamsell5368 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work!! I just started learning on my canoe and its definitely a skill to be able to do this. Thanks for the video.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Good luck on your projects! How did it turn out?
@losonsrenoster
@losonsrenoster 4 жыл бұрын
This video adds to my list of to-do ideas, thanks.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Let us know how it comes out!
@MrRainbowrooster
@MrRainbowrooster 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad to know this as an option
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
good luck!
@Meandmoreofme
@Meandmoreofme 4 жыл бұрын
So interesting! Thanks 😊
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@John3Ks
@John3Ks 3 жыл бұрын
thank YOU FOR THIS DEMO !!!
@lennygid8452
@lennygid8452 4 жыл бұрын
nice work
@outboardfixer
@outboardfixer 5 жыл бұрын
Great, helpful vid for the beginner. Who knew!
@outboardfixer
@outboardfixer 5 жыл бұрын
Repairing the international space station.
@yvesf5355
@yvesf5355 3 жыл бұрын
I THINK YOU ID A REAL GOOD JOB EXPLAINING THANK YOU ,
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@joeseiber5103
@joeseiber5103 4 жыл бұрын
Very relaxing
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. except for the melting rubber fumes.... I have other projects that will be much more enjoyable.
@patrickpeterman4890
@patrickpeterman4890 4 жыл бұрын
VERY INFORMATIVE THANKS I ,M GOING TO GIVE IT A SHOT !!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Peterman tell us how it goes for you!
@kevindouglas2060
@kevindouglas2060 3 жыл бұрын
If I ever fix up another old boat I'm going to try your way. I've got an old $20 rowboat that I "repaired" about 30 years ago. I used patches bolts and caulk. It still floats okay but doesn't look very professional. I like your way much better, although it's probably more expensive and certainly takes longer.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment - Good luck on yours, if it works, maybe leave it. I think there is a place for certain repairs... I tried this on a rip and it wasn't the best choice. Check this video too to see how I did on another canoe repair - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5WWlHV9gdlnY7M
@misterbulger
@misterbulger Жыл бұрын
Perfect! Turns out my new jon boat was only $50 because it leaks lol. Ill defintely try these out.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 5 жыл бұрын
Had some weird aluminum brazing material in the 1980s . You had to get a puddle formed then scrape the surface under liquid braze with stainless steel. Very hard to use. This stuff is much newer and looks like it works a lot better. I need something to try where I can’t use any electric or even acetylene set up
@flarpification
@flarpification 5 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of commenters here who are disturbed about the presence of the rubber under that puddle of filler rod metal. I think that as long as you succeeded, then you know what you're doing and it's just another way of doing things. But to satisfy that contingent, I suppose another way to do it would be to apply a patch that covers the entire area and only braze the edges, so that the heat is away from the rubber.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
all true, and I torched a bunch of the flotation inside the bulkhead too... less than excellent situation, but certainly more effective than my past glue jobs.
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa 5 жыл бұрын
At about 9:20 I would have tapped the strip down again. Instead of using the rod like filler . Just leaving room for faster corroding later. What ever can seep in from the top.....
@maxcolcombe1084
@maxcolcombe1084 2 жыл бұрын
The bob Ross of brazing
@joe4282
@joe4282 3 жыл бұрын
You should put together a whole aluminum boat from a precut aluminum boat kit with this. Muggyweld did boat patching too but no one ever put together a whole boat!
@carlschmiedeke151
@carlschmiedeke151 5 жыл бұрын
You remind me of Bob Ross, the way you sound & you stroking your rod, like he did his brush
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
wow. I love that. I'm super calm too. I'm burning rubber and filling cracks... it's all happy aluminum brazing.... lol
@carlschmiedeke151
@carlschmiedeke151 5 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 omg, lol, after I read my comment I fell out laughing my ass off, wow that definitely was not meant to sound like that, I was just meaning how smooth you were with your ALUMINUM BRAZING ROD, man I had to clean that up , lmmfao😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the comments are more entertaining than the Video. Carl's remark reminded me about this old British video ...... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZjFlIR_iZx1g8U Just leaves you both laughing but bewildered at the same time . Something to be said about proofreading ..... it's just as important everyday. Ha !
