DIY FAST CHEAP ELECTRIC BIKE REVIEW! LUNA CYCLE 1500 WATT BBSHD MID DRIVE E-BIKE BEATS RAD ROVER!

Q&A style review of the fast cheap DIY e-bike that I built in Oct 2017 from a Motobecane plus mountain bike and a 52v Lunacycle 1500w BBSHD mid drive kit. It will blow the wheels off any store bike under $2000 and is a better value than the Rad Rover (which I own). Two Year Update: • My DIY Mid Drive ELECT...
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[@HOBOTECH]

For the electric bike accessories shown in this video visit hobotech.tv/amazon Check out my e-bike series at kzbin.info/aero/PLHEFQDjiZC_fZ-irhJqfFhgnRCXhOW-9v *ALL HELMET COMMENTS WILL BE DELETED!* I was on the bike a whole 5 minutes to film this bit for you guys. I rode 1000's of hours as a kid on these streets without any safety gear. Time to land that helicopter, folks. I'm a grown adult responsible for my own safety.

[@sailingsolar]

Informative? Not saying how much you paid is resl informative in you book, right? Informative for idiots who dont know the obvious information you did give..

[@HOBOTECH]

sailingsolar 1) Try actually watching the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naKwhZqwlrCZf9k 2) You are calling viewers idiots yet you apparently failed second grade grammar. 3) Thanks for watching.

[@HOBOTECH]

amk, yes

[@rickywright583]

This is awesome and what I've been thinking about . Not to be a Copy Cat .... but I would like to Copy your Project . Already met the Guys at BIKES DIRECT in Jacksonville Florida and wasn't sure which Bike I would use until now . Haven't been to your other Videos yet .... Hope you list What and Where to Purchase etc. Thanks !

[@phuctranhong8608]

ebike more. to

[@supernova1976]

What a well spoken gentleman , everything clearly explained , nothing rushed . thank you and congrats on the great build . that bike is a bargain .

[@HOBOTECH]

Thanks for watching and for the great comment.

[@efroe2392]

I used your build as a guide for my own. I am delighted with my Ebike hot-rod! As a disabled person, riding a mountain bike was too strenuous to be enjoyable. That is all over now! It's like suddenly getting bionic legs! I can ride over difficult terrain, up and down hills, and over long distances with the exact same resistance. Maybe not great for endurance but awesome for someone who hasn't been able to enjoy bike riding for a decade or two. Thank you.

[@dougse-bike9770]

Thank you HOBOTECH, this video is where my e-bike journey began. Until I found this video in 2019 I hadn't come across any videos talking about the mid-drive conversion kits in any detail. I had been looking at gas engine conversions because they seemed simpler and there were many in-depth how-to videos on the subject. This video gave me all the info I needed in order to find answers and tutorials.

[@waynedyer3475]

Thank you. Been wanting to build an electric bike. Looking around you tube and on line. You saved me a bunch of brain cells. My head smelled of fire burning. You be safe and thanks again

[@davidmiracle398]

I have a 2019 RadRover fat tire E bike that I love. I live on the Southern California high Mojave Desert and ride the bike over sand trails where it handles beautifully. The bike cost me $1499 which included shipping directly to my house. I'm 82 and this bike is well engineered and is the best and most fun thing I've bought myself in years.

[@cherriemckinstry131]

That is awesome. Im in Pa. And been wanting an ebike. Im 63 and want to get back to riding, and this would help.

[@mikedmann7487]

I really enjoyed this video, i learned a lot. Looking forward to the bike build video. Keep on keeping on!

[@arnoldsmith1165]

Well thought and skillfully executed production. Great overview. My interest is sparked. TY

[@lhendrick1]

That was a great review video and a great machine you have built. Congratulations!

[@martymcmannis9121]

Thanks for the video. You answered all my questions without me asking. Very good video.

[@miroslavkaspar2246]

Great video mr.HOBO. Cheers from Czech Republic. Keep nice videos coming.

