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@em63527 ай бұрын
THE LOVER HATE PHYSICALLY PAINS ME. LOVER is literally my favourite album and the whole reason I became a Swiftie 😭😭😭😭
@Perksofbeingmiles7 ай бұрын
well its bad kidzbop sounding singles, cornelia street and archer arent the best emotional highlights
@lifeaslorelei38297 ай бұрын
@@Perksofbeingmiles no its really good :/
@itssimply_puppy22367 ай бұрын
everything you said i feeling the exact way 100%
@abhya127 ай бұрын
I think for me, cornelia street and the archer hit really well infact archer is in my top 5 from taylor, but that’s just my personal opinion. And i agree me and yntcd are kidzbop sounding but talk about london boy, i think he knows and paper rings. They’re good fun songs! so Lover isn’t my fav album but it’s definitely up there. @@Perksofbeingmiles
@lily.m13037 ай бұрын
Omg me too, lover is my absolute favorite
@Florb_Underscore467 ай бұрын
Reputation is a masterpiece. End of story.
@Elaina.cc.7 ай бұрын
REALLLL
@IsabelSotelo7 ай бұрын
I can't believe they bashed on it that hard :'(((((
@rychickenfry68107 ай бұрын
It’s good but it’s not that good im sorry please don’t hurt me😭
@TheManFairy7 ай бұрын
Reputation made me a fan of her musically. The way she handled the hate made me respect and root for her.
@emmawhite11587 ай бұрын
It’s hated on so hard. When I watched her eras movie and everyone was so quiet during rep 😭
@IgneousDialect7 ай бұрын
“I’ve been a fan since 1989” Me thinking they’ve actually been a fan since 1989💀
@Reylandson7 ай бұрын
Imagine them asking for an autograph in the nursery 😭😭😭
@As-jj2rc7 ай бұрын
I mean I was born just few weeks before her, so 😉
@Sophisig7 ай бұрын
I thought it was like a joke saying she always has been a fan of her since she was born
@liqhtless11917 ай бұрын
@@Sophisig lmaoo samee
@Zachx6 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing at first hahaha
@thomasineblue7 ай бұрын
i love how the older swifties aren't gatekeeping, they're just happy more people are appreciating taylor, this is how all fanbases should be!! :D
@24kgoldplatedvermeil6 ай бұрын
I hate how gen z hates on millenials as if we weren’t hated on by gen x and boomers and thats why some millenials are gatekeepy in the first place. Gen z gets away with so much and I think it annoys some people. And then on top of that Yall don’t even actually hate millenials, because all of the cringe and everything yall reference is really just gen x or boomers trying to market things to millennials. All of your negative perceptions are misplaced
@thomasineblue6 ай бұрын
@Alejandro-gk9jw okay?? i wasnt talking about generations, just about fanbases :D
@24kgoldplatedvermeil6 ай бұрын
@@thomasineblue let me ramble! Omg lol
@pho._6 ай бұрын
@@24kgoldplatedvermeiland this is related how
@xharrypotterx67286 ай бұрын
@@24kgoldplatedvermeil Young people are only young once. It's okay for them do things the way they want to
@Pablorome7 ай бұрын
When everybody said i love calvin 💀💀
@mayalise32717 ай бұрын
So true I was gobsmacked 😭
@nijuu80537 ай бұрын
jumpscare
@Mrsamj19897 ай бұрын
Are they even swifties if they like Calvin? And to assume that Taylor liked that Twitter feud when he put her down for the public to see its just crazy.
@jetblackkat7 ай бұрын
no i was like…. WHAT
@Supcharged7 ай бұрын
@@Mrsamj1989stop being parasocial lmao he’s a separate artist just like any other
@cherishhhhh7 ай бұрын
I feel like this group would be such a good friend group they just all kinda go together
@AveryMiller7 ай бұрын
Bestie vibes only
@TopCoolQuizz7 ай бұрын
Yea 😂😂😂
@thisisviv7 ай бұрын
I want Swiftie friends so bad
@JRay.R7 ай бұрын
I feel like 4 of them are related lol.
@underrated.evermore7 ай бұрын
@@thisisvivliterally ong
@CarolKrein7 ай бұрын
I say NO to the hate against both lover and debut!! those are such good albums
@stuffedpotato98267 ай бұрын
I mean debut is debatable cz it's so strongly country that it can't be everyone's taste. I personally don't really love country songs but I do admire she wrote all of that so young Teardrops on my guitar is the only one I love on that altho I know almost all
@soleilsplaydate28297 ай бұрын
TY I LOVE THIS EVERYONE HATES IT NOWADAYS CUS ITS SO POPULAR AND "OVERRATED"
@ze_randomizer7 ай бұрын
debut and lover are like my personal faves
@skiingwmadds6 ай бұрын
@@ze_randomizersame omgg I love our song, picture to burn, teardrops on my guitar etc from the debut. And then from lover I love: all the girls you’ve had before, cruel summer, lover etc
@oliviaann35016 ай бұрын
I agree so much the are both in my top 5
@lunafemu7 ай бұрын
I don't get the hate that ME! gets. I really don't. It's fun, catchy and fresh. Plus, she was so happy making it. Can somebody explain it to me?
@sofia-qq5cz7 ай бұрын
People don’t like it because it it came out right after reputation and reputation is a great album but I personally love ME!
@sarahjh43647 ай бұрын
It's weak sonically and lyrically
@sensibleotter7587 ай бұрын
i like ME! a lot more than shake it off
@Kammy-nh8vl7 ай бұрын
I love it cause it made me deep dive into her catalog because I was a panic! fan and it made me a swiftie, before that I just listened to the singles
@sensibleotter7587 ай бұрын
i personally think taylor choses her worst songs on each album as singles (they're good for radio and they're catchy, so its a smart business move) but i love every other song on the albums more than the singles every single time @@Kammy-nh8vl
@Rebecaelisie7 ай бұрын
I'm also a fan, but honestly, I think it's so weird that people talk about her boyfriends like we are all in this relationship with her. I get that we follow the news and listen to her talk about it in the songs but it's HER relationship and most of it is private (even the public ones). We can make our theories and stuff, but I think we shouldn't say "he betrayed us" because we are not affected by it at all.
