DL191 DIY 3Dfx Voodoo 2 8MB to 12MB RAM Upgrade

[@mayssm]

I remember buying one of these when I was around 20. Most money I'd ever spent on anything other than my car or a PC.

[@MrAwol007]

same here :)

[@firstname1lastname127]

Ah memories... back when SLI was worth it, and still meant Scan-line Interleave.

[@volf3r505]

You mean before M$ and NoVideo collaborated to push DirectX and kill 3dfx and Glide ?. InHell might be anti-consumer and famous for how they kept better sales than original K7/Athlon with their horrid 423/478/ early 775 pentiums (Northwood, Prescott and so on) but what NoVideo did to 3dfx was way more anti-consumer and anti-progress - remember - NoVideo bought and completely erased what was left of 3dfx - just to get hold of the patents and bury Glide (which actually was way more efficient API than DirectX and was not tied to Windows). Same thing is happening with Vulkan now - only saving grace for it might be the next gen consoles.

[@BonkedByAScout]

@@volf3r505 3DFX went bankrupt, Nvidia picked up their assets on the cheap and didn't continue the limited non-scalable design the 3DFX cards were running on. That doesn't mean nvidia was evil. Glide was also not an open standard (until right before 3DFX went bankrupt), was tied to 3DFX's hardware, and was superseded by both OpenGL (of which Glide was originally based on) and DirectX. There was no point to Glide other than for 3DFX to have a proprietary offering to try to lock people into their brand.

[@Cooe.]

@@volf3r505 Holy delusional memories warped by nostalgia glasses, Batman! 3dfx killed themselves with stupid decision after stupid decision (like deciding to become their sole physical card manufacturer for some idiotic reason!), and Glide being closed source & funded by a failing company had loads of problems keeping up with the latest GPU features and games.

[@TimTaylor99]

@@Cooe. And since that time nVidia adapted it! 🙉

[@marcello4258]

but still not really efficient ... double gpu bumped approx 40% instead of 100%

[@beanondaddy3397]

Found your channel via KZbin recommendations. I used to build game rigs in the 90s for serious gamers using these boards. Brings back old memories..

[@baconfister]

The original Unreal!!! YESSS!!! One of the best games ever. I wish that modern day games were up to par with that title.

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

on a similar note for using the same pad . I have seen gents solder chips right on top of other ram chips. effectively using the same space for lanes.

[@yottabyter]

This is awesome! "Back when I was young" I had a Guillemot Maxi Gamer Phoenix Voodoo Banshee 16MB. While your card is arguably faster than that one was, it sure played UT and Half Life pretty great. It retired about 4 years later for a ATI 9700 and did a bios flash to a 9800 pro. Thanks for sending me down memory lane!

[@dyslectische]

Voodoo banshee is a voodoo2 with 2d gpu. One of the reason it have about the same power like aan voodoo2 8Mb . Not all 16Gb is use for the voodoo part.

[@thomasguilder9288]

Wow I assumed you have to copy the bios from the 12 MB card, I didn‘t expect auto detection of installed memory

[@GGigabiteM]

Voodoo1 and Voodoo2 cards don't have BIOSes, they're purely memory mapped devices.

[@roguenova6766]

Even if they would have BIOS chips, it is sometimes easier from a manufacturing standpoint to produce a single multipurpose component for many applications, than to make one for each modification of the same card.

[@rich1051414]

@@GGigabiteM Even still, I was surprised he didn't have to bridge solder pads to change the memory size. That was a very common way manufacturers could reuse boards without needing any additional logic at all.

[@xDownSetx]

@@roguenova6766 It's very common for videocards to have multiple bios versions specc'd for different memory manufacturers and timings.

[@joaoc_PT]

@@rich1051414 S3 did the same.

[@chris-tal]

Nice going! I did the same last month. Also replaced the RAMDAC and the VGA output switch (mux), to get rid of discoloration. What I haven't done yet was a near complete reverse engineering one of my bad boards. Also haven't found a way to test these fast EDO RAM chips.