[@markrusso9309]

Interesting video, I am new to the e-bike evolution revolution and found your very informative (and easy to understand). Thank you.

[@g.cosper8306]

Dude, I owe you a beer-you have such a great way of explaining things! Still lovin the vids 🤓

[@blubyu1100]

Wow great build. I have a pick up truck w camper shell and love your stealth build. Excellent video thank you

[@highsnburgers4862]

Nice bike you put together. Well thought out and you hit all the sweet spots for an all-rounder.

[@centralcoastcamper9631]

Great review on your self built e bike. I'm trying to learn all I can about the kits out there as well as the safety aspects such as disc brakes and such. I want to build one too.

[@chrisharriman5245]

wow, can't wait for the video on the build...really nice rig

[@wishcloudstudios]

Awesome! I wanted to see that at the RTR, but couldn't make it out because I was ill. I can't wait for the build videos! Thanks!

[@HOBOTECH]

I'll get to work on those soon. I need to plan the next leg of my trip first now that it's warming up.

[@andjesussaid2343]

Great vid, I just recently got my own ebike, its a "Electric City Bike 26" (pedal assist) from Hobby-king, it usually goes for $920 , but I caught it on 1 day sale for $269! Its range is 25 miles & a top speed of almost 20mph, I know, not close to the top of the line, but overall I'm very pleased with it, especially the price I paid.....anyone interested, keep checking back with them, its back to $920, but you never know when they will have it on sale again. I'm watching vids like yours to try & build my wife an e bike now

[@pnoon43]

I put a 1200 watt ebikeling hub motor $239 - 48 volt 20 amp/5 amp charger lifepo4 sunbike - $395 - Diamondback insight 2 with manual disc brakes - $309 - tuffy tire liners $20 - Single wheel bike trailer ebay $99 - Total cost $1062 - South florida not many hills - just bridges. Pro`s light weight bike 26 lbs motor 14 lbs very fast 34 mph estimate 40 to 50 miles per charge. Cons i wish i bought a battery mount like Hobotechs where it mounts on frame water bottle screws. Mine is temp mounted on bike rack with bungie chords Battery weighs 22 lbs. Haven`t hooked up pedal assist yet but that will add miles to charge and get some good exercise - maybe add another 20 - 30 miles depending on the assist level. Came in handy when old car was in shop. Hope to mount bike trailer this week so i can ride to work soon 8 miles all up hill and in the snow heh !!! ps like the twist throtle grip. Need to cover the wire trails but then like Hobotech said you can pay upwards of $4k as my friend did with a trek bike. He top speed is 28 mph and the battery is like 48 volt 10 amps. Thats how the bike company make their money - like a 20 foot boat with a 90 hp motor - goes nowehre fast ! Good luck with your bike hobotech you may need to get a new tooth brush to get the bugs out of your teeth from all the smilling while riding !!! Pat

[@HOBOTECH]

Yep! Those bike companies have a huge markup to pay for warehouses and employees. You can simply DIY or pay a bike shop labor only to build one with your parts. Your setup sounds great for street use. Hub motors are actually better on power since they have no moving parts like the mid drives so you get better "MPG".

[@evanmartz180]

Nice buddy. I took a Santa Cruz superlight and 52.2v Panasonic cells to a hacked BBS02 (1500 w). I have had it to 45. It is terrifying.

[@neilbenoit7042]

Way cool video!very well explained.Ive been looking into ebikes and like the idea of building my own,I like the fact you had it going 36 mph.

[@HB-yq8gy]

Nice build I just finished a Trek 4500 with Bafang 750 W with a 48V-10 Ah battery. I should have gotten the bigger battery but, total cost was under $1000. Fun to ride !

[@robrob31295]

Amazing!! So much technology!! Very talented you are..hugs 🤗❤

[@cdantzer4984]

just ran across your channel,went back watched a couple other vids. like your presentation and reviews. subbed.