@SN-bk5xj7 ай бұрын
I agree! But i think it has to with the fact that a lot of people have this weird parasocial relantionship with her😅
@trinitysarah80617 ай бұрын
I was like,”who tf is US”😭
@SmileForever927 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@shawnwithachance1237 ай бұрын
i 1000000% agree with this
@anushkaaa217 ай бұрын
a lot of swifties have a parasocial relationship with her and they like call her boyfriends "dad" which is super weird. they get attached to her boyfriends as if it it their own relationship and they kind of feel like they need to "save" taylor from her bad boyfriends, which is just very weird
@BEATTOTHEWINX17 ай бұрын
THE WELCOME TO NEW YORK SLANDER CANNOT BE TOLERATED HERE
@lilykookie43067 ай бұрын
fr
@leslie-od1zb7 ай бұрын
RIGHT ?
@johnsebastianybanez63377 ай бұрын
Yuh
@Leah_16137 ай бұрын
I will not tolerate it.
@graceful15377 ай бұрын
@@Leah_1613 speaking of, I love Tolerate It!!!!! but we're talking WTNY here so 😂
@graciejohnson36997 ай бұрын
The red haired girl talking about Taylor needing to step out of her comfort zone and find a new producer, but let’s not forget how important it is for women in the music industry to work with people they feel comfortable and safe around. Taylor might feel extremely safe working with Jack and doesn’t want to risk working with a producer (like Dr. Luke) who could harm her, her reputation, her career, or her music.
@anushkaaa217 ай бұрын
no one's saying she should work with someone like dr luke. it's just that when taylor works with someone new like aaron dessner, she steps out of her comfort zone and does things she wouldn't do if she was always surrounded by yes men
@jessicalee9897 ай бұрын
@@anushkaaa21you don’t always know if someone is safe.
@anushkaaa217 ай бұрын
@@jessicalee989 taylor is like the biggest artist right now and has so much experience so obviously she knows who to go for. producers who have worked with her friends or something
@chelseasmith977 ай бұрын
Also she does literally work with different producers?!?!?! And always has
@dianajanna72287 ай бұрын
period!!!@@anushkaaa21
@FC-qb9wp7 ай бұрын
Without lover there would not be folkmore, she started writing stories inspired by movies and stuffs, also musically it’s gorgeous, so many bangers and great melodies.
@caterpillarking7 ай бұрын
without covid there wouldn’t be folkmore, was covid a good thing? no. i mean lover is my least favorite album but there are a lot of songs i love on it. the criticism is valid and saying “it can’t be bad because it resulted in making one of her best albums!” doesn’t really work.
@FC-qb9wp7 ай бұрын
@@caterpillarking Thats not what I said, there’s people saying that lover is not a good album when in fact it is! It has some of her best songs ever written in music/lyrics and many catchy tunes to just have a good time. The fact that we also have all of the girls and need (unreleased) being so iconic it’s also proof. One may not like me! But that doesn’t mean it’s not good and catchy I remember there was a collective applause when she released the lover song. So it may not be one’s favorite but saying lover is not a good album is just wrong.
@lunabels34257 ай бұрын
@@FC-qb9wp yeah! disliking one or two songs in the album, doesn't make the WHOLE album bad.
@optimistic.pessimist7 ай бұрын
Lover is quite the polarizing album, because imo it has some songs that would be in the top 20 of her career (Cruel Summer, MAATHP, Daylight, The Archer, etc) while also having some of the worst songs in her career (ME!, Yntcd, london boy) and so she sits as a weird middle child. If it was a 12 track album it would have the potential to be her best.
@FC-qb9wp7 ай бұрын
@@optimistic.pessimist Yes and also when I heard all of the girls and need (unreleased) so good, but people reads to those songs too much and forget that melodies is also composition and the catchy tune in me! Or London boy, YNTCD doesn’t make them bad, they’re there for a good time, her interpretation is care free and funny which is the point of the songs! Haha
@Mia.Isabella097 ай бұрын
The blonde girl and the guy in the Jean jacket are an iconic duo😂 it’s the facial expressions and everything lol
@kiek14467 ай бұрын
I think they’re the worst tbh. They act like any option that’s different than theirs is bullshit, in a very messed up way. The facial expressions are not it
@Mia.Isabella097 ай бұрын
@@kiek1446 I get what you mean
@big.reputation126 ай бұрын
no i love them that girl in the jean jacket is sooo wrong
@kiek14466 ай бұрын
@@big.reputation12 She’s not ‘wrong’ lmao she just has her own opinion? Which is also still not an excuse for that duo to make faces that are giving bitchy pick me vibes
@evakramer84016 ай бұрын
EXACTLY THEY ARE SOO ICONIC 😭
@peachpiit7 ай бұрын
Reputation is a love album with a few revenge songs that address her fallout from the public. Her albums are a snapshot of a moment in her life
@slimymouse7 ай бұрын
Red was right about the production not being as well. There’s a lot of songs on there that sound the same and are forgettable. With that in mind dress and delicate are in my top 10.
@daisy17857 ай бұрын
Notice how they all offered their opinion RESPECTFULLY. I love us
@zacuzzi7 ай бұрын
*I'm gonna be honest... if they're a friend group in my school, ID TOTALLY WANNA HANG OUT WITH THEM*
@BasuraVidz7 ай бұрын
Wannabe!
