DIY Cheap Electronic Drum Kit Tutorial - (Alesis Trigger IO, Superior Drummer)

[@leecrow3k1]

I'm impressed. A home made E-kit. Be proud of yourself. This is something most of us couldn't have done. You wanted an e-kit so bad, you built own. And I think it sounds great! Great drumming Too.

[@ohad469]

Thank you very much. I'm impressed by your kind comment.

[@leecrow3k1]

Your very welcome. And God bless.

[@ohad469]

You too!

[@alpham]

Makes me want to be a drummer:)

[@ohad469]

So you could drum like a gentleman!

[@jjs9672]

It will make you even more alpha! I love your vids man

[@steverodriguez8840]

Wow!

[@hogblockula9335]

wait why is alpha m here lmao

[@ajzuniga6977]

COOl! Genius pure genius: D !

[@ohad469]

Thank you :)

[@mitcholla]

I’d personally have just gone with a pearl drum rack. Otherwise the attention to detail in your project planning is admirable alone. You could have probably just thrown this together, but you did it the right way. The rendering and what not, I can appreciate that.

[@ohad469]

Thanks! I thought about that option, but the shipment was expensive at the time.

[@XxXATRXxX]

Dude that is AMAZING!!!

[@ohad469]

***** :D

[@musicbydavidyoungs]

Nice work and recycling! Good job.

[@marcellejogaudinn3836]

Drums are really fun. :)

[@homeofdiy2023]

I love your work

[@ohad469]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[@julsrique9148]

Great snare sound . men your a good inventor.

[@ohad469]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@Xy.123.xy.4]

So awesome

[@ohad469]

Glad you like it!

[@stevepethel6843]

Inventive ideas.Thanks for sharing creative vision.Nice..

[@ohad469]

+Steve Pethel Thank you for watching!

[@nsklav229]

Man you are the macgyver of drums !!!!!!

[@ohad469]

+nsklav229 Thanks dude! I wish I knew how to play the guitar.... I would have built one too :P

[@nsklav229]

+Ohad Blaier if u've been able to built this you are able to do everything you want keep it up !!! cheers

[@ohad469]

+nsklav229 Good luck to you too man :)

[@AmitNetanel]

Amazing dude. Just amazing.

[@ohad469]

Amit Netanel Thanks man!

[@DanHowardMtl]

Awesome bro!

[@ohad469]

***** Thanks man!! Glad you like it.

[@inamoment1]

+Ohad Blaier Great job bro, I wish this world would have only half of your creativity. Cheers.

[@ohad469]

+inamoment1 Haha Thanks dude, It's nice to see people appreciate the effort :)

[@amit369]

Nice Work!

[@ohad469]

amit369 :P

[@matthewkassien4659]

sooo cool. could you please make a detailed walk through of how you made all your pieces.

[@ohad469]

+Matthew K Thanks man! Getting into so much detail would be too long for a video. Tell me what you're looking for, and I'll give you the details :)

[@pjdahmen]

Cool idea

[@ohad469]

Thanks

[@szavuiszilveszter2087]

it can be even cheaper if you integrate the piezo into the bass pedal and olso you don't need a real snare to convert it to DIY you can make a wooden circle and place the piezo on it and then the foam...I think it would be the same...I like this video for giving me the idea of the rack it does the job and looks great! I want to know how did you add so many parts to the module? I mean you have a lot of cymbals,crashes and rides... can you tell me pls? thx! keep up the good work!

[@ohad469]

Hi, I wanted to make a set that would feel as real as possible. Piezo in a bass pedal, and a wooden circle snare isn't good enough. I wouldn't like to play such a set. I am glad the video helped you. And to your question: Connecting many parts to one module is easy. In my module every input is Stereo, which means you can split it to 2 Mono inputs using an adapter. That way you can connect 2 single zone drums/cymbals, instead of one instrument that has 2 zones.

[@steverodriguez8840]

Wow!

[@arfaxad773]

How did you do the connection for the ride cymbal ?? How do you get the bell sound out of the module ?? I mean what are the settings

[@ohad469]

The ride is a 2 zones cymbal, it has 2 piezos, one on the bow and one on the bell. When I hit the bell, the module produces a bell midi note, and a bell sound is played on top of that. Both piezos are connected through a stereo input in the module.