[@HOBOTECH]

Welcome aboard!

[@frankdardenmoore5960]

SUPERB VIDEO, VERY WELL DONE. I HAVE WONDERED ABOUT HUB VS MID BIKE DRIVES. EVEN THE GUY AT THE BIKE SHOP WAS ABOUT 25% AS INFORMATIVE AS YOUR VIDEO

[@thekid8245]

I enjoyed that vid way more than the others ( rad n juiced ) I learn more from diy’ers ! Right on 👍

[@EzERiders]

I have been riding a RadWagon for 2 years (10,000 miles+). I am building a BBSHD with a Haro frame soon. This is a great video. Best BBSHD review yet!

[@HOBOTECH]

Thanks! RadWagons are pretty cool. If I didn't ride mostly off road I would have considered one.

[@forex4steadyprofit663]

I am well pleased with my front wheel 750 watt way tooo powerful e-bike 36 volt 15ah great for tootling about on only cost 300 pounds for conversion parts. usefull piece of kit

[@RoadtrekRich]

Hi Tom, Really a well planned, well executed build. If yours is the Porsche mine is the VW Bug. About four years ago, I built a Dahon folding bike with the Bafang Mid Drive. I think at the time I might have had one of the only mid drive folders there was. Fast forward to today, I still have it, still ride it and it hasn't given me a lick of trouble. I have a rack and a bag on the back that opens up to become one regular sized ( brown paper bag size) grocery bag and one thing I use it for is grocery shopping. I actually walk it through the store instead of a grocery cart, throw the stuff in the bag that has one of those reusable grocery bags stuffed in it. Then on to self check out, un-bag, scan, re-bag, pay and off I go. Back at the van, I unload, partially fold up the bike and stow it inside the van. One thing I have done is turn on an inverter, plug in the charger and re-charge the battery on the bike while I drive. While putting a couple hours or more on a trip in the van, I can put a little charge back into the bike battery to use when I arrive and want to explore a new spot. Since my bed goes lengthwise, I just leave the bike set up alongside the bed when I know I'm going to ride it. These Bafang motor kits with the mid drive are really catching on and your build shows how you can have a much better form of transportation than a gas scooter, etc.that is lightweight, easy to carry, get great mileage and requires very little maintenance. For my part I would add this setup give years of dependable service as well. A great tool we get a lot of utility use out of and a lot of fun to build and ride.

[@HOBOTECH]

Hey, Rich! I saw your one video with the bike inside a while back. I could never store mine inside because of the bed (and size/weight), but that's a great idea about taking it shopping instead of using a cart. I also like the idea of charging it off the inverter while driving. I usually run my propane fridge that way on long trips (the 12v switch broke) and adding low amp charge to the bike battery would work. Typically, I charge it off the generator the next day after riding as I don't ride it every day. I agree the bikes are way easier to maintain than their gas counterparts.

[@dsrleb]

Thank you for the information, & no thanks on cleaning the litter box, LOL. Good job on the bike.

[@MrBobswire]

I'm a passionate bike-cyclist going on 75 years old and thinking of getting an E-bike as well. I ride 45-60 miles a week on average on my bikes pretty much year round ( Petaluma, CA) for pleasure,health and errands. Like you I am a DYI and on the fence on getting a pre-built or DIY E-bike and your vid is great food for thought on a well thought out build, thanks.

[@chaunceyhulbert7264]

Just wondering. Do you think that since you've been peddling as long as you have that switching to an ebike would atrophy those muscles that have been peddling so long?

[@weyrunner2838]

OMG! I lost it when that "NIGHT RIDER" music started!

[@brianwilson2654]

Answers a lot of my questions about e bikes, you sure built a rad bike.

[@HOBOTECH]

Thanks. Glad to help!

[@ecvdub07]

Great video, thank you for sharing!

[@yr4353]

good job and happy to see you in Pgh.

