DLSS / FSR / Frame Generation in emulators and other games that don't have native support

[@AlexwpiGame]

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[@PalturBR]

Man se podia fazer um remake do pcx2 vs rpcs3 , faz 1 ano desde o ultimo video, só pra gente ver o que mudou, pq o rpcs3 teve varios updates

[@MrAnony07]

Nvidia it's impossible for us to give anything other than RTX4000 cards Framgen then there's a random guy online gave it to everyone with a program and AMD gave it to basically everyone as well lol

[@Prisoner_ksc2-303]

Let's not get overboard. DLSS3 is still better and doesn't have UI flickering...

[@xenolation2362]

​@Prisoner_ksc2-303 i agree,but it still to early to judge,considering this was a mod to begin with,it definetly will improve by time

[@holad-jlsegovia-423]

​@@Prisoner_ksc2-303 It's not much about the fact that one is better over the other (which is a fact) but mostly in the fact that NVIDIA marketed DLSS 3 as the big feature only possible in 4000 cards and making it the biggest selling point of those cards, not to mention their benchmarks were showing the results with framegen enabled as well

[@caduguardrailkingowo]

​@@Prisoner_ksc2-303i bet you could do better if someone pay you some snacks

[@prem3548]

@@Prisoner_ksc2-303 Actually DLSS 3 has way worse UI flickering than FSR 3 does right now when its implemented at a game level. This is because FSR 3 doesn't render the UI elements in the generated frames. Making it impossible to have artifacts on UI unlike DLSS 3 does in literally every game I tried. Also, AMD users have frame-gen in literally every single game at a driver level right now.

[@Aerosplinter]

I recently tried this on Shenmue with 60hz, and while the frame gen is not perfect, it is a great start :)

[@rabbidscool]

i have a 60hz monitor too, do you set your game to 60 or 30 fps when using framegen?

[@Boofener]

i miss when rasterized performance was the main target. now developers heavily lean on dlss and fsr so they dont have to optimize their games as much

[@Boofener]

@@dun8632 facts

[@Exavold]

Maybe instead of calling developers lazy you should expect performance issues when not using a modern GPU in a modern game.

[@Boofener]

@@Exavold thats terrible logic. when i buy a game it should work on the hardware i purchase especially when its more than enough for said title

[@Exavold]

@@BoofenerRecommended specs are a thing, if you buy without look at them it's your fault.

[@Boofener]

@@Exavold i have a ryzen 7 7800x3D and a 7800xt with a target resolution of 1440p💀 i think recommended specs are well covered bub

[@nicoful86]

I have a hard time allowing for increased latency in emulation, it just doesn't make sense

[@dadgamer6717]

wow thanks i have lossless scaling. i always felt it added latency but it will be great for callisto protocol full ray tracing on my 3080ti 4k 120hz! i struggle to hit constant 60 due to cpu bottleneck.

[@ALph4cro]

Just use the FSR3 mod. Lossless Scaling doesn't work as good as it does.

[@fireballs7346]

rpcs3 doesnt have fsr 3 yet@@ALph4cro

[@paulustrucenus]

"Small graphical artifacts" We don't have the same definition of "small"

[@ThermaL-ty7bw]

people need to learn about ''Windows'' itself , it has many hidden features that can be turned on or changed , these can help your performance more then buying new pc components ... like the Ultimate power plan , setting games to Extreme priority , unparking CPU cores , telling Windows to use ALL cores instead of holding 2 of them in a coma ( sleep mode ) ... and loads more things to discover that can give you at least 2 more cores to play with and a hell of a lot of power + performance , for free

[@bachir5767]

Do you have any goos guide about This?

[@purehollow]

This only works if the game is cpu bottleneck but if the problem is the gpu you need to upgrade

[@nayyabmughal1123]

Thanks for the update bro.

[@paolocarvalho]

Great video, Alex!

[@purehollow]

It didn't work for me in rd1 ryujinx instead it produced some weird blur when moving camera but the fps didn't change

[@blackstar-genX]

I'm not a fan of frame generation but this is amazing for games that are stuck at a 30fps lock or can't be run high because system limits or emulator limits.

[@AlexwpiGame]

Keep in mind that the FPS limit you can achieve depends on your hardware along with your monitor's refresh rate. For example, you can't play at 120FPS on a 60Hz monitor using this application.

