Do Christians need permission to choose Jesus over Donald Trump?

[@karenkoelsch]

Thank you for your thoughtful and honest words. I didn't go for Trump but I did find that I had to leave three churches because of his influence on the congregants and on the pastors who found themselves serving Trump rather than Jesus. It's deeply painful.

[@regenia8738]

Wow! This is great!

[@Hisgrace4me]

Compromising and manipulative Evangelical leaders like F. Graham, M. Pence, Falwell, P. White and Jeffress, etc and the heretical teaching of "Dominion Theology" within the NAR has directly helped to corrupt Evangelicals and churches. MAGA is a cult, RUN! Idolatry and lying are still sins no matter what your motivation is!!! Leave MAGA & Repent!!! Trust in only Jesus Christ!!!

[@JH-pt6ih]

@@regenia8738 What is great about this?

[@regenia8738]

@JH-pt6ih 1) Just the fact that someone knows how s/he wants to spend time and is actually making it happen. 2) This man currently has only 978 subscribers. I give anyone a lot of credit for having the courage to start a channel, especially knowing it will probably be a good while until viewership grows. 3) Being 74, I am happy to see more mature people willing to try something new and embrace what many reject. 4) I try to leave even brief comments for people. It not only encourages them not to give up, but it also helps the channel in some way. 4) Mostly, because he mentioned becoming friends with individuals who might disagree with you. I liked the fact that he encouraged sincere dialog.

[@JH-pt6ih]

@@regenia8738 Cool. Thanks for the response. I wasn't sure at first if you were indicating it was great the commenter had to go to multiple churches to get away from Trump's influence in church. It can be hard to tell these days!!

[@justingarner9806]

I recently heard this, "Any message where Jesus is the means but not the goal is not Christianity. It is idolatry." I absolutely love this quote because you can test any "Christian" movement this way. Is Jesus the goal in the churches that preach prosperity? Is He the goal of Christian nationalism? Is He the goal of Trumpism? No. He's simply a means for them to achieve what they want (prosperity, peace, safety, a better economy, worldly political power, Trump to rule over them, etc.).

[@kathyanderson4962]

Thank you for your sensitive, calm explanation. Two in my family are deeply involved in MAGA. It has changed their sweet personalities & caused painful, heartbreaking divisions within our once close relationships. Your message gives me hope. Even my beloved Bible College began pushing Trump into their curriculum & I reluctantly stopped supporting them financially after 11 years. You have cleared up much confusion in my heart & I am grateful🙌🙏🇺🇸

[@marklundberg2471]

I am sorry this is causing a riff. So are You going to vote for Joe Biden. You must understand why people are Make America Great Again. We are tired of the lies being treated as slaves and having our money stolen. But, Most of MAGA People seem to have a Belief in God. God has Chosen an Available Person for His Work. God has Chosen Trump to be His King David for this Time in History. God is Still My Number One. God has given me a mind to know there is a good leader to follow. Trump is respected all over the World and God has given Trump the roadmap to fix.Soon you will see God ‘s work on the Earth. Also in reading your complaint remember you are as much the problem as your family members.

[@kimberlyhudson7212]

Amen!!! I am so incredibly thankful to hear you speak. I am 100% with you. I felt the same from the beginning, and I have suffered watching the body of Christ under attack. Thank you for getting it out for others to see. May God continue to bless and protect you. I ask in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen ❤️

[@matthewpressley1707]

Thank you for speaking out on this issue! I’m a Christian conservative that has watched my party be taken over by Trump and his vile ways and have actually watched him turn many,many Christian’s into an angry,vile people as well! I’ve been saved and following Christ for 19 years and have never faced persecution in faith like I have since I started vocally pushing back on Trump! I do see the MAGA movement as a cult .

[@Hisgrace4me]

Compromising and manipulative Evangelical leaders like F. Graham, M. Pence, Falwell, P. White and Jeffress, etc and the heretical teaching of "Dominion Theology" within the NAR has directly helped to corrupt Evangelicals and churches. MAGA is a cult, RUN! Idolatry and lying are still sins no matter what your motivation is!!! Leave MAGA & Repent!!! Trust in only Jesus Christ!!!

[@halfulford3081]

The maga movement is a cult.

[@lindaparkins2459]

I identify with what you are feeling and saying and support those who cannot bind there convictions with the cult of Maga. I am in a similar geographical area dominated by the evangelicals devoted to Trumps world view . It is lonely in these times to stand strong against this overwhelming pervasive evil creeping into our faith institutions 🕊

[@JaclynRuff]

Amen to both of these comments

[@claybowler751]

As someone who served the Republican Party for years over God, believing that God was probably a Republican (sad I know), Trump allowed me to see how ugly my misguided beliefs were. The religious right is a lot like the Pharisees. I see that now. They worship traditions.

