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[@shawnadams1460]

My last campaign I used a ritual EVERY morning to give all of my players Waterbreathing for 24 hours. Told my DM, every morning I serve tea to the group, casting this spell as a ritual. It kept me from having to make sure it was applied, and was just an automatic thing. We went from level 1 to 14 during this campaign and the DM had a nasty lair action set up for us where a room could flood completely....yeah he totally forgot about my morning ritual...hell some of the players forgot about it...but I didn't...lol.

[@Jacob-qr8pl]

I actually like the RP idea of it. The party starts to panic. The wizard is calm. "Guys....we had tea this morning"

[@RDGoodner]

Waterbreating is what caused me to learn about that class feature. My wizard nearly got drowned on two consecutive adventures. She leveled up after the second one and took Waterbreathing, and she cast it every morning. For a few sessions, I just burned a spell slot, but then I read the book more closely and found out I could do it as a ritual. Then some other PCs started showing up at her house every morning to be part of the ritual, cause why not? (And, of course, she never needed it for the entire rest of the campaign, but it was some fun RP.)

[@Fortuna_2200]

Asking a stupid question, but we are still required to learn the specific ritual spell before being able to cast it no? Or do you just have automatic access to all ritual spells within your level?

[@ThatFairyBoy]

@@Fortuna_2200 You will still need to learn it and add it to your spellbook, but once it's in the spellbook you can ritual cast it without needing to prepare it

[@OneShotQuesters]

**Dies of 1d4 new wizard damage**

[@Scouting1212]

RIP

[@DanteDrago]

Rocks fall and everyone dies

[@cavick]

As a wizard player I love that you’ve made this a thing.

[@fordsmolko872]

Where's the new paladin to throw back some Lay on Hands?

[@bryanabbott6169]

Good thing they didn't buff the Wizard's HD.... ☺

[@KnuthMaestro]

Between this video and the Presidential Debate, this is the most important thing I will watch today.

[@nicholascmartinez]

Truth.

[@rogen8094]

Let's not kid ourselves - this video is vastly more important than the presidential "debate", lol

[@vanessaaves3271]

@@rogen8094 amen to that

[@MagicUzer]

Both videos go really deep into Illusions, worth.

[@saber5694]

​@rogen8094 disagree if your in the US the debate Is definitely more important

[@solowolf7418]

Dispel Magic as a bonus action is pretty sweet 😀

[@ActualChef]

I can’t wait to dispel Leomund’s Tiny Hut my party acquired as a broach from a retired Dwarven adventurer. They’re getting way too comfortable in that thing. I made the trade price so high I thought they’d never take it. But they went all-in.

[@Mage-mc7mz]

@@ActualChefTiny hut is an AMAZING spell with so many benefits that it’s worth having no matter the cost.

[@rettwoods]

@@ActualChef I might suggest providing a narrative lesson when you do that. Your players may likely feel like they’re being punished twice for playing smart. Make sure they feel like the Hut has saved their lives a lot before this maneuver.

[@Blubbermage]

@@ActualChef Just go with the widely accepted ruling that Tiny Hut has no bottom and have a purple worm get hungry

[@sharmelfattakhov5041]

I mean kinda but what are you doing with your action then? Unless they got rid of that rule, you can't cast two spells in one turn, and you're a wizard. You can obviously do a lot more with action that with bonus action but it is not as dramatic as for martial classes. There might be some point in dipping though/

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

01. More spells.....okay good start. 02. Change 1 cantrip per long rest.....Thank you 03. Ritual casting.....okay 04. Scholar....I love it. 05. Memorize...short rest swap great for the versatility. Base of the class seems great so far.

[@Donnendet]

a bunch of little improvements - I'm kinda worried that Wizard will now simply be better than everything else. lol

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

@@Donnendet we we already know the classes aren't balanced and never will be. Im happy about that though. I just want game balance because by 5th level players are just steam rolling everything.

[@Staticsheep28]

​@@DonnendetDon't worry they're nerfing most of the problematic spells that made wizard broken. Plus with the exception of Paladin and maybe rogue I think everyone else got buffed way more than wizard.

[@GenericUser860]

​@@Staticsheep28How do you know problematic spells are getting nerfed? Where did they say so?

[@Staticsheep28]

@@GenericUser860 They had a whole unearthed Arcana about it and the feedback was pretty positive back than. They nerfed a bunch of really powerful spells and buffed some weaker spells. Even adding level up rules to most cantrips that didn't already have it. Maybe not all the changes will go through, but I expect most of them along with some they haven't made public yet.

[@markstruckmeyer9193]

I was a bit worried they would stick to the 4 subclass thing with wizard. I really hope necromancy wizard returns in an updated form at some time.

[@imayb1]

It will. They need to save back some material for the 5.5 versions of Tasha's and Xanathar's, right?

