Diy steam turbine and boiler walk around

[@choup-channel]

This is amazing! One thing to add is a cooling tower with water collection so you can run this with water being recycled as a working gas.

[@walker2120]

Instant subscribe. Looking forward to seeing this hooked up and powering something.

[@scottnelson7850]

I would love to see it after you attach a shaft and generator to it! Looks great!

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Thank you, hopefully this weekend I will have time to get it together.

[@goldenbulletdriver]

@@kracticuspotts9686 Did you get any further on this??

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@goldenbulletdriver yes if you go to my pg you can see the next video. Thank you for watching

[@AtomSmasher-l4b]

I'm a Licensed Professional Engineer and nuclear power worker. Aside from the various turbines we have that exhaust to condensers, we have turbines that exhaust to ambient. Feel free to reach out to me, but the use of air directed to the exhaust will not help you. You get nothing from the pumping losses, and I can prove this using thermo charts. But it is a great design. I find myself here because I am curious about getting more electrical output from a stream locomotive. I looked into Terry turbines so we wouldn't have to run a diesel locomotive for head-end power. My question was that turbines from turbos are built for low pressure and high flow. I figured the turbos would have to be multi-stage to utilize the high pressures we have. I'd love to run it off the exhaust steam from the cylinders before it goes to our feedwater heater. Speaking of feedwater heaters, ditch the air cycle and exhaust to a feedwater heater. That will be your best avenue for efficiency improvements.

[@sneaky_krait7271]

I've been thinking about adding such a system to a woodstove for electricity generation. As this is a turbo, it normally is fitted right onto an exhaust using the warm air instead of steam. What are the benefits of steam and does this also apply to a turbocharger used for electricity production like done here?

[@DavePaul1090]

Utilize a VNT style turbo with variable vanes inside of the turbine housing.

[@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE]

Clever set-up. Looking forward to seeing how it performs under load

[@NN1Ckl.]

If you make an exhaust duct for the turbine end(sort of like an afterburner housing), and route the blower air into the duct right after the turbine outlet, you’ll pull a little vacuum on the turbine end, allowing you to take at least somewhat advantage of the Venturi effect(raising speeds and overall output), while also not condensing the steam until right after it exits the turbine impeller, allowing you to extract more work from the steam.(of course, this is “in theory”)

[@RooneyMac]

🤯

[@RooneyMac]

"Lisa!... In this house we respect the laws of thermodynamics!"

[@NN1Ckl.]

@@RooneyMac the point not being to actually create vacuum in the duct, it’ll never do that, but it WILL lower the overall pressure that the exit flow from the turbine has to push against, and that increases efficiency.

[@RooneyMac]

@@NN1Ckl. Hmmm, kinda like how one steam nozzle out through the funnel exhaust of the boiler helps draw air through the firebox? I guess I get that. It was just late at night when I first saw your comment and went Homer Simpson 😅

[@xmysef4920]

That’s really cool! However, I don’t see why routing the airflow from the compressor to the turbine would improve it, it would just cool it prematurely which is just stealing energy and moving the heat away. The best setup is if you can somehow remove the compressor and just have the turbine.

[@Skunk106]

On an actual working steam turbine generator (power plant) there is a condenser on the turbine exhaust. The cooling (provided by the cool compressor air in this case) in the condenser collapses the exhaust gas of the turbine creating a vacuum which pulls the turbine moreso than the steam driving the turbine. This is also why he created a venturi on the turbo outlet. The more quickly you can cool and collapse the exhaust steam, the better and more efficient your turbine performance. I'm no expert, but this was one of the first things I learned about steam and power generation at the power plant I worked at. Ideally, the cool compressed air or better yet cold water would be run over a sealed tube in shell condenser and the condensate would be captured and recycled. A turbine like he's using here wouldn't last very long without being run on pretty pure water even if you could keep the steam/condensate away from the lubricant side. It would ideally all start with clean, purified water kept at a certain PH level and all be kept contained and quite pure throughout the whole recycling process known as the Rankine cycle Under such ideal conditions very little feddwater makeup is required and optimum equipment life cycles are achieved. This is of course only one way to make and use steam but it is the basis of most modern steam powered generation stations. It is almost not worth stepping up the tech with steam unless you are going to go whole hog with it. For me, it's keep it pretty primitive or really step your game up.