@jaredlabriola
@jaredlabriola 4 жыл бұрын
@@carlschmiedeke151 lmfao
@carlschmiedeke151
@carlschmiedeke151 4 жыл бұрын
@@1silvervespa lol, yeah, I went back , & read my comment, & fell out laughing my ass off, I was like damn that didn't come out sounding like it was meant, lol
@BruceLyeg
@BruceLyeg 4 жыл бұрын
I had just started to watch your video in my caravan I had towed by a lorry to the lake, when a band of local ruffians hoisted the tongue of my trailer and Bob's you're uncle, they wheeled me lodgings right into the sea. I must have floated along for nearly seven minutes watching this video on my iPad before I noticed my caravan was taking on water and I was now around 20 knots off the shore of Liverpool! As I type this comment, I'm typing with one hand and bailing with another. All the while praying to Ganesh that the battery in my laptop will last long enough for me to get these, my last final words out. You see, I cannot swim. It's very likely that as you are reading this, my bloated corpse is sitting on the bottom of the big pond, possible becoming fish food, perhaps even a shark. Allow me to say, this is the finest video I have ever had the pleasure of viewing and am chuffed like a kipper that I may have made it long enough to let you know. Good life to all, I may not go down in history, but I will go down with this ship. Ahoy me mateys! And, Gramma? get your ass into that great big kitchen in the sky, because this lad is coming home to meet his maker and to eat some of your fried chicken!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Did you get the fried chicken or float to shore? I bet if you welded up them seams, the trailer would float on! Thank you for your comment, it will bring me joy in your honor and remembrance.
@rtp3962
@rtp3962 4 жыл бұрын
You have to love a guy that goes down with the ship!
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
Chicken deep fried in hell.
@61066clocks
@61066clocks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the info...How is the repair area's you made holding up? I have a Donor boat that needs this kind of repair?
@juliomock4156
@juliomock4156 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demostrstion. I'm new and I want to lern how to solder aluminum 2mm thick together and also to join aluminum with garvanized steel. Can you make a video showing how to do it?
@05222007MER
@05222007MER 4 жыл бұрын
Some friendly advice, cut the aluminum out of the bottom add a screen door and smother it with flex seal. Like new!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe for my next video. I bet it would be a fun project.
@carmendeli3339
@carmendeli3339 3 жыл бұрын
Hello fishies
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the old trick of putting lines of bar soap next to the area being heated would give easier indication of the surface temp . As used by people bending and shaping aluminum . Sometimes it's nessasary to heat thin aluminum before bending to prevent it just cracking. The soap blackens as the aluminum reaches working temp. Might help with when to bring in the welding rod saving the poking proding method . Just dry bar soap draw a line say half inch from where your going to weld . Then start heating your repair target area and watching for the soap to go brown . Then see if the aluminum rod melts more readily when touched to the work area. Could be simple aid to the anticipating surface temp A real visual indicator of the surface temp. Just regular household bar soap.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
1silvervespa that’s a cool tip. I will certainly try it.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 5 жыл бұрын
At my job I have some different heat marker pencils. If I get any of this I’ll have to try using some of them to measure the heat.
@flarpification
@flarpification 5 жыл бұрын
I use two other things to indicate surface temperature: black sharpie and acetylene soot, either of which work perfectly fine. Probably anything that winds up being carbon under the heat of the flame will work just as well, as I suspect the temperature at which it becomes CO2 is similar to the melting point of the brazing rod.
@normantaulbee4011
@normantaulbee4011 4 жыл бұрын
what brand of brazing rod are you using? looks nice
@Wheelabarraback
@Wheelabarraback 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much that was so helpful to me ! Very satisfying to watch too
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
good luck with your project! whatcha working on? It was fun to do... I can't wait to do another aluminum project. :-)
@Wheelabarraback
@Wheelabarraback 5 жыл бұрын
I will be repairing holes in a very old riveted aluminium boat which has been in the family for 3 generations. It’s 11 foot 6 and has been everywhere .
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelabarraback I know the feeling... I have had mine since the 1970's. Let me know how it goes!
@Wheelabarraback
@Wheelabarraback 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I will I was going to weld it but saw you do a job on yours and decided to braise instead. I have to get the Mapp gas as I just have oxy and LPG . Oxy will obviously blow holes in the boat LPG too cool.
@keegancb84
@keegancb84 5 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelabarraback oxy-lpg is pretty stable. Thats my favorite fuel gas to braze with. Not for welding but perfect for brazing. Map gas takes significantly longer than oxy-lpg.