[@crackerjack4833]

Next year I will have my eBike completed and will have a video on it after it is finished. It will feature 2 1kW Hub Drive Motors, 2x 48v 15ah Lithium with motorcycle hardcase saddlebags, motorcycle handlebar control console for lights, turn signals, car horns. Top speed of this bike (GPS only) so far is 32mph. However others have said they swore I was doing almost 40mph. The thing I am lacking atm is disc brakes and what I have atm is rim brakes. I think I may get a bike that already has disc brakes so I don't have to do any crazy conversions. So far the total cost for my custom ebike is... $157 each for the hub kits (which come with the controller and throttle) ... $314 total $310 for each of the 15ah Lithium Batteries ... $620 total $60 for the motorcycle hard case saddle bags (for the set) ... $60 total $40 each for High PSI (60psi max) 26" Mountain bike street tires $30 for double set of heavy duty thick walled innertubes $10 for Slime(R) Tire Liners (helps prevent punctures) The horns, motorcycle handlebar control console, lights, turn signals and 7ah 12v SLA for them, plus wiring, heat shrink sleeving, connectors, etc... the little crap mostly ... will probably run about $300 to $400 Gotta mention the bike was given to me for free and I've had it for 4 years now. So in essence, just about $1,500 for an insanely high torque moderate speed 100% throttle controlled Motor-pedal-cycle. Sorry, it isn't a MOPED. LOL, and I hope folks here don't start squealing "PEEWEE HERMAN" cuz this bike looks nothing like that clowns toy cycle. :P Quite frankly, I look like a bona fide bad ass. Sadly though, only my co workers say that. The rest of the folks on the roads here in Florida don't think any bicycle rider has any right to be on the roads and they will make sure to treat you like it. Stay tuned!!!

[@baldvale5418]

great informative video dude, best wishes.

[@dmbfannh]

This video WAS GREAT!!!. Very informative for me amd u can relate lots of the content. I live in Seattle Washington. Last year my sister purchased me a Rad city power bike. I loved it so much I started dojng food delivery with it for Uber Eats and it became my main form of trwnsoortation. in 5 months I put 3500 miles on that bike. Three weeks ago I left it in the yard 15 min before going out because i had to run back into the house for something. I go back out and the bike is gone!!! STOLEN RIGHT OUT OF MY YARD. So a couple weeks ago my brother-in-law tells me that this guy at his work is selling a bike and it's called a Luna cycle which I had never heard of. He said it was a mountain bike with a kit from Luna cycle and I looked it up on the internet and I never even used a mid Drive motor bike before. So anyhow I basically have the same thing you have it's a 1500 watt artist Street surface will do about 9:34 I think. That's about where I'm chickening out anyways but I can't have it in the Top Gear because some reason I got some kind of slipping God knocking banging slipping something going on that I don't know what it is I don't know if it's the chain slipping on the the sprocket on the back or if it has something to do in the something to do with the mid Drive motor clutching with the paddles or something like that it almost feels like my pedals are slamming into a kickstand is I'm peddling and if I'm in that job here but other than

[@HOBOTECH]

Sounds like you need to adjust the play between gears by rotating the adjuster at the shifter. If that doesn't help remove the quick links from the chain and reverse them. I had this same issue in my tallest gear and these corrected it.

[@OhioPrepperOne]

It’s all about philosophy of use, for city riding, Rad Rover is fine and decent quality, for off-road use, you want mid drive period. Nice review.

[@brettfoster6786]

Im looking for a Efat slow for trail riding . any idea. 2k 3k . mid drive? What brand . im in USA. Arizona.TY

[@boostercontrol100]

Great videos and channel dude!!

[@Timejump369]

The knight rider theme with the best awesome build

[@deanoboland]

Great work on video mate greetings from Spain

[@cherriemckinstry131]

Pittsburg! So close but so fsr away.... lol Enjoy your videos. I learned alot from just one bike review

[@MichaelJosephJr934]

Good Job. Thanks for posting

[@JohnvanGurp]

I contemplated making a bike from a kit and parts but now in 2020 there are so very many models on the market I’m just going to buy one ready made.