@tsotnekvirtia59896 ай бұрын
Eww
@SparksFlyAldc3 ай бұрын
@@BasuraVidzerm your a wannabe 🤓 that’s you btw
@arantzavs50357 ай бұрын
The redhead is braver than me lmao. I share most of her opinions, and I feel like she expressed herself very gracefully and respectfully even though she knew her opinions would be controversial. If that were me I probably would not have said anything but I am so glad she did.
@arantzavs50357 ай бұрын
I only disagree with her hate towards End Game… what a song! But her love for Lover makes up for it so we are fine.
@rollinginthedeep69006 ай бұрын
I agree with her too although Reputation is still a top album in my eyes because production has never been as important to me as things like content and lyrics. But I don't think it's an awful take to say that T Swift has never been pushing the envelope sonically, most pop artists are working with sounds and chord progressions that are well established in order to have maximum success and sell records. Taylor has always pushed the envelope in terms of her self expression and what people expect of her, but not necessarily what is possible in music in general which is okay. For something to be cutting edge it has to be somewhat alternative or underground by definition since the mainstream is always going to be dominated by sounds, styles, and looks that already "work," so to speak. But that's not to say that she isn't talented and gifted and groundbreaking in many ways, just that she's not reinventing the wheel which very few people are, if any. But she does what she does very well and executes the things she does to a very high standard, which is something equal in value to being cutting edge in my eyes!
@kattej8372 ай бұрын
yeah, esp with the whole rep thing, rep is one of my favourites, but its not taylor's best art. folklore and 1989 set the standard for peak quality/art, for me at least.
@sissiphos_6 ай бұрын
Am i the only one who loves every album, just in different situations/moods? I think every album is great and has its strengths in its own way. In summer and on sunny days I love to listen to Lover, if I want to feel nostalgic about my time in the South and my youth I listen to her country songs, if I’m sad or on cold days I prefer evermore and folklore, if I want to feel badass I put on reputation and so on. Like they all kind of hit the mark for me 🥺💗
@BeckyMD266 ай бұрын
Nope you’re not alone. I couldn’t tell you which is my least favourite album because I love them all
@tvdbloody3 ай бұрын
SO SAME.
@KarlitosBoutanous25 күн бұрын
No.For example when i'm angry or very happy,i listen to Rep .when i need some calming songs i listen to speak now,folklore,midnights,maybe debut ,1989 underrated songs. idk it's just mood dependant .I generally dislike the overly sad songs from any artist in general .I don't like ttpd or folklore overly sad songs like LOML,epiphany you know that kind. But for me taylor swift is a 200 out of 10 artist in any genre.
@AbigailCole-qt8xh3 сағат бұрын
So true❤
@lunabels34257 ай бұрын
I agree that sometimes you need to take a moment to let an album of her simmer, or soak in to you. I remember the very first time i heard reputation, and i didn't like it, because it's different and it feels like it's not her. But now reputation is my most favorite of all of her albums. Lover is a great album! It saddened me everytime i hear people hate on it. If you ask what's her worst album, I'll say none. Because for me all of her albums are great. I don't dare rank all of them, but I have my favorites.
@emilymeyers60697 ай бұрын
Yeah like I didn’t like speak now and I didn’t even know like any of the songs but now it’s my favorite and yeah I love lover probably because that’s the first album I listened to when it first cane out
@cream_cheese_bagel7 ай бұрын
@@TommyMLenot even cardigan?!???! come onnn
@michelleheadley29117 ай бұрын
Exactly. You explained that perfectly
@SavvyStardust7 ай бұрын
This was me with 1989, because I have been a fan since debut so the huge change was a lot to take in. I feel like so much was lost in the over-repetitive lyrics. It took me a while to appreciate it more.
@NotMegSquats7 ай бұрын
I didn’t like folklore and evermore on first listen. Or even second listen. But not I play them both all the time. It took me a bit to come around to it.
@mariagutierrez_3337 ай бұрын
i’ve been a swiftie since debut so when ppl say they don’t like debut my heart breaks everytime 🥲
@SelfMadeMillennial7 ай бұрын
SAME. Debut was groundbreaking
@michaellink74487 ай бұрын
REAL. For someone to neglect an album like that is so heartbreaking. She released the album when she was SIXTEEN. Most teens her age could never have the ability to write and release songs like Taylor did for debut. And for those who say that because she has grown, her more recent work is better, well think about it in the sense that Debut was just released. That was a masterpiece for someone in the late 00's or early 10's to listen to that (Especially if u love country music like I do).
@froztyzz14097 ай бұрын
Debut Taylor’s version will be revolutionary
@michaellink74487 ай бұрын
@@froztyzz1409 REAL
@corazon21277 ай бұрын
Our song is a classic!!!
@janciecan7 ай бұрын
The girl in the black jumpsuit made me SCREAM. Rep and Red are literally my favorites. We’d have beef fs. 😂
@Yazluvscats7 ай бұрын
Right like she didn’t even know the song name smh
@butterflychirp94477 ай бұрын
Same
@harmony86236 ай бұрын
No bc everything she said in the second half made me want to scream “She needs to get out of her comfort zone” “She’s trying too many things” “She needs to use new producers” And the Jack hate like how 🥲 Taylor just can’t win 😭
@monyroath7 ай бұрын
1.Not them saying they like calcium hydroxide. He’s like one of the worst exes 2. The blonde in denim saying Taylor should step out of her comfort zone is so dead wrong. Taylor didn’t switch from country to pop to alternative just for her to say that
@taylors_pickle137 ай бұрын
LITERALLY FR
@Supcharged7 ай бұрын
The girl did specify events after 1989.
