Colorado Avalanche have disaster Game 4 against Dallas Stars

The Avs were horrible in Game 4, worse than the stars in all facets. An extremely dissapointing game especially for the likes of MacKinnon and Rantanen.
Intro - 0:00
Embarrassing - 1:20
Do you play Jones again? - 16:30
It starts with your top guys - 17:35
Small Geo critique - 21:00
Special teams - 23:20
Positives? - 30:35
Quick tangent - 34:00
Superchats - 37:43
Wrapping up - 46:55
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[@rustyshackleford3514]

I think Johnston taking Makars lunch money had a huge effect on Colorados psyche.

[@travisbrinkley4808]

The team hasn’t been the same without Landeskog on the bench/ice. Flat out.

[@breakaway2x]

Tragedy the dynasty was destroyed when we lost Landy then Kadri, Burakovsky, Compher, Newhook, etc...now we lost Francouz, LOC, and Val. Decimated team. Should have won a few more cups.

[@davidmunson8780]

Newhook?

[@Kasanovasosa]

Girard and Georgiev have been playing great… poor guys playing great hockey and the rest of the team doesn’t even show up

[@seancolorado]

i know dnvr is interactive but i like how much Eric just focuses on the game and not on people's comments

[@rogerwatts-db1le]

Val gave the Avs an excuse to lose two seasons in a row, and they keep taking it.

[@augustwest5207]

The Avs season will end not with a bang but a whimper…

[@user-tz7jj7bl6q]

Man, rough day for the Avs on and off ice… sad. Disappointing… for this to be the way Val goes out… after the inspiring career be built in Colorado. God he was fun to see get good and then great. This hurts. And instead of trading mikko for a top goalie and using the remaining on a Drouin contract we hopefully can sign Drouin now. He’s the guy to step into Val’s role. God, what a team with them both tho… what a bummer he’s out. Hope he gets well and finds a way to keep focused and can be there for those who depend on him. Put in the work! Time flies!

[@maxv658]

Trade Raantanen? Oh boy. He's had a bad playoff this year, for sure, but I don't know why you trade a 100+ point 30-40+ goal guy who is usually great in the playoffs for a goalie of all positions. I guess people are just upgrading their "trade Girard" refrain to "trade Raantanen" this year.

[@user-tz7jj7bl6q]

@@maxv658 na, it was initially for a better goalie and to keep Drouin. But Georgie is playing just fine now, we’ll see how next season goes. I like mikko. But for 11-12m a year I’d like him to be a much better two way player. I think Val or Drouin could step into his place. Sure, they’re both not quite as polished but Val was just getting to his insane game here in the playoffs and Drouin still has room to grow. Look at Val 4-5 years ago.. Drouin is same age tho so not that much time to get to peak. I’m sure management has thought it though. When you’re setting come back win records it’s a very bad sign.. I’m not the coach etc so it doesn’t matter haha. But yeah, I could see Drouin signing for 5/6m a year now. So a longer term 5/6 year deal would be insane value if he plays well. But with geo playing well no need. With Val out we could maybe sign Drouin anyway. So ya, probably keep mikko haha.

[@AlmostParadise_RK]

Have you guys looked at the salary cap when you say the Avs won't get rid of Mikko? That dude is gonna want at least 12M on that next deal. You know what happens to any chance at any sort of depth on the team then? And who cares if he has 100 points in the regular season if this is the kind of playoffs you get from him? Lehky's Dad was right!

[@hotcarl3854]

Reality is Avs should have been swept. Got lucky game 1.

[@levidecroce6036]

And got unlucky in game 3.

[@maxv658]

I don't think so. The Avs were the better team in Game 1 and in game 3 for the most part. Whether it's game 1 or 3 they lose, the series is still 3-1, which I think is exactly how it should be no matter how you slice it.

[@Andrew-zp7jy]

@@maxv658you’re delusional bud Dallas gave away game 1 and the Avs have been outplayed since

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

@@Andrew-zp7jybrother, the Avs gave away game 2 and 4. games 3&4 were the only ones where Dallas wasnt scrambling tryna contain the Avs for the most of the game. Sad seeing them crumble mentally, so much potential wasted.!