[@ab_ab_c]

Excellent vid! You made an e-bike vid that actually provided all the answers to the most common questions--well done, Tom! Thanks for sharing!

[@sailingandpaintingtheworld538]

Nice video but there's a different route you can take like I did. I bought a Cannondale prophet lefty bike for $600.00,. I sent off for a tongsheng tsdz 2 mid drive motor for $550.00, then I got a 48volt hailong battery for $250.00. So for under $1500 I got a high spec beautiful mountain ebike that's full suspension for peanuts. It's really rad off road and the motor runs on open source firmware therefore it's programmable and can be made to run like a Bosch motor. Go for it geezas!!

[@ianmangham4570]

I have a 42v 15ah BATTERY on mine, get 15 miles in the winter here in England and I'm 6'2" 240 pounds using a 250w "minimal" geared front hub, bike weighs approx 46 pounds. Best item I've purchased was this kit, and I've bought alot of toys in a HALF CENTURY 😎🙋‍♂️

[@chrisrenek7699]

I think your bike is fantastic,But i do love my rad power bike.Its nothing like yours.But I do like it a lot.You have a wonderful day.

[@danmcdonald726]

Nice, I was curious to see what the HD Kit did, I've got the 750w bafang with a 52v, it tops out around 34mph with the 46t chain ring to a 14t in the rear.

[@garystratton4125]

smart choice on the tires.

[@dougfurr5217]

Old video, but still good. I highly recommend people build their own ebike instead of buying ANY pre-builts. I love the BBSHD, but if 1500 watts is not enough for you, just upgrade the controller and make it 3000watts!!!!! Warning, you will need more/ larger battery packs. But man is it night and day. Theres only 2 ways currently to do this: 1)Grin Phaserunner, and 2) LunaCycles Ludicrous controller. I have tried both ways and recommend the LunaCycles route. VERY simple swap vs the Grin takes some tinkering. The Grin is also a stand alone controller while the Luna one fits exactly where the original one comes off. So it still looks stock, and police will only see a 750w stamped BBSHD motor, but your will have up to 3000w!

[@Stoney989]

So glad you done it in mph than kph. And getting up to 30mph. I'm in the UK so bikes here have to apply to EU (spit) law so its 25kph. Needless to say I upgraded mine, just careful where I thumb the throttle 😁 Great video 🇬🇧🤝🏻🇺🇸

[@forevercomputing]

In the UK so 25kiphs ? 16mph or 15.5mph because 100% metric equivalent. You can go to 350w boost if pedal assisted.

[@stevealdebaran626]

Awesome tutorial video. My build comes from the same dealer. My build is Gravity FX 2.0 2018 from BikesDirect.com.. I do use a 1500W rear hub motor with the 12 Mosfett 3077 controller with the Cycle Analyst. My power is a 52v 15ah. Tires are 26x2.0 Maxxis hookworm! Very fast and about the same price! I have just reached my 1000 miles on the "1500 W Black Lightening" motor! NOT USED OFFROADS! GO ELECTRIC!

[@jonelmorris6785]

Steve Aldebaran what's your top speed?

[@HOBOTECH]

That's crazy awesome fast. Be safe!

[@ginginthing]

This is a very well done video. I like everything about this video except you riding it without a helmet or gloves. If and when you fall down on the paved road at 35 mph for any reason, u will know what I mean.

[@mamawanderlust6000]

Very informative video.

[@georgemerrill4918]

Excellent video thank you

[@JoLe1991]

you need the the MPT7210 MPPT charge controller, with it you can charge any battery with a higher voltage than your solar panel and you can set the terminal charge voltage to any value you want (80, 90 or 100% and any other percentage)

[@rvdavy3288]

I really liked this video I'm looking into electric bike I have disc brakes front and back. The motor part looks difficult. You have $ 3500 in the bike think I can pull off getting what you have. I like how good you demonstrate on here I'll keep in touch thank you from RV Davy.

