The yearling trotting filly, DL Master, hooks-up to the breaking cart for the first time and shows some attitude.
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@blondemare110 жыл бұрын
Let out the overcheck 6" and you would've avoided most of the unnecessary stress put on this sensitive filly. You can't throw multiple things to a horse in the same day and expect any different than what she did. She felt trapped, horses are claustrophobic by nature....
@wandadiamond6128 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@SajidKhan-xr9vk Жыл бұрын
ख़
@prinsharrienadirah2293 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@dianamini458910 жыл бұрын
Stupid of the year award !!! That isn't spirit, that's the horse hating all of it !!
@watchgoose10 жыл бұрын
broke many young racehorses to drive, have ya? she's just full of herself and after all, it's her first time hitched (after long lining work). She's just figuring it all out.
@kelsiebeaulieu522710 жыл бұрын
***** Really? Cause all the horses i've trained to harness never had to "figure it out" because I properly prepared them. This mare was completely unprepared and confused. The dumb ass owners are lucky she didnt slip on the concrete and break a leg!
@havanah198812 жыл бұрын
I have backed and trained many babies with many personalities and have never had any act like this the first time under saddle or in a cart. 'She' was put in a situation she was not mentally or physically ready for.
@biddiemutter3481 Жыл бұрын
I believe that the horse is exhibiting pain. Not as because of what or how she's been asked to do, but some other problem.
@wandadiamond6128 Жыл бұрын
All of the junk on her head and in her mouth and having the bitting rig to tight and taking away her freedom of movement of her head and putting her in a situation where she could slip on the pavement and fall spells a disaster waiting to happen. Nothing like demanding a baby to perform as an adult horse. She was definitely being rushed.
@ljones2868 Жыл бұрын
I agree Havanna. The filly was mentally overloaded. And what an obvious ly bad environment to start a colt in.
@rebeccaarnold21814 ай бұрын
The check is too tight for this horse
@annaraab8853 Жыл бұрын
50+years with American Saddlebreds. We never started a horse like this. Never in the open, always in a round pen or working aisle. Started by lunging, then lunging with all driving tack, then training shafts. Adding only a piece of equipment at a time. Every horse is different.
@marthapackard8649 Жыл бұрын
I was terrified watching it. The woman on the long line was causing such stress and danger. Yikes!
@MsEventer2812 жыл бұрын
I'm fully aware that dragging a cart is less damaging on a horse's joints than being ridden. But this horse is a YEARLING! she's a baby and her joints shall suffer due to this early work
@aurora103ful12 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a horse broke to drive this way, if she had been long lining in an overcheck she would be used to it. Also, on asphalt, are you crazy, it's a wonder she didn't hurt all of them.
@stephanmenzel9457 Жыл бұрын
If you as driver have helpers like this, you don't need enemies.
@anitabowie5974 Жыл бұрын
The poor horse is stressed out, he's trying to tell them something.
@MsEventer2812 жыл бұрын
I am thoroughly aware of what a yearling is. Idc if she turns two in a week-she is still too young to be pulling a cart. If she was a late two yo, then working her lightly in harness would be fine. Teaching her to drive as a yearling is too stressful on her joints. and the lack of protective boots is still worrisome.
@bfornaro12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment. I too, have started horses and the goal is to to initiate them without 'compliant'. I hate to ponder the future of this baby- Amish Torture or the Slaughterhouse?
9 жыл бұрын
Traurig, traurig... da fehlen einem echt die Worte
@pjcarson3183 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how a horse will have issues and people will completely ignore it, never looking at their equipment or adjusting anything and allowing this horse to keep telling them without anybody listening..
@Mickelina8111 жыл бұрын
whenever we did this when I was working with young race horses we'd be TWO people holding lead lines, one on each side just to be extra safe. AND we'd wear helmets. ;)
@blitziee11 жыл бұрын
My horse gets nuts too if there are two people pulling the reins. LOL
@oliveparker6049 жыл бұрын
something is bothering her head. Tongue over the bit? She doesn't seem prepared enough for this step - and I agree, too young.