[@Anabee3]

"Hes not PROTECTING you; he's USING you as a SHIELD"- Jon Stewart's warning to Trump supporters. I agree. I also 100% agree with and VERY MUCH appreciate Pat Kahnke's faith, courage & message here, today.

[@sdelaney6762]

This occurs when individuals bring church and state together. Thank you for sharing.

[@judybales8297]

Thank you for speaking out on this subject. We need more people like you willing to take a stand on this matter. May we refuse hate and love once again.

[@MegaCricket7]

Thank you for speaking out! I’m probably the only one in my family who isn’t pro-Trump/Maga.

[@gladysbrewer7420]

Oh my finally someone I can agree with . Thank you God !

[@jimburke217]

Nice to hear an open minded Evangelical speaking Truth

[@kathleenwharton2139]

You Cannot Serve God and money. It is obvious who Trump chooses to serve! 😊❤

[@judysowers5993]

Thank you, thank you, you are right on. God has given you the wisdom so please continue on. I follow Christ not a vile man or a political party that is no longer what it used to be.

[@fairytalejediftj7041]

You mention the epistle of St James. I don't see how any Christian could read James 5:1-6 and then vote for the Republican party. "Christian Republican" is an oxymoron. BTW, Trump stated in an on-camera interview that he's never asked God for forgiveness in his life. The one thing you must do to be a Christian is to admit that you've erred and ask God for forgiveness. So Trump is categorically not a Christian ipso facto.

[@fairytalejediftj7041]

@DarrylSErbyMedia What the GOP extols, the NT condemns. Acquisitiveness, vengefulness, sanctimony, tribalism. Jesus found these things abhorrent.

[@1notstressed]

The Lords Prayer “Give us, this day, our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses.” Jesus taught us this prayer. I’ll bet my Mini Cooper that Trump cannot recite the Lords Prayer. And it doesn’t surprise me that he’s never asked for forgiveness. “It all happens naturallistically, what’s the need for a God? Can’t I set my own rules? Who owns me? I own myself.” “Religion is such a great thing it’s so it keeps you know there’s something to be good about you want to be good you wanna it’s so important I don’t know if it’s explained right I don’t know if I’m explaining it right you know you want to be good you want to go to heaven when you have something like that you want to go to heaven OK so you want to go to heaven so if we don’t have heaven OK you almost say what’s the reason why do I have to be good let’s not be good what difference does it make.” Sound similar? The first is an excerpt from: If God is Good by Randy Alcorn. The words are of notorious sexual predator and cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer. The second paragraph is Trump, Stable Genius’ word salad dated June 2024. If I were Trump, I’d retire from politics and start asking for forgiveness now, before it’s too late.

[@danduntz2539]

@@1notstressedI will also bet my 1st Gen mini Cooper he couldn’t do it. He has no interest in humility, but power. No interest in servitude, but self-interest.

[@sherilynmurray5699]

Any true Christian knows without a doubt that no man comes before God. Period. You can not be a believer in and a follower of Jesus and not understand this. It is the first and most important commandment.

[@Hisgrace4me]

Compromising and manipulative Evangelical leaders like F. Graham, M. Pence, Falwell, P. White and Jeffress, etc and the heretical teaching of "Dominion Theology" within the NAR has directly helped to corrupt Evangelicals and churches. MAGA is a cult, RUN! Idolatry and lying are still sins no matter what your motivation is!!! Leave MAGA & Repent!!! Trust in only Jesus Christ!!!

[@barbarascott8276]

Your fedora analogy is so good. Hats off to you and your good soul.

[@mariajorge9327]

Thank you so much

[@LuvGod4ever]

Presidents come and go but Jesus is forever.

[@jakelilevjen9766]

I totally agree. As a child of two people who grew up in South Dakota, and who voted Republican in every election until 2016, Trump goes against everything I have been taught about how to be a good human being.

[@ritagezae9604]

The devil has many tactics which we're not aware and we have to be very careful and we have to know what is behind it. My brother what you are doing is amazing and for someone will be a turning point. I can say keep it up the good work and reveal all the truth. God bless you.

[@claybowler751]

One of the ways the devil works is that little voice in our head. Shhhh, you know that Trump is a man who promotes the sins of the flesh, but if you don't defend his ways, you will lose so much more when he loses... Then we wonder why perversions are running so rampant in our society, but we boycott a light beer to make us feel like we are doing something heroic.

[@rckinvesting1862]

We appreciate you Pat! Keep up the good work.

[@marylee924]

I have a very similar background as you when it comes to my political life. Also I grew up in a Baptist church as a child of the pastor. I am so glad I found you!! I have felt so isolated and flabbergasted with my fellow Christians since 2016. I voted Republican in every election until then but Trump pushed me out of that party and I will never go back. I just discovered Tim Alberta also and knowing there are other Christians who understand is so helpful. I am now in search of a place to worship that centers on the teachings of Jesus.