[@billyrigby4839]

I mean, the necromancer kind of sucked though. I hope they make it better because it wasn’t that great imho.

[@Legendarypine]

Agreed

[@vergil_vt]

​@@billyrigby4839true ,you get animate dead for free, get 1 extra minion and there hp go's up depending on your wizard level or was it con?

[@talongreenlee7704]

I LOVE what they’ve done with the illusionist. I’ve never really liked illusion because I felt like I was spending my magic to bluff when I could use it to produce real effects. The fact that you can summon creatures that feel illusory but still have actual stats and do something real fixes so many of the issues I have with illusions.

[@Nobody-wx6rk]

Gotta disagree with the bluffing point. Using magic to bluff, deceive, and trick was the point and should remain so. This is moving away from what an illusion master ought to be. Producing "real" effects defeats the theme. Thankfully that's still the core of the subclass.

[@PsyrenXY]

My issue with the illusion-summoner is that casting spells without a spell slot defaults them to minimum level, so the illusory summons are going to end up getting weaker and weaker as you level

[@bobswag710]

@@Nobody-wx6rkexcept you still have the full capacity to trick, deceive, and fool people. Even better than any other class. You just ALSO get the ability to manifest a portion of the illusion. Getting the ability to manifest an “illusion” that physically interacts with the environment doesn’t reduce the original features.

[@bobswag710]

@@PsyrenXY well… they are illusions. Plus you can always use real spell slots to up cast them

[@Kingmaster64]

It's one of the things that are either very good or really bad depending on your dm

[@StanArctic]

Rest in peace necromancer 😢

[@Shalakor]

I mean, isn't the whole point of the necromancer refusing to let anyone rest in peace?

[@Dudae_]

Good riddance, I say

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

Necromancer steps in to and says "Hello there fellow wizards." Other Wizards said " WE SAID GOOD DAY SIR."

[@daiedalous]

Seems easy enough to homebrew an updated version of Necromancy Savant and slot the old subclass into the new Wizard class. Definitely going to try that in my own games.

[@allgomesareevil6121]

Guess he likes to sleep in, late riser

[@Roxxis666]

It was probably more popular in my local tables, but it's kind of a bummer the necromancer didn't make it into the new book.

[@ChurroMaster]

The PHB subclasses are and will always be 1 doubled down stereotype of the class (evocation) and other common stereotypes (such as illusion).

[@jeffreymonsell659]

​@@ChurroMasterExcept PHB 2014, which had necromancer in it.

[@jacobdriscoll8276]

Gonna really miss the missing schools. Transmutation (the CLASSIC wizard, IMO!), Enchantment, Necromancy (booo!), Conjuration (summoning minions is an illusionist thing now, that's bupkiss!)

[@jasonsumma1530]

as mechanically heavy as it was with the conjuration, it was nice to summon an army of creatures.

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

Envoker - blow stuff up 01. More spells....great 02. Potent cantrip.....thank you dad....i mean Jeremy. 03. Scolpt spell....here comes the boom

[@CandleLight129]

I'm still sad to see the 'Create Spell' feature from the UA gone. Wizards as the official spell authors has always been a thing in D&D and I was really looking forward to having a non-homebrew way of implementing that in-game. Especially since 5e took metamagic away from them.

[@Nihzlet]

Yeah. They set up/worded the ability kinda strangely by making it a spell itself, but I really liked the ability of wizards to alter their spells and create new ones.

[@DramakilzU]

I think a healthy thing for spellcasters in general is adding more ways to expend spell slots other than casting spells, thus allowing players to burn through their spell slots quicker if they Wish. Often Wizard felt gridlocked into expending 1-2 spell slots a round for most subclasses, leaving you with so much unused fuel by the time you Long Rest. Also, I realized getting players to burn through their spell slots faster also speeds up combat (more damage per round means less rounds). I think this is a good change.

[@ParkerJustham]

pretty disappointed in the exclusion of half the schools of magic as subclasses :/

[@GeekMasterGames]

You can still use the old ones from the 2014 rules until the new version of each of those are dropped

[@JayJaded2]

agreed... I'm a Necromancer fan.

[@Fierbreth]

@@GeekMasterGames which was never a good solution at all. You can either use the new and improved and more fun subclasses they bothered updating arbitrarily, or use an old and objectively less optimized (subjectively less fun) subclass. That already sucked for most other classes, but particularly for the Wizard (and the Cleric) that just doesn't work, fundamentally. Sure, most DMs and players will just jury-rig an approximation of the revealed updates for the remaining left out subclasses, but that's far from ideal The main issue with this being an "update" has always been that it will be incomplete until they get around to every single subclass, at the very least.