@Staz199811 жыл бұрын
So in agreement. The risk to the horse here is too great.
@Crittergirl8112 жыл бұрын
okay people, just have to say it isn't only trotters that put yearlings in the harness. there are horses of all breeds that are put in a light harness as a yearling because it teaches them about the bridle and how the reins work and gets them used to some confinement without the potential damage to growing joints. Done is short sessions, this is very benefical for the horse because it makes the transitions to riding is a few years alot easier,
@squirttle9212 жыл бұрын
And if you look carefully, the grassed off area that they later work on is quite close to exit of the facility. And the gate is open, leading to a busy road! If the filly had truly flipped out...
@riccardo7853 Жыл бұрын
You could see directly that she did'nt like The overchek
@1shaneboy11 жыл бұрын
Some people just have to do things the hard way. Horses choose thier owners eventually by giving back what they get...
@SavaahaLightfoot9 жыл бұрын
I don't see attitude, I see fear and even more so, confusion. Two people telling her to do things at once. I gasped and thought she was going to fall when she slipped. I'm not a computer(armchair) trainer and I know nothing of harness racing but her body language is screaming something is wrong. Attitude means spunk, fiestiness and orneriness,this youngster is displaying none of that.
@wincrestnubians439510 жыл бұрын
What she doesn't like is the overcheck rein.
@chikinmommy11 жыл бұрын
the bearing rein doesnt allow natural range of motion in the neck, for those who dont know
@havanah198812 жыл бұрын
It is more the long term effects it will have on the horses developing body. It is like asking a child to become a weightlifter, you may make them seem strong enough at the time but the repercussions can be devastating.
@fancigal12 жыл бұрын
wowie, that filly does not appreciate that woman.
@HopeCreekConnemara Жыл бұрын
I consider that not ready to start yet. Needs a lot more ground driving.
@FMNelly12 жыл бұрын
The head check was perfectly fine and not too high. The horse was used to that being done and having the cart hooked up as well. From what I saw, what the horse DIDN'T like, was that stupid lead rope connected, either the chain over the nose, or hooked at the halter. That is what irritated her. I do agree, they should not have done this on asphalt.
@michealodonovan9512 жыл бұрын
Thank u someone with since finally
@andrewdekovitch7144 Жыл бұрын
Blind leading the Blind
@sevkrause97211 жыл бұрын
wie alt ist die stute?
@janinehiggins1507 Жыл бұрын
Sorry if the harness is fitting properly .there's no way I'd drive a horse who rears.🇬🇧🇬🇧
@prontodelfuego12 жыл бұрын
le cheval se défend en bouche violemment du début à la fin: heureusement que la pouliche et jeune est de nature calme!
@LuckyBonita112 жыл бұрын
poor little Baby!
@lmtrainshorses4650 Жыл бұрын
Where are they now?
@yahamagirl16012 жыл бұрын
ok i can just tell by the way the horses tail is shoved between his but that he isnt ready.
@nicholast9616 Жыл бұрын
We break yearlings every year and they where the check in a pen for 3-4 days then they go behind our towing rig for a few, then with the cart behind for a few then off the towing rig with no problems!
@backwards64511 жыл бұрын
I agree. side note: ick.....spitting on camera. ick......now there's some class
@caitlynharbidge3056 Жыл бұрын
Trigger stacking at its finest jfc
@3horsediva9 жыл бұрын
You did not do enough work with the overcheck before moving her onto the cart. A little looser couple of notches and she would have been more comfortable and less resistant with the upward pull of the overcheck.
@rainathompson520510 жыл бұрын
U should wait for a few more years until u can do this! Beautiful horse though!
@StuckAtTheStables12 жыл бұрын
ever think WHY he's shaking his head?