[@rorynolan2322]

Frame gen sucks for 30fps content

[@werewolfpit8141]

@@AlexwpiGame hi, thanx for this excelent video! , i have Nvidia card gtx 1050 ti, core 5 (10 generation - good procesor) can i use this fsr 3? or isn´t incompatible for GTX cards?? thanx in advance!! (emulators and native pc)

[@mohamadredzwan6628]

​@@rorynolan2322 It say the bare minimum was 30 fps with 60hz like it not good but it work. The recommended one is 60fps with 120hz.

[@mariusstefan9798]

@@werewolfpit8141 i tried it on hogwarts with 1050 ti, its better than without it(less frame drops) but my game feels very bad like im running on 30fps but it says that i have 60

[@HuntaKiller91]

Perfect for APU Thx lossless scaling

[@partizanSquad]

That thing is incredible

[@nayyabmughal1123]

bro i tried it but nothings seems to work. could you please make a video on how to exactly do it. sorry just knew to all this.

[@lellollo]

Hi m8! Great video, probably the most interesting video I’ve seen in the last month! Is it possible to play online games with this program without being banned?

[@RyzenZegend]

Yes , Fortnite works wonders!

[@eskitvturkiye774]

The game is in window mode but the scale says get window mode

[@HeuZx]

This is insane.. I wonder if it will work with UEVR its a Unreal Engine Virtual Reality injector mod that makes you play UE 4 & 5 games in VR but some games might perform bad so with this will probably make gameplay smoother...

[@mjcox242]

This is a post prosessing tool so wont effect the vr view Also, you better of enableing ether ASW or motion smoothing in vr as those framegen algorithms are intended for vr.

[@gumi_twylit2605]

instead of helping with increasing the fps , my frames instead when enabled dips significantly help :(

[@RohanAdwani]

lock your fps to 30

[@AnisTheLxgend]

Your CPU has no headroom your CPU must atleast be at 80%-85% usage to use frame gen and upscaling

[@jaotrx7163]

Dude games like infamous or ratchet a crack in think should be playable now, even uncharted 2.

[@ZomgZomg007]

Title has DLSS, but none of the options here has DLSS. Nvidia Scaler is not DLSS

[@FAHRENHEITDELIO]

Can the intel XeSS mod be included in The Callisto Protocol? Could you make a video about that?

[@gmh50o26]

Great video, but I'm slightly disappointed by the lack of a ryujinx test.

[@AlexwpiGame]

the application will behave on Ryujinx the same way it behaves on Yuzu

[@gmh50o26]

@@AlexwpiGame nice thank you

[@Intrinsic16]

Thanx man, but i have fsr 3 mod installed for Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk which enables frame gen on my 3060. My fps have doubled. Having a blast with path Tracing cuz of that. I would love to see a full guide on how to enable frame gen on Zelda TOTK yuzu canary.❤

[@jesusemestrejedi2170]

Meu amigo isso é tipo Tekpix "não é feitiçaria é tecnologia" mesmo?

[@AlexwpiGame]

Comercial com a feiticeira ainda. Para vc não tirar os olhos da tela

[@retrogamer847]

Brother i bought this app,but i want to get stable 41 fps on my 165hz monitor laptop, please how should i set this lossless scaling app setting to match a good stable 41 fps without stutter or lag.

[@AnisTheLxgend]

Lossless scaling app doesn't perform well on laptops

[@mayanksingh12]

Wow.. But what about older RTX cards which dont have ability of frame generation? How much performance gain can we expect in those cases? Like I have RTX 3070. So how much gain can I expect in my case?

[@TheNewGamePluss]

Depends on your monitor and it does work. Just some games and setting need to be adjusted. I use a 3090 Ti

[@RCSky7711]

Works with my rtx 3070

[@hagenhallgard8619]

Must rpcs3 be launched through steam or?

[@gamingwiththeprimarch2698]

Does this lossless scaling frame gen work with Minecraft Java edition?

[@thescaredpanda8735]

Can LSFG work with gsync? I ticked "VRR support" but the frame pacing is still off.

[@RCSky7711]

It supposedly can but I would not do it that way because your frame pacing will be all over the place

[@Zemla]

any problems with HDR?

[@raul1642]

goddamn worjks like charm in emulator

[@retrogamer847]

what should i do to play every emoulator at 60 fps with this tool ? my laptop is 165hz and i bought this app,please help me i want 60 fps stable not 120 fps,how can i get that

[@AlexwpiGame]

Limit your refresh rate in the video settings.

[@retrogamer847]

@@AlexwpiGame how please guide me more

[@angelodizon9528]

​@@retrogamer847use rttss to limit frame rate, make sure you install latest ver

[@riverblack123]

What about input latency?

[@leviathon1113]

Any chance this works with steam deck?