[@simonbacaltos5660]

I was never Republican and voted Democrats, but it is eye-opening to hear of your struggles when you shift paradigm from religious-political-social perspective/ideology.

[@debbiedefiestheoddsdebm9604]

Thank you I've struggled with this because i can't understand how Christians can't see. They seem blind 😢 We can't walk in 2 worlds. God says we will know them by their fruit. I honestly believe this is a measuring stick. God is love not hate

[@claybowler751]

Because they aren't looking to the word of God. Their religion is the state and the power it promises.

[@lonnyerb8059]

You are so so right keep up the loving Christian way like Jesus did. True definition of a Jesus follower

[@bozbyron]

i also am a Minnesotan and a life long democrat. it is interesting to listen to your podcast

[@Kra-ri6fd]

I had a similar experience with the struggle of something as simple as change in how I dress. Oddly enough I believe I finally got the guts after I started questioning my views on MAGA and seeing how it's taken hold of people. I was a very tomboyish girl and very masculine sort of women until i was about 38. Probably could count on one hand how many times I wore a dress in my life. I wanted too ...i very much admired older dressing fashion...but also wasn't known for that. But I started feeling convicted to wear only shirts and dresses for personal reasons. This is a personal conviction and in no way do I believe other women need to. I believe my conviction is because of this hold of ways that I had over me. You explained it better than I can. Anyway, I was shocked at the response when I first showed up at church wearing a dress. I felt I had to explain myself to my mother in law. I told her I felt a conviction to only wear skirts and dresses from now on. The response was shocking. Almost before I finished, she haughtily responded, "well, I'm not giving up my pants!". My thought was, 'this isn't about you and who said you had to?'. My response was, "why would you have to? You've always dressed more girly than me." She seemed to be pleased with that compliment. But I immediately saw that maybe a pants fast would do my mother in law some good too! Who knew shed be so defensive over her pants. Suddenly I realized a person can be a legalistic anti-legalist! When we take so much pride in stuff like that...where it controls your decision making....maybe you need to go through some uncomfortable times for a bit. Me wearing dresses and skirts for the first time was VERY uncomfortable. But now, I don't think anything of it other than noticing the constant COMPLIMENTS I get now. I didn't do it for that at all. In fact, I didn't do it to begin with because I also hated being the center of attention. I mean, how many women wear dresses anymore? I actually had one women stop me and thank me for wearing a dress. She said she misses seeing women wear dresses. I've had a man or two say the same. I did too. So I started wearing them. Now my son likes old hats like you do. But he has told me he feels silly thinking of wearing them. He's afraid he'll be teased. We recently started homeschooling in the last few years so he's felt more freedom to be himself but my changing my dress code has allowed him to dress as he likes. I told him it might feel weird at first but don't go most of your life not doing something you want just because you're afraid of what others might think. Be you now. So he is! We have to set these examples. Now I am also setting the example for my son's to vote as they wish. They both don't like Trump now too. But they know we're still in a hardcore Trump loving family.

[@signingcharity]

My daughters were much younger than yours but they were the ones that helped me not vote for trump in 2016. I was embarrassed to do so and still keep quiet in Christian circles about now voting democrat.

[@TheRealJean-1954]

Do Christian leaders that have spoken truth through the years realize what they are doing to the pew sitters that have listened to them ? You have taught me the word of God and now hold up for someone who totally does not have Christian principles or even practice the walk we walk as Christian’s. It’s mind boggling to me that any Christian would follow him. I The church to me don’t believe that the preaching of the gospel is enough to change the heart of the homosexual or the young lady that would abort a child so they need the government to help . Only the gospel will change the heart and not a forced law. Maybe the law curtails it but it will still be. Because sin has a power that only God can stop. Delivered from the power of darkness and translated into the kingdom of Gods dear son. Let’s reach one at a time with the gospel. Christian leaders have totally turn me off to their teaching because of their support for such a one as the ex president. Teaching me to live holy yet accepting everything foul thing this man says and does. Come on saints live this righteous out in every respect . Be the light

[@Mhzmanmiller]

A thoughtful and well presented discussion on this critical issue for all Christians. One other aspect of the "herd mentality" is wanting to be a part of a "winner." Many MAGA supporters simply want to be part of a winner and/or want to help support someone who is presumed to be the winner ie. Donald Trump. Like being a fan of your hometown sports team I suppose. Anyway, Pat I appreciate your providing a path for MAGA Christians to see that "the emperor has no cloths" and to have permission not to support Trump but make Jesus Christ first in all things.

