DJI FPV vs. Analog Latency & Range Flight Test

[@gtadude24245]

Is this still the preproduction ones or did you get retail production?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I have never had a pre-production DJI unit. I purchased my unit at retail on release day.

[@Narrowboathands_]

You do so much for fpv from noobs like me trying to get started,to advanced pilots. Dji should really have gifted you a set for review

[@emilianozapatta5978]

took out my 7 " today with the DJI installed. so ...for all those saying they will wait because it will get better smaller cheaper …..sure it will ! That's LIFE ! but when is it "good enough" ? when is the range far enough ?? etc etc etc I am retired and fly FPV EVERY DAY and I want every morsel of beautiful video experience NOW !!!! I am not waiting for "someday" ...I purchased extra AirModule/cameras and I will slowly convert over / build a small quiver of HD Kwads. I have been dreaming of converting a Mavic Pro to acro capability and fly out 30 minutes ...with return to home capability. we are close ! oh so close ...these are great times to be into FPV !!!!!!!

[@beratsbuilds]

Have fun man!

[@dimyata]

Yes.. return to home is great if add to fpv drone..

[@ugpfpv361]

Wish I could afford to do it now AND get frostbite of it ends up being better and cheaper, but being in the process of rebuilding/upgrading my cnc big time I'll have to wait and only pick one. Glad your having a great time and yes I'm jealous...;)

[@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS]

Good for you!!! Do you like the dji system overall?

[@alexczyz1475]

You're not the only person that's thought of a mavic pro with the agility of an acro fpv quad!! Even if it dropped those 28 minute flight times down to 12 mins to compensate for the extra performance.. Would still be a huge leap!

[@jfh667]

"I dont have RSSI !!!!!!" "Its Crossfire, it'll be fine" Also, you know what doesnt interfere with Crossfire? TrueD-X 2.4 Ghz.

[@rcrdps8144]

"I can see the power lines" ,..... yep. That's something I noticed quickly with mine. It's not so much what you can see up close. It's how clear everything is far out. Funny story: When my mom got her first set of glasses, she exclaimed to her mom, "There's lines between the poles!"

[@SimRacer101]

I’m so relieved. That was EXACTLY the same as my experience. JB: “It isn’t as good at analog down this road I never fly anyway.” But EVERYWHERE else it’s like flying with a freaking GoPro and half my review was say WOW. But that is just what it’s like. I’m glad you tried them on the same quad at the same time. I thought about it but just figured it would blast each other so I built the one that as you mentioned probably made someone die inside. We see you fly all the time in the same spot. That is what most of us do. And if you fly and it looks good with analog will look amazing with this.

[@DroneMesh]

I saw the emotion behind your experience and Its making me want to go buy it.. If I pull the trigger I'm using your links. Looking forward for your future tests on it.

[@SueMyChin]

Drone Mesh same same

[@ueigerchaves5726]

Same here 2

[@jdogflipper7997]

Me too, I think I’m goin to buy it

[@ueigerchaves5726]

@@jdogflipper7997 i will not buy because is too expensive for me unfortunatly. But it seems to be very good.

[@jdogflipper7997]

ueiger CHAVES well I don’t think I would throw cash on that any day, but I saved up some money to buy the new Orqa goggles, but then these came out, so I think I’ll just throw that money on these instead

[@NETopham]

Great video. I think you nailed my gut feeling @13:25, nobody has years of experience flying a digital system with variable latency, whereas all the reviewers have had years to lean how to fly through the analogue limitations.

[@HalfChrome]

This might be some of your best work. Your testing is fantastic and your honesty is refreshing. I love the monologue at the end. I’m with you this is changing the hobby in a great way. Keep up the awesome work.

[@Bol193]

I like this “you gonna learn smth today” Best whishes from Russia!!!!

[@twigfpv3667]

You're totally right. After putting about 40 packs through mine, I'm not wanting to fly analog nearly as much as I want to fly the DJI system!

[@ddegn]

I was about to suggest you post a video but I was pleasantly surprised to see you already had. Thanks for doing so.

[@kwboost]

Same here.