[@DomitriCervantes]

oooohhh that would be good

[@kennyplayer7731]

This technology is about to launch in amd but currently only to 780m apu meaning the steam deck will not be supported at launch only rog ally or 7000 cpus

[@RyzenZegend]

Of course it works on Steam Deck. This the Best app right now!!

[@Bro01lly]

Hello, thank you for this videos 😀 What about the latency in the differents games?

[@AlexwpiGame]

During tests on all emulators, I didn't notice any increase in latency, but I've seen tests showing that there is an increase in input lag at 120FPS.

[@Bro01lly]

@@AlexwpiGame Thank you for your feedback :)

[@Jujuonthatbeats]

lfsg is missing on my pc and i can only choose lfsl

[@AlexwpiGame]

Use beta

[@AmitShah511]

This should be a steam deck decky plugin

[@RyzenZegend]

Want 120Fps? Lock your game to 60FPS then activate lossless scaling!

[@kizuma4269]

What about games with less than 20 fps , would it work ?

[@AlexwpiGame]

If you have a fixed 20FPS and don't have much variation, it will help, you can see this test with the Alan Wake 2 test at the end of the video

[@retrogamer847]

you saying this even better than mods games ? i like to buy just to get stable 60 fps in rdr 1

[@mbf6749]

What cpu do you have? i keep 60 fps withot drops. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHqunGeohZlsaa8

[@AlexwpiGame]

I meant that the requirements to run a game at 30FPS and use frame generation for 60FPS are lower than modifying a game to run at native 60FPS. However, when using frame generation, artifacts occur, and using 60FPS mods, this won't happen.

[@retrogamer847]

@@AlexwpiGame Soo using 60fps mod with lossless scaling is good for getting stable fps ?

[@AlexwpiGame]

@@retrogamer847 It depends; if there are small drops, Lossless Scaling will likely correct them, but if there are significant drops, you'll feel that the game is slower at that moment.

[@isaiahsmart9933]

how the heck does midnight club work for you

[@AlexwpiGame]

I think it's been working for me since last year; there are some artifacts in the lighting, but overall, it's playable.

[@werewolfpit8141]

i have Nvidia card gtx 1050 ti, core 5 (10 generation - good procesor) can i use this fsr 3? or isn´t incompatible for GTX cards?? thanx in advance!! (emulators and native pc)

[@ElsnakeTV]

Work in gtx 1000

[@CyroLemon]

i think it won't work only on onboard gpu

[@angelfernandogoku5224]

Brother!!!!!!!!!!!! Plisss test dragón ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on dolphin or pxsc2 !

[@nit3h8wk81]

Seems worth the $6.99 to me. I have a laptop with a 4080 and 13980hx.

[@xjax8519]

In RPCS3 FSR its like 720p and 4k ))))

[@jason5021]

Would this work on the ROG ally?

[@AlexwpiGame]

yes

[@Domenic1407]

Wish It would work on steam deck

[@RawBenchmark]

"AI-based frame gen?" seriously? AMD FG is NOT AI based on which lossless is based, and AMD GPUs have no AI cores, isnt it?

[@letsplaysomthing3799]

hey its looks great but what about online games will i get banned if use this?

[@123Yessie456]

So did you not watch the first 2 minutes of the video?

[@AZZOMY2010]

I used it on Zelda TOTK It looks awful in motion 💔

[@tusloj]

Yeah. I mean, it just started, so give it some time.

[@Virjoinga]

One problem with this method is input delay, it'll always be a factor when using FG. Cool technology nonetheless.

[@TheNewGamePluss]

Is less noticeable if you use a controller for the games. Now mouse and keyboard yeah is very noticeable

[@RCSky7711]

I thought the same thing, honestly I don't notice it, and that is even with 30fps games running at 60 if anthing it feels much more responsive.

[@TheNewGamePluss]

@@RCSky7711I usually play with controller so is not noticeable for me, but he I switch to keyboard and mouse I do feel the latency more.

[@RCSky7711]

@@TheNewGamePluss I wonder how much latency it adds, I stream from pc to tablet alot, that has noticeable latency to the point I won't play fps games, frame gen I don't notice it

[@TheNewGamePluss]

@@RCSky7711 I haven’t tested that but playing in front of the pc is not bad. I would t stream it on the tablet with frame gen.

[@SonGoku-lb4dy]

Can thes in Mac mini m2 ?

[@giulioperea3727]

es impresionante sobretodo en gran turismo RPCS3 pero en mi monitor de 165hz no funciona bien deberían arreglar ese problema

[@jordannunez1480]

165hz ya es mucho para el programa, hay que limitar los hz de la pantalla a 120hz y el juego a 60, y que te corra nativamente a 60

[@FedyLaafif]

it's good for competitve online gaming i think they should just name that

[@affemitwaffe9080]

Is it possible to use fsr 3 for rdr2?