[@Hisgrace4me]

Compromising and manipulative Evangelical leaders like F. Graham, M. Pence, Falwell, P. White and Jeffress, etc and the heretical teaching of "Dominion Theology" within the NAR has directly helped to corrupt Evangelicals and churches. MAGA is a cult, RUN! Idolatry and lying are still sins no matter what your motivation is!!! Leave MAGA & Repent!!! Trust in only Jesus Christ!!!

[@joannefc8325]

Thank you for sharing love and kindness 🌞 ❤

[@SeattleTurissini]

Wonderful presentation. You were able to put into words exactly what I feel. At one point I had an otherwise solid Christian friend use Ecclesiastes 3 to justify his hatred towards the left and anyone who disagrees with MAGA. It's like he's under a spell of irrational cognitive dissonance.

[@peter04345]

Good on you for speaking your mind and exercising your conscience.

[@jodyjm13]

This might be your most consequential video yet; I'm heartened to see more subscribers to your channel and more comments on your videos as time goes on. I have mentioned to my family that I just can't support Donald Trump due to his many obvious and flagrant un-Christian (even anti-Christian) actions and beliefs, but just get met with the response that we're fighting against "evil" (read: Democrats or anyone else who's not loyal to Trump) which excuses any behavior in opposing them. I've always been reluctant to push the matter any further by asking if we have so little faith in God that we'd rather use the world's tactics when advancing the church's agenda; would that be the first crack in their right-wing information bubble, or the first crack in our familial relationship? Perhaps it's time to overcome my reluctance to use Facebook and start sharing videos (like yours and a few others) that take a stand against Trump from a mainstream Evangelical perspective.

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

I’m a liberal and a secular humanist deconstructed from a conservative Christian background. I agree with your assessment of Evangelical Christianity. It’s sad what they have become. I really don’t think they realize how much cultural credibility they have squandered. I know There are wonderful people with traditional faith beliefs. I wish you well in your efforts to convince Christians of the dangers of Trump.

[@claybowler751]

I don't understand how you are fighting evil by desiring to be led by someone who brags about sinning. Indifference to Trump's sins, and using worldly excuses to justify it, is the devil at work.

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

@@claybowler751 The original post is Anti-Trump…and identifies as Christian. I am anti-Trump and identify as Humanist (but deconstructed from Christianity). The way your post is worded suggests that you are anti-Trump and Christian. I agree with your position on Trump… I would frame it differently of course, but I understand and agree essentially with your post.

[@claybowler751]

@@cipherklosenuf9242 I was actually confirming the argument above, " I have mentioned to my family that I just can't support Donald Trump due to his many obvious and flagrant un-Christian (even anti-Christian) actions and beliefs, but just get met with the response that we're fighting against "evil." I don't put any faith in Trump. I would be horrified if my daughter brought a man like him home. I would hope Christian parents would desire a man who will lead their daughter in God's word. I don't believe Trump is capable of that, and women are more to look at and for physical needs in his views.

[@Travesty-qy4hv]

There are "cultural Christians" who call themselves so, but have not received the call and answered it personally to their Saviour and formed that intimate disciple relationship with him. He's not an idea or simply an unattainable ideal. PBJ+M Prayer, Bible, Journaling + Meditation

[@mesomachines]

Thank you and God bless your ministry!

[@Muffy703]

A compellig speaker. Wonderful.

[@philbarone4603]

“Pride comes before the fall”.

[@juliefrady1851]

A book that challenged me back while Bush W was still in the White House was Tempting Faith by David Kuo. He was an evangelical Christian who was a staffer of Bush and a speech writer for other Republicans. But he got a diagnosis of brain cancer and that suddenly caused hi to re-evaluate his priorities and felt convicted by God to write the book. He challenged evangelical Christians to not let the GOP take them for granted or things would get worse. He even gave advice on what we should do (and no it wasn't necessarily vote for Dems). But nobody paid attention. I believe if we had back then we wouldn't be where we are now. Kuo has since died from his cancer. But his book is also an entertaining read -- he is a good story teller. Have you read this book? If not, I still recommend it.

[@thestraightroad305]

Thank you for the recommendation.

[@Jemawin]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@sandrapisarski6597]

Thank you! I've been preaching this for years to my followers on Facebook but I am afraid I have not always been nice... I've been fighting maga with maga tactics sadly, that is why I am so happy with you.

[@j.r.1823]

I'm struggling with that too at times. The more I hear and learn about Trump and MAGA, the worse it gets and I also sometimes get so angry and frustrated at everyone who still can't see the truth about that. It is hard not to put our anger too much into what we want to say or post to convince others. I also love Pat Kahnke's calm and respectful but still clear and decisive approach. He's a great example of how we can try to speak to others/ Trump supporters.

[@alohaohana901]

You guys kind of did this to yourselves. You could have made John Kasich the republican nominee. He seemed reasonable. He had a record. He never pretended to be perfect, and he said he was a Christian. If you would have supported him, Trump would have a much quieter voice today. But I honestly think a lot of what motivates MAGA is that they simply enjoy being entertained by Trump. It's almost like they think they are part of a reality tv show.