[@xephorce]

my compliments on the excellent soldering skills. adding more vram to gpus is something i been thinking of trying for a while.

[@DextersTechLab]

Thanks!

[@MrKillswitch88]

These cards can be upgraded to 20mb (stacking or double density) provided one knows what they are doing as the TMUs can do more than just 4mb each and the spec according to documentation allowed up to 16mb per tmu however was never done to my knowledge. The frame buffer is limited to just 4mb on both the voodoo 1 and 2 as well the voodoo rush.

[@DextersTechLab]

I had suspected that as i have seen 12Mb cards with DRAMs installed on one side only so thy must be able to handle the extra dense chips.

[@sniglom]

@@DextersTechLab sounds like the second version of the STB V2 1000 when reading from this post: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=72925

[@totalrandomtechnolog]

Exellent job. I can't believe your timing on this! I just had a go trying to fix my VooDoo2 12MB also from Creative CT6670 which wouldn't go above 512x384. Even at 640x480 it would crash. Turns out it was also a memory chip that was bad. It was one of the four from the back from the framebufferchip. It's going strong now!

[@henrikwils9323]

How did you find the bad ram chip?

[@totalrandomtechnolog]

@@henrikwils9323I just removed the four chips on the back connected to the framebuffer, and already without those i could go up to 640x480 without issue. Then i added 4 "new chips" and it worked flawlessly at 800x600 again. As for knowing exactly which chip was bad, i've tested each one of those four chips on some S3 PCI videocard with sockets for EDO memory, and sure enough one of them was faulty and caused artifacts on that particular card.

[@cristiarhip3942]

@@totalrandomtechnolog Holy smokes!!! You just made my day! Thank you so much!

[@cptcrogge]

@@totalrandomtechnolog +1

[@uraoshi]

@@totalrandomtechnolog this solution is priceless!

[@mysterymayhem7020]

This was my favorite video card back in the day.

[@spudhead169]

Very neat and tidy solder job there. Top marks.

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

People who want to do this need a soldering iron with a very fine tip.

[@Law2120]

This is great. I need to watch this over and over. I have an 8 meg card that I want to make 12 megs so I can SLI it with my other 12 meg card. Great video. I dont have soldering experience, but ill give it a go. The 8 meg card was found in a thrift store computer for 5 bucks but i still dont want to ruin it.

[@joaoc_PT]

same here. 5 bucks? what a bargain!

[@legin3753]

Sli in the 90s nice

[@boone7777777777]

Building old sli and crossfire computers is pretty fuun

[@NCISCherno]

You can SLI two nonidentical Voodoo2 cards, the driver will adjust as needed. Granted you lose some memory but it is an option.

[@joaoc_PT]

I once desoldered 4 chips from an S3 virge to upgrade my s3 virge from 2 to 4MB. This was back in the 99 i think, with no internet, so, kinda gambled a bit, but was then able to play gta2 :)

[@taznz1]

There was an difference in game between the 8MB and 12MB card for one or more of need for speed games, there was no dash in cockpit view with 8MB card, I had the 12MB card and a number of friends had the 8MB cards and they ask me how to turned on the dash.

[@EpicureMammon]

Ooo I still have my V2. The memory on the second TMU was always sketchy, but I didn't realize it until I started playing Q2 more (I get magenta-colored smudges on multi-textured polygons). I probably suck too much at soldering to try to swap out chips, though. This is really cool. I wonder if anyone did this back in the day.

[@tahustvedt]

I remember when I bought my Voodoo 2. My co-workers thought I was crazy for spending that much money.

[@ChristopherWoods]

Oh god, those memories... Great video. I wasn't old or rich enough to make a seriously powerful gaming rig, but I still have several Voodoos, starting with the Banshee and latterly the V3 and V5 before I finally jumped to ATi. Perhaps I should build an old machine scavenged from bits, I think I kept my P3-450 somewhere!

[@phreak761]

Yes you should Christopher, nostalgia is king.