@chrismiller9611
@chrismiller9611 Жыл бұрын
I think that such projects may have a smoother result by using an aluminum flux. The flux will greatly help combat the rapidly forming oxide layer and allow rapid wetting of the surface.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Жыл бұрын
ASMR!!
@scramblendan
@scramblendan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering if the rod metal would have flowed better if you had used some flux?
@scottvincent7666
@scottvincent7666 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@scottmurphy8517
@scottmurphy8517 4 жыл бұрын
I would think the expansion and contraction of the materials would make the rivets next to your repair begin to leak
@normantaulbee4011
@normantaulbee4011 4 жыл бұрын
do you know what a rivet is?
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
@@normantaulbee4011 The sound a frog makes.
@Scubastevetampabay
@Scubastevetampabay Жыл бұрын
@@normantaulbee4011 Do you know these rivets have rubber seals in them?
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Жыл бұрын
@@Scubastevetampabay California seals?
@papasfatcat8648
@papasfatcat8648 4 жыл бұрын
Just getting ready to recycle old aluminium canoe I rescued for the metal recycling bin. I have some big holes from previous owners trying to weld smaller holes and making them bigger. Bought some aluminium plates to patch big holes. Would like to see this canoe on the water again. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Great video.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
spend some time with it... bend your patches to fit curves well. hold your work flat or level and give it a try!
@nephron1896
@nephron1896 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering whether the larger area of riveted separation might have been amendable to welding an overlain, thicker gauge aluminum piece, effectively spanning the area of structural compromise. The areas of disruption and separation, involving riveted aluminum and a water tight rubber seal, would likely be associated with progressive weakening and further compromise of adjacent rivets and rubber sealing. Thanks!!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
another person suggested a large patch as well... I think it would be tricky in this area, and this repair has help up quite well....
@michaelsimmons4883
@michaelsimmons4883 Жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 Good to hear it held up! I was thinking to pin it down with a screw then braze it closed. Afterward you could grind away the screw from the inside if needed.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsimmons4883 most of this repair was ahead of the front bulkhead and not accessible from the inside. Thanks for the idea though!
@peterh4446
@peterh4446 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m restoring an old Grumman Sport Boat and will use the same materials / procedures. I am going to use 2-part epoxy system with heat gun on most seems. What primer and paint did you use and how did it work? Thanks!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
been using an oil based aluminum paint on it for years... hard to tell when it goes bad.... looks like the metal it's supposed to be!
@peterh4446
@peterh4446 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@barrylitchfield250
@barrylitchfield250 4 жыл бұрын
You're working with a spot in the middle of a heat sink that's about 17 feet long! That's making it a challenge!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
yes.
@Bobbybbops
@Bobbybbops 11 ай бұрын
Should you do both sides?
@franciscoruiz3526
@franciscoruiz3526 Жыл бұрын
Can u give me a link to where to Buy the brazzing rod
@itsacountrythang1374
@itsacountrythang1374 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could use the brazing on the outside holes and jb weld the inside for more of reassurance or some epoxy on the inside ?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
The whole repair is behind a bulkhead, but that would be great to seal the area. I have done this exact same technique on another canoe.
@ginoasci2876
@ginoasci2876 4 жыл бұрын
I Blue demon triple play aluminum brazing rods braze cracked cast aluminum that is 1/8” thick, and approximately 8” long. Unfortunately i ground a V- Grooves on both sides to prep it, but realized that when i go to braze the second side, the heat will loosen the first side. I’m thinking to grind the grooves thru just enough to put a damn on one side so the aluminum rod can then flow thru to the other side, then just finish filling the groove. Will this work? If not could you please let me know if you have a better idea?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Did it work?
@abrahamabby9430
@abrahamabby9430 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video to learn in one go. However please try and speak louder next time. Thanks and well-done.. I will subscribe
@ginoasci2876
@ginoasci2876 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this video. does that stuff work on cast aluminum ?
@jjtt6866
@jjtt6866 4 жыл бұрын
It works fine for cast aluminium, atleast Alutite brand works. d2y5sgsy8bbmb8.cloudfront.net/v2/5bd6727f-7015-576f-b1a4-fb46a9501b97/ShortForm-Generic-480p-16-9-1409173089793-rpcbe5.mp4
@jjtt6866
@jjtt6866 4 жыл бұрын
@Fat Italian to use Alutite and heat fix spot very hot (almost melting point) so it bonds with aluminium properly it makes very strong bond. but 2x 250mm rods cost like 40euro and it is quite risky if it is first time using it.