[@pmilz12]

I do put a lot of blame on Bednar for this performance. His even keel personality is great most of the time, but he needed to flip a table in the locker room in the 1st intermission and put Mikko on the 4th line to send a message.

[@benblotsky9574]

3 series against 3 different Deboer teams. All losses. At what point is this not a coaching/systems issue? The players are frustrated becauee they aren't even being given a chance to succeed.

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

The avalanche play like that all year long to get really hot and then they play really crappy and then they get hot and then they play crappy. That's what I noticed.

[@NorthTownVegas]

The fact that this Avs team is playing like this with the altitude advantage at any given game they play is monumentally embarrassing

[@levidecroce6036]

The “altitude advantage” is not that big.

[@NorthTownVegas]

@@levidecroce6036 an advantage nonetheless.... that makes a difference in the playoffs

[@marie2274]

The highlight of the game was watching Duchene stick go flying. Why did the Avs play better against the Jets but can't find the net in this series. I was at the game, and fans around me showed no compassion for Nichushkin in conversations. I will keep him in my prayers. Thank you, AJ, for your comment it was on point.

[@billyblanton8042]

Goaltending and defense wins championships 👏 🙌 💪

[@jefferylittrell1974]

Because the Stars are not the jets they’re if not the best a top team in the league rn

[@marie2274]

@@jefferylittrell1974 The Stars can't beat the Rangers or the Panthers. Won't happen. Thry won't even beat the Canucks or the Oilers.

[@jefferylittrell1974]

@@marie2274 ok you’re just a salty Colorado fan and you’re just mad because the stars are better than your team and I’m telling you right now they’ll at least make the finals

[@bubbaharrod2530]

The jets aren’t shit. They are regular season team like Colorado

[@cybernigel]

I think Lauren Boebert had better stick control than the entire team tonight.

[@selfaccountable3464]

Insert obligatory joke about Gov. Jared Polis here and his stick control tendencies......

[@andysmith719]

Not being able to talk about Val takes away from what happened in this game. Some times you just have to suck it up and have the difficult discussion...... AJ not even willing to talk about Bo Byrum tho lmao

[@superdopehiphop]

Objectively the way Aves played and Stars played they’re lucky to not have been swept. They’re fortunate to still have a chance. Down 6-0 after four 1st periods is almost always a death sentence through 4 games. Down 3-0 Down 4-0 Down 1-0 Down 3-0 If you start first 4 games of a series like that you’re gonna get swept or down 3-1 period. I actually think they’ll play well game 5 bc they’re due, but Dallas deserves to win this series at this point clearly.

[@levidecroce6036]

They were the better team in game 3.

[@superdopehiphop]

@@levidecroce6036 probably but still down 1-0 after first period. Whoever scores first in NHL playoff games historically wins at least 65% of the time (I forget the exact number it may be higher than that).

[@Andriig75]

Avs

[@Alexander-lc7dx]

Stars Fan here. Prayers up for your bro Val 🙏

[@TroyerCastor]

This series should have been over at this point. I hope, they lose tomorrow in a fashion style....but no dirty win just to give everyone false hope

[@lesleychisholm9326]

Eric I wondered the same... maybe multiple players aren't well. Cale did not look himself! I know they'd play through most sicknesses but perhaps something nasty is going through the team?! No ones going to use it as an excuse or let the media know.

[@thecasualchemist-S]

The trial for the canada junior team is ramping up. Makar was in no way personally involved, but I wonder if he's been called to testify against his former teammates. If so, I imagine that could be weighing heavy on him.

[@ZacharyMiller-zk1zy]

They don’t want it

[@MichaelPressler970]

Its time to retool, Nichushkin cant handle success, Gabe isn't coming back, and our goaltending is abysmal.

[@texasblessed8270]

Seriously? Georgeive has been awesome ,every game would be a blowout without him...and I'm a Stars fan

[@jarodforbes1207]

There has been a huge hole in this team for 2 years now. The Captain has been gone and its a Captain who leads by example. For anyone who has played sports, you know not having your leader playing in the game hurts and for some players its what they need, if the majority of players just needed a pep talk a coach you wouldnt need a player leader (Captain). But when you play a game that has that you start to need that to be motivated and inspired. Half of the BS that has gone on since winning the Cup is because the Captain is not on the ice. If Gabe cant come back its time to get a C in the locker room. It does not look like there is one right now so you might have to go looking for one. Also, they should have gotten Val off the team last summer after that crap that is so secret we still do not know what is going on. Its a Pro sports team, him leaving in the PLAYOFFS should have been publicly addressed. Again without a C on the team, it kills us.

