Do All Smash Ultimate Players Think The Same?

[@EEvisu]

I filled in for Leo, and I regret NOTHING I said!

[@slickricky769]

Any time EE is in a video I click I’m here for his hot takes and even more for the Leo glazing 🔥

[@nanobotics]

@@EEvisu the goat 🐐

[@caydenoneal7682]

GOATED

[@big-wade]

I love Leo, but this is a solid fill in. EE da goat

[@HComfy]

HE TOOK A STOCK OFF LEO

[@luigisuper4143]

Tweek was so passionate about not being passionate about playing smash.

[@RuneTacticss]

Bro plays Diddy I don't blame him 💀💀💀

[@elitecombine5373]

Diddy changes a man. 💀

[@takeiteasy1133]

Lmao

[@eliotvega5823]

LOL yes

[@pcarnavvvvv]

Tweek is trauma dumping in this video 😭

[@TheKABE09]

Fr bro, he acted like that kid from Meet the Robinsons

[@chiliandcornbread09]

TWEEEEEEEEK

[@ForzasPanda]

I fucking feel him though 😭

[@MasterAbeer101]

I love the passion icl 😭that's my dripped out goat right there

[@WesleyFiles]

Tweek for the last three years.

[@vintagefalcon3974]

This man tweek needs a new smash game asap

[@E_Fig05]

I can't believe Luminosity sent Marss, Tweek, EE, and Void into the backrooms to discuss Smash Bros. opinions.

[@utjason35]

Yall need to get a team therapist for Tweek

[@ninjabobbob]

Boohooo lil bro crying over a party game

[@jakelowk3y793]

@@ninjabobbob ay bro thats his job tho kinda different lol. He literally said he thinks of it as a job in the vid

[@ninjabobbob]

@@jakelowk3y793 then he can go get a real job. (He never will)

[@shalaSHASKA09mm]

damn, this video is by fa the best you guys have ever produced, this feels way more "real" than the rest of the "content"

[@Crackey75]

Strongly Agree

[@Animatix19]

That's exactly how I felt. The statements here have more depth and induce a lot more thought. Not like, for the lack of better term, "bland" questions that give incentive to single word answers with no real elaboration.

[@elitecombine5373]

I feel like a lot of issues they have with their videos are because they lack interesting narratives or are as creative as they could be (Not trying to talk trash just feel like there are other areas they could be going for). Like Leo and Marss playing with hotdog hands was weird. Interesting concepts are what Panda did where they did quizzes, or made them play creative game modes that they would make for the players, like Kirby golf. In this case I think it would be interesting to see them ask the players creative prompts. They don't have to be all in a group either. Telling Mars a prompt for him to do on his stream (his own time to do). It could be something like, "How would you rework Captain Falcons, ZSS, etc." " You are not the developer of Smash Ultimate what characters and game modes are you adding? You can only add 20 characters with 5 only being third parties and 3 game modes only."

[@andrewcass9177]

I agree I’m MUCH more interested in this video than the other recent content of theirs that I watched

[@Saxologic]

Why the quotes around "content" 😭

[@adamakinze]

my boy tweek trauma dumping over only playing 10 hours of smash a week with the dramatic lighting and the violins, and reminiscing of skipping meals over grinding smash 4, I got tears in my eyes

[@wave4024]

tweek got that fit ON tho

[@Chris-dy1cb]

Nahhhhhh 😂

[@DrSwazz]

That’s the white frat boy build

[@TwinHacari]

We see the fit tweek quit hitting the off guard

[@varunnaik7015]

11:35 “You have a tattoo man” LOL. Why have I never known Marss has a ZSS tattoo

[@im_Spade_]

You ain't heard? Breh

[@varunnaik7015]

@@im_Spade_ im a relatively new smash fan

[@MasterAbeer101]

Yep! He has the Chozo Emblem in one of his arms I believe

[@TehWhiteTiger]

Tweek is a perfect example to show how even something you love becomes a chore when it's your job.