[@peterjermey7235]

A major part of it was Trumps endorsement from Jerry Fallwell. We now know that Fallwell was blackmailed by Trump into endorsing him. But weirdly the evangelicals have stuck with Trump even though he's the embodiment of everything they claim to oppose

[@Hisgrace4me]

I agree and voted for J. Kasich and this how I feel about this entire matter. Compromising and manipulative Evangelical leaders like F. Graham, M. Pence, Falwell, P. White and Jeffress, etc and the heretical teaching of "Dominion Theology" within the NAR has directly helped to corrupt Evangelicals and churches. MAGA is a cult, RUN! Idolatry and lying are still sins no matter what your motivation is!!! Leave MAGA & Repent!!! Trust in only Jesus Christ!!!

[@halfulford3081]

They are a cult and have been brainwashed and blinded from the truth.

[@jills1521]

Kasich was my candidate of choice in '16. The problem was, there were multiple candidates in the R primaries, all of them splitting the 'evangelical' (whatever that means) vote. By no means was Trump getting a majority of those--in fact Cruz was typically the winner of that category of voters. But Trump was was winning state after state despite rarely winning a majority of evangelicals. So Trump got the nomination, and Republican voters (evangelical and all other categories) had to either vote for him in the General, switch parties and vote D, or not vote at all. Exit polling shows Trump won the majority of E's in the General, but we may never know how many were voting for the person, or holding their noses and voting for Republican policies. By 2020, the majority of evangelicals 'voting overwhelmingly for Trump' have been demonstrated to not even be church-going individuals. They are CINO's--Christians in name only. This topic is incredibly nuanced, but there's a lot of money to be made, and name recognition to be achieved, by overlooking that nuance and jumping on the anti-Trump freight train. Make no mistake--the Democrat party is benefiting greatly by dividing the evangelical vote. Whether that's a positive or a negative remains to be seen.

[@peterjermey7235]

@@jills1521 a lot of big name evangelicals endorsed him in 16 and 20, some even suggesting it was a sin not to vote for him - Franklin Graham, Jerry Fallwell, Robert Jeffress, Bill Johnson, Brian Houston I agree that some of his support is from cultural Christians, but it doesn't explain most of his evangelical supporters. Polling suggests his popularity amongst Evangelicals has increased as a result of Jan 6th. The more extreme Evangelicals do not believe in democracy and freedom of religion. So although Trumps authoritarianism and contempt for the law is a discouragement to some, it encourages those people more.

[@shereeowens3470]

Thank you so very much !!

[@sandrapisarski6597]

I so appreciate you!

[@waynebean1521]

Oh, I have a brother.. Thank you!

[@jerryloufretz1797]

Thank you Pastor Pat.

[@BettyMensch]

Thank you LORD for all your Blessings

[@alvinf6981]

Well said, Brother.

[@philbarone4603]

“The meek will inherit the world”.

[@Tyler-wl8kq]

My mother voted for trump the first time, second time, but will NOT the third time, she’s seen the light out of the Cult of trump, she’s not going to vote for Biden but she’s just not voting, that’s the best you can hope for on MAGA is just they leave president vote blank,

[@21811]

I so enjoy your channel- God Bless You.

[@onlykarlhenning]

It's mind-bending to think of a mindset in which the prospect of voting against Trump is supposedly a "sin."

[@Kra-ri6fd]

I think it boils down to abortion really...and, well, some Christian Nationalists have come to a belief that America is a covenant nation too and, through false prophets and false apostles theyve come to believe that God chose Trump...that he is annointed to "Save America". This means our borders have to be protected all the more. They forget that Christianity doesn't end at our borders and God created other nations too. I would say it's a distortion of theology but some of what they believe isn't even in the Bible...it's "new revelations" so I wouldn't even call it theology. What is theology is grossly twisted because nobody reads their Bibles anymore. Sort of like how there are Amish people leaving the Amish ways because now they dare read a Bible in English instead of the German they don't that their traditional Bible is written in. Now suddenly they can see that Christianity isn't works based because when they actually read the Bible and in context, it says something different than what theyve been taught. But, they are shunned for changing their views. Oddly enough, the Christians who would rebuke a fellow Christian for voting democrat would likely look at an Amish person and say, " how dare they shun their family for following Christ." Yet they won't think twice about doing it to their own family for following their convictions. The scary part is, we are susceptible to this hypocrisy ourselves...we've likely committed this hypocrisy ourselves at least once in our lives!

[@edbrunner9108]

Appreciate your podcast

[@jenna2431]

The problem with foreclosing your intellect to be a Christian - meaning to actively AVOID using your reasoning and rational thinking skills - is that you can't turn it on when you need it.