[@HOBOTECH]

Lunacycle sells a bike tool kit and a bottom bracket tool. With those two items it was a lot easier than I expected to install the motor. Anyone with basic wrenching skill can do it as I'll demo in the upcoming build videos.

[@nicolasmw100]

Engaging Warp Drive, Michael. Great music!

[@ronwasser4852]

Nice build

[@PamelaCurry]

I have a LunaCycles BBS02 on my Diamondback Overdrive 27.5. I've maxed out at 36mph. One got over 1,400 miles on it now. I did have the hanger bend causing the derailleur to literally blow apart. On replacing that I also replaced the chain. After that I had issues skipping teeth and couldn't adjust the higher gears without a horrible noise. I fixed that by replacing the cassette also. Your issue with skipping after replacing the chain might be solved by replacing the cassette.

[@HOBOTECH]

I just had the quick links on backwards. After reversing them the noise went away. However, the new chain ended up being crap. I'm in search of something better.

[@mtnmandeluxe5429]

Good review! Cant take them in wilderness areas nor national park trails. Id like to build one but i cant afford to. But thanks for the imfo.

[@dalesnale]

I respectfully disagree about the Rad Bikes being 'junk'. 2018 batteries are 14AH 48 volts. (they are not overvolted to 52volts to avoid burning the controller and motor over time.) The hub motor has 1 moving part unlike the complex mid drives. No DIY build issues and less wear on the chain (and potential for snapping) Sure it only goes 24mph in off-road mode. But hey a 30mph wipe out on a bike sounds like a trip to the hospital. The Rad 100watt charger will work all day on solar. Anyway I dig your channel and subbed. And yeah there is a lot of junk out there, I won't name. Everybody do your research, but get any EBike and have fun.

[@HOBOTECH]

They did update them in 2018 to be a better value but the bikes themselves are still made on cheap single size heavy frames. Bike review sites generally agree it's a good starter bike for someone not too serious about riding, making it the right bike for a lot of people. It wouldn't have worked for me, and that's why I built my own and decided to show others how to do the same in case they wanted something better. I agree that everyone should get one and go have fun. Thanks for the comment and welcome aboard!

[@dalesnale]

Thanks HT. ( My next bike may be be a mid drive after all )

[@PamelaCurry]

Rad Power uses geared hub motors not direct drive, so there are a few more than ONE moving part! Actually is on par with the mid drive in moving parts.

[@dalesnale]

From the EBR Review of the RadCity 2018 ..."Gearless hub motors are durable but also weigh more, produce some magnetic drag, and aren't as zippy or powerful at low speeds" Perhaps other models do.

[@bFlattheOriginal]

RadRover and RadMini use geared hub motors; RadWagon and RadCity use direct drive motors.

[@darrenmcclung3550]

Great bike. A rack would make it much nicer for carrying things. Topeak makes some great models with removable bags that expand.

[@SmokeyStoner]

750w 20mph. ..sounds like heaven. Here in the UK and Europe it's measley 250w and 15.5mph. Hopefully one day this will be addressed. Great vid by the way.

[@DaRush-The_Soviet_Gamer]

Yep. On the flat I can pedal faster than that. Main reason to geta motor is so it can climb hills for you. If it can't get me up the black mountain in Wales, the purpose of the motor is NONE. What's the point? It's useless in all of Wales and Scotland because mountains.

[@TexasHighDef]

Nice ebike! How is it holding up for you? I am loving my ebike. It has been a game changer for me.

[@RoutyRastus]

So glad you are a cat person - best kind!

[@gursisingh1940]

I built a 2000w hub motor carrera vengeance with a 52v 17.5ah battery for £1400, range is about 70 miles on pedal assist 1 (250-300watts) the price includes all upgrades too like mechanical to hydro brakes, shifter, deraileur and a new deraileur. Tops out at 42 mph on flat....