[@lasagnahog7695]

Entertainers/creators should have to rotate into a service industry job for a time every few years to remind them how good they have it. And that's not me being critical of anyone, I think the perspective would genuinely help to appreciate having a job like streamer and/or pro player.

[@TwinHacari]

His fault, buddy camps like no other 🏕️

[@ink200mm]

@@TwinHacariwe have sonix bro 😭

[@HComfy]

We see the fit, Tweek.

[@ninjabobbob]

We also see how fat Marss got sheesh

[@andrewg.3281]

As a current college student with a switch, I can confirm that Ultimate IS a great party game. The single player is barebones and the there's a lot of problems competitively, but it is easily the best party game of the smash games. The huge amount of characters is a nightmare competitively, but is amazing in a party setting. You'll get a nice variety from people picking their mains to people who see minecraft steve or cloud strufe and think it's cool to play as them. Also knowledge-checking your friends who don't play as much is really fun. Spiking someone with luigi's down taunt, putting snake's c4 down when everyone is too distracted to notice, cargo throwing off the edge as dk, just camping as jigglypuff. There's so many weird gimmicks that are just more fun in a party. Plus, theres so many modes in Ultimate that shine at a party. Special smash, stage builder, squad strike, 8 player smash, smashdown, fs meter, even the tourney mode. The tourney mode is pretty terrible if you want to have an even somewhat professional tournament, but when you're playing with friends and want to have a spur of the moment tournament, the dumb little single-elimination tourney is great so you don't have worry about organizing a tournament and just want to play for a bit. Then the switch itself adds so much too. It's a handheld so you can easily bring it along anywhere to play it. And it's Nintendo's best selling console behind the ds, so odds are people will have it and can bring controllers for more people to play. And even if you don't, the joycons work as two extra controllers. Yeah, it's gonna suck for those two people that have to play on sideways joycons, but if the options are to play with the shitty controller, or to not play at all, the joycons are a nice option to have.

[@Aaron-kr5vg]

@@andrewg.3281 I completely agree. I spent the first 4 years of the game only enjoying it competitively. I would only have fun when playing 1v1s, I’d practice combos in training mode regularly, and I would go to locals to improve. At a certain point, it was more frustrating to lose than satisfying to win, so I stopped playing the game entirely. After over a year, I finally played it again with some friends. We turned items on for the first time ever and chose stages like Zelda’s temple or even custom ones. Let me tell you it was so refreshing to experience the casual side of the game. There are so many cool stages and items that allow for funny interactions that aren’t otherwise possible. It was the most fun we had playing the game since its release. It’s important to understand that the game is an amazing party game that just so happens to also be competitive. Not the other way around.

[@Dougbert]

Take a shot every time you say party

[@TwinHacari]

Ults a great competitive game. I find only the most boring players dislike it. Neither tweek nor mars are very exciting players. Most likely from their plaque perspective.

[@erickalvarez6486]

6:32 Tweek is right, we can have a tournament with a bunch of nobodies but with Light, Miya, Acola, Sparg0, Sonix, and Leo, that tournament could be an A tier, since there is only 6 good players which will of course be in top 8, there are 2 spots remainig for the top 8, so you can find in there KKRool or Ganondorf, or something weird lol.

[@amazing1112]

I agree with you but he didn’t say what you said. Tweek had some viable opinions but he didn’t argue them well

[@someoneelse1348]

But that doesn't happen? The only thing close to that was the first Luminosity Invitational that had 10 players, which one was Hbox, and nobody thinks that Hbox did incredible for tecnically doing top 12 (or top 10 in this case lol) in a major. The event mentioned there was GSA, tournament that although had a pretty low attendance for a major, had lots of European top talent (most notably Creepe, Sisqui, Raflow, Supahsemmie, AndresFN and many, many others) + some international ones (Raru, Snow, Doramigi and Asimo from Japan, Lima and Shadic from USA), so doing top 8 at an event like that is definitely very hard and has lots of merit, even more with a character like K. Rool. Plus, although I know that your case is an hyperbole, the ranking values wins over placements, so getting top 8 at an event like that would not affect that much (plus getting a tournament tiered as a major is really hard, you need both a great hand of top player and LOTS of high level ones that count points to be considered as one).