[@robinwhite2184]

That is not what Christ taught

[@leonardtownpl4081]

That was very intelligent I agree with you

[@nevankabediv5035]

Victory in Jesus. Freedom freedom freedom In Jesus !!!!

[@onlykarlhenning]

I appreciate the fact that you're seeking a means of charitably deprogramming cultists. I'm afraid that their willing embrace of fascism will color my view of Evangelicals forever. If you can choose Trump over Jesus (for how long or short a time soever) Jesus was never your Lord, was He?

[@carolray5166]

I love your videos and arguments. Very thoughtful. I wish the episodes were numbered better. It is a bit confusing. Some don’t have numbers at all. Thanks for what you are doing!

[@culturefaithandpolitics]

@carolray5166 Thank you! Yeah, the only ones that are numbered are the ones in the playlist: A Christian Case Against Donald Trump. I guess some of the older, draft versions are also numbered. This particular video isn't part of my book - I made it before I wrote the book. I know it's confusing, though. My wife tells me the same thing. :)

[@why_said_i5818]

Thank you for this video. It obviously comes from a Christian heart. I've shared it on FB with the comment, Do you dare to listen?

[@kevinjohnson7839]

I am a Christian and a progressive, and believe in separation of church and state, because those two together, is a lethal combination. The separation is to protect government from the church, and the church from the government and those who want to abuse both. I appreciate your love and concern to help pull people away from the authoritarian movement. So to me, to be truly pro-life, You must focus on all aspects of life, not just focus on abortion. If you only focus on abortion, you are pro birth, not pro life. If you know anything about Trump’s history, you will have long ago understood , he’s for himself and himself only, not for America, not for you and me. He is a self-centered, narcissist. Mixed in with Scheiden Freiden.

[@claybowler751]

Clearly in Revelation 13, we know the partnership between false religions along with the state, didn't turn out food for the Christians John was writing to as Nero blamed Christians for burning Rome, and the temple enabled it in fear they would be removed from their positions in the temple.

[@Phjegood]

Dr. Steven Hassen is a cult expert. He says the same things.

[@culturefaithandpolitics]

Thanks. Yeah, he's the guy I was thinking of when I said that. His book was helpful to me, and I think it would be worthwhile to explore those ideas further on this channel.

[@thestraightroad305]

@@culturefaithandpoliticsPat, do you think you might have him on to interview?

[@anthonyorman596]

The problem is they want to mock and talk down to everyone else that doesn't have the cult mind your a way better man than me sir now doubt cause I care less about there feelings

[@eternaltruth5287]

Thank you

[@onlykarlhenning]

Love your work.

[@jenanfr2580]

Beautiful. This has been a profoundly reasoned presentation. Unfortunately I lay the blame on pastors for laying a foundation of "salvation by works" that so many Christians now adhere to. That's the only reason they could threaten you with the fires of hell for your not subscribing to their understanding of how to stand up for the sanctity of life. Let us not despair however, as though we are in this fight without God. He is well able- beyond what we can ask or imagine

[@bmt-zo1ue]

If the evangelical church, and the leaders of the time, hadn't allowed Reagan to politicize them around 1980, the church wouldn't been in this state. (Reagan and GOP operatives wanted to move all the evangelical base over to him as a voting block. He wanted to use them to beat evangelical President Jimmy Carter.)

[@claybowler751]

I recently learned a story about how Jerry Falwell attacked Jimmy Carter for providing Playboy Magazine an interview. In that interview, we who know Christ, know that Jimmy Carter represented the teachings of Christ well. Carter was asked if he had ever committed adultery. He told the interviewer that he had committed adultery in his heart--the he had lustfully looked at a woman. Think about that, Carter is not only citing scripture and commandments, he is a tool of God for those who buy the magazine to look upon women in the same manner. There in the pages of Playboy, Jimmy Carter is reminding readers they are committing a sin. It gets printed. Falwell through a fit, and the rest is history. A number of years later, we know the story with his son Jerry Falwell Jr., and we also know how they posed with Donald Trump in his office with a framed Playboy in the background with a picture of Trump looking lustfully at one of the Playmates. I am a Reagan conservative, but I have a lot more respect for Jimmy Carter as a good Christian man. I see through the need for political power that many in the church idolize.

[@merrylstreak7118]

I recently sent one of your posts to a good friend who was very pro Trump in 2016. We disagreed then as I was deeply uncomfortable about him, especially watching his inauguration. We decided not to discuss him again but I wondered if she still felt the same way now in 2024. I was mystified, shocked and disappointed to discover that she is even more entrenched than ever. The whole issue has obviously resurfaced but I find the gulf has widened to the extent that I don’t feel I can continue the relationship. 😢

[@homofloridensis]

Retired Pastor here: I think a well-intentioned church government has an unintended consequence. In my church I’m called by the congregation, but approved by, and a member of, a different church body. Of course, I wouldn’t stay at a church where I’m not wanted but, in case of conflict, I’m allowed a transition process. BOTTOM LINE: In a congregational government the congregation hires and fires. There’s pressure, therefore, for the pastor to preach what the congregation wants or he (or she, less often) is out of a job; hence the pressure to do what the majority, RIGHT OR WRONG, wants.