[@operative2136]

If I had to guess, they're probably still reworking the other half of the subclasses. Frankly, a lot of them had features that were entirely too situational. I would hazard a guess that they're probably gonna take their time to rework them, test them and then release them in later books. They were probably under the gun from Hasbro to get a 2024 product ready, so they probably had to make some hard decisions as to what would make the cut for the new player's handbook.

[@mathbraga159]

Just homebrew. You got a great excuse to buff your favorite subclass

[@ht8602]

I hope they stick to giving classes versatility and utility, then just making them "better"... roleplay and utility is the route to go like the druid and rogue !

[@Manahyde]

They should have just put the school specialization in a feat and used non-school subclasses instead. That way you CAN still flavor your character after a school, but you're not forced into choosing one of the 8 schools as identity. AND you still get a unique style of wizard like Battle Mage or Scribe, that you can then combine/flavor with a school specialization if you want.

[@TheVikingHill]

👏👏👏 I think you’re right. The subclasses just being your school of magic is very simple, uncreative. They are putting the wizard in an “I went to school box.” Which I guess is fine. Sorcerer is maybe where magic subclasses will come. What I really want is a wizard barbarian and way less HP across the board.

[@lukasfraser1411]

Or make school specialization it's own subclass where you can choose one of the 8 schools.

[@Rajellen]

I would have preferred this. Then I could have been bladesinger still with a specialization

[@agent00puffball]

Yeah that way you could have Bladesinger, Scribes, War, and Necromancer as the subclasses. Having them as feats would also allow other classes to specialize in a school. An illusionist Warlock sounds fun as hell.

[@verilian4025]

Yes, this. Taking away 4 sub classes and kind of improving the other 4 is just bs and a money grab for future books.

[@motorollaxoom8589]

A wizard walks into a bar. Roll death saving throw.

[@Lionpigster]

5th level memorized spell... In the CR book Tal'Dorei there was a feat that lets you do this once per day as bonus action and I think that's much better... To have the ability to remember the one crucial spell you are lacking in the heat of the battle and recall its incantation. Having to make a short rest for that feels... underwhelming.

[@mojorn8837]

The play test had it at 1 minute and no one complained

[@Lionpigster]

@@mojorn8837 1 minute would be fine. It's just weird that they mostly tried to get away from short rests with other features and now they give the Wizard something where you need to rest for an hour...

[@mojorn8837]

@@Lionpigster agreed

[@photographydiscourse1185]

These changes seem great - that said, I understand that they are standardizing on 4 sub-clases per class, but it does seem sad that there are no more Enchanters, Transmuters, Conjurers, or Necromancers - seems like a glaring hole when compared to the 2014 rules?

[@coznosis]

They will just put updated versions in expansion books. I doubt they are gone.

[@photographydiscourse1185]

@@coznosis Probably - but it feels like all of these really should be in the Core Rule Book just as they were in 2014 - I understand them trying to standardize on 4 subclasses - but I would have made an exception here for the Wizard that just naturally has 8 sub-classes due to the 8 arcane traditions. Also, not including this in the Core Book leads to contradictions for people that are going to update existing 2014 characters to the new system as there now will be no analogous subclass in the rules for the 4 that were left out. Seems like a decision that was actively made - and I would like to hear the rationale behind this decision, but if it was just that they thought the 4 they included were the best ones and wanted to keep every class to 4 sub-classes then I think this was a bad decision and a mistake. Just my feeling...

[@GeekMasterGames]

You can still use the other schools from the 2014 rules (until they launch a new splatbook with the other schools)

[@mooxim]

Ritual adept 👍makes sense. Was always one of my favourite features of the Wizard class and deserves spotlighting. Scholarly expertise👍 makes sense. My int based rolls were always insane but it never really made sense to me that a bard could be more of a proficient arcanist than any wizard. Switch out a cantrip on long rest👍 Makes sense that a wizard would have those formulas from their level 1 training. Nice to see Cantrip Formulas from TCE has made its way to core rules at level 1. Memorize Spell (switch a prepped spell on short rest)👍makes sense that in an emergency situation, a wizard would be able to prepare a different spell in the middle of the day and not strictly, only at the end of a long rest. I've been wondering how to homebrew this for years. Overhauling the spell school savant features👍 Thank you! A discount for copying spells of your school just meant you were less likely to pick them on level up on the off-chance you get to save some money down-the-road. Getting a spell for free on level up makes so much sense! The Spellbreaker upgrades to Abjurer's Counterspell and Dispel Magic are insane! I've never tried an Abjurer before but it sounds really fun now! Potent Cantrip: please please please say it applies to attack rolls... YES! There were like two f*****g saving throw cantrips for Evokers to use this feature on. This makes so much sense! Phantasmal Creatures 👍Fantastic way to expand the versatility of illusionists and insure we don't miss the Conjurer subclass too much. Also not as dependant on having a DM that will reward your creativity with illusions. Having a section for clarifying rules on illusions is so necessary. Love it! I'm so hyped! (can you tell?)