[@mavichavoc8723]

do you ever feel held back by the 'higher' latency of the DJI Digital FPV? Do you feel like the DJI Controller holds you back at all? I heard the sticks feel loose.

[@MrElectrick55]

Bought mine on release day as well. I have no regrets! I’m up in NH (similar countryside) and the HD truly is like flying again for the first time. I actually like how we have access to the latency and mbps on the DJI system. If I see the latency jump I just know to rope in any quick movements I might make.

[@ddegn]

I'm tempted to buy one. If you get a chance (and you want to) maybe you could post some video from your system?

[@air-headedaviator1805]

I think your review truly hit the topic right in the gut. The ability to have real time, fair weather hd is incredibly up there, game changing! But there are practical limitations to ones full adoption of it *in certain niches* . And again, the changing latency can be a critical crutch in high proximity, tight areas where any change is fatal to the kwad. That being said, imagine this on a flying wing! Or high altitude cruiser!

[@radioflyer87]

I agree with you on having to trying them out. Drew came home to Detroit and let me try it out. Flying fpv in Hd is crazy i could see everything in such detail . I love it! It's Progress ! Thanks for the Review !

[@ls1chevy2]

I just activated my DJI unit.. in the survey I went ahead and mentioned you as the influencer

[@MaxBeamer]

why is everyone judging the dji system by its weakest point.. the latency.. just use it how you are already use analog (basically right next to you) and BOOM.. it’s 10x better.. the added range (at the cost of latency) is just a bonus for people flying long range or whatever. At its core it’s almost identical to our analog systems except High Def and even faster than most analog cam/vtx setups.. is it worth the pricetag? That depends..

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Watch the test carefully. The analog system and the DJI system have similar maximum range, but the analog system maintains low latency to the edge of range, while the DJI system starts to falter at perhaps 75%. In addition, the DJI system's changing latency can catch the pilot out and cause a crash if it happens in a very technical location. On the flip-side, the DJI system is absolutely glorious when flying in HD, and it is really like seeing FPV for the first time again.

[@MaxBeamer]

Joshua Bardwell yeh I noticed in your test that was the case but you live in the boonies where analog prosper lol DJI’s anti interference characteristics didn’t get a chance to shine! Also My point was If you use it for normal close-medium range freestyle (like how we use analog most of the time) there won’t be a noticeable change in latency.. sounds like a lot of positives to me!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I agree 100%. For flying around my house like I usually do, there is literally no down-side to its performance.

[@protonus]

YAY I feel like you're finally starting to understand my viewpoint on FPV and analog quads, and it makes me feel like i'm not alone, lol. I've been flying a Phantom 4 for medium distance cruising/exploring with the Goggles RE (that I love, even though you didn't) - and flying in HD FPV with full 2 axis head tracking - being able to look around with the goggles and see in any direction you point your head, is so surreal, you start to forget you're flying R/C ! Same thing when I fly my airplanes and wings with Occusync Air. To go from that experience, to flying a Tiny Whoop with a 25mW VTW in analog is... jarring! It feels ... antiquated. Limited. Until I start flying my Tiny Whoop through dining room chairs and things like that. Then I remember the feeling of being miniature. And it's OK again. But to fly an analog 5"? Well, the 5" felt like it had neither of those aspects. This new system could get me interested in flying 5" again. Too bad I can't use my Goggles RE with it and save a ton of money...

[@philcal]

I fitted DJI FPV to my Source One and took it out to the local track. The frequencies don't match regular FPV so I flew between races. It's not clear to me which raceband frequencies impact which DJI frequencies. Unlike analogue where you get ghosts and interference, if someone plugs in on an overlapping or nearby frequency you get a complete video freeze, and lose control because the controller is on the same 5.8GHz video frequency. In one case my quad spun inverted into the ground at full power unrelated to control inputs, and the disarm took a second or two to respond. That loss of control could be really dangerous, not to mention digging unnecessary holes into the ground. None of the above is unexpected after reading about the system, and I absolutely LOVE the quality of the video. My experience did however confirm for me that the DJI system is not yet practical near a normal race track. Even if compatible frequencies can be worked out, it might be worth sticking with crossfire for the controller, so you can push through a second or two of bad video without the drone going mental, and you can disarm it if it does. I am totally happy with the system. The video quality is truly amazing and really helped my flying, and I'll be saving that for freestyle until the frequency overlap problems are resolved. This is new technology and DJI are pushing regular updates, so this amazing system is only going to get better. For racing though I'll stick with my Crossfire and Unify VTXs.