@ginoasci2876
@ginoasci2876 4 жыл бұрын
Fat Italian: cast aluminum not aluminum. isn’t there a difference? can you weld cast aluminum? i’ll have someone do it if it’s possible.
@eatmeout6270
@eatmeout6270 3 жыл бұрын
@Fat Italian i hate you and your name,, i hate italians, full stop.. you make me sick
@masteRocker67
@masteRocker67 5 жыл бұрын
Will this work on a motorcycle cylinder block with a small hole? Does it not melt if the engine is hot?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
not sure if it's ideal for your need, but your motorcycle block wont get as hot as this stuff needs to melt.
@scampbell9140
@scampbell9140 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I am restoring a 1958 heavy plated aluminum 16' Springbok. Do you know if there is a better weld rod for such a boat?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
S Campbell these worked great on mine. Take your time. Clean your aluminum well.
@FMOF
@FMOF 3 жыл бұрын
These rods hold 50k psi. The only thing they are not good for is over 1000 degree pieces, Like an Aluminum exhaust.
@willyorca5364
@willyorca5364 3 жыл бұрын
Is that how you frost cakes? Your not coming to my birthday party bro. Lol
@markrenee08
@markrenee08 4 жыл бұрын
@robdude1969 iv tried this but the alloy hull wouldnt get hot enough, yet small jobs works fine, i circled the area for 10mins and the hts2000 rods wouldnt melt on heated area, any pointers?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Mark n Renee is the area clean? Steel brush until shiny. Use mapp gas. Aside from that, not sure. Heat the hull and drag the rod into the hot metal.
@baljeetsheoran9557
@baljeetsheoran9557 5 жыл бұрын
What is road by which welding is being done ,is it is of simple aluminium alloy and what is it called.
@cdouglas1942
@cdouglas1942 5 жыл бұрын
Blue Diamond Triple Play
@leonardsmith9970
@leonardsmith9970 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed you said that the screw was stainless steel. You get a dissimilar metal reaction between stainless steel and aluminum. Effectively the aluminum will corrode away from the stainless steel . Always place an inert separator between stainless steel and aluminum e.g nylon or PTFE washer.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
That’s going to be tough in this situation. Thanks for bringing it up though.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
Electrolytic reaction.
@mrzoinky5999
@mrzoinky5999 Жыл бұрын
@@usernamemykel Galvanic corrosion
@vansantsam
@vansantsam 4 жыл бұрын
I think I would use JB Weld where that rubber is..
@jaredlabriola
@jaredlabriola 4 жыл бұрын
great video. i have multiple spots to hit with brazing on my 78 boat.Have you tried other rods? i was about to spend big bucks on some super alloy 5 rods + flux, about 100 on amazon, ive also seen cheap ass fluxless rods at lowes for 5$...
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Let us know what you use and how it works.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
Alumiweld @Horror Fright, just as good as any and inexpensive.
@themaximusone
@themaximusone 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you think you might have crammed some up under that lip if you could not rivet it down and I am kinda lost as to why you did not??? I wont tell you what to do or how to do it, it is not my place but I am curious as to why on either :)
@seanruddy
@seanruddy 5 жыл бұрын
Why not drill and put rivets back in along where the old rubber is?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
The back side rotted away on a lot of them. This is inside the bulkhead area as well. It would require much more invasive work to get inside to re-rivet. We have been using JB weld for a couple decades now, but it only lasts so long.
@shafi420
@shafi420 5 жыл бұрын
I used the same rod. I feel like the rod forms puddle for me and becomes very liquid and runny. How did you keep it from running away from you.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
I had to level the canoe to fix just that.
@mikek4610
@mikek4610 5 жыл бұрын
Playdough
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikek4610 that's great!
@gordonmartin1104
@gordonmartin1104 3 жыл бұрын
Any update on how the joints weathered over time?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
sealed up great. I did paint the boat as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZWVh4NrZ8-toKM
@shawnhampton2895
@shawnhampton2895 5 жыл бұрын
Next time you're trying to solder two pieces together like you are the boat get a flat head screwdriver to help push the breeze into the Gap to help hold it better also would have helped if you had something to hold that together with not trying to be mean but how well did this hold water what is it leaking more I ask because I seen some of the shield going up in flames
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
The video is short... I spent time on it until it was done. I did cut some of the rubber seal out. it was nasty when it went up!