@JRay.R7 ай бұрын
1. They were discussing who was her best boyfriend, not her best ex. I feel like there’s a difference.
@anushkaaa217 ай бұрын
she meant comfort zone of pop producers. taylor has gotten very comfortable with jack and you can see that on midnights, it's a veryy jack antonoff album. when she works with someone new like aaron, she pushes her boundaries, which is ultimately great for her as she is a very creative person and anyone who helps bring out the creativity in her should be brought on board
@goldrush83377 ай бұрын
taylor's been working with jack since 1989.10 years has passed. it was needed at the time but now she needs other producers. you can see how having someone other than jack (aaron dasner) influenced folklore&evermore to be a different thing. then we had midnights with jack which was a generic pop record and it sounded nothing new. it was such a step-back as an album after the masterpiece that was folklore&evermore. also the midnightsification of 1989 vault tracks with jack was sad...
@nick75877 ай бұрын
Ima brand new Swiftie. Midnights lured me in a few months ago, last month I listened to 1989 and grew more intrigued, reputation slapped, and Lover absolutely solidified me as a forever fan. I still haven't listened to her early work, but I LIVE for Lover. I can't stand the Lover slander Edit: im fully aware this reply section is probably dead, but for purposes of chronicling my taylor swift journey, here's my personal album ranking 2 months later! (i will be keeping explanations short) 10. Debut: no, i dont hate her! she's simply my least favorite 9. Lover: yeah... opinions change i guess? she's still the king of my heart, but i need more MEAT to really bite into, yknow? 8. Red: she's um... she's... yeah... 7. 1989: please dont kill me. she just needs to be saucier, if that makes sense 6. Fearless: honestly, slay 5. Reputation: she's angry, she serves, and honestly, you cant hate her 4. Speak Now: When i say she doesnt miss, I MEAN IT. She literally cannot fail 3. Midnights: sorry, but the dreamy vibes still just do it for me 2. Folklore: screaming, crying, throwing up, all at the same time if you're following along, this means that there's only one girlie left, and she is... 1. EVERMORE: she simply does folklore, but better. i feel like im there when i listen to evermore, and she simply cannot be beat
@belmoon87117 ай бұрын
I love Midnights! 💜 Thank goodness I sat down and listened to it after the break up because it made so much sense. I love Reputation, she disappeared because of all that drama, but came back taking no shit. I love Folklore.❤️ Actually I started listening to Taylor when 1989 came out. Then I listened to Red. Lover really grew on me! Her lyrics are genius. To understand her metaphors I to have concentrate, I can’t be doing anything else the first few times. 🎶
@azulablue69887 ай бұрын
Been a swiftie since 2008, and Lover for me is her worst album. Not that it's bad, it's just at the bottom of my TS album rankings.
@user-if5vo9ui9c7 ай бұрын
This is literally my exact same experience. When Taylor released Midnights and she got really popular on social media, I started listening to Midnights and then Lover over and over and over again. It is my favorite album and Lover is my favorite song so it painnnns me that anyone could dislike it
@dmtea85627 ай бұрын
I don’t like country but Red is a pretty good album and Speak Now and Fearless has some bops. I would recommend listening to folklore as well if you haven’t already.
@Solip_i7 ай бұрын
Ive always like Taylor but LOVER was the album that made me a Swiftie!
@thegreentiger37 ай бұрын
I SWEAR ON THIS PLANET EARTH. JUSTICE FOR LOVER. Y'ALL DID NOT JUST SAY THAT IF DEBUT IS OUT THAT LOVER IS THE WORST. I LOVE LOVER SO MUCH. IT IS THE BEST ALBUM
@rychickenfry68107 ай бұрын
Fr it’s not THAT bad, death by a thousand cuts and ms americana and the heartbreak prince are so good, but cruel summer isn’t that good sorry to burst your bubbles
@Keren__bg7 ай бұрын
Yeah i think Lover doesnt deserve last, although I’m a reputation girly
@xfabian217 ай бұрын
Lover is her weakest work, doesn't mean it's bad. Just not as good as the rest and thats fine.
@grielauryn7 ай бұрын
Yes but what do you think is the worst then?
@thegreentiger37 ай бұрын
@@grielauryn My least favorite is her debut album. I would not necessarily say that it's the worst because that was her very beginning and not everyone does amazingly when they just start but that's my least favorite.
@ShelleBaby7 ай бұрын
I love reputation. I did something bad, look what you made me do, gateway car, and don’t blame me, where all so good! I actually didn’t like delicate and thought it sounded like it should be on a different album. I love new years day but it also feels like it should be on a different album, vibe wise.
@ellahenderson50836 ай бұрын
delicate best song on rep
@edwinam13626 ай бұрын
Delicate was the only song I liked on the album for years
@icenice94687 ай бұрын
Lover is one of her best album wtf. They are crazy .-.
@stuffedpotato98267 ай бұрын
Ikr ?!!!!! 😢❤
@Elaina.cc.7 ай бұрын
REALL AND THE GURL IN BLACK DENIM SAY SHE. HATES RED AND REPUTATION LIKE HUNNY REPUTATION, LOVER, AND RED 🔛🔝
@Thechaoticthrees19 күн бұрын
Lovers at the bottom three😅
@mariagutierrez_3337 ай бұрын
crazy how ppl aren’t proud to be a swiftie , been a die hard swiftie since ‘06 & i talk about her every chance i get 🥲 she raised me
@najyaahusni65447 ай бұрын
same! i love her since song i’d lie😔
@dinglesworld6 ай бұрын
Gotta consider the court of public opinion 😬😬😭😭…the hate for her music and especially her fanbase is as big as the love for her music.
@Mapleleaf8654 ай бұрын
@@dinglesworldi blame the fans who are nuts they turn a lot away from her music for a lot of people including me befor I liked her it’s another K-pop situation
@angel_shelly7 ай бұрын
even when i don't agree i automatically respect swifties who can be critical of taylor in a respectful way. Blindly following isn't always the flex you think it is
@zariella7 ай бұрын
love having the statement up in the corner bc i be forgetting what they’re arguing abt anyways 😭
@damiangaribay90747 ай бұрын
the reputation dislike from the ginger and blond guy in the back was the BIGGEST hot take from this entire video. i’m convinced they haven’t really dissected and ruminated with the album. production-wise screams 2016-17, not 2012. it very much has the sound many artists were utilizing during this time period. songs like dwoht and end game are very reminiscent of that era. i think it was a beautifully made album and very cohesive. it was a love album, most instrumentals were similar, and new year’s day was a great closer. all in all reputation is one her best, if not her best piece of work other than 1989.