[@culturefaithandpolitics]

Yeah, that makes sense. Careful calling yourself a retired pastor around here, though. I've found that some people on the internet equate that with being a traitor to Jesus :)

[@ZannerBatman]

I have recently discovered your channel, and find your "talks" very interesting. I really appreciate that you present Christianity as it should be. I often feel that many people either think of Christians as being hypocritical or fanatical, and this really irks me. Thank you for standing up to, and against, the Trump cult which seems to be tearing religion apart. ❤

[@terryshaw9471]

I choose Jesus over politics every day. Do you? Hmmm!

[@jenniferimming3830]

Thank you so much for this message, I really needed to hear this. I’m voting for Harris!

[@carolinesullivan9432]

I am with the easy group. Thank you for giving me ways to confront the Trump followers.

[@Habitual_Liar]

I am strongly against religion but I have enjoyed watching your videos.

[@flpete]

Family dynamics often change when you have MAGA family members. I did with my family. Like religion, it often splinters family. No prayers will help. Just understanding them from the sidelines.

[@andyvisuals]

And somehow they believe that MAGA will make America great again... how's that going to happen when so many families (and institutions) have been splintered apart by MAGA! You will never get "great' with that kind of disunity and division...

[@claybowler751]

Yup, my mom said the other day, I read my Bible today and it describes exactly what is going on today in the White House with Biden. I said mom, the Bible isn't to confirm your world view and need for earthly power. It is to provide you with God's world view and his commandment for you to surrender your worldly world view.

[@sfperalta]

The most difficult thing about an absolutist approach to abortion is that pregnancy is a medical condition, and many things can go wrong to get from conception to delivering a healthy child. Some of the things that go wrong can require terminating the pregnancy to prevent the death of the mother or because the child would be unable to live in any case. That the pro-life movement adamantly refuses to recognize this and instead wraps their stance in dogmatic doctrine makes it very hard to support their point of view.

[@lhprovence]

What is missing completely in the anti- abortion discussion, is the total lack of laws that impact males in life changing ways as they do women. This seems to make this not an issue of the sanctity of human life, but rather and issue of equality and reversal of the progress we had made in equal rights of men and women. The story in John 8 about the woman who was dragged into the public market place to be stoned for adultery comes to mind. Jesus‘ response could be our model for understanding the complex issue of unplanned pregnancies in our time. The evangelicals have for decades rallied around laws to protect the sanctity of life, all the while being silent and avoiding dialogue on equally impactful laws regarding male reproductive behavior. After all, there was only one immaculate conception.

[@RP-mb7yl]

The Bible states that God will send strong delusion that they may believe a lie this is God's will there's nothing you can do to change it

[@brianchojnowski5989]

9:12 I’m going to use this clip as a perfect explanation as to why we don’t have libertarian free will.

[@terryallen6688]

BUT! Jesus never condemned Thomas for his doubt. Please, think on that one some more. Doubt is not the enemy, Certainty is.

[@culturefaithandpolitics]

Thanks - I definitely agree with that. Just making the point that it's good and healthy to have well thought out convictions and not to abandon them willy nilly. But yes, I think undue certainty is a huge part of the problem I'm trying to address.

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

Jesus condemns …Pharisees, money changers, hubris. Trump would praise King Herod and enjoy the palace. He’s a big fan of people praising him and praying for him in public. Jesus would know exactly what a predator Trump is …he was familiar with the type.

[@carriestewart-mg9ug]

Can you talk about the border issues, the lgt...etc issues, and the economy issues that many Trump supporters use as their reasons for supporting him. Ty

[@richardwilloubly8285]

A fedora is a fine hat have worn one for years.

[@kathydittmer9659]

And now “Birdbrain” is kissing the orange booty. Sick the control they have.

[@PeaceProfit]

Catch 22... cult followers can’t be reached by outside influences, including friends and family while they identify with the cult. Breaking that identity can only be accomplished by the individual. 🔥🤬🔥 It is the Shepherd who leads the lambs to slaughter, while the Wolf desires the flock roam healthy, united and free... 👣🕊👽 Pro💜Love

[@BettyMensch]

STILL HAVEN'T WATCHED ANGEL PLANE. HEARD THE SONG NOBODY. GUESS NOT. DO NOT JUDGE AND ACCUSE.