[@TwinHacari]

No this doesn't happen. Infact its more so a bunch of PR country players in Europe popped up for the tournament. Just a terrible argument.

[@TwinHacari]

​@@amazing1112Nothing about "it happens every month" is a viable argument. It still has the talent level of a major and this is proven when top level goes over there struggling top 8. Ridiculous American bias 😂

[@amazing1112]

@@TwinHacari I was more talking about the video in general. I thought some of Tweek’s points throughout the video were decent but he didn’t argue any of them well.

[@shazzyrv]

hearing tweek straight up say he doesnt enjoy the game anymore was kinda heartbreaking. i know many top players look at the game as their job rather than their hobby but idk. it still kind of hurts weirdly

[@abghen2323]

You don't realize he's thought this since like 2021 it's been this way a long time

[@sandau44]

​@@abghen2323Tweek straight up said that lmao

[@gearsekando7384]

I love that Luminosity is putting out content regularly, but I feel like the plain room they’re in can make it feel dry sometimes. You guys have a roster of the biggest smash personalities, they should have an environment that lets matches that to bring the most out. Just a friendly suggestion cause I want to see the smash scene grow. Happy Voids back!!

[@isaiahromero9861]

Nah I like the simplicity. I kinda hate when videos like this have over the top production value for no reason

[@troyjohnson9266]

I believe this was recorded in NY at the LMBM venue (hence no Sonix since he wasn’t there). So not much in terms of production but I do agree.

[@illialidur8244]

0:55 I love how the video just started and Marss hears the first three words of the first question and thinks it’s gonna be some dunk on the meta and heads off to agree and then has to hit the hardest about-face when it’s a positive thing.

[@juanoshigeru]

Tweek admitting he has depression on camera

[@im_Spade_]

0:53 exact impression of Mario about to fall off a bungee wire/thing in Sunshine ☀️

[@shine-ub6eb]

This is the best video yall released yet, getting these real answers from the player is so raw

[@armania_9064]

0:56 I’m dying seeing the way Marss was walking towards the agree section that instantly turned around when the question was being said 😂 and 20:13 where Marss jumped over to strong disagree then was like nah just disagree.

[@mkyusufmk]

smth about the opening frame of them just standing in a room gets me

[@taeahn6065]

This is a good video. Lg. I want you to know this was a good thing that you put out.

[@chadm2007]

I thoroughly enjoyed this series. I would love if you guys would invite other players in as well and get their insights to these types of things. It was cool to see EE in there too. Loved it all around.

[@Moegivesmelife]

Ultimate is still definitely a great party game, there's a lot of room to make some wacky rulesets for casual play! My young siblings made up a ruleset where everyone picks Donkey Kong, only Pokéballs are enabled, one stock, and Temple is picked as a stage. No one is allowed to attack except for using Pokéballs (with some exceptions like Ditto or Victini). 😄

[@Money4Nuthing]

I feel like Ultimate's meta is fairly healthy in the sense that 18 different mains are present within the global top 20 players. There are certainly broken, toxic, and overrepresented characters but at the end of the day, non S-tier characters are succeeding at a high level.

[@thecreepingbam]

I actually agree with Tweet about the tier level of tournaments, this needs a rebranding and reevaluated,... you cannot have an A+ tier tournament weekly, it's contradicting and promotes burnout on the top competitors... I love smash and disagree that some characters are soulless. they might annoying, but soulless is too much hyperbole. Tweek might be burned out but with no option to stop and that's why his opinions are so harsh, I feel, but it could be that he actually feels like he says. Great video, please work on the audio of the people reading out the questions, I could barely hear you guys, I have a hard time reading on a video. (attention issue,) so I usually miss the question and realized that they are written above until the conversation was very advanced.