[@deant6627]

Definitely my favorite & go to channel for FPV, i really appreciate the live Q&A sessions & especially all the helpful videos your channel offers. It shows that your passionate and genuinely care about your audience and subscribers. love the content you create mate. 👍👍

[@BiecherBender]

i wonder whats the performance on 25mW. As far as i know, nobody tested it so far

[@FAQUERETERMAX]

They say it's pretty bad, worse than a 25mW analog

[@SuperSilvi1990]

There are some reviews and the 25mW is bad. DJI Is supposed to fix it in an update.

[@rcrdps8144]

I forget what analog 25mw would do, but I accidentally made my first runs with the DJI on 25mw,...… it sucked. You can see those results on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWXo2yEmrymgM0 Versus you never see a hesitation/fast-forward on my videos after that.

[@kwboost]

FAQUERETERMAX I’m not sure of other test. But my dji system is definitely getting further with cleaner video on 25mw than my analog racers on 25mw.

[@genivos]

@@kwboost yeah the thing is... with analogue in the EU I can still fly 200mw or more if I want. Mostly I'm flying at 200mw. The DJI system won't let me unlock to higher rates. So basically it's useless when flying freestyle. Not sure how the FatShark system will deal with that but if it is not locked or able to unlock then that might be a better option at the end. Depending on how it performs of course. Right now I'm waiting to see more results and till the FS is released officially. Not buying a DJI set.

[@alessiosem2238]

Can't wait for a comparison: DJI FPV System VS FATSHARK Byte Frost System!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Step one: receive Byte Frost from Fat Shark :-)

[@alessiosem2238]

@@JoshuaBardwell I know I know. I'll wait. ;)

[@dkieng]

Josh, You are 120% correct on the addiction of flying FPV with this HD goggles and I'm 200% agreed with you that. I have two of the DJI Air units on my 5-inch quad now and let me tell you. I just don't want to put on my Fatshark with Rapidfire any more. That's is a big difference on my part that to just want to fly with HD goggles because like you said I can see every tiny object very clearly when I fly. That what makes me want to fly HD more. U da man, Josh!!

[@MrVlodato]

its a really hard comparison. because even though you can go farther on analog i rather go half the distance maybe even 25% of the difference in HD. To me i would be fine having an analog rig and an HD rig. Your not going to drop your gear anyway since you need it for whoops and micros. Why worry about whats better when you can just have both. Its like choosing between a 5" and a micro, why not just both. If you can only afford one i think you should still go analog especially for new pilots who tend to have heavy crashes that could potentially damage the HD system that we dont know about yet.

[@HeathNielsen]

Joshua this is the Equivalent to the first iPhone. Flip phones at the time we’re better in many ways. Nokia blackberry Motorola they all said the same thing too many negatives no I don’t want it. All three are gone. I think the key is the emotional feeling of HD and it will just get better.

[@licensetodrive9930]

When other companies weigh in on the HD FPV scene it'll be like Apple vs Android, DJI vs everyone else, so bring on the other future HD systems because I'm happy with my Android phone as it has features the iPhone doesn't, like a 10,300mAh battery (I charge it at most twice a week). nearly 300gb storage (64gb internal, 256gb micro SD), and structural strength good enough to smash walnuts and bang nails into wood, with the screen...

[@knarftrakiul3881]

iPhones still suck lol

[@honkhonk8009]

True. I cant wait untill it becomes cheap. I was surprised getting into the hobby that people were still using analog systems in 2020.