[@janicepalesch9221]

P.S. I like your hat! But even if nobody else in the world liked it, you should still wear it. We were all created to be different and unique. That is what makes life interesting. We express our unique selves in so many ways that make like better for others. Maybe somebody else thinks that way you did - then sees you wearing your hat and thinks, "Well, by golly, if he can wear his, I can wear one, too". We all grant others the freedom to be themselves when we do that same.

[@culturefaithandpolitics]

Thanks! :) I was walking out of a coffee shop in St. Paul a few days ago and a guy walked in who was wearing a similar hat to mine. I said, "I like your hat!" He said, "I like yours, too!" Hat people stick together for mutual support and encouragement. :)

[@jills1521]

Will your next video address the question of whether Christians need permission to choose Jesus over Biden? Or, perhaps, you will address whether Christians choosing Jesus looks like choosing to not vote at all? Christ-followers have much to consider beyond the person when casting a vote. What will governing look like under the person? What impacts will their policy positions have on the country? Will their policy preferences advance or diminish human flourishing? What are their positions on education? On job creation? On taxes? On the military? On social security? God gave us rational minds to analyze and consider these things. As Bible-believing Christians, we of all people know the candidate pool from which we will choose includes ONLY imperfect sinners like ourselves. There is much to consider in casting our vote that goes far beyond the flawed candidate nominated by our fellow citizens. I hope you also taught your daughter this truth when you and she exercised this important societal responsibility. (I am NOT a Trump fan, btw)

[@jodyjm13]

Then get involved in the primary and support Nikki Haley. No doubt she has some policy differences with Trump that you won't particularly like, but at least she doesn't openly fawn over autocrats and dictators, or talk about terminating the Constitution, or pledge to be a dictator "on day one", or any number of other Trump failings which ought to disqualify him from consideration.

[@tyrannyresponseteam9534]

God has sent them a strong delusion. 2 Thessalonians 2:11. Not sure how that's changed.

[@alexphilipiah2452]

Any true sprit filled Christian without any doubt wil know that no man come before the almighty God. Period. And you can't be a Bible believing Christians, who do not understand thisn most important of God first Commandment. Amen🙏 🙏 ❤

[@escapethecave6894]

My life parallels yours, except I never became a pastor. Im a teacher. I was getting uncomfortable when I saw Christian friends posting wicket things about Obama. I didn’t understand it. It was such un-Christ like behavior. Because I was already concerned, as soon as the Republican Party picked Trump, I thought they had lost their minds. How could they pick someone so vile. He was a crook, a cheat, and an adulterer. I remember telling a good friend that Trump would never give up the power once he got it, but that friend voted for him anyway. But I could not. Like you, I couldn’t get myself to vote for Clinton either. Since then, I’ve become much more secure and comfortable with voting blue, and I’ve been called every imaginable thing. However, I’m still very much much a Christian-a much stronger Christian now then I ever had been. And like you, I feel set free from something that was and still is inherently bad. The bottom line is your videos have been a huge encouragement and have helped me. After listening to this one, I thought I should tell you. But the truth is I’m listening every day. Thank you.

[@ellalovetheshowcaine8939]

I'm glad you are doing these video's thanks 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🙏💕

[@BettyMensch]

Jesus Lives all including Donald ztrump. Love Ine Anither. Don't you Live Do all Tru.p your Brother I. CHRIST

[@DefendersAndDisciples]

And now Trump is pro-choice.

[@cgpcgp3239]

The people who donated to haley know trump will greedily accept their money.

[@michelegyselinck5400]

Personally, I don’t know anyone who is a hardcore Trump supporter. I live in Québec, and we’re a progressive lot here, so anyone bragging about having abortion banned would not be popular. I think access to property performed abortions is a necessary evil because the reality is a lot more complex than just killing babies or protecting the unborn. We don’t understand all the implications, and we should leave it to those who do. I don’t want to cause a pregnant woman to bleed out because doctors will put their own careers before a woman’s need for medical attention. And what truly caring Christian would want to put a woman’s life in jeopardy over things they don’t know?

[@bradforward850]

Y'all have gone insane.

[@madajuarez7073]

I tried to be kind and I will continue to do so... Unfortunately it is a very painful road when you interact with a Trump supporter, their hate and ignorance is on a different level, their lack for empathy and LOVE poison everything ! I just need to recharge my batteries because I am tired 💔

[@sandrapisarski6597]

Welcome to voting for the Democrats, you are welcome here. I praise God for you!

[@UkraineRocks344]

Near death experiencers tell us about the life review in the afterlife when we must live all the suffering we have caused to others by word, deed and intention. My brother is a MAGA pastor and I imagine the thousands of lives he has destroyed alone….

[@Logan-wv8qf]

I’m afraid Trump has bumped Jesus out of the chair, at the right hand of God, and now he is eyeballing God’s chair.

[@BettyMensch]

JESUS loves All. Including Donald Trump. Love One Another. Don't you love your brother in Christ Donald Trump