[@carlwillows]

Unreal Tournament was an epic game

[@TheNormanbro]

I still miss that old days when we run for flags, not frags:)

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

I'm quite pleased with your handywork also. You could run mismatched cards, but you'll bugger the 12mb card down to 8mb. If you ever upgrade memory on other cards, and they don't show full amount, it's because of little [0] resistors called memory straps. They need to be moved for config of higher density VRAM chips. Great job. Good luck in future projects. 😊

[@achilleonv]

I had a Voodoo II, but my first 3d accelerator was the Voodoo I. Had to use a patch cable to my video card. The Voodoo I handled the 3d graphics only. Had to upgrade to the Voodoo II once the I went out and all 3d aspects went black, but everything else worked.

[@marcello4258]

took me a second to realize 8mb texture memory leads to 12mb total memory (since we have 4mb frame buffer) when you said "we have a winner" haha..

[@bzuidgeest]

Nice video, but you choose the slowest method possible. Put a blob of solder on the tip and pull it along the pins. Surface tension and flux will do the rest. Much faster. Any bridges you make (if any if done properly) can be removed with some solder wick.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

sure, if you like cold solder joints. Better pre-heat with a hot air gun.

[@bzuidgeest]

@@SeeJayPlayGames if done properly it doesn't leave cold joints. If you have that you went to fast. Pre heating is just not required, but fine if you want to. Drag soldering is fast and I have done it with larger chips in mainboard repair in a professional setting. Never missed a pin.

[@frankowalker4662]

Nice one. Loving the microscope-o-vision.

[@lemagreengreen]

Weirdly I don't even remember seeing an 8MB card back in the day, I knew they existed but nobody I knew had one.

[@DextersTechLab]

Same here, i suspect they arrived as a run-out of the Voodoo2 at the end of it's life, clearing out the last stocks at discounted prices.

[@SOU6900]

I was shocked when I found the graphic chips on ebay. New unused and never soldered to a board.

[@Jayoldstuff1]

Nice soldering I've soldered that ic package before but using the drag method with LOTS of flux. but not really practical with the ic's that close i guess. I used to have a Voodo2 back in the late 90's in a cyrix Pr200 the Voodoo was my main expense in an otherwise budget gaming pc build. ran quake and duke3d awesomely.

[@kyles8524]

depends on what version the board rev is. I have like 10 pairs of voodoo 2's 12 and 8 meg versions and some of the 8 meg versions all the ram slot are used

[@DextersTechLab]

I would wager all the pcbs are the same but they use different density drams

[@pauls4522]

I have a 4 or 8mb Voodoo Banshee, 8mb Voodoo 2, 16mb voodoo 3500 tv, 64mb voodoo 5500. Hell yeah

[@LifeWithPico]

Not enough flux. The bigger the gob, the better the job. Also, it's time like this that a hot air station is a Godsend

[@kokodin5895]

there is 3 way of soldering those ram chips 3rd way is to solder sockets on and put ram in like on upgraded s3 trio/virge cards

[@registrazioniduemillaotton6030]

Suggestion: Those memory modules also go into SOCKETS! You could've got sockets online or salvaged from S3 Trio/Virge cards :)

[@ruthmoreton6975]

I remember unreal being not so blocky and higher texture. I suspect in another 20 years I'll be thinking "my word, elite dangerous used to run at the size of a postage stamp" as I gaze through my 6000 pixel per millimeter VR / AR contact lenses.

[@GameTechRefuge]

I wounder is worth replacing the yellow smd tantalum while you have the soldering iron out. Be pain if it failed short.

[@sixhunt]

love me some QW !! also ran voodoo2 in sli at the time :D

[@larskruger3589]

Beautyfull silicon grave

[@ClassicTrialsChannel]

I still have my 2 Diamond VooDoo 2 12mb cards boxed in my spare room

[@ibizenco]

These still exist, or rather: work? I had a Voodoo4 once (and years earlier a Voodoo 1 "add-on card", aka "Diamond Monster 3D", attached to an S3 Virge DX/GX, if I remember correctly).