[@BC0MBS]

Yeah I'm definetly making a video on why the rankings are bullshit full credit goes to Tweek

[@natecallon9755]

surprisingly i think of all he listed sonic is the least soulless, every single person that plays sonic LOVES the character and the games and wants shadow in usually lol

[@crescentryoshi3717]

9:10 I love that people say "Cheese only happens at low levels because it's suboptimal" yet as Marss said it happens in tournaments a lot because the "risk" is usually just missing due to an dodge and the reward is killing at 10

[@slam6802]

Sure, but when you actually watch Marss play in tourney on stream, you’ll see how hard he’s exaggerating. Maybe what he’s saying is true for round 1/2, but those rounds are typically considered low level Top level does have cheese, but it’s nowhere near that prevalent

[@nwamajin]

“The guys who go to tournaments” ok big guy

[@chretienli6405]

I know it’s popular to complain in smash, but proof is in the rankings. In the entire top ten there’s not a single repeat true main. In the top 15 Steve, a supposedly “super overpowered” character, appears twice and only because syrup went crazy last season. As much as pros and content creators try to say they know the meta, it’s very common for somehow huge discoveries in characters. Asimo and Ryu, Shadic and Corrin, Raru and Luigi etc. supposedly low tier characters who now have entire perspectives changed. That’s a healthy meta. Long story short, if you complain your game has 10-20 overpowered characters, your meta is fine because they’re all competitive. Even after 6 years smash isn’t close to being “solved.” Last thing, you’re not assigned characters. If certain characters were that overpowered and easy to pick up, a lot more people would play them. As great as Marss is, his Steve gameplay pretty lackluster, just shows you can’t pick up an “op” character in smash and do well competitively all of a sudden. Online sucks for sure, and there’s nothing to do if you’re trying to practice as single player (CPU’s too unrealistic/bad)

[@amazing1112]

Totally agree. Well said

[@elitecombine5373]

It is true. I also want to add something that is not as relevant to this. I think it is just competition in general it feels like what we thought was solved or stagnant in competition seems to be changing once again. Chess, Boxing, marvel rivals, TF2, etc. Idk what it is but something in us seemed to have leveled up. You just need a different approach applied by a good player and it just changes.

[@lifestyle807]

Smash 4's ranking ended similarly, though, with way fewer characters to play than ultimate. Yet people said that Bayo killed the game. The rankings aren't the best way to judge the game. The issue people had with Smash 4 (and to a lesser degree ultimate) was that the best character was seen everywhere in tournaments, not always necessarily the rankings, but in pools and top 64, etc.

[@Akubyo]

Thank you VoiD and EE, for understanding the difference between an unhealthy meta and a "lame" one

[@DrSwazz]

4:08 “Mom said it’s my turn to talk” 💀💀

[@LilololXD]

u should do a episode 2 with more people cuz this idea is really good

[@aero6104]

Tweek is actually so right about Ult, as expected of the GOAT

[@guibrito14]

I find hard to believe that Tweek dislike the game this much

[@FlamingZelda3]

there's a bit of a history of smash players having issues in their personal lives & that often bleeds over into disdain for the game itself.

[@Frilleon]

Steve is toxic

[@IxionAC]

I did not think I would enjoy what is almost a podcast from Luminosity, but this was good!

[@YungLilBoii]

Void is so much smarter than everyone here.

[@HamzaKhan-mk5lb]

Goat gamer is just different than the rest

[@aquaex6]

I love him but hard cap

[@WTH1music]

lmao 2:13, imagine enjoying luigi gameplay

[@ogxh0018]

Although you are correct, Kazuya is just so much worse

[@Don_terrenos]

The violin when tweak was talking was a perfect touch 🎻 😂😂😂😂

[@203arbour9]

2:20 def agree with what ee says here imo i feel like the oame characters help make the hype characters feel hype if and when they win the set

[@trevorkeith3813]