[@Darlacs]

Time to make my Frieren inspired character I can’t wait.

[@shyer6646]

I've been looking forward to this one. For many years I've aspired to make my dream character, a halfling illusionist. But it has always seemed like an insurmountable goal since it only seems to 'come online' after many levels, added to that the consistent DM response of "oh." when I bring up the idea. I was thrilled to hear illusionist would be included with this, and more so now that I feel like it has gained some of the right sort of support to bring it in line with what everyone else is generally doing, and I'll feel less like I'm simultaneously playing solitaire and asking the DM's permission all the time, with, "Ok... First I cast silent image, then I back it up with a firebolt to enhance the illusion..." Oh, and the bastion concept perfectly allows me to fulfil my character's fantasy without feeling like I'm bogarting the campaign. My bastion shall be a circus and I the ringleader, except, is the circus really there?? Thanks for this!

[@dieserexi274]

Only 4 wizard subclasses is really bad in my opinion. Considering all the amazing options like Necromancer, Bladesinger or Conjurer.

[@peace_love_unity]

JC said in the other video that you can still play all 2014 classes in a 2024 rules campaign just not vice versa.

[@Anegor]

​@@peace_love_unity I mean you can do vice versa all you want, he is just wanting that there is a power difference you will feel

[@Richinnameonly]

Rip conjuration. I guess I'll play 2014 conjurer. But do I still get to use the new spells if I do? No one knows...

[@halfd0rk]

can I request that these videos be added Chapters in the description? easier to refer to for the community, thanks

[@nathanielmarks1754]

The cantrip stuff sounds really great actually.

[@KeianLocke]

damn i really liked malleable illusions

[@skippyzk]

12:59 Abjurant Champion 2.0 Let's go!

[@InsomniaticVampire]

They created ritual adopt because people don't think of wizards as ritual casters. Nice. I also like the flavor of the illusionist/ summoner, and the increased range to illusion spells. Wish the summons came later and they focused a bit more on the illusion part for longer.

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

All four of the wizard sub-classes? We aren't getting all the schools of magic sub classes of wizard? This means they will probably do this to cleric as well. 5.5 players hand book 2 for the rest of the sub-classes. Sad times for cleric and wizard

[@nathans9764]

All the classes get 4 subclasses. Cleric is getting Life, light, trickery, and war.

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

@nathans9764 only getting four feels like I was already tricked. Not so much on the cleric but definitely the wizard. I get it just don't like it.

[@nathans9764]

@@RulesLawyerDnD No argument here. I was hoping to see an improved knowledge cleric and conjuration wizard. Love the themes on both, but the design style could use an update. Too bad for now.

[@RulesLawyerDnD]

@@nathans9764 guess we will wait together.

[@lichanskitrandir]

​@@nathans9764 Ok, let's look on such small selection of domains in setting perspective. I want to play cleric of Mystra (one of the most popular gods in FR setting). What domain should i choose? Life? Light? Certainly not War or Trickery.

[@laduger8278]

So the new level 6 illusionist ability is to use conjuration....mind-blowing

[@wolffangs3641]

Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about the changes mentioned in this video, but we can't forget that there are 4 other schools of magic which were not mentioned here and that worries me a bit.

[@neildoscher9536]

there is no sublcass for them

[@LumenPlacidum]

The others are not in the phb now. Every class has four subclasses.

[@Kimmurial333]

100% they will bring them in other books to promote the new dnd.

[@Eden_jasper]

@@LumenPlacidumthis i think i like. I felt like many of the wizards subclasses were really lackluster and this allows them to focus and strengthen some of the core fantasy archetypes without feeling obligated to fill in options

[@wolffangs3641]

@@Eden_jasper I can definitely see them not wanting to do every school with worry they wouldn’t be as good, but I would second some others’ concern about not having at least a necromancer. This wouldn’t be a breaking point for me, heck my favorite cleric type was the grave cleric which was an add-on later, it would just suck not having the others as options.

[@kidbuu511]

Rip necromancer enchancter conjuror and transmutor

[@Mathenaut]

I really hope that Necromancers get appropriate love. They seem to have become more and more reductive since 3rd edition.

[@jonathansiegel3140]

If an illusion can activate a trap or pick up items, then it isn't an illusion. With ritual being a wizard class feature, does this mean only the wizard can cast spells as a ritual?

[@Manahyde]

My best guess is that the other classes who could before can still cast rituals, but the ritual adept feat explicity states that wizards don't need to have the ritual spell prepared, unlike everybody else, which is something some people missed when it was just in the spellcasting feat.