[@specific_pseudonym]

I love this review. You covered the issues that you actively experienced using it, and slowed down to demonstrate it. After watching five other review videos, you were the only person who gave me the insight to know that this system will work for me in the conditions I'm actually going to use it in :)

[@mavichavoc8723]

That was a really good convo. would love to see an updated talk. i heard they ironed out the change in latency on the DJI.

[@aomway773]

This is really a great product. I tested it the day before yesterday, and the image effect is really good. The image is stable within 200 meters.But there's a problem. The fan doesn't seem to start on its own. There's fog.The heat is still very hot.

[@michaelphillips-nxs]

You did great! no confusion, HD dji, it has its place, and its time. Thanks for all your work!

[@thomase5943]

latency needs to be fixed imo. it's a deal-breaker for me if variance is to big

[@mavichavoc8723]

have there been any updates for this since then?

[@TheVFXAssault]

Mavic Havoc I wonder too. I now they updated a lot of things

[@ridestolenbmx100]

Imagine walking down the road and all of a sudden a drone passes you going down the road like it’s just out for its daily walk 😂😂. If that happened to me before I got into quads I would be flabbergasted lmao

[@alextkd2003]

I hope Fatshark don't give up, for now Welcome DJI. Finally a digital system, so long time waiting for this. Digital revolution start at 1990 come on......The next semester will be pretty interesting I think (competition!!! :D )

[@Omega70]

I keep checking fatsharks page still waiting for them to release... 😔😔

[@sanpol4399]

We can see clearly in your video Joshua :-) DJI digital system for racing drones is a point of change in the hobby. I guess very soon everybody will race using digital.

[@hateeternalmaver]

10:27 Your neighbour looked a bit intimidated... ;D Hope you didn't get in trouble, I was under the impression your neighbours should know by now what's going on. (because of the loud things popping up over your trees pretty frequently... xD)

[@MrStevegibb]

looked like he was just walking down the road to me.

[@Charlie_Waffles]

also was like... what is this guy thinking? walking down the street when suddenly a drone flies by 😂 i‘d be like wtf 😨😂😂

[@hateeternalmaver]

@@Charlie_Waffles Well, we're living in "the future" now, people need to get accustomed to encounter flying robots and stuff... ;) 🤷 ;)

[@chrissofpv3017]

@@hateeternalmaver ...NOT if you're British!..they don't like anything that makes a noise,disturbs the (THEIR)..peace.😉 😂

[@QuadsMods]

Pixelation and frame dropping vs. Increasing static. Frame dropping is not good at all.

[@noname-wo9yy]

Yeah it seems you get more feedback with anolog.

[@honkhonk8009]

idk about you but I would so much rather have pixelation instead of static.

[@cloudchaser9271]

Looks so good. Also I'm jealous of your property and surroundings. Beautiful country

[@steadywhoop]

Thanks for video, very useful. I watched many videos of test about DJI FPV and I'm suprised that no one tried to change with other LHCP antennas....For sure, it should affect latency with some patch antennas. It will be useful to try it and know the result, I guess.

[@gregoryruiz8682]

This is such a useful video for someone uncertain about what they're getting into, thank you.

[@gregoryruiz8682]

also being that it's been two years I'm wondering if this has gotten better with the dji system or if you think it's about the same

[@theromanempire9236]

Great to have a completely unbiased review, not calling anyone out, but a lot of the other people that got review units seemed to not focus on the downsides very much and kind of sounded like dji fanboys. I might have missed it, but none of the other reviews ive watched touched very much or not at all on the fact that the latency got funky at long range

[@Hakken1]

I really enjoyed this video. The laid back, thinking out loud, Joshua Bardwell was very insightful. Thank you for doing this test and thank you for all your help through the years!

[@ErronKebabb]

That internal conflict monolog with the 5 seconds latency flux bit. That really gave me a good idea off the feeling of flying the digital system vs analog! Thank you !

[@tonyh6438]

I’m just glad it’s finally here it can only get better.

[@BOTGRINDER]

personally that pixilated blur would bug the crap out of me, id rather have analog static. great review joshua! looked like you had a good time!

[@eparg1]

At the worst blur it is still clearer than a pristine analog signal. With this system you can actually see further than analog. It gives you a much higher level of confidence when flying. Have you had a chance to fly it yet?