I'll answer along cause why not 1. The meta is in a healthy place (disagree) - While there is a lot of variety, there's a certain playstyle that continues throughout the game and it's all about touch of death of stalling to the highest degree, which is why steve is at the top cause he can do both. But it's not a fun meta to participate in. I like a more neutral heavy game and I find that more engaging than high aggression and the meta just has a lot of emphasis on getting your touch of death vs earning your touch of death. 2. I am burnt out on smash (agree) - I still have fun with the game and enjoy it but it's difficult to play the game alone. There's only so much to do and I really don't like the online. I enjoy it with friends but that's about it. I might like it more if I could find time to go to tournies but I just can't spend my spare time doing it when I got other things to do. And I still play games but keeping up with a fighting game I don't compete in nor is it fun online is a recipe for just dropping it. In a world with more time, I would probably go to tournies still tho. I never really did get a chance to really participate in the local scene to a degree that would grant growth 3. I wish I mained a different character (strongly disagree) - I adore my character, PT. There isn't anyone else in the game that makes me feel as successful and gives me that level of fun. The only downside is that the character was not made for the meta. This character would have done better in Smash 4 and that meta. They do alright here but just don't have the touch of death so easily granted nor can stall well at all. Get edged out by characters that do those things better. 4. Player rankings are important (agree) - I think it's a good way to indicate how one is doing in the scene and gives clarity to watchers on who's doing well. It helps you find a player with your main and watch them. I do think some people put too much emphasis on it, especially with the arbitrary algorithms but it's cool as a game within a game. 5. The next game will be amazing (agree) - I do think the concerns and criticisms of the game are all valid. I have the same ones and it's been an issue since day 1. I do think they'll deliver on core gameplay again and that it will satisfy the community at large. I do think how they achieve that will determine it's longevity. I am one for a reboot and a complete reimagining of the kits. I would like something more dramatic done to shake things up, even if it's not my favorite. The benefit is that it seems the Switch 2 is backwards compatible so Ult would still be available very easily. Anyways, a new director and at least a soft reboot should give plenty of fuel to keep the game moving forward, especially if they keep competitive considered in its design. The problem with ult is that it felt like the party mode centered around people playing the game competitive still. There was so much less fun and creative game modes for casuals to play. Brawl could be played endlessly because they focussed so much on making the game fun at home, even without friends. And all that fun alone stuff, could be played with a friend. But I do think they'll deliver, just how much is the question.

[@Sockem16]

23:22 "i don't think a party game is good alone" i mean... yeah

[@owenbritain6677]

20:34 void literally told Nintendo a good mechanic and then they removed

[@lanceheron9629]

Nah, smash is still an amazing party game to play especially amongst casuals.

[@brendanbonus3211]

The most athletic movement ever done by a pro smash player was Mars doing a 180 degree turn after hearing the first question.

[@Maximumconfusion12]

Ngl it was so sad how tweek said he lost his passion 😭

[@sinnohth]

thank u for your work tweek 😭

[@gimmiK87]

7:05 a Kirby beating the GOAT is proof tweek is wrong here

[@camro14]

Smash is still an amazing party game for casuals. But competitive players have trouble enjoying the game casually.

[@Fpl8646]

Love the violin during Tweek’s rants

[@just.Harley]

i completely disagree with the premise that people dont like setting up smash ultimate and playing it as a party game. I have bias since it's my game that i myself bring around, but whenever i set it up to play, people typically enjoy the game alot. sometimes the buttons can be a little hard but anyone who plays games would be fine. its really easy to bring around and game, and its also really good for keeping my 5 year old sister occupied 😭😭 she plays mr gnw and loves the octopus final smash, so i just set her up with cpu lvl 1s and she loves it. Back in the day i would play smash ultimate in the lunch room cafateria. if i had more friends i would play it with people way more often. smash ultimate is a very versatile game

[@Tymoniska]

I hope they make smash 6 online more like splatoon 3 online; badges, customizable smashtags, shops where you can buy skins for smash currency, good waiting room and multiple ques. I think its likely i belive in my nintendo