[@garethnapier2253]

Everyone with ritual spells will be able to cast them as rituals, even 1/3rd casters. Wizards can cast rituals that they haven't prepared though (as long as they have them in their spell book.) That's the difference (even though wizards could do that already!)

[@DimiusG]

Hoping for an updated Conjuration wizard at some point! My current one has a focus on summoning. Seems there might be some juicy new conjuration spells on the way as well!

[@IcarusGames]

So far it seems like every class is just getting a bit better and a bit "more" of their archetypal fantasy, which is great. My only concern is how it will impact encounter building, because they've said the CR of monsters won't be changing, but hopefully we'll see either their stats get a bump to account for the PC power increases, or a change up in the encounter building math to accommodate that. Overall it's all be exciting stuff so far, though!

[@life-destiny1196]

CR in general was always kind of a loose metric, tbh.

[@IcarusGames]

@@life-destiny1196 used in isolation, for sure. If you're building encounters just by CR and not by the actual rules (which rely on XP and conditional modifiers) there's a much greater chance you'll have a borked time. I've been building my encounters strictly by RAW since I started my current 5e campaign and it actually works near-perfectly for me every time. I'm having to make far fewer adjustments and the encounters are behaving exactly as I expected for the most part.

[@michaelcords4006]

So does the wizard base class just stop gaining class features at level 5 - i know spells are the class features but they didnt mention anything about Capstones

[@cameronpearce5943]

I wonder if Wizards will get more spell slots because it sounds like the Druid and other classes will have ways to use their resources to regain spell slots, which is at the end of the day the wizards primary resource

[@Brightside187]

I love wizard so much. My toxic trait is that I quickly fill the wizard slot before anyone else can play them.

[@krackacka]

Mannn I wish I got to see stuff for Conjuration. With all the new crazy teleportation they've got going for archfey warlock and moon druid, I imagine that WotC definitely would've gone ham on juicing up benign transposition. But alas, maybe in a future book??? Along with Transmutation, Enchantment, and Necromancy? They're such flavourful classes. Now I'm scared that my beloved Knowledge Domain cleric won't be included in the four subclasses for cleric. What will they do? Life, Light, War, and Trickery? Pleasepleaseplease Knowledge Domain deserves so much love, it's such a fun subclass but it needs its features juiced up.

[@StSylvester]

Man, I was crossing my fingers the whole time that they'd make Bladesinger a core subclass but I guess we can still use the Bladesinger subclass with the 2024 rules.

[@Rajellen]

I'm with you. My favourite subclass by far

[@billyrigby4839]

It’s one of the only playable wizard builds. And time wizard go brrrr too

[@miraafloyd]

Really hope Transmutation Wizard has been improved significantly. Crazy how the Transmuter Stone didn’t allow Transmutation Wizards to be ageless. Hope Necromancy comes back improved too.

[@Daggoth65]

Only 4 subclasses? No conjuration, necromancer, transmutation, enchantment?

[@Ceaudrious]

No enchanter too

[@psimitar5736]

Every class got four subclasses. Sacrifices had to be made

[@Ceaudrious]

@@psimitar5736 smells like hasbro wants player's handbook 2 money....

[@Daggoth65]

@@Ceaudrious Pisses me off honestly, this is the first time since 3e (pretty sure 2e as well but only played that like twice) that they didn't have all base spell school specializations in a PHB as options.

[@rawrbeez6625]

@@jigui2669but in yesterdays video they said they specifically designed the classes asymmetrically, as in with differing levels of complexity. They did it intentionally. So saying they only have four wizard and cleric subclasses to “keep it fair” is disingenuous at best. It’s a money grab they’re gonna put the other subclasses in other supplements.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

So, are Conjuration, Transmutation, Necromancy, & Enchantment Wizards not a thing in the PHB now?

[@smartalec2001]

They are not. Presumably they'll be in a supplement or a splatbook. The 5.5 equivalent of Xanathar's or Tasha's.

[@kbfrancis7092]

Yes, in a future paid DLC. :D

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Well that’s BS

[@mikefett5989]

I also need a solid transmuter. Ever since the wizards duel from sword in the stone.

[@johnathanmartin1504]

They are making the same mistakes fourth edition did. I don't want to "be able to change cantrips during a short rest" or "apply more resistances", I want to change into monsters, clone myself, travel through time, make myself younger, that sort of thing. There is thus far no Transmuter, which destroys any desire I had to ever get this book. I'm waiting to see if they made the GOOD spells (like shapechange and clone) better or worse. If it's worse I'm done with edition 5.5 (even though I actually like Bastions). "Making sure you feel connected to your favorite school" is completely impossible now since you removed my favorite school: transmutation.

[@Luciacanarias]

pues si quieres hacer todo eso juega una campaña de nivel 20, facil.

[@johnathanmartin1504]

@@Luciacanarias I prefer to do exactly that, unfortunately every D&D group I've been in has stopped playing right around reaching level 20.