@emmab200411 жыл бұрын
Thank u
@sasorispuppet41211 жыл бұрын
A short lead stresses a horse more, they feel trapped and like they can't move. Long is best with a scared or stressed out horse.
@yahamagirl16012 жыл бұрын
tht horse needs something i like to call boot camp
@tanjexlovex12 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, but i still think its to young, we are training our horses for the big world when they are 2 yours old, they first grow up, with other foals, when they are three we start riding, so this is why i think its to early..
@RockEatandSleep12 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Synexin12 жыл бұрын
@bfornaro Good for you. Like I said, not all horses take to training without complaint, especially when they are as young as yearlings - and many of these yearlings from large breeding farms aren't handled more than it takes to do their feet and vet work, at least until it's time to sell or break them to race. These are generally not super-socialized babies to begin with. Yeah, you're going to get complaints.
@PartnershipEq12 жыл бұрын
My bad, your exact words were " It is clearly bad handling that is the main reason this horse is reacting like this" so I think my paraphrasing was fair, even though I misused the quotes.
@thomasfaltejsek12 жыл бұрын
Well deserved, too.
@ScrapingAwayTheSkin12 жыл бұрын
Danke
@benharding8424 Жыл бұрын
Let the fella sit on the side
@Synexin12 жыл бұрын
@xUppetup This is a standardbred racehorse.. They race at two years old. To be in shape and trained to race at two, they need to be started as yearlings.
@MyRedBoys112 жыл бұрын
just to clear this up for you. they call this a yearling, but it was born early in the year, and this would be the fall. this yearling is nearly 2.
@katrinab599010 жыл бұрын
I would recommend lounging your horse before you hook it up to the cart. That's why she was prancing. Also loosen her over check about 2-3 holes. The next time. Trust me i would know i drive horses.
@bayleigh339812 жыл бұрын
I probably wouldn't have hooked my horse for the first time on pavement. Just a number of things that could go wrong with that alone.
@michealodonovan9512 жыл бұрын
Well there is a quick hitch system one pull down on each side to detach it.
@michealodonovan9512 жыл бұрын
Right fair play to the trainer hope u win a few races in time. To train a standerdbred horse u start at 1 as if u don't they are so big/strong u end up broken urself. They start by mouthing the horse ( putting bit in mouth) then training harness with false reins at a permanent position. This gets the horse used of it. Then a few weeks of long reining( walking behind the horse no cart) and finally a few days with the cart. The winkers on the bridle make the horse concentrate and stop it from spo
@Jax80029 жыл бұрын
Very cool- nice job Guys!
@torynilsson991511 жыл бұрын
nice horse
@frankstanley542810 жыл бұрын
All over the UK I see horses left in their stall for 23 hours a day without contact (animal or human) it's the most common form of cruelty. How would those horses like the stimulation and exercise this filly has got. Yes ok she's a yearling but she has not been put under any strain she couldn't cope with.
@Saartje0512 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that´s a few, the rest still ends up on Fido´s dinner plate.
@michealodonovan9512 жыл бұрын
It's the most common for standerdbreds
@michealodonovan9512 жыл бұрын
Helmets are the persons choice. And u can't have a kicking brace on the horse when walking. Thats why there is a kick bar on the cart
@griffinartandairbrushing31749 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking she wants the "blinders" off. Horses normally see a panoramic view. I wonder if there would have been a difference without them?
@Quepali12 жыл бұрын
The development going on in a horse when they are a yearling like this one can be compared to what's going on with a teenager, which is much earlier with this breed than non-racing breeds. I agree on putting shoes on a horse at that age is not good for the horse, but it will not make the horse lame. Just because the horse is learning things, doesn't mean that the horse is doing this ALL DAY. Maybe an hour a day, and playing with it's friends the rest of the day. That is not harmful in any way.
@horsesgivemewings12 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie, i don't know anything about driving but it doesnt seem right to break a horse to drive as a yearling?