[@raven-a]

Yeah, a good party game is like Unspotted or Mario Party, something more down to luck or really easy to pickup and win even without playing much, Smash (any fighting game for that matter) just makes the worst player frustrated, unless the other are handcapping themselves (or literally you turn on that % handicap, but even that doesn't quite fix it)

[@TQo1]

nah I understand Tweek 100% I quit about 2 years ago because I simply didnt feel like this game rewarded good players. I felt like worse players could be me, which ofc can happen, but imo happened way too often just because of how gimmicky the majority of the cast is. And when FP 2 got released and I saw literal 0/2s win locals, or 2/2s become literal pros it "proved" everything for me n I dipped

[@pedrova70]

I just started this video and tweek is absolutely RIGHT. I was like 2 months not playing and went back looking forward to it. ElIte smash current state is SAD. This meta is PURE AND UTTER THRASH

[@rebelresource]

Smash Ultimate was INTENDED to be a party game. Not a solo game. So that is like a non issue. I have had A LOT of parties around Smash with like 8-10 people rotating. It worked.

[@RMahna94]

Marss kinda sounds like Brian Windhorst and i cant unhear it

[@isaiahkain4874]

Yooooo, "excuse me gentleman" - that was hilarious

[@joryuken871]

Paldean Shofu be spittin’

[@FlamingZelda3]

Love the dynamic between void and marss

[@raven-a]

I think they wouldn't drop Game Cube controller support just because it's so easy to implement, like the Switch already has support snd Switch 2 it's just a rehash with better specs, but yeah, if it was a brand new console, 100% they would

[@9Coronas]

this was a great video, more like this please!

[@Wuffix]

6:00 i dont agree kazuya is soulless but i dont see a soul actually playing min min bc they like min min from arms or sonic because they like sonic from sonic and then steve is a weird case because the minecraft community is split in 3 and will probably be split more if theres anyone even left theres still thousands that play the beta theres still thousands that play 1.7/1.8 and then theres thousands that play 1.9+ and all of the versions have completely different combat & mechanics the game is genuinely just collapsing from how the devs are treating the game(and very likely 90% of that bad treatment is from microsoft...)

[@oliverorchard6774]

Rankings for smash are important, it's more that the ranking system for smash isn't good. You're ranking is very much determine by how good your runs are in an S or A tier tournament event, even though you could've had fantastic results at many of the B or C tier tournament events. It should be a points system of ranking rather than a placement at every tournament ranking.

[@Alex1jag]

How long ago was this recorded? Based on some of the dialog it sounds like it was months ago.

[@luminositysmash]

Couple weeks ago at LMBM.

[@eye5856]

Take a shot everytime tweek says like

[@doveshelmet2933]

10:00 Tweek is just Snuffy from Blue Lock

[@James-ww3ri]

Ts prob funny asf

[@EddiesEats]

Bro Marss and that aero suit comment me. And he’s right! She was low key perfect pre nerf 5:49 js

[@4valongaming388]

Smash community in 2018: Yes they added Ridley! And Dark Samus and K.Rool! Great, we need more villains! Smash community in 2025: 90% of the cast are villains.

[@shengnyyj]

I agree with tweek LUMINOSITY IS WAY TOO LIBERAL WITH RANKING TOURNMENTS

[@mpropeck5888]

This was probably the best video I’ve watched on the channel

[@tundra9916]

Damn Marss is short

[@akira_sekaiii]

22:03 Nah I agree with Tweek on this one, the community makes the game worse than the game actually is for sure.

[@denverm4073]

This was a great video

[@lunarteam9003]

tweek was TALKIN!!!! salud

[@todward3295]

tweek is just on point with everything basically just wants a good smash game

[@Nandezaron]

Make it so you can shield mine cart. Thats all i ask

[@pistolpete3199]

Can people in smash not dress cause the comments hyping tweeks outfit is sad

[@gimmiK87]

3:37 Aegis is ok. You cant be a bad player and succeed as Aegis. Same is not true for Steve

[@hugodecroix294]

very true

[@amazing1112]

She is still really good tho. She does require fundamentals and skill but the reward is really good.