[@chowfalp]

Lesser restoration as a bonus action please

[@TheDarkMarionette]

Where’s my Necromancer? I need to go Necromancin dancin!

[@dessamator1420]

Was anything mentioned in the past regarding the other schools of magic that were left out?

[@dessamator1420]

I know it won’t be in the book but did they say they will likely visit those in another book?

[@KodasGarden]

damn Illusionists get more conjuration abilities than conjurers! (conjurers don't get any because they aren't in this book)

[@HowtoRPG]

I don't see the wizard getting simpler.

[@IgnarXela]

Will this illusion glossary include whether the illusion is negated by truesight or not? The number of times I've had to explain how phantasmal force works to a DM. :(

[@campo957]

I can't wait to read through the new player's handbook, everything I saw 'till now seems really great, but I am a little weirded out the abjurer was the one considered the wealing of the wizards: maybe I misenterpreted what was said, what about the illusionist? It's always been my favourite type of wizard, but damn if it's underwelming compared to its counterparts. I am happy the illusionist got some love, but I feel like the problem never was with the illusionist's ability to cast illusions, but with the illusion spells themself, I mean, each of your spell is a a save or die spell, a luck roll on the foe's part and you are rendered utterly useless.

[@kingmidas430]

I dont think this will ever change but its always odd to me that wizards are all about spell variety but they dont have access to all of the spells like Cleric or Druid would. Would it really be that bad if wizards had a full spell book?

[@Caine1277]

We missed the rituals part in 5th ed because you made it almost an hour to cast anything. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[@DanTheYoutubeAddict]

Does anyone know if they will release an updated Order of the Scribes soon after this comes out?

[@edheldude]

Only Mystra knows.

[@drzander3378]

@DanTheKZbinAddict Spot on! A 2014 wizard is largely nerfed without his spell focus and spellbook. The Order of the Scribes wizard removed those vulnerabilities. It's a real shame that the 2024 wizard won't by default have a means of countering those weaknesses. I suspect that even after the 2024 PHB is released, lots of players will still want to play a 2014 Order of Scribes wizard.

[@DanTheYoutubeAddict]

@@drzander3378 correct. My main reason for wanting to play Order of the Scribes is their ability to just passively change a spell's damage type to get around resistance/immunity if you have some forethought and learn new spells much more easily.

[@viennasavage9110]

I'm a little disappointed by Illusion wizard not doing *illusion* things.

[@blindedinchains829]

Projected Ward on Bear Barbarian gonna go crazy.

[@shodan2926]

Why did you nerf Wizard's 18th level feature? "Choose a level 1 and a level 2 spell that are in your spellbook and that have a casting time of an action. " Original Spell Mastery is much better, because I could use Shield, Misty Step and other useful spells with this feature, which cannot be used with nerfed Spell Mastery now. I would keep the original text: "Choose a 1st-level wizard spell and a 2nd-level wizard spell that are in your spellbook."

[@Talsbynians]

they didn’t really seem to solve the funky design philosophy behind Wizard subclasses. Instead of making them more generalized like War Mage or Spellblade they’re now just lopping off half the Wizard identities… good luck if you wanna play a Wizard that likes to conjure a bunch of things, or a transmuter who bends the physical world.

[@cobblepot9585]

Im decently new to DnD, is this supposed to be a rework of some 5E stuff or like that whole new edition that was coming out, think it was supposed to be called 1st edition or whatever?

[@-Jesus-Kun-]

warlock 1 can change 3 cantrips and 2 rituals every short rest tho with the book of the chain invo unless that was nerfed

[@daiedalous]

The new Abjurer sounds amazing

[@Abelhawk]

I wish they had showcased a few of the new spells.

[@CavemanToaster]

So the illusionist is just the conjurer now? Uhhh

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

5:29 - What is that three-headed alien in gnome caps? Also watch out Mordenkainen, there is an IMP behind you!

[@ActualChef]

This is reigniting my constant desire to play a Wizard. Can’t wait to build a new Illusionist.

[@Mark-ki7ic]

Are the going to increase the number of spells that can be cast as Rituals?

[@bobmcbob49]

Everything can be cast as a ritual now

[@Witchlover]

BUT do wizards and sorcerers get more than a d6 for hit points? 🤔

[@Spoonbot]

How would it help my Wizard die to 1d4 emotional damage if he has decent health?

[@emulationemperor8924]

Dang, Colby from d4 is going to be sad that the Bladesinger doesn't make a return. I wonder how many years it's going to take before the subclass is reintroduced. Oh well. Still loving the content we are getting from this PHB

[@LordNerfherder]

Really exciting to use dispel magic as a bonus action until you realise you are stuck with cantrips for your action. This was almost fantastic. You should allow a levelled spell to be cast after this bonus action.