@nacho6157 ай бұрын
Most of them werent even swifties by then, I enjoyed sooo much Look what you made me do when It just came in! A girl full of revenge is just what I needed
@dianajanna72287 ай бұрын
i still dislike it and it's in the bottom next to midnights for sure.
@ericahamel44046 ай бұрын
you when someone has a diff opinion😮
@laurenh33436 ай бұрын
it’s ok to not like an album, you shouldn’t have to “ruminate” with an album to make yourself like it just because it’s by your favorite artist😭 also certain albums are just not going to be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s ok, people shouldn’t be attacked if they prefer taylor’s country music or folkmore over her pop albums
@karisa3367 ай бұрын
“I became a swiftie in the falkloor era” 😭🖐🏻
@AshlynnTaylorsVersion7 ай бұрын
I have never truly disliked a Taylor song as a swiftie. I have least favorites ofc, but I still sing to them and I also skip songs when I'm just not feeling them, it doesn't mean I don't like them.
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
I don’t hate any of her songs, but I hate her cover of last Christmas and I dislike glitch
@AlaskaBoyAlex7 ай бұрын
They found a straight male swifty and he's giving. Also the guy who was turned by cats slays the house down hunty boots ngl
@BEATTOTHEWINX17 ай бұрын
Who is straight
@RoseJackson16077 ай бұрын
?
@TisTheDamnStickSeason7 ай бұрын
There are a few of us around
@AleksandrCyplakov-zc3hy7 ай бұрын
Not one of those men are straight.
@CarolinaBeanies7 ай бұрын
Im a straight male swiftie
@evans_swiftie_shirt17307 ай бұрын
I am an older Swiftie. I became a Swiftie when I was 32, when Tear Drops was released. I am now, almost 50. I see Taylor and her music a little different than the typical population. It's all about her music to me. I don't pay much attention to who she is dating or what she is wearing. I feel that the putting term, the worst and Taylor Swift in the same sentence should never happen. I feel that the song ME! was written for a young population that is struggling with who they are and is very important to them. Welcome To New York is such an important song to me. 1989 was such an important album for Taylor with her changing to a Pop. WTNY introduced us to that era. My parents grew up with the Beatles. I grew up with Michael Jackson. I never thought that any artist would come close to the both of them. When it's all said and done, Taylor may top the both of them. Don't ever take the greatest singer/song writer of your generation for granted.
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
I’ve been a fan since Teardrops but have only considered myself a swiftie since eras tour\2023. I loved her music and certain songs were huge favorites but I didn’t know much about her life or even her fandom and relationship with her fans
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
13:04 she’s supposedly a clone not a reincarnation… Zena isn’t even dead
@coopsahoy85637 ай бұрын
The people who said these aren’t swifties, are the fake ones. Just bc someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they’re not a fan 😂
@_rat_57587 ай бұрын
Yuppp
@trevorfrenk41377 ай бұрын
faxxx i dont like reputation but im still super familiar with taylors work
@graceful15377 ай бұрын
exactly! being a fan just means you enjoy taylor's music and you appreciate her. doesn't necessarily mean you have her entire discography memorized or knows everything about her love life
@Calypso11227 ай бұрын
girlllll it was a joke.
@sociallyenginerd88467 ай бұрын
They dont know what Karlie did to Taylor which is confusing as hell but I don't care what they call themselves. "THe one with Ed Shereen on Reputation". End Game is a deep cut.
@Sonar_1257 ай бұрын
The real swifties are those who equally loves her country albums
@teethbeans99947 ай бұрын
One thing I would like to add about what tour is the best is that the eras tour is the best simply because of where Taylor is personally. She is mentally and physically at her happiest and healthiest. Watching the 1989 or Reputation tour is hard when you know how bad her health was and how much it took out of her every show. I love seeing all the clips of her just listening to the crowd go wild and her stage presence is unmatched this time.
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
This comment didn’t age so well….
@songtrivia6 ай бұрын
One thing I dislike about some Swifties is they think Taylor can do no wrong ever. I think it's perfectly okay for people to be fans of Taylor and still have opinions about her.
@slxthkween6 ай бұрын
fr
@justanotherboringswiftie5 ай бұрын
yess!
@iamanti83674 ай бұрын
i can't stand the "omg, everyone hates lover" comments. like, can y'all listen? they made a valid point that if you make a list of albums it's inevitable that something will be at the bottom and for many people it happens to be lover or debut, it doesn't mean these albums are hated, they just least liked ones and that's fine. people are so dramatic over nothing.
@youlooklikeclarabowwww3 ай бұрын
the only wrong she’s ever done is closure😭
@jessherselfable7 ай бұрын
This made me feel so much better about how it usually takes me several listens to get into her albums.
@edwinam13626 ай бұрын
Folklore was a bit of a snoozefest on first listen. Its one of my favourite of ALL TIME now.
@nicolevalencia97617 ай бұрын
I loved Avery's opinions, also, I HAVE NEVER DISLIKED ANY MUSIC TAYLOR HAS RELEASED.
@AveryMiller7 ай бұрын
🤍
@Keren__bg7 ай бұрын
Yeah i’d say its more of re listening the song and then falling in love with it for me
@meghbanerjee42597 ай бұрын
SAME IVE ALWAYS LOVED ALL OF THEM THERES JUST A FEW WHICH TOOK A BIT OF TIME TO GROW ON ME BUT IVE ALWAYS LIKED THEM
@FC-qb9wp7 ай бұрын
It’s funny that they say that about Jack, Midnights was the first almost full album where he participated, previous albums he was in less songs than other producers.