@XxSodano12 жыл бұрын
I do agree, one maby is a little young, but they don't race at one, they are just broken and lightly trained, at two tho, they are equivalent to human 14-16 year olds, who would already be playing sports, kinda of a cheesey comparison, but it makes sense. And at one, these horses are literally bred, to do one thing, race, it runs in there mind in body, and going fast is one of the only things they know how to do. At birth there ready to race, Foals on breeding farms usually play race.
@thekleeblaettchen10 жыл бұрын
well-educated, diligent and healthy (riding) horses.
@biddiemutter3481 Жыл бұрын
Something is causing distress. I'm not blaming anyone, but doubt the horse is healthy
@Quepali12 жыл бұрын
You think that taking a yearling from it's friends an hour a day, even if it is for cuddling or just taking care of the horse, is harmful to the horse?
@ItsMeTatjana2110 жыл бұрын
i don't know but if i read some of the comments ... but some of the people don't know anything about TROTTERS most of the people who train them start young but when the horse do not work like they will some of them stop for like a year and start over ... so go read before you be rude to those people
@Quepali12 жыл бұрын
A racehorse is bred, fed and trained (The bigger the load of the training the bigger the harm) to be ready to race at the age of two-three. It is not animalabuse to start a racehorse at the age of two if it is ready for the race. A horse not ready to race will not think it is fun, and you end up with a racehorse that's not as good as it could have been. The first races for a racehorse is therefore very important.
@ReinedJoy12 жыл бұрын
Dude, get the chain off the lead rope. Anyone else noticed that every time the handler pulled, the horse reacted to the handler with the lead rope?
@ShearerTheLegend912 жыл бұрын
my tip is always lunge th horse before u take thm out , it gets th daftness out of them
@Crittergirl8112 жыл бұрын
while that is great for a pleasure horse, this is trotting horse (a racer). Their mind set needs to be different, pressure to perform is going to be part of her life. Also who is to say this yearling didn't get the correct intoduction to the bridle and such, she has probably been ground driven many times before this considering how patient her trainers were and she did very well with this.
@JagMan620111 жыл бұрын
Had she had the overcheck on before? She really doesn't seem to care about the cart, just that she can't get her head down. Glad to see her work out of it though without injuring herself.
@JustAnotherEquestrianCCJ10 жыл бұрын
this isnt harsh or anything so thats good BUT ITS ONLY A FREAKING YEARLING!?
@watchgoose10 жыл бұрын
That would be a long yearling, not a baby just turning one. 18months or more is more like it. If they are to race at two, training kinda has to start before that....
@JustAnotherEquestrianCCJ10 жыл бұрын
Yea i have now learnt more into the racing bisness as helped a farrier for a few days and hoping to become a farrier, so i learnt more, but thanks it just seems a bit mean but i guess its not like they actually being ridden .
@akitaakita211 жыл бұрын
With all the head tossing you wonder did they pull the wolf teeth before they put a bit in her mouth and a check rein on her?
@Beltjitters211 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a really good clip. Should she be checked up a little higher with the check rein?
@angelina879811 жыл бұрын
The fights but only against ! -.-
@crazyboy155able12 жыл бұрын
this is stupid i mean i have no words for this video. that horse is so scared it might just have a heart attack.
@SpottedLeafy11 жыл бұрын
Look. to be honest i don't like any form of horse racing for a multitude of reasons but these trainers are not doing anything wrong, they are being calm and patient with a horse that is getting used to something new.
@ScrapingAwayTheSkin12 жыл бұрын
A yearlings bones aren't fully developed yet, is the point that's trying to be made. Also a 12 year old child is fully aware of what is going on, a yearling is not.
@durhamdan112 жыл бұрын
looks to me there doin a good job
@Quepali12 жыл бұрын
Draging a cart like this is so much other than riding, and I would really hope many people here would understand that. I could drag this cart with that man in it without problems. And as long as you have a person in the cart, the cart isn't putting any weight on the horse's back. Ususally, at least here in Norway, young horses like this is among other horses at the same age the rest of the day when they are not training, maybe even also at night.