[@billyrigby4839]

I think the reason why it’s not is because thats highly unbalanced.

[@Loswaith]

So 4 sub-classes that are essentially different facets of a collegiate wizard. Kinda hoping they were gonna go a bit more varied.

[@EvanHofforth]

If you guys added guaranteed access to the upcoming virtual tabletop test I’d preorder both the digital and physical copies right now. Just saying.

[@bryantursk7637]

With all these class videos coming out for 2024 rules... I hope they will have one about multiclassing.

[@fiveraccoonsinatrenchcoat527]

If the new book is backward compatible, why not update the other 4 subclasses? They’re still gonna exist and it doesn’t seem as fair if they’re only buffing half of them while the other 4 are getting left behind. I know they’re trying to do a whole “each class has only 4 subclasses in the core book” thing, but it’s still sad to see them remove the other subclasses. All the new stuff seems so cool and I hope that they’ll add in buffed versions of necromancy, conjuration, transmutation, and enchantment to a separate book later on.

[@Baraz_Red]

The new Illusionist is dope. It will certainly rebecome popular, like in the good old days of the Gnome Illusionists ! (AD&D 1e and 2e)

[@Arkidisey]

Dropping malleable illusions for becoming a generic summoner is a huge mistake though 😕 literally the strongest feature aside from the capstone of 2014 Illusionist.

[@Baraz_Red]

@@Arkidisey Well, I agree it steps over the Conjuror, which is not even mentioned in this interview I think, sigh. But logically DMs should make that new Illusionist feature malleable... (EDIT: maybe I misunderstood you, because they specify here that you can of course change freely what the illusionary summon looks like).

[@Baraz_Red]

@@МаратГабдуллин-б5ф True. Teaantmonk made me realize that yesterday also.

[@jonathansiegel3140]

Can you please stop changing rules because of people don't read the rules?

[@nathans9764]

What rule did they change because people weren't reading it?

[@Teodor_Ripka]

Why did you guys push subclasses to lvl 3? It makes no sense story wise that you don’t know your expertise right from the get go. Like warlocks and clerics don’t even know their deity till lvl 3???

[@willjackson5885]

I think you always knew your school/deity/etc. Story-wise level 3 is just the point where you start being able to do things most other members of your class can't. Going from a "wizard who uses illusion magic" to a "wizard who's illusion magic is better than other wizards"

[@beajoh]

Are the other four Arcane Traditions maybe being folded into the Sorcerer? Otherwise, WTF? Why did Wizard need subclasses? No Necromancers, no Enchanters, no Transmuters, no Conjurers?

[@edwardg8912]

I’m hoping the illusion section is great. It is so inconsistent with DMs. Like if you are running from some guards and illusion some trash in an alley over yourself, do they call get checks to try and detect you? Makes illusions a lot worse if they do.

[@PsyrenXY]

Why wouldn't they get checks though. Those checks don't have to be easy

[@daviddalrymple2284]

The existing rules for spells like Minor Illusion and Major Image are pretty clear and explicit: any creature can use its action to examine the illusion to see if it's real. If they interact with it physically, they succeed automatically. Otherwise, they have to make an Intelligence check against the caster's spell save DC. So the only thing that's left to DM discretion is if the person would be predisposed to examine the illusion closely. And that's one of the eternal dilemmas of DMing: what would my NPCs know and/or suspect? I mean, what if you were hiding in a real pile of trash? Would the guards have any reason to search through that trash or to stare at it for more than six seconds? It's the same issue regardless of the illusion magic.

[@edwardg8912]

@@daviddalrymple2284 Yeah, the issue is that in the hiding in regular trash example, how it SHOULD work is you make a stealth check against the passive perceptions of the guards. A good DM shouldn’t have every guard using their action to search every round once the PC starts hiding, because that is meta. In the same way, I think that illusions in this way should be a spell casting check against passive perception. It is meta if a DM has a creature expend an action investigating if he wouldn’t have done that had that had there been no illusion.

[@edwardg8912]

@@daviddalrymple2284 In other words, I don’t like how illusion magic works because the only time a DM ever uses the action to investigate is when there is actually an illusion there. You never have a guard burning a turn investigating if there is no illusion.

[@pabloespindola535]

what about the other schools? what if I wanna build a necromancer?

[@LordNerfherder]

Why arent all level 20 abilities added at lvl 7-10 but weaker and scaling up to 20? Why have a freaking super thematic amazing skill come online here. Why add that frustrating and bad game design there at fantasy levels? Please help me understand why the level 20 things like angel in vengeance paladin is a level 20 skill. That is what we want to play. Your game doesnt work on level 20. Your written campaigns dont last until level 20. Our dm is tired and quits before level 20. Why? Why is this not the priority?