[@lincolngrayson1013]

sure like to see more of your bike rides, please. I have a day 6 mid drive e-bike. It is a very comfortable road bike, big seat, heavy frame. Right now I am not riding because something is wrong with the magnet and or magnet sensor which effects the operation on my mid-drive. I really like this bike, maybe send you some pictures of it.

[@HOBOTECH]

I have a playlist of bike rides. Enjoy.

[@allenlo1512]

Thank you .... nice video and your cat..... subscribed already.....

[@riverflyswatter]

Good job!

[@harrymonk7566]

Great video! yr super cool man!

[@keyboardslave]

My son has some sort of powered bicycle that uses a gasoline motor (and barely any gas at all). All I know is he rode it 138 miles to come visit me on less than two gallons if I recall correctly...also it's extremely heavy. It took him about 18 hours to ride up and see me, but that includes stops, confusion about directions, or letting it cool now and then. He just pulled a really lightweight bike trailer on the back that is all enclosed. Edited to add that I just remembered he said it had a 2-cycle motor on it. It was super cheap to build/maintain and I like that it isn't dependent on more modern systems which I think would be perfect and more practical in a SHTF situation.

[@HOBOTECH]

Nearly every state in the union classifies gas powered bicycles either as mopeds or motor driven cycles and therefore in most cases you either have to register it (meaning annual tag renewal fees) or you need a motorcycle license to ride it on pubic roads. They are also not legal on most bike trails, or in most National Forest areas for that matter. 2 strokes are annoyingly loud and a great way to have rangers/cops show up at your camp. Yes, 2 stroke kits are a fraction of the price of a decent e-bike but aren't really practical in most cases. As for SHTF I can recharge my bike indefinitely from the sun and ride around in silence without anyone even knowing I'm there.

[@keyboardslave]

You make valid points, and yes the gas mix powered ones can be quite loud, which I also dislike. :) Here in Michigan, it appears the bike can be up to 50cc, no title or plate needed and if registration becomes required then it is only $15 once every 3 years. No need for a special license if a person has a driver license already. I believe if it is over a certain number of cc's then it would be classed as a motorcycle and need those endorsements...but then with that kind of power, a person would likely twist up their frames and rear tire rims I guess. As for where it is not ok to ride them in my state, I haven't looked into that yet, but I suppose a person could just use the pedals and not engage the motor if only a regular bicycle is permitted(?). They've become quite popular and are seen frequently in some counties.

[@firestarter6940]

cute cat and love the view at the end of this video

[@framfull]

The cat, spot on!

[@elcochiloco1456]

I just bought a sonders e bike original for 150$. Thinking about reselling it and making my own.

[@jstanovic]

I am 290 lbs and have a rear hub Bafang 500W motor and it gets me up hills without a problem in pedal assist mode. My 20” fat tire bike will top put at just under 28 mph.

[@HOBOTECH]

I meant without pedaling. You could never go up a hill unassisted with a 500w hub drive.

[@jstanovic]

I have an ebike because I like the exercise of peddling...I have a motorcycle for when I don’t. I acknowledge your comment, however as I originally stated, “gets me up hills without a problem in pedal assist”. Keep up the reviews

[@thomasharvanek2411]

Is that Night Rider music? Tom you must aim that rear light directly at the cars behind you because it's led light angle is very narrow sweep, anything else is very dim. As shown it's aimed at the blacktop

[@claytoncomeaux7653]

This video worth every second of my time. Dude your knowledge of &#¡t is limitless.

[@HOBOTECH]

Appreciate the comment!

[@Sentinel4261]

38mph on my one in the UK 2019 but most of the time I don't need it, but its good to know it's there.

[@HOBOTECH]

38 on an e-bike there will get you put in prison! You're brave. Kidding aside, I heard the laws there on e-bikes are insanely strict.

