DIY: Install a 72v 1.5KW controller & 80V battery on a 36V Swagtron (Xiaomi M365/Bird) scooter

[@robertbrawley5048]

I never considered a scooter until I saw your channel. Only considering a electric bike but you are showing me the light . I have to go 10 miles to the rental van Uhaul dealer and a scooter may be just the ticket Small enough to fit in the van easily. I could switch out the batteries once I drive the van back to my house if need be for my return trip on the scooter after dropping of the rental van. Yea, uh hum, yea.

[@metalmafiachris]

Good to see you friend! You inspired me to build my 80v adult tricycle. I'm excited to see your testing.

[@billrimmer5596]

When I c one of your vids, I drop everything to watch. It's not just the entertainment factor, I have a 48 volt fat tire bike and I always look for ways to improve it. My controller is also very small. I will probably get a 52 volt battery and the same controller u purchased. My bike maxes out at 18 mph. It would kill me to c u blow by me with your hair on fire at 25-30 mph on a scooter.

[@vuaeco]

I think your controller probably limits the top speed to be at 18. More likely a new controller would make a big difference.

[@kevhantamarshall7640]

I love your videos you try new things every time I see your videos

[@BoopSnoot]

LOL good thing this can't hit 88mph or you'd be leaving a flame trail and traveling back in time with the way that machine looks! Can't wait to see more! You should sell bicycle conversion kits for use with power tool batteries like this. :)

[@brookerobertson2951]

You got to love the scooter rental places giving us all free parts... If the company is going to continue to let people just dump them by the roadside or at the entrances of shopping centres and shops so people can trip over them then I think they are great candidates for some free parts..

[@dznuttzonyachin7499]

Changes are slowly being made . How about focus on the Customer not doing what they are supposed to like putting it back in designated area. They obviously hire people to go pick them up but you can't be everywhere all the time. They will start to be equipped with locks now an if not put back you will lose your ability to rent. Hardly a reason to turn into a thief and steal product 🙄

[@brookerobertson2951]

@@dznuttzonyachin7499 but think of all the free parts... And the GPS module is put in a real simple place to remove it from.. the company's are just asking for it.. you can even sell most of the parts on eBay an make cash.. it's a win win win.. you just need to look at it as recycling.. 😏

[@dznuttzonyachin7499]

@@brookerobertson2951 you sound poor

[@dznuttzonyachin7499]

@@brookerobertson2951 one too many O's in your first name 😂🤣..... Broke Robertson

[@brookerobertson2951]

@@dznuttzonyachin7499 that a good one I will give you that.. broke.. first time hearing that so you get to win in the comments championship.. lol

[@russellm7530]

Hey alright Vueco! Longtime no see.

[@vuaeco]

This project does take quite some time! :D

[@TheCohesiveGarage]

AWESOME! Very helpful, Thank you!

[@DepthWish]

You're a wizard. Maybe you can get more top speed if you do something with the tires so they don't slip.

[@svendolufsen849]

Larger pnumatic tires aired down should do it. Or switch the front and rear tires would do it. Rear wheel drive is much safer on these scooters for high torque settings

[@saltyshellback]

Next thing you know there will be scooter burnout contests 😄

[@6rak369]

Its more about the bms on the battery and your controller should always match battery voltage. The controller is not meant for 80v as it is 72v. You are correct that is just over 20 amps but the frequency might also be off. To sum it up Start with matching controller voltage and battery, than go under amperage as the bms might be turning off before hand, not likely an issue with frequency but possible. Could possibly be the board in the motor limiting to 10amps or motor windings shorting due to not being built to handle such amps or voltage. Best shot is prob to get a new bms ngl

[@Markko1986]

Excellent stuff here comrade, thank you.

[@jayv2407]

Since you've maxed out the speed now do you think you could make it dual motor? Would be awesome!

[@kevmatt8450]

Could you use the original controller if you upgraded to capacitors to the 100v 1000uf for the big one and the 100v 47uf for the small capacitor?

[@johnhornbeak5735]

Have you tried this?

[@kevmatt8450]

@@johnhornbeak5735 havent needed to, the controller can handle 72 volts fine

[@Markko1986]

​@@kevmatt8450 you are pushing 100V through a 36V controller with no problems?

[@DavesEscooterRepairs]

hi there i have a 48V 60V 72V 84V 2000W Brushless Motor Controller Box 45A for Electric Bike/trycycle/E-Scooter/Dual Mode Hall/ Hallless Sensor and i have a 75 v battery pack (36s 2p ) and a m365 motor 36v and it is cutting out but if i push throtle slowly it does go but after about 5 secs it cuts out again all i have wired is throttle /motor/battery to the controller have i not conected a wire or something any idears what this maybe i was thinking to much power to the motor and thats why it was cutting out but it seems to work ok with yours any suggestions would be helpful thanks.