[@purplecoffinman8510]

I think it's easier with aegis than Steve, cause Steve at least has a learning curve because he is not an orthodox character

[@tea101]

ur right but shes boring and that's what he was arguing

[@Sae23b1]

Aegis is broken

[@stevanuskokovic4838]

sponsor shadic

[@Sunray625]

WAIT SHIELD DROPPING WAS IN ULT DEMO WHY DID THEY REMOVE IT PAINN

[@jocalicious_02]

Why didn’t anyone talk about how awful the input buffer is or the jump camping?

[@kappakuppa7255]

Because its been around for so long we just cope with it

[@יואבישראלי-ב3ק]

‏‪7:03‬‏ sumobato:

[@pk-nen]

This is the content we need. Please no more of the brain rot filler “top players play smash on xx stage with hazards and items?! 😮😮”

[@gimmiK87]

5:15 not the question...

[@Fersbn_]

The Meta is surrounded by multiple interactions that could have been removed or avoid with regular updates

[@TwinHacari]

​@@Fersbn_yeah like zss zair + flip jump camping or monkey flip camping + banana shield

[@PrplVibes]

Love your fit tweek

[@daimajin266]

Damn, Tweek has a kinda very depressing view on everything smash related

[@kyKyoya]

cofagrigus for smash 6

[@cromm123]

That was a great video!

[@BigDJShag06]

Yo double upload???

[@lasagnahog7695]

Ultimate players are so much more down on their game than Melee players which is a shame. And I agree from a competitive standpoint. As a casual give me Ultimate all day but, competitively, it's not very interesting to watch with all the super lame top characters. I just don't watch Steve games anymore, I don't enjoy them, even a grand finals. In melee I'll watch any top 8 match from a decent tournament.

[@TwinHacari]

Melee is def down. You can hear it in the comms. They talk about everything but the match

[@sockems79]

Bros in the back rooms 😭

[@user-hp4su1kd7l]

another hard to watch, mind slopping piece of garbage from the luminosity team thanks guys

[@TwinHacari]

Yeah marss and tweek dropped the ball on this one

[@YaRolatela]

Tweek dont listen to them, you are valid keep shining my man

[@TwinHacari]

Is he tho?

[@Krioni_]

What are these Arizona Tea lookin' shoes Tweek is wearing?

[@musicdev]

This is like political discourse but for smash, this is amazing

[@bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Bro diddy is lame and horrible to play against

[@Keeby.]

when tweek says a tourny happening all the time shouldnt make it a major i think hes right even if alot of top talent is there, because if the tourny happens all the time it wont be taken as seriously. if a major is happening every month and top players go to every one of them because they need to to maintain rankings and get prize money, a random krool player who only enters one tourny every 3 months might have an advantage because theyre taking it more seriously and they arent as burnt out

[@jinxeatsdust]

you realize the monthly tournament becoming a major is in japan where there is no prize money and the only real reason anyone goes is for fun 😭 they 1000% take that shit seriously over there

[@elitecombine5373]

I do understand where that side is coming from. I do feel like majors happening all the time make it less interesting. Imagine if the Olympics happened every year or 6 months it would be less interesting. I think they need to work around a system for it to be more interesting. Maybe limiting the amount of majors that happen a year and spreading them out around the world and a super major at the end of the year.

[@jinxeatsdust]

@@elitecombine5373 I don't really understand this perspective im ngl, smash ultimate is a global game, multiple regions have strong players that can host major events now. The olympics analogy works best with P tiers which are significantly less prevalent

[@TwinHacari]

​​@@elitecombine5373Your perspective is literally all subjective fairy tales nonsense. We have to stay rooted in the objective reality where there is a ton of talent there.

[@professionellspieler3717]

Fucked how y’all did cav clash bruh

[@gimmiK87]

2:33 EE kinda spitting tho.