[@psychoticgiraffe]

What would happen if you used a 24mb ram instead would it fail to recognize that ram increase

[@DextersTechLab]

Most likely, i am sure the frame buffer is fixed at 4Mb. The TMUs i believe can address 16Mb, but i have never seen anyone try and upgrade a card.

[@psychoticgiraffe]

@@DextersTechLab 16mb version of the card might be a neat thing to try

[@shaunohagan1491]

The cards aren't the same if you look at the contacts on the PCI or is it AGP contacts.

[@anomaly95]

With that precision, you would be an awesome surgeon. I'll probably get thumbs-downed for this, but: Another valid way to fix the issue would be to downgrade the 12MB card to an 8MB (if the memory chips turn to unobtainium).

[@DextersTechLab]

Tbh i think there are plenty of new-old-stock dram chips around.

[@hypercube33]

He showed that the 8mb just didnt have enough ram for some things, didnt he?

[@stefanl5183]

@Apache Longbow Yeah, you could run SLI on the 8MB cards just as well. The frame buffer memory was the most important and interestingly enough frame buffer was the same on 8mb cards as it was on 12mb cards. As he mentioned in the video, the difference was you get more texture swapping on the 8mb cards. On a more modern system one way to perhaps work around or alleviate this somewhat, might be to create a ramdisk in system memory, copying all the game files there, and running the game from the ramdisk. You'd still get some slowdown, but it wouldn't be as bad as paging it from disk. One thing I wonder about is was there any compatible memory chips faster than 25ns? If I recall correctly, I believe you could overclock these cards just a bit. I wonder if faster memory allow more overclocking. Of course, to do that, youd have to replace all of the chips, which would be a good bit of work, and that's assuming the processing chips wouldn't be the limiting factor.

[@cmcmil]

@@stefanl5183 It would be an interesting experiment to see if you can improve performance using a ramdisk. There are ways of creating one in Win9x and even DOS. But I am not sure the problem is really paging from disk -- that really would be slow. Couldn't the bottleneck just be copying from ram to the video card? I also wonder about the 25ns chips. The thing is 25ns is pretty fast for those days. The system ram in those older systems is something like 70ns, so probably you'd get more bang-for-the-buck by getting fast ram, say 60ns or less. Again, I suspect the bottleneck is between system ram and the video card. Then again you are also limited by the PCI bus speed. It would be interesting to overclock the PCI bus a bit just to see how much you can squeeze out of the machine. This would probably only be noticeable on newer games with bigger textures like Quake III instead of the Quake demo given in this video. Quake textures were smaller and would have required less swapping from ram, so the difference between 8 and 12mb didn't really matter.

[@DextersTechLab]

Interesting thoughts, though i would point out that this machine had a fast CF card as the main drive which would do 60mb/sec so a ramdisk might not make much difference. It's since been upgraded to a SATA SSD via a parallel to serial converter. You can get 20ns drams, which does allow for a bigger overclock. I think these are the ones marked 120mhz?

[@Spazilton1]

To do J lead chips, a pull and drag method with a knife tip is so much faster.

[@ShamblerDK]

But... it still only said 8MB? Or am I missing something?

[@DextersTechLab]

I am just simplifying it as the total RAM on the card. Made up of 8Mb Texture + 4 Mb Framebuffer, before the upgrade it was 4Mb+4Mb.

[@Channel-Zx]

Great Vid and to think i used to sell these cards new back in the mid 90's the Voodoo cards where the bomb. Cyrix 686 or IBM CPU, Win95, CdRom, SBlaster and Doom2 in a tower...

[@jeffm2787]

Not sure why you're not drag soldering and using a chisel tip. It's all fine, but took way longer then needed.

[@michaelbloom5342]

I was about to say the same thing. He could have cut his time and effort drastically.

[@nexxusty]

Even that is unnecessarily long. Solder paste + heat gun in this situation would take a total of 1-2 minutes. Your point remains valid though. Absolutely.

[@ruthmoreton6975]

@@nexxusty he did say his equipment wasn't up to hot air flowing.