@syd_cole7 ай бұрын
the look around after she said she didn't like reputation
@lauratzunun12897 ай бұрын
I don’t get the hate for ME! I mean it’s not my favorite song but it’s not my least favorite song either. I feel like Swifties are embarrassed to be associated with it because it has a bit of a kid bop vibe. But it’s a fun song idk
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
It’s one of my favorites lol. To me it’s like anti-hero lite
@aditiallady77587 ай бұрын
I love reputation but I don’t think we as fans should compare each era. It literally is her life but I love how everyone is respectful
@Jsmith122927 ай бұрын
I'm a 31 year old straight man. And I've been a swiftie since Tim McGraw. I grew up listening to country music so when I heard her 1st couple songs i was instantly drawn in. This is how I'd rank them in my opinion: 1. folklore 2. Speak Now 3. Red 4. Fearless 5. Debut 6. evermore 7. Lover 8. Midnights 9. 1989 10. Reputation
@marcinikolle7 ай бұрын
After watching this, I really realize how much of a die hard swiftie I am cause I felt like I could debate and argue with everything negative that was said in this video.. 😅
@star_fruitti7 ай бұрын
Ahhh I wish I was there! How did they not find a Swifty that's been a fan since Teardrops on My Guitar???
@star_fruitti7 ай бұрын
I just watched the video and I do like everyone though even if i dont agree with some of their answers 😅
@Hitmaddiehardandsoft6 ай бұрын
because most people weren't here since teardrops on my guitar tf
@star_fruitti6 ай бұрын
@@Hitmaddiehardandsoft thats why it would have been a nice contrast in opinions. I've been a fan since Tim McGraw(my mom was a huge country fan and introduced me to her). Why are you trying to make my comment a bad thing?
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
@@Hitmaddiehardandsoftplenty of people were
@TheLizardTales7 ай бұрын
I adore my fellow Swifties. Because at the end of the day, we might disagree on many things (songs, boyfriends, producers etc.), but what we will ALWAYS agree on is to show compassion to one another (unless you are a predator, then we will take you down). Because that is what we have come to love and expect from Taylor. So it makes sense her deepest fans exude that as well. I could listen to conversations like this all day.
@TaraCreel7 ай бұрын
Omg, the W.I.T.C.H reference was so good! I see you 👀. It’s such a wonder to be under he spell 🧙♀️
@KyKySlays7 ай бұрын
My opinion: 1- Agree! I love every album so I love getting to see all of it! She’s also really happy during this tour! 2- Disagree! I love Travis but Taylor Lautner and Joe Alwyn are just so amazing! 3- Disagree! 3 words, stay stay stay. Also these people hated Me! Too much 4- Disagree! Never heard of her being a witch? 5- Neutral! Never heard of it but looks similar 6- Neutral! I see the signs but idk 7- Disagree! Lover is top 3! How can people think it’s the worst- 8- Agreeish! The girl around 28:25 said it all lol 9-
@jester63247 ай бұрын
Literally agree with your Lover opinion. During her Miss Americana documentory, she says that Lover is the emobidment of falling in love with love itself.
@sleepyzzh7 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your Lover opinion BUT Stay Stay Stay? That’s legit one of my favs😭
@VivekPatel-ze6jy7 ай бұрын
Fr stay stay stay sounds like generic advert music with the relentlessly upbeat instrumental and chords
@michaelvalverdenavarro76907 ай бұрын
💀lover is definitely one of her worst pop albums, it doesn't hold very well against midnights, 1989 or reputation
@Srrgi7 ай бұрын
@@michaelvalverdenavarro7690it’s her worst, period
@tomcarlosimborio75287 ай бұрын
I've been a Swiftie since Drew looked at meeeeeee, so I was surprised to see them think the debut album was the worst! Nah ugh!
@corazon21277 ай бұрын
The way I’m 28 and still cry to that song 🤣
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
I think it’s just that it’s country and she’s improved so much since then
@ghostdoll967 ай бұрын
I was 10 when her debut album came out. I heard Teardrops on my Guitar on the radio and looked her up when I got home. I BEGGED my parents to buy me the album and I got it for Christmas. I've been in love with her and her music ever since.
@girl.who.lives.in.delusion6 ай бұрын
I ALMOST CRIED WHEN SHE SAID SHE HATED CHRISTMAS TREE FARM Edit: OMG IM GONNA CRY THEIR DISSING ON DEBUT
@JRay.R7 ай бұрын
I can totally understand the feeling of being a secret Swiftie. Because, he’s right! You can’t lead with that fact in a new situation, or put it in your dating profile. Even though I’ve been loving her since I was in 8th grade, in 2006…The Swifties take it too far sometimes, and some of them (not these ones, from what I can tell) can make it difficult to openly and proudly identify as a Swiftie to everyone, in all situations. But then again…that could also be partially (or mostly) because many people, like…ones who aren’t fans of TS, judge her to be something she’s not. So, because of that “prejudice”…they also judge the Swifties to be something they’re not.
@Calypso11227 ай бұрын
girl what
@galikafry84947 ай бұрын
As a swifty, it's just music not a big deal
@BLOODYSHOWDAN6 ай бұрын
I still don't understand why is it hard though. I'm not from America, maybe this is the problem. But I am so proud of being a swiftie actually
@moonzo13Ай бұрын
Huh 😭 bruh you really make the word swiftie sound as if it was your sexuality like it's not that deep... It's music
@ultravioletpisces366625 күн бұрын
I think that most swifties aren’t that bad but haters do purposely like to troll and trigger swifties and then say oh look they are crazy- like a narcissistic abuser who is calm and gets you upset just to show everyone you’re the crazy and bad one
@lorloretta_7 ай бұрын
the hate for Lover is crazy because it's literally one of my favourite TS albums. Cruel Summer, Lover, Cornelia Street, Paper Rings, Afterglow, hello???