@joeysmith3912
@joeysmith3912 5 жыл бұрын
rivet that back down first
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
The rivets were inside the bulkhead and inaccessible. The bulkhead hardware was corroded and I would have done more damage to "do it right." I have riveted a new rib in the middle, so skills weren't the issue.
@30CalCoreLokt
@30CalCoreLokt 4 жыл бұрын
hows the repair holding up? Looks effective!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
I did this repair over a year and a half ago now, and it hasn't changed a bit. I did just smooth out the high spots, fill, and repaint it this week actually to get ready for summer.
@30CalCoreLokt
@30CalCoreLokt 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 nice! I hope my boat will never need a patch but it's nice to know there is a good solution
@MrSims-ky2ne
@MrSims-ky2ne 4 жыл бұрын
8:00 on I couldnt watch you try and braze the most sooty area on that whole canoe, unbelievable.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Sims the Titanic sank too. Crazy huh?!?
@MrSims-ky2ne
@MrSims-ky2ne 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 the rms Olympic sunk. Wearing the titanic's nametag, 1912 insurance fraud.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSims-ky2ne mind blown. new conspiracies every day.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
social.shorthand.com/TitanicMystery/jCPyIbzzPVc/did-the-titanic-really-sink-or-was-it-olympic
@ukieyseniola384
@ukieyseniola384 Жыл бұрын
Pls what kind of rod are you using?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 Жыл бұрын
I put link in description. cheers!
@TheDIYer
@TheDIYer 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use er 4043 or er 4047 for this application 🙄
@FMOF
@FMOF 3 жыл бұрын
These are a zinc rod. A welder would turn that brittle metal to dust.
@hughrs
@hughrs 4 жыл бұрын
Does it last? Or does it start to separate like JB Weld..?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Stratton it lasts.
@hughrs
@hughrs 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 ok..I'm going to try it on my boat
@sammyrothrock6981
@sammyrothrock6981 2 жыл бұрын
That seam needs cleaning and acetone or alcohol before brazed. Adhesion and cleaning is important
@humdrumsrelax8662
@humdrumsrelax8662 4 жыл бұрын
hi there..could i use this to stick 1.5mm carbon steel together?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
try it and let us know your results. I used these on aluminum.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
@@skiffintherift9179 are you serious? coat hangers melt like that?!?!?! all I have is plastic! I can't even go try it to see if your joking or not!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
@@skiffintherift9179 after you said that, I found a couple references to it with oxy... it would be interesting to try! Maybe a new video!
@bighoss234
@bighoss234 2 жыл бұрын
Can u send me the link to the rods u bought.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 2 жыл бұрын
Check video description. Good luck!
@guyh.4553
@guyh.4553 4 жыл бұрын
Slow your torch down. Heats up the area more evenly & you get a better braze
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@tommiller4490
@tommiller4490 5 жыл бұрын
Can we see if it leaks?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
The holes I filled did their job. The brazed areas were sanded to remove high and rough spots. Next is a fresh coat of aluminum paint. I may do a part two video of that soon.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Part 2 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZWVh4NrZ8-toKM
@normantaulbee4011
@normantaulbee4011 4 жыл бұрын
oops I didn't see the brand name in title of video while ago.. anyways I will try to find some of that here in Bowling Green ky.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
I have amazon links in the description to make it easy for you. Let us know how your project turns out!
@bloodrunspoo69
@bloodrunspoo69 2 жыл бұрын
How is this braze holding up 3 years later may I ask
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Thanks for asking.
@bloodrunspoo69
@bloodrunspoo69 2 жыл бұрын
And how many trips do you think it’s held for
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloodrunspoo69 it doesn’t get a lot of use, but it is sitting exposed to the elements.
@dougasbailey6864
@dougasbailey6864 4 жыл бұрын
So can u do this on horizontal. Boat can't be moved
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
gravity pulls the puddle down.... may consult a welder if this isn't an option. TIG would be next choice, but not as easy, so check with a pro.