[@MrGantzFan]

I'd love to see this on a plane where you see how far you can go at a reasonably high altitude vs. following the terrain and compared against a decent analog system.

[@larson175]

Mr. Bardwel we need a better and most valid range test please :) !

[@Rcschim]

first few seconds in the vid and i already know why this video will be awesome: the sparks in your eyes. when you find something to spark your curiosity, what better cause could there be for a video? great, excited to watch on now ;)

[@adroc9841]

Can you test the goggles with a clearview to see how well it works? Im interested in buying the DJI system but want to make sure I can fly my quads that don't have the air unit in them with the DJI goggles. thx

[@lukes317]

That is so amazing. Now I just gotta wait 10 years for it to come down to my price range.

[@JosephDawson]

I think the most important point is the one he made about not going back to SD. Once you have had a 60'' HD TV who wants to go back to a 24'' SD TV? As far as lag this is an issue but only when at extream ranges that depends on how often you fly out far. For some people who do lots of long-range stuff, this will be a show stopper. But for people who spend much of the time within 500m, it will not be an issue.

[@splatkittyfpv26]

Another great and insightful look at a new product. Thanks Joshua! I look at it this way, as good as the gen 1 looks, imagine what gen 2 or even 3 will perform like. I'll hold out for the later gens.

[@maxmax-xx7nw]

Gen V2 - one step back :D

[@teezee4881]

Please use Pal for the same test. Ntsc is horroble because the whole picture collapses all the time, while Pal just gets more and more noisy. Compare and tell everyone please.

[@fpv-droneracing3077]

Nice video👍. In europe i can’t see this working. 25mW has hardly any range. You get breakups already after 300ft. Nice system and a Nice experience but for europe???

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The range at 25 mW is significantly reduced, and the value-proposition against analog is much less compelling in my opinion.

[@fpv-droneracing3077]

Joshua Bardwell i agree😉.

[@peterjohansson1328]

Watch this. There is still hope kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWfZhGpmn7dppck&feature=share

[@DoRC]

Very pretty. I'll wait till Gen 2.

[@JerryCalverley]

Thanks for the information. I'm looking forward to the next video in this system.

[@markpfeifer1402]

This is what I wanted to see. Great test! Next time, get some altitude and go a mile out over those hills!

[@menofglory]

I'm glad DJI came out with this Hd fpv system. It will push Fatshark to do some great!! I'm not a DJI fan cause it's a closed system. But competition is good and we all win in the end "consumers".

[@ranudar5666]

Thank you very much. Could you strap your two systems to a bicycle and try your side by side comparison again? Stingerswarm told about screen freezes and dropped frames. That might be a better way to visualize it. Or maybe go to a complex bando and try to fly the same line several times on both systems? Anyways thanks again and keep your good work up. I like the ambiguity, I think it adds credibility to your opinion.

[@erichbernhardt9244]

Hey josh been a fan for a while. I have to say thanks. Just for the honest opinion. Love the honesty in your vids, and will of course be waiting for more. Again m8 thanks.

[@cotees]

Its interesting to think about that the look of the location you are flying could cause video quality to change. Fly around a solid colored room vs flying through a crazy graffiti-ed bando. Different Bit rates are needed. Assuming it uses normal HD compression stuff.

[@sallerc]

Don't think they do compression actually, it would reduce latency quite a bit... Also at 11MBit/s you would get a much better picture quality than JB got @ 9:52 if it was compressed. At least with something like mpeg4/h.264, they possibly compress each frame (like MJPEG).

[@jdd53]

It’s an exciting time in the hobby. Thanks for the test!

[@paparannu9184]

Review from you is always reliable, thanks you JB.

[@CRBenham20]

Just remember... this is dji version 1. First release and it’s already comparable to some of the best analog systems that have been in the field for years. Give it some time and some development and within 2 years these systems will be able to compete with or even outperform current analog systems all while giving you the insane high definition experience. It seems like when you keep this system within its reasonable limits it still performs amazingly well. It’s only when you really push it that you get into trouble and that will improve quickly with time

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Really, this is at least version 2. The OcuSync system came before it.