[@osrr6422]

I actually have a set of those 8MB cards. One is unfortunately missing a cap on the back, easy fix since I have the other one for reference. I notice the bottom number on the chips don't match. I'm assuming its maybe a lot number or something? Long as the part number matches?

[@fra1111089]

why you dind't use a rework station and a stream of hot air to do this job?

[@tomf3150]

Awesome vid. A glidemapper would work too.

[@Mr_Meowingtons]

this is where a Hot air station comes in handy

[@CRG]

Great work, just discovering your channel now (random youtube recommendation) and enjoying the content. I've always struggled soldering SMD components like those chips but your close up and methods give me a bit of confidence to try again (not a voodoo upgrade, just a random dead chip that needs replacing). I do wonder though if the upgrade you did here would work with other cards of the era that were available with different amounts of memory.

[@DextersTechLab]

Thank you, having some kind of microscope helps a lot. You can always find old junk boards to practice removing and replacing components.

[@AG-pm3tc]

Theoretically, is it possible to install a ridiculous memory amount on it? Like 24mb or something?

[@keszerda8364]

No. The circuit board can only access 12 MB; there are no traces on the board going to the pins you'd need to address more memory.

[@cmcmil]

Yes, in theory it is possible: darwin-3dfx.sourceforge.net/voodoo2.pdf I've never heard of anyone trying it though, or if other configuration settings or software support are needed.

[@DextersTechLab]

Ooh, that's a nice document! Thanks for the link!

Gained a subscriber! Very "gold" vídeo

[@0371998]

Do you put glue on the board and after you add the metal in fusion ?

[@DextersTechLab]

No glue was used!!!

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

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[@DextersTechLab]

Lol, love it. Thanks!

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

@@DextersTechLab you are welcome :v

[@ruthmoreton6975]

Use more flux when wicking. lots more. flux the wick and the board if it's a no-clean flux pen or just the board if it's flux paste. You can't use too much flux.

[@zxspectrum16KB]

Can u squeeze a tv encoder in there too?

[@Trevurie]

I think a heat gun would do a better job but if you dont have one a soldering iron would do just fine but takes longer.

[@Melechtna]

Any reason you couldn't go above 12MB?

[@NBF27]

I have 4 black Voodoo2’s that are 12MB cards, but they only have memory on one side. There are components on the back, but no memory. I use 2 in one of my retro PCs and have 2 spare. Could it be possible to convert these to 24MB cards and run two of them in SLI giving 48MB of graphics. If it is possible, it’d be total overkill...

[@DextersTechLab]

Yes i do think this might be possible. But as games were optimised for the 8mb texture ram i doubt you would see any difference.

[@92trdman]

WOW!! WOW!! WOW!! give me five!!! (Memory of my K6-2 300Mhz with Voodoo2 + Diamond MX300!!!)

[@SkippyDa]

Nice job! Time perhaps for a hot air station, would've made it easier.

[@DextersTechLab]

Maybe, but i find soldering with an iron quite calming and therapeutic!

[@djmips]

I worked at a 3DFx card maker and Mau could hot air an entire card together in about 15 minutes or less. So it's certainly faster but doing it your way is very impressive.

[@duncangarnett1976]

@ 8:17 I noticed on the bottom right RAM section there is a contact/pad missing on the middle of the top row. How did you go about fixing that? Also @16:15 when you brought up system info it showed 8MB total RAM, I thought you upgraded from 8MB to 12MB RAM on the voodoo 2 card.

[@hartsickdisciple]

The Voodoo 2 12mb cards had a 4MB frame buffer + 8mb separate texture memory. That's 12mb total. That's what is shown at 16:15.

[@lorim7487]

Nice bit of surface mount work there ;-)

[@DextersTechLab]

Thanks Laurie, good to know you are still watching! 😁

[@homerlandon8767]

I wish I could just solder on an extra 4 or 8 gb of ram on my gtx video card

[@jedimasternoob]

More VRAM does not increase performance beyond games that do not need more than 8. Pascal cards are a good example of this, my xfx 580 came with 8gb of 2000mhz mem, but I can get far more out of it by over clocking the memory rather than adding more or even over clocking the core.