[@sneakysquid1529]

You can use the compressor to turbo the fire box. Yes you would use your fuel faster but you'd greatly increase your power potential providing your boiler can handle it

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

I have built stationary steam engines for over 50 years and have found, it's the GENERATOR DESIGN that counts most. The rotor can be turned with almost any style of engine. My engine of choice is a tangential turbine housed in a volute running on two needle-point bearings driving a reduction transmission.

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Are yours bigger than this one I am guessing they are much bigger

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

@kracticuspotts9686 Actually, no. I'm autistic and like to think of myself as an innovator, as opposed to an inventor, making existing designs work better. I use sunlight to run tiny compressors, keeping my 1,000-gallon air receiver full and at pressure (60 psig) nearly all the time. I then build smaller steam engines that dodge the myriad of lubrication problems by adjusting the timing and running on compressed air, but accomplishing the same as a larger engine would do. BTW - I design and build my own engine's. One design uses external pistons and obtains a power stroke of 355°. This guy's design could be improved upon greatly. Like I said, I'm autistic and I think about things differently than most others.

[@highplainshollarhomestead3188]

I have a homestead in KY, and want to build a steam engine generator. Would you be willing to send advice, or possibly have a steam generator you'd like to sell? Thanks.

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

@highplainshollarhomestead3188 Steam is complicated. Seek out a local live steam club for help. I build ONLY for myself. Be advised that to hire a machinist to build you a boiler & engine enough to power a house will likely cost you close to $80,000! I switched from live steam to compressed air probably 30 years ago. Waaaaay simpler.

[@highplainshollarhomestead3188]

@WhatDadIsUpTo I'm an engineer, and diy guy. My grandfather was a steam turbine mechanic. Too bad he is no longer with us. If grandpa could do it, so can I. Thanks for the tip.

[@munawarkarim8026]

I have the same question; why the injection of cool air from the compressor? Can you just drive the generator directly off the turbocharger? Would an automobile alternator be a better choice for a generator? One would probably have to reduce the rpm using a step down pulley arrangement. Your design and success is impressive. Please keep uploading future videos.

[@abuidnsampala]

Yeah, probably a planetary gear reduction system

[@350pauli]

Looks great the noise seems very loud i wonder what this could get in terms of electricity ... also could you use the spent steam to run through a indirect cylinder to heat the house as it condenses back to water 🤔

[@migmagingenieria]

That is looking mega cool!!! Great job. That turbine sound is music to my ears. Reminds me of my old Gsx-R 600. Cheers from Alberta- Canada!!!

[@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529]

I think that's a great idea. Even if you drive a small alternator/generator the electrical power can be stored in a battery bank and used as a charging station through an inverter. A rocket stove would be a perfect addition.

[@kracticuspotts9686]

You should subscribe and look at my rocket stove. Thanks for the comment.

[@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529]

@@kracticuspotts9686 Done.

[@deezzam4672]

WHAT DID YOU SAY?!!! I SAID THATS HOW I POWER MY TV AND ELECTRONICS!!! WHAT!! HOW DO YOU HEAR YOUR TV?!!

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@deezzam4672 it is loud . I don't plan to use this indoors but just to help change a battery bank out in the shop with inverted power running to the house as back up for light and other small things.

[@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529]

@@deezzam4672 If you have land you can put everything in a shed away from the house.