[@charleswilson5773]

money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money

[@nerdyhexel307]

As a Necromancer main I am most displeased but this base stuff looks good.

[@sunoiexe]

New Monk when?

[@verilian4025]

Gotta say I was pretty disappointed with this one. I’ve loved all the others so far, and to be fair, there is nothing inherently wrong with this… but honestly you just improved 4 subclasses that were already good and ignored the 4 that actually needed help. I was really hoping you’d do something interesting like maybe make school specialty part of the core wizard class and then give us 4 actual subclasses. Maybe war mage, order of scribes, blade singer, and then something brand new. And then your school specialty could be part of the wizard class. So you could have 2 war mages but one is an evoker destroying the battlefield, but then maybe another is a necromancer raising the fallen to keep on fighting. Instead you gave us 4 schools that were already good and sure, you made them better. Left out the other 4 so that you can force us to buy another book in a year with the missing 4… except you might not even give us all 4 in that. And you’re going to do the same with the cleric. It’s a slap in the face money grab dressed up with improvements to something that was already good.

[@reeceandben4876]

Hhmmmm cantrips changing per long rest sounds like it should be a sorcerer trait, not the wizard. Wizards learn their spells through study. Sorcerers have inate magic, so it makes more sense for the sorcerer to be able to change cantrips, not the wizard.

[@tornadoallie89]

What about subclasses like Order or Scribes that aren't tied to a specific school of magic?

[@jacopofrega1349]

The Memorize Spell feature added so much more versatility as it was presented in the playtest, 1 minute studying at any time. Being tied to once after a short rest makes it a totally forgettable feature, which leaves the wizard deprived of most of the "new goodies feeling" that other spellcasters got. Being able to simply cast the long duration buffs without wasting prepared spells on them was such a welcome and unique QoL. Still my favorite class, and most likely it will still end up being the most impactful spellcaster of the game, but it lost a lot.

[@Skrighk]

Does anyone know what the song playing before this started was??

[@ravelqueen]

So order of the scribes is dead pretty much? Because they won't be getting the free spells as they aren't tied to a school AND everyone gets the spellbook as focus perk so....

[@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo]

Still waiting on the cleric updates to see if the War Cleric is actually good

[@KynElwynn]

"Players weren't useing rituals" maybe becuase most rituals just plain weren't exciting? Having a feature that doesn't get much use (like the discount on price of spell scribing) doesn' mean you need to highlight it better. It needs to be better overall

[@Spoonbot]

Nah ritual casting is great, it's basically free extra abilities for the class that you don't even have to prepare

[@junfusionseven9431]

13:28 so if i cast a spell like a bonus action that means in my action if i want to cast a spell it has to be a cantrip?

[@Vhalan53]

Conjurer, necromancer, enchanter? I really feel like we’re missing important spells and archetypes. Am I missing something, did all of these spells just shift to other schools? I have a haunting feeling this is just future dlc now

[@jaspermooren5883]

I love the fact that wizards now naturally can have expertise in Arcana, it was kinda weird that most Arcane Tricksters were better in Arcana than the Wizard.

[@SoulWhiteAngel]

No more enchantment, Transmutation, or conjuration?

[@UrbanAnimal97]

i would love to see an reworked necro in the next book.... also scribe wizard... give me that back too lol. i dont even need scribe to be reworked i had fun with it as is so.

[@dezertdragon872]

Weird.. so Vecna, a terrifyingly powerful necromancer who attained Lichdom and Godhood is unfurled for the 50th D&D Anniversary but... "Necromancer" didn't make it into the revised PHB?

[@johnnamorton6744]

So Wizard is most likely my second favorite class (after cleric). I have had plenty of wizards from Cowley the knight transmuter, to Bede the Dwarf Transmuter, Cyrus the necromancer (who hates undead), Myron the Goliath diviner, and Galin the human Sword Mage Enchanter, to Tim. His name isn't Tim, he hates the name Tim, Tim was the name of his rival and bully, but none the less young Tim hated evocation so much he refused to learn it, preferring illusion. My current wizard however is a Tortal evoker whose will have no problem giving you the cold shoulder. This sailor turned evoker almost became an illusionist but the sailors feared magic except in ship to ship battle so evoker it was. Scholar... Knowledge cleric feature ... I don't think that's all that good. Memorize spell... Great utility, not so good for combat. The evoker would likely switch out knock or detect magic. Three free spells a level awesome. Getting spells is hard in game with some DMs. Potant cantrip sounds better that helps Sounds like not much change ... ---------------------- Improved illusion without verbal spells... Very powerful. I might have to build an illusionist. Dissent spell for illusion good... Minor illusion bonus action ... Powerful. BUT you can't cast a bonus actions and a slot spell, or has that rule changed? More creatures on the battlefield (GM in me just cringed) Illusion self ... Ok I guess.