[@vostro59]

is there any consiquencess might happen when using differnet watts on different voltage .. i mean different voltage and watts on hub .. different voltage on battery and different voltage on controller and mix it together >??

[@tanishqaroravlogs]

I will be waiting for it😀

[@jarrodbeloate660]

You should check out the GL-900 82volt greenworks battery pack

[@vashb6407]

Good tutorial video. Easy and simple. Can you do a jetson bolt pro battery and controller upgrades.

[@billrimmer5596]

Thank u for your fantastic channel and the replies which helped to educate us lay people. What about displays and their interaction with controllers. What display could I use with the controller in the video? Thanks again!!!

[@vuaeco]

The display I use in this scooter is actually a bike computer (speedometer). It is not connected to the controller but rather a separate unit. I made a separate video about it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g36qaox8hq6LqLc

[@fred.nestler814]

I do enjoy your videos! Have you ever considered what would happen if you crashed that little scooter? ( with most things----JERRY-RIGGED too) We would not be getting any future videos. BE FOREWARNED!!

[@vuaeco]

I thought I was invincible? But now that you talk about crash, I'm worried. Maybe I can live stream from a hospital bed? Or if you don't see any more new videos, I probably crash it too hard. :D

[@fred.nestler814]

@@vuaeco I can't tell you how many times I HAVE SCREWED UP using bungee cords to temporarily hold stuff and have it go wrong. Imagine the cord coming off---wrapping around a wheel/spoke and flipping you off @ 30 mph. I have lived through my stupidity---you may not. Good advice from an admirer.

[@vuaeco]

@@fred.nestler814 Thanks Fred. Good advice.

[@EG-pj2rq]

Good job! Keep the videos coming!

[@777fiddlekrazy]

We Love you Good Man!! GOD Bless!

[@laryangel4082]

Thank you brother

[@sorbetingle]

😊🤐😣...honestly u gotta be careful at those speeds with those size wheels, if u hit something on the road u could take a tumble n break yourself

[@vuaeco]

That's why I'm thinking of the next size: 10 inch motor! :D

[@Markko1986]

Also no suspension whatsoever.

[@MonkeyUK.]

U r a mad man but dam bro

[@roand8958]

Hello good video I would like to know this what like wheel These a 500w? Thank you

[@DIYwithBatteries]

Cool 👍

[@serioustroubletrouble4354]

Cam on chu. :)

[@adam3842]

The real lesson is that you were only restricted by the controller.

[@andanh8]

... and motor.

[@tanishqaroravlogs]

Please make a video on custom firmware 🙏 thanks

[@AdamOpheim]

Might try a Kelly KBS-X. 200phase amp 72v controller. Its MUCH smaller and MUCH better than the 72v off brand controller used here. I run mine at 88v. Also ruin 3 120v yard force in P on my mini bike.

[@عمرطيب-ل9ب]

ido the same thing 72 v controller and 80v battery when i run 10km hub motor become very hot and you smell it burn….may be need hub motor upgrade

[@romel_mrkade]

Yow how did u connect the chord to the battery

[@howardlee53]

Have you tried using the controllers that came with those 80 volts batteries came from?

[@vuaeco]

That's a great idea. Only if the 80V tool has variable speed, though.

[@amirulzhr]

What is the front motor rated W

[@lbabacar8653]

Good video u proved my point 1p wasn't enough the voltage sag is too much even the cell are rated 20a that peak with sag without sag it's 2.5ah in your case since the rule is 1c, u could get more higher speed with less vdrops, we got the same problem im on a 20s setup on ninebot max and can't get more than 55kph on road due to 20s3p... But off ground its 80kph... The second motor u showed at the end looks like the rental okai es200 motor if its actually kind of the same u should get crazy speed...

[@McNibbler]

Some guy on reddit suggested I buy a custom controller that puts my dual batteries for my m365 pro in series instead of parallel, which would theoretically supply 84 volts to the motor, which genuinely sounds terrifying. How controllable is the scooter at 30+ mph?

[@Markko1986]

Probably not good. But you dont have to go 30mph, power is more for the uphills.

[@MonkeyUK.]

What apps is the controller

[@maximustitan8171]

Now all you need is adding shocks for the front.

[@djcranium1210]

I've got a 600w 48v scooter that does 30mph. If I get a 1000w controller will it go faster ?

[@recklesshoongarage566]

No, doesn't work that way, if you get a bigger battery such as 60v with a 1200w controller, you would get up to maybe 45 mph top speed and it would be quick.. If you did a 72v upgrade it would hit 60 mph easily.