[@keithwoodcrest]

Dude. That sounded waaayy better than I anticipated it was going to. That's awesome. I have an Alesis Dm7X 6-piece kit, my first ekit in 26 years of playing and I love it. What module are you using to power the kit? I dig the cymbal sounds a lot

[@ohad469]

+Brian Homan Thanks! I'm using an Alesis Trigger I/O module, it produces only midi notes (no sounds). The cymbal sounds are from Superior Drummer (drums vst).

[@alexisvidal6200]

Dude this is awesome...! I see that you're kidding the bell and the crash side of the cymbal, at 4:04, and the sound actually changes, is this superior drummer is well? I have the same question but for the hi hat, how do you manage to change between open and closed and in between? This is frantically awesome bro! Good job! :)

[@ohad469]

Thanks dude, You must have an analogue hi hat pedal, and a module that supports that feature. Once you have these, all that's left is configuring your VST or module.

[@ByWillAlone]

Amaze

[@ohad469]

:)

[@ByWillAlone]

Ohad Blaier :D

[@matenorth]

Great conversion!!Do you know where i can get these little black boxes to put my female jack inside?

[@ohad469]

Thank you! Sure, search "Plastic Electronic Project Box" on ebay and find the size you need.

[@mstr_anderson]

Hi. Can you please tell me about your hihat setup? I have got the alesis trigger io.. I am going to buy low volume cymbals. I am going to put piezo’s on the cymbals, but not sure how to go about the hihat? What did you do and how do you control it? Look forward to your reply. Thanks in advance.

[@ohad469]

I made it from a of a top part of a real Hihat, with a single piezo. I also bought a hihat pedal to control the open/close position (which connects to the trigger IO). Last thing to do is configure Superior Drummer to work with the pedal.

[@mstr_anderson]

Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me what pedal you bought, to control the open close? 💪

[@ohad469]

@@mstr_anderson It's called "Alesis Realhat", But it's not new anymore.. I bought it more than 6 years ago. I'm sure you can find something better.

[@carpii]

Great job. I love how resourceful you are, plus all the meticulous planning etc Is the kit driven by a module/brain, or hooked up to a computer to generate the actual sounds?

[@ohad469]

carpii Thanks a lot! I had to do some planning before diving into this project :) Yes. The kit is driven by a module: Alesis Trigger IO, which is hooked up to a PC.

[@whoisbhauji]

Ohad Blaier Great work, Ohad - just one Q - are the drum tones stored on the PC or does Alesis allow to store tones to play this kit live if need be? guru prasad

[@ohad469]

Ravi Srinivasan Thanks! This Alesis module only produces Midi notes, so the sounds are stored on the PC.

[@Drew-sc4rk]

wicked!! Howd you manage to link your pressure sensors to the alesis? You wire that yourself?

[@ohad469]

:) You solder the end of the Piezo to a PL guitar cable (1/4"), and then connect it to the Trigger IO.

[@Drew-sc4rk]

Thanks! What is the exact name of the piezo you used? is it velocity sensitive?

[@ohad469]

You're welcome. All piezos are velocity sensitive, unless mentioned otherwise... Here's what it looks like: uk.farnell.com/productimages/standard/en_US/5022022.jpg I used a regular piezo from Ebay, the smallest I could find. There are few sizes you can get, the smaller it is, the less sensitive.

[@RcKDrUmm3R]

Hey man how did you mount the practice pads to the rack?? I was going to mount them to a rack I made using a cymbal mounts but the threads are too small.

[@ohad469]

+Dan T (RcKDrUmm3R) Hey, I drilled holes in the drum rack and used long Threaded rods. One side is connected to the rack with a nut, and the other to the drum. I bought the right thread for the Remo pads.

[@blackship14]

nice build bro :) what drum module are you using?

[@ohad469]

Thank you, Alesis Trigger I/O is the module.

[@SEANFIR]

noticed some ghost triggers on the kick drum… was that something you adjusted out of it?

[@ohad469]

+Sean Sweeney You need a good subwoofer/headphones to hear the bass drum since it is a very low frequency. The song wasn't edited in any way, just a straight record. Also, the bass drum in the kit is a standalone unit (I used an old subwoofer as you can see in the video) so no vibrations from other components can cause ghost triggering.