@dougasbailey6864
@dougasbailey6864 3 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 yep I'm a pro. Don't want to pay sum to run argon. Aluium boat so thin, wuts. Scares me
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta get it flat. It goes liquid fast.
@rtp3962
@rtp3962 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between brands if rod? It seems like there alot of choices out there.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
I have only used the Blue Demon sticks... let us know your findings!
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 4 жыл бұрын
How in the world did you get a giant boat hot enough? Also, from what I understand, MAPP gas is no longer available.
@rtp3962
@rtp3962 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 I had a little time today to use aluminum rod for the first time. I had the Harbor Freight version and found it to be no problem. I had to try the aluminum can hole plug and it bridged over just fine. Joining light gage straps was a snap. Its ok in my book! This opens up a whole new world of projects using aluminum.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
@@rtp3962 sweet... I had seen the rods there, but still have a ton of these. you plugged the mouth of a can?!?! I gotta try that!
@rtp3962
@rtp3962 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 no no. Not the mouth of the can. I drilled a 3/8" hole in the bottom and plugged that off. It bridged fine for that but I'm sure it wouldn't do the mouth. It opens up alot of projects for the future that I would like to do out of aluminum, but my mig and Tig skills wouldnt allow me to. It's fun non the less
@eeiichill
@eeiichill 3 жыл бұрын
Will does it leak
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
no leak.
@ladraode9dedos409
@ladraode9dedos409 4 жыл бұрын
Did it sealed after burning the old rüber?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
yes - but the worst part is the foam in the bulkhead has suffered.
@ladraode9dedos409
@ladraode9dedos409 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 I wonder why! Good job anyways!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Andre Demetrio the worst part is that the bulkhead is quite sealed and getting new foam in there will be a challenge.
@ladraode9dedos409
@ladraode9dedos409 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 Rob, Aluminum is always very tricky because of the aluminum oxide, it is very hard and smooth micro structure, does not to like to stick with anything. West systems sells a etching kit, you can do the etching to remove the oxide and improve the "roughness" of the surface, then you can apply a "flexible" epoxy fillet to make the good seal. I have use the gflex and it was good for me. Check it out! www.westsystem.com/specialty-epoxies/gflex-655-thickened-epoxy-adhesive/
@badluk1
@badluk1 3 жыл бұрын
Unable to tip my boat.... Can I braze vertically?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
good luck with that.
@badluk1
@badluk1 3 жыл бұрын
Bad day ?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Jacobs it gets rather fluid. Gravity may affect your outcome. Really, I’m wishing you luck!
@badluk1
@badluk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 thank you
@Boscovius
@Boscovius 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how hard it would be to just install new rivets.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 2 жыл бұрын
To do this repair perfect, we would have needed access behind the bulkheads. It would have required rebuilding / replacing the bulkheads as well which were a bit worse off at their mounting points.... while this "patch" isn't ideal, it has been quite functional for years now.
@klaw1347
@klaw1347 2 жыл бұрын
Is pure aluminum??
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 2 жыл бұрын
No, it’s a much softer alloy that bonds to aluminum. Check the data sheets from manufacturer. Should be in the description.
@auto108
@auto108 4 жыл бұрын
What is MAP gas?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › MAPP_gas "MAPP gas" is a trademarked name, belonging to The Linde Group, and previously belonging to the Dow Chemical Company, for a fuel gas based on a stabilized mixture of methylacetylene (propyne) and propadiene. The name comes from the original chemical composition, methylacetylene-propadiene propane.
@rickhilliard2545
@rickhilliard2545 4 жыл бұрын
It shows you where you are headed...lol
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
It's a hotter gas than propane, so you can get back to your video games quicker. Costs a little more though.
@drizzrls7490
@drizzrls7490 Жыл бұрын
Put some Flux on there ig wont puddle up as bad
@bkhuu60
@bkhuu60 4 жыл бұрын
Do you need flux?
@rtp3962
@rtp3962 4 жыл бұрын
Non. Just clean it with sandcloth or brush with a ss wire brush
@williampopow8609
@williampopow8609 4 жыл бұрын
Never use a stainless steel wire wheel on aluminum believe it or not when aluminum and steel touch and make contact it will cause corrosion in the aluminum, I got taught that when I did autobody courses for the aluminum ford trucks
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
William Popow interesting. Never heard that before.