[@andrecoutoesilva8485]

Josh, you are the man 😅🤙🏻💪🏼💪🏼 love your videos , learn a lot, laugh a lot 😂 that said, thanks for all your time and work, it’s much appreciated 🙏

[@bob6168able]

I believe the image quality is most important.. thus the DJI digital is the best. I don’t mind flying at open places or at higher altitude and get a cinamatic high quality image, thus of much important to me. Thanks for the video.

[@lukes317]

Back again with a problem. When I change my vtx power to anything above 25 mw, I Lose my video feed and I can't find it on any channels. Anyone know why?

[@christianprogrammer9131]

Glad the orqas are on their way . Happy DJI has made a significant contribution to the industry, but we can wait until there's more development and progress.. my two cents ..

[@sputniksam]

Thank you, Joshua, for a great breakdown and a very honest appraisal. I do believe this system might be successful in the USA but here in Europe it will be a very good expensive novelty. By this I mean the EU version will be hard limited to 25milliwatt, even for those of us with an exemption to run higher power. It maybe possible to bypass this restriction using a VPN when connected to the DJI Assistant but its an app expensive maybe. If you get the opportunity to do a test of the DJI system on 25milliwatts it will be of great benefit for those of us in the EU to see the real, or lack of, performance. Regards Nidge.

[@steveyg777]

as someone jsut getting into the whole fpv drone field i am actually shocked at the total lack of range with both systems to be honest! these goggles cost a fortune and thats how far they get you! What the!?

[@jasonjahnkeinla]

HD!!!!!! YAHOO!!! THIS IS WHY I WAS WAITING TO GET IN TO FPV.

[@WINTERACTIVITY]

Well done!

[@Perceivedshift]

The DJI system got a lot of hate on stinger's channel, even I left a little skeptical. (Lots of blah, blah, X,Y,Z was paid by DJI ty Stinger!) However I was looking forward to your no BS review of the system to be sure, the DJI system looks fantastic. I think there are some situations where analog may have an edge in freestyle flying. However 99% of the time the extra clarity with hardly any breakup would vastly increase your confidence level.

[@MariomasterNSMBHD]

I wonder how bad it is in EU mode. Either way, whenever I might get it a VPN activation is probably required to make it non trash here.

[@leandroebner1405]

I think that's also a big problem to keep in mind. The same goes for there drones. They are so smart and adjust the output power based on location. Its hard too fool the system. The problem here: In Europe, for example Germany it is only allowed to fly on 25mW on 5GHZ. I think some people can't imagine such a limitation. You can fly on 2,4GHZ but the Antennas are bigger and this band is entirely filled with trash. So you will get propably better range on 5GHZ on the same power. But all Pilots I know are flying on way higher output powers. Understandable cuz 25mW is a biglimitation. So you simply buy a more powerful VTX and shh, nobody cares. But with DJI. Imagine you only get it working on 25mW. The range wouldn't be impressive. Maybe 100m with obsticales. So thats a big problem...

[@MariomasterNSMBHD]

Leandro Ebner Yeah I am from Germany as well and ofc I would never *cough* use more than 25 mW. But the DJI FPV system is actually easy to fool. It has no GPS and fetches the location when you register it. A VPN at that stage easily fools it. You can also reregister it. That has to be possible because one should be able to travel with the system.

[@driesinthemountains1964]

@@leandroebner1405 hmm 2.4 video gives me good range

[@leandroebner1405]

@@driesinthemountains1964 yeah but now try it on 25mW. Then you'll see ;)

[@JosephDawson]

A very simple step with a text file you place on the SD card to make the EU version switch to FCC. Video on how to do that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2HIYaB4a6p4r7s

[@KrissKwaddFPV]

I think this & Stingy's last video on this system combined provide the best summary for those who have not experienced it yet. I'm sitting on the fence for a while. Want to see what Fat Shark bring to the table, then I'll probably wait a year or so & wait for the tech to mature as it is still early days & to be honest, analogue works fine for what I currently do. One things for certain, we're in some exciting times of development & innovation for FPV. Its been fairly stagnent with pretty much fake hype & small but not hugely significant developments the past 3 years.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I think Stingy's video was really a worst-case scenario. I have personally never seen the latency go over 60 ms, even when pushing to 1 bar of coverage and 3 Mbps data rate.