[@Bamqtr]

Yea you can do with fsr3 mod

[@DetonaHard]

Mandou benzão!

[@AlexwpiGame]

Valew tio

[@FedyLaafif]

this a 60 fps app odnt recommand for 30 and for monitor who have 120 hz and above

[@yerbalxrd]

This is NOT FSR 3... its FSR 1

[@Nico1a5]

its LSFG for frame generation, and choose your algorithm for upscaling

[@RawBenchmark]

God of War3 on PS3 was 720p

[@-psycho-0]

If I didn't have 7800xt I would've bought it and that's because we already have Afmf

[@racing_duck]

AFMF does not work for vulkan games, also not for emulators or normal softwares like MPV for example

[@Dacroxx]

Try on ps2 and dolphin emulator pls 🙏

[@randomstuffx8280]

Sounds like desmond miles

[@pkpkpkok]

Lossless Scaling is fake fps? rog ally?

[@marccastlerock6997]

Nothing happens with yuzu and ryujinx .... fps double indicate but si not true. On RTX3060 ... :D

[@onlykidstv273]

I try warzone and Fortnite. 30fps native to 60fps. The experience suck. I prefer 35fps without losses scaling. The sensation was very weird. I don't like this.

[@RyzenZegend]

You did it wrong.... Fortnite Gets 120FPs easily on 2k resolution with epic settings.

[@00Clive00]

Crap frame rate in = crap frame rate out. It's not worth using unless your already getting 60fps in a game.

[@onlykidstv273]

@@00Clive00 if I 60fps in the game, why I need this yet?

[@00Clive00]

​@@onlykidstv273Unless you have a 120hz display, you don't need it. FG isn't designed to work at frame rates lower than 60fps, because you'll get to many undesirable artifacts.

[@angelodizon9528]

​@@00Clive00not true. Underdesireable artifacts is WAY better than 30fps. Can't believe people can't see the difference between 30 and 60 and yet want to bump 60 to 120. Above 60 is waste of $ imho since it's marginally better. Human eye can only see 60 fps

[@bayramkose8989]

Awesome

[@Navss47]

forza game was in portuguese nice one

[@nsysp4]

CEMU? 😅

[@lilSmurf69]

😏i was like number 1000

[@AlexwpiGame]

Thank you for your like, and congratulations on being the thousandth hero to click this beautiful button!

[@iwantravioli]

Whoooo!!

[@ThermaL-ty7bw]

you're basically paying for an AI now , not for a GPU the GPU is now a prop to put the AI on ... the now 6 YEAR OLD 2080ti runs just as fast as a 4070ti , if you leave off the frame generation and DLSS/NIS gadgets ... there is NO difference , the 2080ti gets more fps in some games ... you're Definitely not paying for a GPU anymore , just the right to buy these unpolished child-stage AI that need new instructions every other month with DLL file but i guess This is what WE wanted ...

[@omarxp9076]

need update

[@T4GTR43UM3R]

And no mention about the input lag. I'd rather have 30 FPS with a pretty low lag than 60 FPS with a noticeable delay. FPS isn't everything.

[@lostsektor]

maybe 60 to 120 looks good, but 30 to 60, have too much artifacts.

[@angelodizon9528]

On the contrary 60 to 120 isn't noticeable increase in fps but 30 to 60 is. So I'd rather "see and feel" a bump in fps and increase in artifacts than less artifacts but can't "feel" the increase in fps

[@metroplex29]

Ai video, Ai voice over, Ai replys in the comments, damn...

[@AlexwpiGame]

It would be really cool if the entire video had been generated by AI and I didn't spend an entire day, from early morning until night, just to write the script, translate it into three different languages, create a thumbnail, and edit it. Not to mention, it took another half day to capture and analyze all the data.

[@itsdoctormichaelmorbius6889]

Are u fucking kidding me? That's a huge news

[@DRACULA789z]

wow that is actually insane ! , is it only on rtx 40 series right , so i can't use it on my 3060🥲

[@L0rpGaming]

I am pretty sure it's for every GPU

[@AlexwpiGame]

I saw people even testing it on Ryzen's integrated GPU, the only thing I'm not sure if it works is Nvidia NIS on other platforms

[@DRACULA789z]

yep you're right i just tried it rn , thanks btw@@L0rpGaming

[@Oakich]

NIS works on Radeon iGPU