[@nevillecawood3727]

Nice. Perhaps try adding waste heat to that pipe between the intake and exhaust turbine. Perhaps a small radiator that gets heat from the boiler exhaust or even just turbine exhaust. That gives you a mild jet engine effect... Heat insulate the pipe maybe.

[@John-b8d8p]

Kudos sir excellent work & video !

[@johnnyquest1996]

will you be able to make it a closed system and capture the water and return to the boiler? Great video!!

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I could but have moved on to a bigger turbine for more power

[@staym925]

So using a turbo do you have to have a oil line and keep it oiled?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I made a plug on the bottom and welded a 1/2 inch pipe to a plate on the top and filled it with oil.

[@haliax8149]

You've got condensing vapor inside the turbine. Your blades will cavitate until failure unless you find a way to keep the water in the vapor phase. Another option is to use hotter steam.

[@MasterIvo]

that sounds awesome! wonder how it will sound with a tesla turbine

[@LauraSmith-rs5fj]

What kind of power were you able to get out of this after you hooked it up to a crank shaft?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@LauraSmith-rs5fj not much. It was fun but not productive

[@LauraSmith-rs5fj]

@@kracticuspotts9686 We were rooting for you it's a shame it wasn't more productive. We are looking for a way to turn our wood waste into electricity at our saw Mill.

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@LauraSmith-rs5fj look at my other shorts and you can see the bigger one I made. It would easily charge battery packs.

[@draganvidic8177]

Any update on this? Did it make any power once hooked up to a PTO or did it come to a screeching halt? Thanks!

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Yep if you look on my pg in shorts you can see it load tested.

[@vincehoffman179]

Cool, but doesnt it use oil? Isnt the front fitting for oil injrction?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Yes the pipe in the center is full of oil

[@11statamn]

And isn't the oil need to be under pressure to form the floating bearing. I'd love to see the difference with and without the cold air. Thank you for your efforts

[@twinkbidlake1126]

one step away from a steam reactor from the world books series

[@richardsandwell2285]

So why did your neighbours leave lol? This is totally brilliant I love it, I would be looking at ways it could power my house and ways to make it less noisy, sound proofing maybe.

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Check out my next generation it is much quieter and produces more power with less steam

[@1961kickboxer]

Steam turbines are very steam hungry that boilers large enough though nice

[@Iowa599]

I think you're going to need some type of reduction gearing to spin any (normal) generator, or alternator. Maybe it could spin some kind of permanet magnet motor as a generator, with appropriate circuitry to make the output usefull. My point is, that thing sounds like it's spinning too fast to do anything with, almost too fast for the turbo to live for long!

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I did connect it to a pm generator and it works, but I have moved on to a different type of steam generator if you check out my channel you will see some updates. Thanks for commenting

[@Iowa599]

Did you spin the turbo too fast (& get video!)?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@Iowa599 I did I think the video is called load test on my channel

[@nathanhood6500]

Where did you get the black stand up tank and system?!

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I built it. If you go back on my shorts you can see how I made it. Thanks for watching

[@fredwupkensoppel8949]

The high pitch is a good thing - low-pitched noises are hard to dampen (you need heavy material, and lots of it). High-pitched noise can be dampened by layers of soft material (old mattresses, maybe?), which should allow this unit to be somewhat neighbour-friendly if set up in a dampened shed.

[@DominicFrenette-gi3cn]

smart setup. I've been looking into diy steam electricity generator myself, seems a turbine is the better option over pistons. Loud as fuck though! but so are every other generators ever ig lol

[@blueprintgamer6108]

couldnt u run the cold side into ur steam generator to incourage more heat

[@tannerworm]

How much watts would this produce?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@tannerworm not sure

[@heitor479]

i'd do like this in order to prevent energy loss (the steam still has a lot of energy when you let it escape in this arrangement) and cycle the water back (water needs way less energy to be compressed back into the boiler than steam does): High-pressure steam from the boiler enters the high-pressure turbine (HP), generating work. Intermediate-pressure steam exits the HP turbine and enters the low-pressure turbine (LP), generating additional work. Low-pressure steam from the LP turbine is condensed into water, which the feedwater pump pressurizes and returns to the boiler