[@KrissKwaddFPV]

@@JoshuaBardwell agreed, worst case scenario hence why I said combined 🙂 Keep up the great work mate 👍

[@MysteryD]

I gotta say, the footage looks fucking fantastic when the signal is strong. The detail in the trees and clouds is phenomenal.

[@tinorosenkranz7822]

Hello maybe somebody can help me I used two T- Motor F55A PRO II both aren't work. First all was perfect and then my copter crashed because one output fails to work and one of three wire is getting very hot. I have a video from the problem.

[@goaway4702]

That picture even impressed my wife. Not enough to let me buy it.... but that’s a step in the right direction lol

[@jimo3129]

This is the first time I think I saw the real down to earth Jos. Well done

[@peppebck]

Probably need a release 2 to make the decision to send the analog fpv system to the history but the step hahead is huge. I can understand your emotion because if I wear contact lenses I see a different world. As soon as possible I wanna fly HD. Thanks Joshua.

[@jagababa]

Such a beautiful area you live in!

[@schmiedrocket]

Good review. But one thing I don’t understand is why no reviewers mention that as you change the latency setting on the goggles, this picture quality changes. With low power mode on you get about 60ms of latency and the picture is amazing. But if you turn low power off and get 28ms latency the picture quality goes down drastically

[@sqb3832]

Greetings from Mexico and I am one of those who like the best possible image but if I agree that if you start using these dji and then you will not want to use the traditional ones since the difference in image but ... it will not be good wait for future corrections in some of the problems that arise and especially reduction of the size of the vtx so to speak. Greetings and excellent video.

[@odyss160]

Problem number one. Not everyone can even find another pilot without having to drive 3++ hours to "try out" something new like this. Secondly your great at getting people to wanna instantly pull out their credit cards without hesitation lol. Your great at selling a product. Super hard to just "try them" don't wanna buy til I try

[@austinbru]

Crazy that you are the first person to put both systems onto a quad. This was the first thing that occurred to me, and I was like - alright I guess we gotta wait for Joshua cause I know he's gonna do it proper. Edit: Oh... LOL

[@zoltangyarmati7698]

Hi Joshua, I wondering about how the reliability of the digital vs analog system is. I have a dji camera drone and very seldom (one a month) it produces complete connection loss even on short distance (100 meters). On camera drone this is no issue because until the image signal comes back I just let it hover. For fpv this is something you can’t simply do. Do you know of this is already addressed for digital dji fpv?

[@himarkalvin]

Does the digital system still have the same laws as analog? Specifically, do you need to have a HAM license in the U.S. to legally fly?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The DJI system is Part 15 certified which means you do NOT need a ham license to use it legally. Most people flying FPV don't have a ham license anyway, but if you actually care about the law, the DJI system has that going for it.

[@himarkalvin]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for the response. Is that the case for any digital fpv system such as the upcoming fatshark one?

[@mavichavoc8723]

do you ever feel held back by the 'higher' latency of the DJI Digital FPV? Do you feel like the DJI Controller holds you back at all? I heard the sticks feel loose.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I don't fly with the DJI controller but it's a good controller and I don't think the sticks feel bad. The latency of the DJI system can be felt if you fly back to back with a very low latency analog system. But you know what else is different with DJI? Your ability to see where you're going. And that goes a long way to making up the difference in latency.

[@protonus]

Please test the FOV with them in 4:3 vs 16:9. I get that 16:9 is cropped but I feel like i'd personally prefer the immersion of widescreen to a slightly increased vertical FOV, depending on how bad it is.

[@EjLover]

Is it still same on V2 system on DJI? And How about if we mount an anolog receiver unit on DJI v2? Is it also cause delay on analog video? I'm stuck in between buying a HDO2 and DJI v2 with analog unit, and I'm not sure how much video delay I'll have on DJI setup.