@MsEventer2812 жыл бұрын
I worked at a barn that rescued OTTBs fresh off the track for several years and have worked with jockeys and exercise riders.I know how the racing world works quite well. and trotting a 3 yo over a 2 ft cross rail is less damaging on their joints and tendons than galloping full out.And if the horse gets a pole between its legs or is jumped too hard then "serious damage to their legs" can result, regardless of age. Need I list the plethora of injuries young race horses commonly endure?
@ifthecapfits112 жыл бұрын
Ive been successfully training horses for 36 years & although i agree with the bit in your comment about self proclaimed experts i totally disagree with your claim that these horses are ready for breaking at 1. No horse is mature enough mentally or physically to with stand the stress in the longterm, hence why a high percentage of these horses lives are cut short. Lets face it a civilized society doesnt expect a child of 8 to do the same physical job of a 20 year old
@havanah198812 жыл бұрын
"A trotter (OTTB) will always be worse in the joint tanken the age in consideration because the trotter starts races years earlier than a jumper" Exactly why trotters should be left until later, we need to consider the horses future quality of life before we get selfish and make them do what we want!!
@michealodonovan9511 жыл бұрын
The horse has been mouthed properly and treated well for fuck sake there not locked up 24/7 they get pasture time and more than likely light alloy shoes nor heavy iron
@kimmyj2911 жыл бұрын
For one, they are stabled at a race track some trainers do not have a farm with grassy fields or dirt to break them on. That maybe the only place they can break her. Two, they have rules when stabled at a track. Three, Standards have a less break downs then Thoroughbreds and they get broke to the saddle very young too. I know some very good trainers and I know very bad. They did good with that filly. They should have had a second person on the other side of her to break her properly.
@carmelitarides12 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering is there a way to immediately detach the cart from the horse? Because if he took off with the cart he could get hurt and also destroy the cart. :/
@EmmaWold11 жыл бұрын
Attitude? Neh, more unsure. And the girl leading isn't really paying attention. But this IS a lot better horse handeling then I've seen in a couple of years (don't ask me where I've been :P). The guy in the cart is calm, and except the girl with the line they are all doing very slow movements. My oppinion: Use another person for the leading, but a lighter man in the cart for a more gentile start, and go away from traffic...
@LukimonD.11 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is better the horse goes forward than stand and do some stupid stuff. When we did that we had a second older horse on the side and we lead it more close. In the end she looks happy that it is over and if she has a lot new stuff to think of.
@WhiteStallionProduc12 жыл бұрын
She's only a baby! Just let her enjoy her childhood for two more years before working with her like this... why the rush?
@barbhorses12 жыл бұрын
OK, maybe it was a good first experience with this baby, but that is also not what I am talking about. I am talking about stressing the body before it is mature enough to properly handle this kind of stress.
@Quepali12 жыл бұрын
It is not a baby. I am not sure, but according to the development of the horse I think this footage is shot at the autumn. When a horse is at this age, thinking about the reproductive-organs, this horse can be compared to a human that is about 14 - 16 years old. They are not babies, are they?
@user-bz3dl5vq7m Жыл бұрын
А потолще седока не нашлось?
@QH110012 жыл бұрын
Michaelodonavan: That's Standardbred, not "standard breeds"
@dietcokegirl11812 жыл бұрын
At least they arent forcefully beating the horse to walk like some other people i've seen
@PartnershipEq12 жыл бұрын
And sometimes, even when a horse understands what you want, doesn't mean they like it or that they want to co-operate. Some horses are just more difficult to work with than others. They are not all victims of bad training. Often enough it is bad training, or incomplete training, but plenty of horses are just fussier or more dominant and take more time to settle in.
@kimmyj2911 жыл бұрын
She has to get use to the cars anyway. The starting gate is attached to the car.