[@mikedtubey]

Thats Great!

[@happycafe1977]

Can I use 80v greenworks battery for my 63v electric scooter controller?

[@vuaeco]

That might burn your controller. Try a 72V controller instead.

[@highwaltage]

sweet little monster :)

[@o3zman]

At this rate the scooter frame will need to be replaced. Maybe a custom welded scooter build? :)

[@vuaeco]

Yep. Things are getting crowded here. :D

[@tanishqaroravlogs]

Please make a video on speed limit removal on swagger 5 🙏🙏🙏🙏 thanks

[@vuaeco]

The controller on the Swagger 5 is pretty small and weak. It's best just to replace with a better controller altogether.

[@tanishqaroravlogs]

@@vuaeco thanks

[@tanishqaroravlogs]

@@vuaeco ok

[@JoseMartinez-zr4xp]

Shunt modded 36v 500w controller gives very similar results

[@nathantoubia6256]

Hey you inspired me to purchase a 72v controller and double up my batteries to achieve your results. I got the controller 1500w and putting 81.3 volts to it with no success. The only way I can get the controller to do anything is with only one battery to it 40v and the learning wires connected. But no throttle control. Any clue as to the issue or would it be a faulty controller any help appreciated I want my scooter to fly also lol

[@vuaeco]

Did you wire everything correctly? A 72V controller would not likely to work with a 40V battery though. Something is wrong.

[@nathantoubia6256]

@@vuaeco I only used the phase wires and hall sensor wires Color to color minus white from motor hall, and three wires for throttle b,g,r and a switch between main red power and small red. With nothing, I figured faulty throttle, so then I purchased throttle just like yours and the same that's when I separated the batteries and only got it to spin with learning cable

[@nathantoubia6256]

Ended up being a faulty controller. Got a different one running 2 bird 2 batteries on one of the scooters, flies, cruises 38mph all day it's heavy as hell tho but prob good cause rwd. Thx have fun!!

[@Linkhunter]

hey vaueco I got ebike called Livingbike 369 that look eerily similar to your Swagtron EB5 what controller do you recommend I know I need a 36v 350w but which one should I choose I bought it used the guy who previously owned it ripped out the electronics

[@vuaeco]

I think that 36V 350W controller would be perfect for it. Don't get the one shown in the video as it only runs on 48V or higher.

[@Linkhunter]

@@vuaeco I read the service manual the engine rated what I mention also need a new throttle it just sucks it's hard to get new replacement parts

[@vuaeco]

@@Linkhunter If you replace with a universal controller, you can just use any 3-pin throttle.

[@Linkhunter]

@@vuaeco I think I have finally found one I like www.ebay.com/itm/123939003633?hash=item1cdb571cf1:g:2bUAAOSwXetdo~EP I want one with key ignition so people don't mess around with the bike

[@cafe88racer53]

viet rick flare wooo!

[@svendolufsen849]

Is running 48v safe for continuous usage on the original hub motor?

[@SaitoGray]

lmao, no.

[@aski1529]

@@SaitoGray yees it is

[@matatisan]

Looks safe

[@vuaeco]

A nuclear submarine is as safe if you know what you're doing.

[@colinriches1519]

Dude, I'd put that motor on the rear wheel. The tyres will last longer and better acceleration.

[@kevhantamarshall7640]

Basically he built his own electric scooter

[@PlateInStock]

How can the motor handle all that voltage

[@vuaeco]

Watch the entire video and you'll find the answer.

[@sim6699]

Is that standard front motor 300w ?

[@vuaeco]

Yes, it's a Bird scooter motor. I think it's rated at 350W

[@used103]

i have 48v controller with 800w motor it gets 30mph i might get a 60v battery and see what happens

[@gmister24]

Just take the electronics out of the case of the controller and it will fit inside the scooter

[@Markko1986]

Good thinking. But I suppose the controller housing is not that big for nothing.

[@Rocky-sy9zt]

I was scared for you!

[@rosamerlujan5510]

I only got a boring 16mph scooter.

[@marine1718]

Did stil live?

[@vuaeco]

Yes

[@MonkeyUK.]

What is the motor. No way is it 350w no way

[@PollyPolly-ng9el]

Why don't you just increase the motor power aswel and you will get 40mph+

[@xerejuneseve6333]

You can burn your 350W motor can you think?Aaa i can see ont the end of video sorry.

[@Mfatso]

That motor is not happy atall,id suggest just a completely different scooter tbh

[@user-mq8xg5sp9c]

It’s 80x2 not 80x20🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kevincarbajal1220]

That’s awesome