@comingasathiefinthenight1120
@comingasathiefinthenight1120 3 жыл бұрын
Mine wont stick it just flakes off ?????? ?????????????? HELP
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
the surface probably isn't hot enough or clean enough.
@comingasathiefinthenight1120
@comingasathiefinthenight1120 3 жыл бұрын
An i also am using the kind rolld up like fishing string looking not a straight rod
@terjeoseberg990
@terjeoseberg990 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's something that would dissolve the rubber and paint in the cracks. Maybe acetone?
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
there is a strip about an inch wide running the entire length of the canoe.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
Time for a plasticized boat.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
barf.
@jasonreynolds4050
@jasonreynolds4050 4 жыл бұрын
Mark it with Sharpe first and when it gets hot enough, the Sharpe will disappear.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
interesting! Thanks.
@jasonreynolds4050
@jasonreynolds4050 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 I've seen similar stuff done with a torch, they get the soot all over the piece and they adjust the flame to heat it up, when the soot disappears, it's hot enough. I got the Sharpe trick off another old-timer.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonreynolds4050 I love it. Good to read it again... maybe I will remember it this time!
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job, but clean the metal better. Any black spots should be bright fella. Just saying.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
good tip. subsequent experiences proved that essential!!
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 Nice to have someone notice experience and take guidance from it too.
@Bac_choi
@Bac_choi Жыл бұрын
No chance you fixed a leak
@ASAPJermz
@ASAPJermz 4 жыл бұрын
You need to work on your heat placement and rod control. Nevertheless, thanks!
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy's HVAC Journey this was my first try. Thanks. I’m guessing you use a lot of this in hvac.
@ASAPJermz
@ASAPJermz 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 I've never brazed aluminum, we throw it away on jobs and replace it with copper or PEX lol.. But in my experience I always concentrate my heat on the piping or materials first, get it red cherry hot, super close to melting, then move my flame to the fitting, joint, T, ect.. I'm not an expert but it could've been done a little differently. Either way no hate bro, appreciate you posting this!
@ASAPJermz
@ASAPJermz 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 I use a B Tank and Extreme Turbo Torch setup - it's Acetylene / Air. Just because it's easier to lug around as opposed to 2 bottles with Oxygen/Acetylene.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy's HVAC Journey I have a copper pipe job coming up. One day. A bunch of old valves all the way to the main. Each one has a slow drip.
@ASAPJermz
@ASAPJermz 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdude1969 Nice! I'd be brazing all of that copper! 😂 BUT Propress is the big boy stuff now, takes all of the fun out of burning stuff up! Ha
@kadetsuwoko3918
@kadetsuwoko3918 4 жыл бұрын
Aku jajal kok ra iso pak?
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 4 жыл бұрын
Gort, Klatuu says to incinerate the earthing's military tanks.
@sheilamclaughlin963
@sheilamclaughlin963 2 жыл бұрын
Use electric rod for the flux
@Konstantin8006
@Konstantin8006 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's like a three year old with a coloring book. I think you need more experience my friend. And why didn't you hammer down that strip before brazing? That's ok, we learn as we go. Good luck with your channel.
@TheArris1
@TheArris1 5 жыл бұрын
Always wear a Respirator when welding
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 5 жыл бұрын
good advice....
@willyorca5364
@willyorca5364 3 жыл бұрын
Your using the flame to melt the rod, your gona have a weaker bond by doing that rather than just heat the surface of the item your welding.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
agreed! thanks for your tip.
@travisleach5916
@travisleach5916 5 жыл бұрын
A wise man once said..."If you caht fix it, FUCK IT and Duck it". duct tape to the rescue .
@michaelhowell8489
@michaelhowell8489 3 жыл бұрын
Volume!😂
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 3 жыл бұрын
sorry - I wish youtube had a normalize volume feature.
@atakanbeyi3505
@atakanbeyi3505 4 жыл бұрын
If u know how to weld, the pain to watch
@Jeff-gu6nb
@Jeff-gu6nb 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone has a welder set up for aluminum.
@ASAPJermz
@ASAPJermz 4 жыл бұрын
This was painful to watch but hopefully it works better than the JB Weld he said they've used for 30+ years 😂
@jgrm4443
@jgrm4443 4 жыл бұрын
This is none of my business, I know. I am sure your repair did NOT make a difference.
@robdude1969
@robdude1969 4 жыл бұрын
It plugged the leaks. Thanks for your thoughts.
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