[@dinicti]

I think it is over

[@michaelangst6078]

Yes, gbame 4 is officially over. Game 5 is wed

[@DavidJackson-fq9fn]

Avs getting murdered in the face-off circle

[@dereks1848]

Avs are beating themselves out there. Its not the "high powered" Dallas Stars or Deboer outcoaching. Its the avs playing terrible hockey.

[@cowboyschad5x778]

Couldn’t be that we are just better. That would be impossible.

[@TJ_Loves2fish]

​@@cowboyschad5x778 The first stage of grief is denial. Let him have it. He'll come around when Dallas wins the cup.

[@cruz92895]

​@@cowboyschad5x778Dallas isn't good enough to completely delete the Avs from multiple games. Dallas isn't good enough to keep 140 points mackinnon from making a single shot until the end of period 2. Get real. Y'all may be the better team, and your strength certainly contributed to these atrocities on the ice, but the Avs are the main reason they're losing as hard as they are.

[@bronsonloftin2802]

@@TJ_Loves2fish Dallas doesn’t look that good. They just look good because they played two inconsistent teams. The only real challenge they’ll have is against a team from the East.

[@texasblessed8270]

​@@cruz92895have you ever looked at the Stars players stats? They have 2 guys who scored 30 goals this season and they have EIGHT guys with over 20 goals. They have 4 scoring lines if you haven't noticed. And their kids (Johnston/Stankoven) are pretty good. Then their defensemen are no slouch. Tanev, Heiskenen and Harley are #1 defensemen on other teams,plus Sutter and Lindell. Oh and then there's Oettinger who's an all star goalie....but yeah,your 3 guys are better than all of that I mentioned above...."the Stars aren't good" my azz

[@mrpurple33]

I hope Val gets the help he needs. Having said that.. the team has to find a way to terminate his contract.

[@dallastx214]

As a Stars fan i have to say that the rain Da6 let Nichuskin go was maybe cuz if this. Ever since he was a rookie here he was constantly in the sports report that he was out for spent reasons everytime. But come on Av's fans ya still have a great team! I've been a fan since 96 and was happy when they won the cup. This recent cup was awesome also so I still believe in the Av's as having a good season next yr. But as for this yr I need my Stars too close them out. I have a hard time when millionaires go into rehab because all that money and resources they have is a TON more than ppl out in the streets that have drug problems. Js. Anyway, good luck Av's.

[@maxv658]

Man, this series really brought the dregs of society out in full force. Such a shame. Watching this game I said in the second period that the Avs looked like they just didn't care, but I changed my mind. The Avs looked like a team that was distracted. Bednar said it himself, it's not an excuse to lose and that's true and I am certainly not saying it's OK, but it's understandable. I find it hard to believe they lose in 5, but it wouldn't surprise me given the deep hole they are in. Series isn't over of course, but boy, really steep hill to climb. Really hope Nichuskin gets the help he needs and is able to lead a better life with or without hockey. Hockey doesn't matter at this point honestly. EDIT: Also, all these Stars fans talk a lot of shit for cheering for a team that has won one Stanley Cup in the franchise's history 25 years ago.

[@gaetanodetorrice5555]

Actually the series should be over already after that 3 nothing lead and then we lose. In the first game.

[@thaoandtony]

Anyone that is addicted or is close to an addict knows that he needs to lose his team . The addict needs loss to recover . The other players deserve to compete in the cup they’ve dreamed about since age 5 without dealing with the horror and trauma of addiction. Once is hopeful but twice in a row is hopeless , it really is. It can’t go on any longer. He needs to do the right thing if he wants to recover , it’s life and death situation for him and he really needs to resign for himself , for the team, and for the franchise and fans. You don’t keep hoping with an addict this bad, you need to remove him from the situation - it is not working . For his health, you have to end this situation now .