[@heitor479]

Ps.: you'd need to invert the blades on the LP turbine in order to make it spin in the same direction

[@torretacosmica]

oh boy this is awesome i want to do exactly the same! Do you think more "nozzles" will be necessary when there is load in the circuit? I want to do something profitable for power outages, will it be efficient enough? In my field I have firewood in abundance

[@jonv.6213]

So you have made a Turbine Powered Steam Jet Air Ejector?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

If you watch later videos you will see I added a generator so it produces electric.

[@TheFlaminFire888]

@@kracticuspotts9686I’m not sure why but I can’t seem to see any of the videos with the generator on your channel

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@TheFlaminFire888 kzbin.infoWCrGTSeuR20?si=mxxsJqLRaXJnYRcs

[@krissutikno2136]

How many power power output?

[@shibbling]

i love eveything about this video hahahahaha. subscribed.

[@hondafo50]

Is there any way to recover the steam, condense it, and recycle it?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I am sure you could

[@长城一号]

你好我认为可以将排出的废气从锅炉的烟筒喷出这将使燃烧效率更高

[@kracticuspotts9686]

You are correct. I plan to do this once I get it all permanently set up. Thanks for commenting

[@MotleyR]

Need a generator and also try to figure out a way to condense that vapor!😂

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Check out my other videos. I moved to a bigger turbine to produce more power.

[@oldhorse4171]

OK, what number of beer u on?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@oldhorse4171 I don't drink.

[@taylorpilato7896]

You would have to run a gear box that's gonna over spin a generator

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Check out my other videos with the generator on and working

[@Vaixernova312]

is there an update on this project? I have the need for something like this

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@Vaixernova312 I moved to a bigger turbine. If you go to my pg and look at shorts you can find the latest. Thank you

[@jimmddaniel]

My curiosity is how to refill the boiler with water so It can run continuously

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I have a 12 volt sprayer pump that I use.

[@jimmddaniel]

And that can overcome the pressure in the boiler

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@jimmddaniel yep it is rated for 120 PSI works great. I do have a check valve on it to keep the heat off of it though

[@DACoutBack]

I'm not sure that it will have the torque to turn a generator ?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

Just put a new video up it is working with the generator

[@jameswalker8900]

It will have plenty of torque with the right gear reduction

[@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529]

The way I see it, a small generator/alternator can feed a battery bank which can then supply an inverter.

[@markusmocke7371]

You could also use the water for consumption.

[@JusticeAlways]

Put a load on it (generator)....and watch it slow down slower than a granny using 2 walking canes crossing a street in downtown Mayberry.

[@kracticuspotts9686]

You can see it with a load on it in another short

[@JusticeAlways]

@@kracticuspotts9686 👍

[@aliskilled6194]

I think it compressed air must flow to burner.

[@paradiselost9946]

odd... the cold air whilst it is feeding something back, its also making the steam condense... all the heat of the steam, instead of converting into velocity, is going into heating air. big waste of energy. i doubt thats a delaval nozzle, either. jacket the boiler. throw the cold air around the boiler, use your otherwise wasted heat in heating air. bleed some off for forced draught... feed the hot air back into the exhaust side. video somewhere of a turbo running as a turbine on just a heat exchanger, external combustion hot air engine... pretty neat. where as this? not sure exactly what you are trying to achieve... yes, its obvious. but youre doing it all backwards.

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I am in Ohio. Mostly trying to use the free wood I have to make heat for a shop but also charge a battery bank. The steam piston engine I built made some power but I was hoping the turbo would make more. It definitely uses less steam.