[@ianmangham4570]

@@HOBOTECH Non existent, I'm in England and blast about all day ,there's no coppers left on the streets, they're all policing rude behaviour on the internet lmbo

[@Kegel_Destroyer]

I have a 2019 Trek Roscoe 8. Thinking about getting this. Trying to do research if it will work.

[@kenjohnson5498]

You could make a pull behind trailer with a charging unit for extra batteries yes slow charging but anything is better then nothing when your out in the bush and need the extra juice.

[@MayhemRv]

Friends have told me to ride a bike to get in shape. This is exactly what I need! 🚴‍♂️

[@HOBOTECH]

The best part is you can pedal as little or as much as you like for exercise.

[@wendyeesue]

I have tested out an E-Bike for peddeling. I must of had the wrong gear , it was a workout fer sure.

[@HOBOTECH]

Sister Wendy, the hub drive bikes can feel like that because they don't use the gears like the mid drive bikes. They help more once you get going.

[@wendyeesue]

Very True, I could have added that to my statement..check this out, kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHrGi5SlgZ2Vjck

[@HOBOTECH]

I hear all the time adding a motor is "cheating". Lest they forget adding all that weight to the bike makes it a lot harder to handle. These guys know where it's at.

[@h20base]

Very nice looking cruiser..You coming to my state so I can ride it.

[@paulbearbradford2498]

great video

[@Japhill75]

I want to commend you on your vids. The info is out of the world .

[@HOBOTECH]

Thank you!

[@RobLaurieFinancialAdviser]

Built one on a Specialized Roll and was a great bike, sold it as it no longer provided any exercise...

[@mikebenoit6648]

I have v breaks but planning on upgrading down the road

[@mikebenoit6648]

I'll have to upgrade at Farrs in Manchester CT

[@munirahmed9204]

Wicked video How much did the total kit cost and how many miles does it do on one charge Thanx

[@Anthrit]

That is cool. You where able to keep up with in town speed limits. I wonder how a speeding ticket would hold up if not a gas powered bike.

[@HOBOTECH]

In AZ, I went to the store on it several times with a 35 mph limit and was able to hold that on level pavement no problem. I hope not to find out if you can get a speeding ticket on a e-bike. I did hear back in CA they were handing them out at parks because the street bikers were doing like 40 in a 20 on ped paths. There is always someone out to ruin it for the rest of us.

[@AsTheWheelsTurn]

great video. Id love to have one of these, out of my budget unfortunately, but as with anything the price tends to go down as the technology is out for longer period of time, ten years from now this will probably be common for people to have .

[@HOBOTECH]

Definitely the wave of the future. I think once lithium technology totally replaces lead acid you'll be able to pick up a nice e-bike at Walmart for under $500.

[@g.cosper8306]

HOBOTECH Ahh,I am dreaming that you are right!

[@randbaldwin]

Gotta aim that tail light at your followers, not your tire! LOL. Just pokin' fun, thanks for the video.

[@mgut17]

i recently bought myself a new bike this last week and it actually cost me around 250 ish USD (2499 Nok = Norwegian krone) really cheap bike and that actually have hydralic brakes, so dosent even matter iif you look for a bike, just look for a bike that have hydraulic brakes

[@rnordquest]

Aren't the chain and the sprockets sized for human output i.e. about 1hp continuously? I think you would get high chain and sprocket wear if you put 2hp on it very often. Chain stretch would start it skipping on the high gear ratios.

[@langchauvin1121]

Very well said.👍

[@honeybadger6127]

I've pushed my controller to 58V (15s charged to ~4V/cell) and I've had no problems

[@johnpublic5572]

A most interesting video. I am currently in the process of building the Atomic Zombie Streetfox, a reverse recumbent bike. Since I made the frame using steel instead of aluminum, it's a bit on the heavy side, but looks like this motor can handle it. The brakes are caliper brakes but I never ride over 20mph anyway. Do you have a breakdown or list of the cost of your battery, motor, and electronics? Thank you for reading.