@realrobbiemc7 ай бұрын
YES!
@mnzthegreat7 ай бұрын
I agree to Avery most of the time especially her take about the Eras Tour. rep tour still the best but Eras Tour is the most iconic.
@hoorainbaig20247 ай бұрын
They love calvin who talked shit about her in public wow
@heybea5337 ай бұрын
sometimes I just dont feel THAT proud of being a swiftie because of the fandom, I love taylor but there are fans that make me want to die😍😍
@ericamckissack41246 ай бұрын
I totally agree! Especially when it comes to speculating about her relationships and sexuality. Like i understand thinking a relationship is cute being excited for someone, but planning their future for them is to much for me. I also don’t think that any music Taylor makes so songs I just like vibing to more than others. I especially don’t understand the “ME!” hate when Taylor talks so strongly about how much fun she had with it. Like if you don’t like a song that’s fine but don’t blast it calling it awful and if someone ask just say “Oh well that’s not really one of my favorites but I really love (insert your favorite). Same with ranking albums.
@belleschroeder99057 ай бұрын
the witches in the salem witch trials WERE just girlies and they would’ve LOVED taylor swift
@isaacruiz87367 ай бұрын
reputation is my favorite album and I would attest that the production of that album was reminiscent of the music landscape at that time in 2017 (hip-hop/huge bass/trap pop). It made sense at the time, but also made sense for the concept of her big, "angry", comeback album.
@notjadethirlwalllll86916 ай бұрын
Reputation is a non skip album. Her best album. THEY best album.
@slxthkween6 ай бұрын
gorgeous
@notjadethirlwalllll86915 ай бұрын
@@slxthkween exactly. non skip
@candiesaldc5 ай бұрын
@@slxthkweengorgeous isnt a skip
@neisulore_dv7 ай бұрын
I've always really really liked taylor and her music, like especially after lover, but i only became a swiftie and active part of the community after midnights becuase of how big she became and i decided maybe i can be louder about my love for her music.
@MidnightLeo7 ай бұрын
The conversations they had were so interesting. Like i was fucking glued.
@addie_08197 ай бұрын
THESE PEOPLE ARE HATING ON SO MANY THING WHAT 😭😭😭😭
@jillsarah73567 ай бұрын
"...in 1989" screen: 1990 LMAO. I am a Swiftie and these are my people but Conspiracy Theories go from fun/silly to straight up racist/antisemitic/misogynistic so fast. Let's keep our critical thinking caps on Swifties and everyone!!!
@sanajadhav7 ай бұрын
about the people saying that she needs other influences, production and people to work with, i think that those things are exactly what maintains her authenticity like whether its country or pop or indie/folk you'll always be able to say "thats so taylor" when you hear a certain lyric or beat or sound despite the fact that her songs sound nothing alike... the fact that she can change genres so many times and still maintain her originality is something that's not appreciated enough
@olivia40876 ай бұрын
‘06 debut swiftie here- I’m loving the diversity in this video!!! I love new swifties and having someone who loves her because of cats is actually unheard of!?!?! Love it!!
@Evan_music2477 ай бұрын
The blondes eyes when someone said something she didn’t agree with are soo funny😳
@AveryMiller7 ай бұрын
not good at hiding my feelings oops
@Evan_music2477 ай бұрын
@@AveryMiller also hope that doesn’t come off as hate, didn’t mean it like that, u were my fav in the video
@addie_08197 ай бұрын
I genuinely love every single song Taylor has released from end game to Tim McGraw I also am a me! stan it’s really fun
@Valeria.de.vil127 ай бұрын
I agreed with the red hair about Reputation. I love that era as a whole with the snakes, aesthetic, production and all of that BUT the songs are not my favorites it took me some time to appreciate it
@caesarq75134 ай бұрын
Cool to hear directly from Swifties themselves since you hear so much about them. Such a diverse group.
@punni_ch4n7 ай бұрын
this is so fun to watch honestly
@michelleheadley29117 ай бұрын
1. All her tours are amazing and the best. Each one is so different and yet still amazing. Never been to one though I’ve seen videos put together. 2. I have no opinion on her new “bf” because it’s her personal life and i don’t know her personally. I enjoy her music. Stage presence. Etc. I’m not going to make my opinion about him unless he’s this horrible person and am just so horribly upset. I feel sad for her when there is a breakup. But she’ll find the right person some day. 3. There may not be favorites of her songs. But I don’t hate any of them. Sometimes it takes a while for me to warm to a song. Reputation at first was not my favorite. I didn’t like it. But now I do. And at first I didn’t like evermore or folklore. I grew. Tastes change. And i grew to appreciate the songs and the differences and the creativity of them.
@imanormalperson287 ай бұрын
i know it's about taytay but what's everyone's problem with harry styles?😭
@monicathegreat30267 ай бұрын
Its just kinda the way he treated her
@sewatweaty55492 ай бұрын
Only became a swiftie when midnights came out so I'm a bit behind but I've been catching up as she has become my favorite artist of all time. I love lover I think it is criminally underrated, it's my favorite. Also love her debut, to me it tells me that she had it from the start. All her albums are good and most are amazing. Most artists can hope to have 1,2 or 3 really good songs. Taylor has 60-70, to me anyways. She's the best of all time. I am grateful to get to listen to her music as I usually would struggle to find anything before discovering her and most times ended up settling for something that was kind of good or at least filled in the silence.
@ladychelseatheundead6 ай бұрын
Reputation was the constrictor that pulled me in. LOVE LOVE LOVE it.
@GagoAlaverdyan6 ай бұрын
This is like reading twitter 🤣 i didn't know there were actual people who talk like that.