[@paradiselost9946]

​@@kracticuspotts9686 you give it a go, but i advise finding out more on the actual design of... every part. sadly theres no information about steam anymore. gotta get hold of the old books. rather than try and charge batteries, focus on charging HEAT. the storage of the energy but as an easily repaired, fixed, upgraded system... youre on the right path? consider, a tank of salt, chimney flue through it. say you have 250kg of salt, you can show exactly how much fuel will heat it from 100C to 200C, etc... the performance of your fireplace. the colder the flue the better but it will never be colder than the material its heating. throwing all your heat up the chimney is also pointless. theres a midway point. how long it will sit there and stay hot... the performance of the insulation. storage. insulation is easy. a single length of copper pipe coiled up... known surface area, and for a given volume of water in a given time... flow rate, and the temperature rise gives how many watts per CM2 you are getting transferred... now you can say things like... "the 250kg of salt at 300C will release 35KW of energy in cooling down to 200C, and i can heat 27L of water from 20C to 150C with that energy in a two hour period" (random figures!, other than that the 150C will give approx 45psi?) see where im heading? you do have to apply some maths, and when you start breaking things down really simple like that, it sort of makes sense... otherwise its random and undirected tinkering that invariably ends in disappointment? its not overly complicated, just remember theres losses at each stage and you need each stage to work... reliably. SAFELY! dont mess with boiling water under pressure! at which point... go back to the piston engine. a standard genset only needs to be modified so its spinning at 3000/3600 rpm and you got yourself mains power on demand with no stinking electronics to blow up!

[@Jupiter-rs4zl]

Or you could remove the compressor and get better results

[@ardennielsen3761]

that would be a high voltage AC_DC generator I would think, would need a step down transformer to bring it down to the 110-220 volt range. some small 10 amp 60hz AC_DC motors make 24 volts at 3750rpm... so that 50krpm is 10 times that but the watts a motor is listed for would but that rpm at 320 volt 0.75amp @ 800hz AC... they need to be run thru a rectifier into DC, then into another modulator to get the 60-75hz 120-240volt ac... it's best to just use the turbo as a furnace blower, get the air speed fast enough that the burning propane doesn't travel back up into the intake port, 2-cycle muffler chamber with a catalytic converter... steam heat exchanger on the exhaust of the turbo. scored an old 8.5kw generator for $35 the other day, just had to rip off the broken 400cc engine and convert the shaft on the motor to be a straight shaft not a crank shaft... nonsense... 🦧

[@Lifeisaquicktrip]

Genius 😎

[@长城一号]

其实我认为这种涡轮增压器利用蒸汽的效率不是最高的、最高的应该是特斯拉涡轮

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I agree but building it is a challenge for me. 😂

[@teaster333]

Any updates on your project's progress?

[@kracticuspotts9686]

I did make a bigger stronger one if you check out my shorts

[@teaster333]

I'll look now.😁

[@brianransom16]

I think you need to be using dry steam.

[@RichRacc]

“Ready for take off”

[@johnfairhurst290]

Most generators have a choice between 110 volt and 240 volt I did this with compressed air hence I am F-AIR GENERATOR TO ELECTRICITY BUT I GIVE MY INVENTION FOR FREE

[@s.h7124]

Part 2 ?

[@Juan-oy3fo]

Orc freon closed loop

[@aliskilled6194]

Air from compressor enter to turbine such have no function. Air from compressor must enter to combustion burner

[@JamesMackie-y3f]

It will more than likely explode

[@kracticuspotts9686]

@@JamesMackie-y3f i guess if both of the pressure relief valves don't work and if the 100 psi rated seals on all of the boiler valves don't fail. It could explode.

[@AhmadSolikul-rd2rk]

Noselnya ya minimal 3

[@jeffholden7942]

I did something similar much better I use a GAST 2AM-FCC-1 Air Motor more direct control pressure from exhaust side turns 24v alt don’t try generator to much waste on your steam working on adding a 12v alternator to steam from exhaust side before returning to condinser

[@bussi7859]

You really have no clue