[@homerlandon8767]

uhh thank you for that response, but not everyone has 8+gb of ram on their video cards

[@triples8554]

miss my 3 stb blackmagic v2;s

[@MisterRorschach90]

So what would happen if you upgraded the memory to a higher capacity than intended? 24, 32, 64mb?

[@johncate9541]

Would be interesting to find out. I don't think anyone's ever created a V2 with more than 12MB on it.

[@Bassquake76]

16:10 Shouldnt Total Texture Memory be 12MB rather than 8MB if you've upgraded? Or is the Frame Buffer included too?

[@DextersTechLab]

Generally speaking the quoted size of a voodoo 2 includes the frame buffer.

[@Bassquake76]

@@DextersTechLab Gotcha 👍

[@MrKillswitch88]

The memory on Voodoo 1 and 2 cards works very differently from later cards as each of the frame buffer and tmu chips has its own memory. The frame buffer is limited to just 4mb and doesn't scale in sli while the tmu memory does which tops out at 16mb according to documentation though never tested.

[@HappyLittleDiodes]

Great close ups can I ask what camera you use for that?

[@DextersTechLab]

It's a hayear microscope camera and a Kowa LMZ45T3 macro lens

[@trueyskye]

I've tried to buy 10 of these chips from UTSource but it costs $25.92 plus $27.53 shipping to UK. Do you know anywhere else that may sell them at a reasonable price? Great video BTW. Cheers

[@DextersTechLab]

Thanks, you can choose to use the postal service not one of the couriers. It's cheaper.

[@trueyskye]

@@DextersTechLab ahh missed the shipping options. Its a bit discreet. Thats a lot better at 6 dollars or so cheers for that 👍

[@StillRenderFilm]

Can I do this to GTX1060 3gb? Edit: I have 6gb version never seen 3gb pcb up close.

[@ozmobozo]

If you make the other card 8mb will it work that way?

[@johnk7134]

Nice video, can you post the source for the memory?

[@DextersTechLab]

It's www.utsource.net/

[@cromulence]

I ordered some chips and tried this previously, but the chips were duds! I really want to try and do it again but I don't think my brother wants to go through the stress of re-soldering the chips again! I don't suppose you would ever consider offering this as a service?

[@DextersTechLab]

Erm.... maybe

[@MoodSwingZX]

Ia have 12MB version at home pc is still alive but needs a new hardrive is there a way to adapt something never to it?

[@DextersTechLab]

Yes, there are plenty of options to adapt newer drives and ssd to the old parallel ide interface. Compact Flash cards are probably the easiest to use.

[@haz939]

Unlikely to get VAT from purchasing chips form china, Usually if the price is under $20 and they mark it as commercial sample or gift. Nice job with the card.

[@lugaidster]

Could you share a link to where you got the chips? They seem to be unubtanium for me on the usual places like ebay or aliexpress.

[@DextersTechLab]

Sure, it's utsource

[@SerpentorX]

Great job, congrats, I saw in the past also "memory swap" in other components and I found amazing. I Try to solder several times but I really sucked at it.. ¿What guide do you recommend to start doing some small projects soldering in the PC components PCB? (Example I want to change condensers in some motherboards that are swollen) Best regards.

[@MrGameplayer103]

You can buy small kits to build and practice on, i got a small audio amplifier kit and it came with a board and a bunch of resisters and capacitors. great practice and it doesn't matter if you mess it up.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

What would happen if you removed all but one memory chip ? Would it texture swap constantly or would it even work ?

[@DextersTechLab]

Most likely the driver wouldn't initialise the card and it simply wouldn't work.

[@TheDigitalOrphanage]

Nicely done. I miss my Voodoo 2's even more now. Surprised to see the drivers even allowed mismatched SLI like that. I have an A1200 accelerator card empty memory positions. Hopefully one day, when I find the RAM chips, I can do the same to it. What was the chip supplier you used?