@sibeeriano6 ай бұрын
The debut album is THE masterpiece, she was so young and it was so good for country and her age
@sujudolls7 ай бұрын
I agree with Reputation tour. That was something else. Yes hard to compare as well!!
@kfctwigs1366 ай бұрын
Flannel guy and dark jeans girlie have my heart.. agreed with all of their opinions. Would love to have friends like them irl
@mikaylaxm7 ай бұрын
the blonde girl and the guy in the jean jacket are a MOOD
@magatha087 ай бұрын
the girl in the blue sweatshirt was judginggg all the hot takes lmao i love it though that's what i would do🤪😋
@tamaradulisse7 ай бұрын
I needed to be in this video because I have been a fan of Taylor since I was twelve years old. I am now 27 LOL. I've been through everything with her.
@karisa3367 ай бұрын
“ i don’t like welcome to new york” it’s u bye ur the problem it’s u
@colehrabe7 ай бұрын
tis i, i fear. 😅
@karisa3367 ай бұрын
@@colehrabe LOL
@Hulk15147 ай бұрын
Take redhead out and put me in 😤😤 The reputation-red-loved slander is not allowed
@atrubkina7 ай бұрын
fr , like the ginger girl said she should not go out of her comfort zone but then that she should step out of it more often? smh 🤦♀️
@galaxycollective18336 ай бұрын
I've been a swiftie since I was 7 and that's the year Speak Now came out and my top 3 albums are Midnights, Lover, and Reputation
@lily_faito.282 ай бұрын
the red hate got me so pissed i knew you were trouble is amazing.
@JoeCarswell7 ай бұрын
My least favourite is Midnights and 1989 has the most skips😬 Blonde is giving toxic fan the way she won't even consider other opinions. Thank god red and checkered shirt are here for balance.
@Ryan_t12907 ай бұрын
Taylor is not a trailblazer?? She’s confused. The reviews for 1989 alone noted that she was creating music using almost no contemporary references…that’s trailblazing sweetie. She also reinvents herself into each era, pushing herself and the boundaries of her career.
@myblood86227 ай бұрын
im sorry I LOVE Taylor but what exactly did 1989 introduced musically? it is a pretty generic pop album. I think Taylor is somehow a trailblazer in a lot of things but yall need to stop acting like she invented the music or smt.
@jessicagentle_7 ай бұрын
@@myblood8622 I feel like Taylor helped bring out the 2010 style pop music with Red and 1989
@aldenzo_oznelda7 ай бұрын
3 SECONDS INTO THE VIDEO!! Rep is so good wdymmm😭
@nacho6157 ай бұрын
Reputation is the best production in her career PERIOD. Then if you prefer lyrics, it’s ok go with folklore or evermore, but as a musical piece REPUTATION IS HER BEST
@pjhey9477 ай бұрын
I’m here to say 1989 is my favorite album but I’ve been a fan since FEARLESS ❤❤
@BenTheEgg13Ай бұрын
The blue hoodie and white pants is like the only valid one
@julianvv44277 ай бұрын
everybody hating on the auburn hair girl for saying taylor isnt a trailblazer sonically! which is so true!!! taylor writes outstanding songs&albums but she never has a unique „never heard before“ sound! which is totally fine! but i think it‘s good someone pointed that out!
@bannonorama6 ай бұрын
girl with the red hair spitting straight facts idc i love her she is so right
@Gabo_28257 ай бұрын
24:51 redhead blew it here, this is one of the biggest problems artists struggle with, especially with artists that strongly rely on their audience and praise, they really feel pushed by people who demand new things, and then redhead says she likes Taylor being experimental but at the same time she’s just not satisfied like “she could do better”, and she doesn’t like how saying that sounds because it does in fact sound bad, like, think about it, even after Taylor’s experimenting with new genres, she’s not satisfied, it’s kind of a selfish point of view, if people are no longer satisfied with artists’ new music, their best bet will be in finding somebody else’s music that suits them better. It IS valid to say that pushing yourself is benefitial to an extent, but if someone’s already doing that you can’t ask for more.
@eleanoreliz6 ай бұрын
Based on her comments as a whole (at least what we were shown), it seemed to me she was saying she’s appreciates the experimentation but wishes that Taylor would fully commit to the experiment. Especially as someone with the ability to, if you are going to dip your toes into new genres, get producers with genre experience who can enhance what you are trying out. Make use of “subject-matter experts” basically. If you are going to experiment, why not go the extra step of doing this? She did so with 1989, bringing on legendary pop producers like Max Martin, for example. You can continue to like an artist but also find their new work disappointing or not everything you hoped it would be, especially given the resources you know they have access to. You don’t have to be fully satisfied by an artist to want to continue listening to them. And this video, specifically one centered around discussing opinions of Taylor’s music, is a very sensible place to talk through those thoughts. Taylor puts her art out for public consumption. People who interact with that art are going to have reactions and opinions. There are whole job fields created around the review and critique of art because you can want to consume a piece of art and still not be 100% satisfied by it.
@Hitmaddiehardandsoft6 ай бұрын
let the girl live omfg you all take things WAY too seriously
@HeyyJillian7 ай бұрын
Taylor literally writes her life before it happens, shes absolutely a witch lmao we love that for her
@ivanaba43517 ай бұрын
i think they don’t know what being a witch means tbh🫠
@Franklin2OO77 ай бұрын
I’ve been a swiftie longer than all of these people lol. Since like 2007. Pretty sure the love love love bracelet was the first thing I ever bought online.
@Buggaboo2227 ай бұрын
I was a day 1 swiftie thanks to my mom liking her when I was a baby LMAO (thanks mom!)
@minasdiary_7 ай бұрын
ooffff I was born in 2007 lmao😂
@robertdodds52827 ай бұрын
I am here to say that lover is her best album!
@Bibbleingo7 ай бұрын
I like the Lover album probably my 3rd favourite but Rep is at the top for me 🖤🐍