[@darenlobben4707]

Dumb comment and shows everyone that you know nothing about being an addict or living with addict in your life. Alex need support and love and trust from the people closest to them to get through their darkest times.

[@DEIVION212]

Avs once again didn't show up, but tonight at least they have an excuse. Fans are being abhorrent with Val, do fucking better, be fucking better. Play off hockey is one of the only things keeping me alive this year, I don't want the Avs out in round 2, but wishing harm on Val for being an addict, ISN'T ok. EVER. Thanks to DNVR for all you do, people have been awful to y'all tonight too, made an already shit night way worse, thanks for trying to be a bright spot for us Aj, Eric and Nate (And everyone else too, just you 3 are on cam tonight lol)

[@MichaelPressler970]

They have to quit wasting Makar and Mackinnons primes on shithead players that only show up half the time (Nichushkin, Georgiev)

[@randybrandt6459]

Georgiev was the only reason they were still in the game in the first period.

[@augustwest5207]

Funny how the 2001 team overcame the SHOCKING news that Peter Forsberg was out for the playoffs- difference all the alpha males & leadership on that team.

[@petrpumpkineater]

the 2024 team has dealt with more than just one injury. Seems more like the 03-04 roster to me.

[@maxv658]

"Alpha males." Give me a fucking break. Different time, different era, different team. Not remotely the same situation.

[@Ruggz17]

That locker room had Joe Sakic, Ray Bourque, Adam Foote, Rob Blake, Patrick Roy, Hejduk to name a few. This current roster has a 40 year old Parise playing top 6 minutes. Little bit different depth situation

[@augustwest5207]

That was my point. With the exception of Mack this team has nothing

[@bronsonloftin2802]

@@augustwest5207 That team was a REAL stack. This team doesn’t have near the amount of firepower that team had. This Avs team needs something.

[@thekidcomn5938]

The management needs to look in the mirror. They run this team with so much secrecy. Val SCREWED them last year, and yet they circled the wagon and were quiet about what happened in Seattle. Maybe there needs to be honesty and clarity.

[@josephtylerdc9830]

The avz just really arent that good.. this series is over. Sorry gjys. Great listen tho.

[@Andriig75]

You drunk?

[@josephtylerdc9830]

@@Andriig75 okay.. maybe I was when i wrote that. 😂

[@caddrafter48]

34:00 I bet you kept the superchat tho

[@levidecroce6036]

33:06 Which people did you “get rid of”? Dislike.

[@korhil3579]

Wait... you're going to dislike the pod? Because someone wants to be a low life scum ? Fuck me avs fan..be better. What a joke

[@slimsmcgill]

Lmao the change in tone rolling into the Toyota ad. Golly they looked baaaad, I’m going with the Val news and illness analysis as the reason.

[@breakaway2x]

Please put in Justus Annunen. The team will flip 180 and start playing better, I guarantee it. Watch.

[@wandah1297]

34:54 isn’t nichushkin the one that needs to go to therapy? avs are completely falling apart, from management to players to fans lol

[@billyblanton8042]

Yall showed up to the all you can eat shrimp at red lobster and they wonder why they going out of buiness

[@cowboyschad5x778]

Was that in the second period?

[@toddblack9043]

Avalanche in 6, some said 5??? The woman on this show tried telling y’all!

[@cmpalmer]

Shit, some were saying 4 after game 1.

[@cowboyschad5x778]

Go Stars!

[@DADDYLONG-uo6yf]

GO STARS. AND Y'ALL GO SEE GYM.

[@marie2274]

If you think the Stars will win the Stanley Cup, that won't happen.

[@missstar219]

@@marie2274better chances than your team 😹

[@marie2274]

@@missstar219The Stars won't beat the Rangers or the Panthers. Maybe they won't get that far, against the Oilers or the Canucks..

[@missstar219]

@@marie2274yes they will LOL you’re just bitter

[@marie2274]

@@missstar219 Not bitter. Have you watched the Rangers or the Panthers. Both are really good teams.

[@SpartanNation112]

Y’all really thought this one line team would work? They got absolutely dogged at home. Go Stars!