[@michaelklages4367]

been waiting on this review this system looks good but im going to wait for more systems to come out. Thanks for a straight up review again

[@TheMadmacs]

i think i'm completely sold on this, by the time i have the spare cash maybe there will be some kind ofground station that just rocks the world, you have to bear in mind i use an eagle micro and ev800d's, and i'm already extremely distracted by how beautiful it all looks, slow proxy with the eagle in the woods is just a mystical experience, if i get the dji set up......

[@cristianofraga6545]

Your videos are the best,

[@craigwolstenholme2166]

Hi josh so will the system fit in a 5” quad as with poor hand function i used to hate break up on my quad which I couldn’t get passed my confident level so that’s why I bought a mavic pro n goggles so would you say it would be beneficial to get it so I’m more comfortable with my other quad and sell my fat sharks taranis so it’s more easier for me to tune as I only fly on my own now??

[@softsmoken]

It's 2019... About time. Would be nice if everyone else stepped up their game a little bit, seems inevitable. Then again there's been higher end video systems available.. we will see.

[@lakitufpv528]

Great video! It’s a nice comparison to have. This new system is pretty exciting, gonna be keeping an eye on it!

[@-meganeura]

This DJI FPV system is better suited to a fixed wing, I'm really considering buying it for long flights with my bixler.

[@Honeypot-x9s]

For fixed wing get the DJI Occusync video system you can port video and controls over the link it probably also little less expensive. Occusync has slightly more delay than this system (which is fine for fixed wing) but massively more range because able to change channels on the fly seamlessly to avoid interference and supports higher quality live video. Downside being u can’t use these googles and it isn’t as complete of a system. I terms of range this system is only rated for about 2 miles in clear open air, maybe able to get little more. But occusync the rated range is easily beatable the biggest limitation I run into is battery. I taken my mavic pro out 4.1 miles and back on a near suicide run, the entire time crossing open water until last mile on the run out.. and had 4/5 bars signal even orbiting the water tower which is also a cell tower.

[@davisbaldwin7257]

Hi just had a question about something I just plugged in batteries to a parallel charge board and when i plugged the second battery in the parallel board started smoking. I don't understand what happened. Does anyone know how to fix this

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Some possible causes include: Excess voltage difference between packs. Plugging in the plug backwards. Plugging in the balance plug off-by-one pin from where it's supposed to go.

[@davisbaldwin7257]

@@JoshuaBardwell thanks so much for the help I will keep all those things in mind when trying again

[@joecarnes9174]

The ratchet analogy is perfect and I think what you said about how you'll feel emotionally is a good point. Thanks I learned something today 😉

[@manueltobies105]

Thanks Joshua for the detailed video 👍was the best video so far for knowing more bout this system and if it's really a good choice to buy if I got the money or just wasted time

[@contouraerials]

Joshua! Why does my Bat Voltage and RSSI freeze in my OSD when I arm my qwad? Running an F7 StablePro FC...

[@MadRC]

Hay JB, I notice you had Focus mode off, have you done the same test with it on to see how it pushes the bitrate to the centre, this test is ideal for this feature.

[@NicolasGontran]

Hi joshua, I've done this mod and as soon as i get away from the quad and start loosing video feed, i got a black screen with DJI logo

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Later firmware holds signal longer. So update firmware to the one ending in 0608 if you haven't.

[@NicolasGontran]

Hi thanks for the reply, I'm lost ,so far I'm on latest software and root googles with wtfos, and put avin packages and now no more dji reboot screen when loosing signal, but video is black and white, seem that im on PAL, and in wtfos CLI can get it to work

[@5zero7RC]

I don't know if DJI would do this or not, but I feel like they could come up with a lot more settings to allow a pilot to adjust how they want the signal to degrade. I know they have some already, but like a super advanced secret menu for crazy people or something :) They could potentially allow a pilot to lock the latency at say 35ms and let the video get really bad or allow others to set the system to have high latency but the picture almost never degrades. Maybe a black and white mode if that uses less bandwidth? Anyway, curious to see what they do with firmware updates in the future.