[@SEANFIR]

i'm listening to this through JBL 4412A studio monitors… they go down to 20hz… was just hearing some ghost triggers on the kick it seemed…

[@ohad469]

+Sean Sweeney It may be the floor tom that's ghost triggeing... I addressed that issue since than. I'll upload a new cover soon, check it out :)

[@craigkopacz2905]

hey. Just found your video on DIY electric kit. Any chance you can give me more info or a separate video on the cymbals? - i want to make E CYMBALS for my kit. cheers

[@ohad469]

Yeah, In what step do you need help?

[@craigkopacz2905]

all of it? i want to make roland cymbals but in full sizes.

[@ohad469]

Ok: First Step: You need to muffle your cymbal. I used double sided tape, and covered the lower part of the whole cymbal. Step Two: stick a PVC sheet (you can see the material in my video) to the double sided tape, that will dampen the cymbal's sound. Step Three: Cut a small circle through the PVC and the double sided tape, and stick a Piezo sensor directly to the cymbal (you can do that step before step one, but I found this way to be easier). connect the Piezo to a 1/4" input (guitar cord output). These are the basics. If you want to do more advanced stuff, you can make 2 circles, one on the edge of the bow, and one on the bell of the cymbal, that way you can create a 2 zoned cymbal (I did it on my ride cymbal but it's not in the video). You can also search around for ways to choke the cymbal. Feel free to ask more questions. I also recommend that you watch the cymbal's part in my video again, now you know the details of the step.

[@craigkopacz2905]

awesome thanks - gives me something to go on. cheers

[@ohad469]

Craig Kopacz Good luck!

[@xailumtiirnako7292]

hey. I was wondering what the pvc sheets do to the cymbals? and did you put them on all the cymbals? I'm looking to building my own kit similar to this.

[@ohad469]

The pvc sheets mute the cymbals. I did put them on all the cymbals.

[@xailumtiirnako7292]

Awesome. Thank you. Also. How much did all this cost?

[@ohad469]

Xailum Tiirnako You're welcome, and about 1000$ including the screen

[@xailumtiirnako7292]

That's quite a bit. Lol. If I ever get the money I will do this. It'll be a fun project. I'll link it to you if I ever do. My favorite diy electronic kit out there

[@ohad469]

Xailum Tiirnako Yeah it's a cool project. You can do it cheaper, just get less cymbals and no screen. Don't forget I wasted money on trial and error... Send me a link when it's done :)

[@xgraphix2075]

Well thought out ... I am not sure if I care for the sound of the base, as to me, it sounds like a speaker ... with all due respect

[@ohad469]

Thanks man, and it's a matter of taste :)

[@timjenkins197]

Idk if someone already asked this, but how loud is the physical kit in the room?

[@ohad469]

Michael Hall Hi, It wasn't asked. The snare and drums make a little noise (you can use fiberglass as a mesh head which will make them silent - also for the bass drum). The cymbals do make noise, But if you play with in-ear headphones you won't hear them. I drum with in ear headphones, and muffler headphones on top for complete silence.

[@123lowp]

YES!!!!!!!

[@nico_poriol]

Are the cymbals chokable? Planning to build one for myself :)

[@ohad469]

I didn't add choke to my setup, but you can find guides on youtube. Good luck with your build!

[@nico_poriol]

Ohad Blaier thanks for replying. Im really inspired because of this build! So adding choke is not just coding? But requires hardware also? I mean another sensor?

[@ohad469]

Yes, It isn't just coding, but there are many ways to do it. There are even kits you can buy, not just DIY stuff.

[@nico_poriol]

Ohad Blaier oh i see. Do you happen to know what kind of sensor/hardware is it that will enable the choking mechanism? You've given me big help and ideas. So thankful for your help

[@ohad469]

You're welcome! And what I know is probably a few years old.. I suggest you search on other videos for choke solutions. I am sure there are clever ideas for that.

[@FranciscoYosores]

how did you do the ride zones?

[@ohad469]

I put 1 sensor on the bow (near the edge) of the cymbal, and 1 sensor on the bell. Than I adjusted the Trigger IO's configurations to help separate the two zones. Hope this helps.

[@FranciscoYosores]

Thank you! Very helpful!