[@JorgeCarvalho_web_dev]

I think that was utsource. They have their proper website and they are present on ebay under the same name utsource

[@UXXV]

Good video buddy, just practise narration and think about what you're saying to cut down on the umms to make future ones even better

[@MrTimjm009]

1st . its great to see this kind of blast from the past . 2nd . I dont know how much you paid for 2 voodoo 2 cards but just an opinion . How about a combined voodoo 3 , 4 or the 5? . Thats what I still have . It works but I dont use it now . BAsed on the fact this is up grading the ram . mine has 64 MB so do you have any sugggestions or have yue ever done a video on that ? Im just curious really . It would be interesting to see if I could get chips which would fit on my voodoo 5 pci board . I expect that voltage and frequencies are important to consider. It would be interesting to see if I could jump up from 64 MB ( maybe double it or even get better gpu´s of which there are 2 on my board ) . Great video anyway

[@dst0815]

use more flux and retin the pads before cleaning... will be a better result

[@kirknelson156]

I've still got 2 Voodoo 2 cards in a box somewhere, I have been planning a retro win 98 box as well. nice to see i'm not alone in that desire :)

[@MrKillswitch88]

They're worth good money these days just check eBay otherwise keep them.

[@wiselinkmarque3947]

I have a win98 box with two voodoo2, took it all apart and put it in storage after I figured out that glide wrapper actually works better

[@wiselinkmarque3947]

@@MrKillswitch88 I have 3 voodoo2 cards one is new..

[@Match451]

What's the Mhz rating of the RAM? I've seen some Voodoo2s with 90mhz, and 100mhz. I've heard of some boards with 110mhz, and even some with 125Mhz. I'd be curious how they overclock compared to the 90 and 100Mhz versions. I understand the 3dfx chips run at the same clock as the memory, and I wonder whether the limiting factor is the memory or the 3dfx chips. I used some thermal epoxy to glue some aluminum heat sinks onto the 3dfx chips. It didn't help with overclocking too much, but I put a box fan on high on my Voodoo2s and was able to temporarily overclock it to about 120mhz.

[@DextersTechLab]

25ns is 80mhz for EDO, so the standard cards already overclock the ram at 90mhz. The later ones with the faster 100mhz and 125mhz ram will overclock easier if you can keep the 3 3dfx ICs cool enough. At least that is how i understand it.

[@Match451]

@@DextersTechLab Future video potential? I'd love to see two Voodoo2s modded with 125mhz RAM and some copper heatsinks glued to the 3dfx chips with thermal epoxy. You could do a clickbaity "Fastest Voodoo2s in the world" title too. =P

[@MrKillswitch88]

@@Match451 Not a great idea when these cards are over $100 a pop sometimes a lot more.

[@normnichols6632]

want to upgrade yours??? Forgetaboutit....no chips.

[@lharris428]

What iron were you using? Wattage? Thanks!

[@DextersTechLab]

It's a Xytronic LF-8800

[@garystinten9339]

Now do a 3090 to a 4090

[@kalijasin]

Wow!! 😮 That must of took forever to solder.

[@DextersTechLab]

Actually only about an hour. Would have been quicker without videoing it

[@razorx2024]

i have a voodoo 2 graphics card kicking around somewhere

[@johnkristian]

total texture memory 8 ... wasn't it supposed to be 12?

[@DextersTechLab]

8mb for texture ram, the other 4mb is the frame buffer. Someone brought this up earlier, the voodoo2 cards always seem to be quoted with both the texture and frame buffer together. It's a bit confusing.

[@richardhead8264]

*_17:12_*_ What makes you think that was my expectation?_ 🤣👏

[@kennysboat4432]

Too bad they dont make cards upgrade able now. I wish vram was socketed, same with GPUs.

[@erwinvigilia6303]

They're supposed to be identical cards? The edge connectors look dissimilar.

[@zaprodk]

MB (Bytes) not bits :)

[@DextersTechLab]

Lol, ok i will change it just for you!

[@AR-ff8th]

I have did it with hot air - it much simpler