[@ohad469]

You're welcome, Good luck in your project!

[@petardeveric7617]

What program are u runnig it thrue?

[@ohad469]

Superior Drummer, through Cubase.

[@petardeveric7617]

Ohad Blaier thx

[@ohad469]

You're welcome, what kit are you building?

[@petardeveric7617]

Im not haha I just like musical instruments and stuff great job just put in discription what program are u running it thrue ✌

[@ohad469]

:) I have it in the description, I guess you missed it...

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

Hey dude where'd you get that foam from?

[@ohad469]

A friend's workplace. They used the foam to protect shipped items.

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

Oh ok. Thanks. You got lucky! Lol they want like $9 for a piece of foam at hobby lobby and it's kinda soft. Maybe I could look through the dumpsters at car ltos for seat foam.

[@ohad469]

Keep searching, ask people, someone must have some...

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

-thumbsup-

[@akbar2487]

show how to make all pad step by step please

[@ohad469]

What step do you need help with?

[@akbar2487]

step and material to built snare pad. its really amazing

[@ohad469]

Thanks, I'll tell you what you need, but one question: Are you talking about the Snare drum or the Remo pad?

[@simongillbey9875]

Whats the track your drumming to ???

[@ohad469]

Incubus - Drive! :)

[@simongillbey9875]

Thank you Ohad

[@ohad469]

You're welcome, it's a really good song

[@simongillbey9875]

I Play Bass, wanted to see if its available on my Rocksmith custom programme and it is !!!!! along with 30 others , id forgotten about incubus , since i wish you were hear, thanks for re igniting another great band.

[@ohad469]

You're welcome man! Try Incubus - Isadore, it's also a good one.

[@bluestarwars]

גדול! (כשתגמור מדעי המחשב, תגיד למראיינים שתשקיע בעבודה אותה רמה של תכנון וביצוע - ותראה להם את הסרטון. מי מהם שיש לו שכל - יקח אותך ולו על סמך זה בלבד) (מצטער - קשה לי להתגבר על הדוד הפנימי ...)

[@ohad469]

Michael Orr תודה רבה מיכאל! זה הרבה מאוד בזכותך!

[@fidenciogomez2368]

how are you mounting the toms

[@ohad469]

With long screws, connected directly to the drumrack. I used screws with the same thread as the Remo pads. To get that angle, I bent the screws a little at the top.

[@steverodriguez8840]

Wow?

[@ohad469]

Wow

[@nielswil]

How do the pads sound played without sounds.

[@ohad469]

In the video I used Pillow Covers, but since then I have changed the mesh heads to Fiber Glass. It is very cheap, and the pads are completely silent without the sounds.

[@nielswil]

Fiber glass??

[@ohad469]

Yes, Search for fiber glass sheets on google. You can buy them at hardware stores.

[@nielswil]

Sounds interesting but quite hard to buy in the Netherlands. Do you have a video on how you did that, please?

[@ohad469]

It's the best material to use for E-Drums. I am sorry but I didn't record the updates I did to my Kit, but this method is quite common and you can find many videos of it on youtube. Search for:"diy mesh head" and you'll see what I mean.

[@theothertroll]

Best? hardly- but nice effort. Tips: Use a 5mm thick crafts foam right under the practice pads heads; Understand the difference between cushioning and damping.

[@ohad469]

Show me your DIY practice pads, and I'll see what you're talking about. I switched from a cushion (which was the cheapest option back then) to fiberglass sheets. They are as silent as you can get.

[@הראלשמעוני-נ5פ]

מה?! :O איך? כמה?

[@ohad469]

***** הרבה זמן וסבלנות... היו תקלות בדרך חח אבל בסוף הסתדרתי.. ויצא סביבות ה4000 כולל המסך

[@הראלשמעוני-נ5פ]

Ohad Blaier זה חומרים שכולם יכולים לקנות? ולאיזה קונטרול חיברת את הסט?

[@ohad469]

***** הכל אפשר לקנות.. חלק יש כבר בבית, חלק מאיביי, חלק מתל אביב, אבל הכל יש חח וחיברתי את הסט למודול שנקרא: Alesis Trigger IO

[@homeofdiy2023]

I love your work

[@ohad469]

Thanks!