Do Heavier Guitars *REALLY* Sustain Longer? - Let's Find Out!!

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[@TheCerealQuiler]

"That's when I learned people listen with their eyes!"" - Les Paul, 1940.

[@abarbee81]

How is this not more upvoted?

[@isaacwilliams9919]

it’s the most upvoted

[@ZaneDalton]

Isaac Williams no it’s not there’s one with 400 and one with 1.4K, and that just looking at the first five.

[@Magnulus76]

Exactly. Most of the discussion about "tonewoods" with electric guitars is snake oil.

[@sirspongadoodle]

Tone wood and pickups are the 2 biggest wastes of time.

[@danielkatz2971]

Hey Darrell, why not glue it back together and bust the myth that multi-piece bodies aren't as good for tone?

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Good idea! I'll add it to my list :)

[@HellcatCustoms]

The original guitar was many pieces to begin with. It makes zero difference in either tone or sustain.

[@MeatisMagic256]

Actually, glue isn't resonant. It does affect the instrument.

[@HellcatCustoms]

Titebond and hide glue both cure to a glass like structure, bonding two pieces of wood into one. It's not like strips of rubber. The only difference between a 1 piece and 4 piece body is aesthetics.

[@HellcatCustoms]

My Gibson Firebird V is an 11 piece sandwich of wood and it sustains like you wouldn't believe. Yea it's neck through, which helps, but the neck/center itself is 9 pieces glued together.

[@vicsguitargrotto786]

Err Darrell, ..when I said you could borrow my guitar....

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

😂😂😂👍

[@theresaflowers1191]

@@onesource9527 Doh!!

[@RobertAllenroballen2]

Hahateeheeteehee...gafawww

[@BWhatEverTV]

😆😜

[@jazzram_]

LMAO

[@marktheshark99]

I think it's because it's red. Red guitars have the best tone.

[@leonpolev]

DA RED SONDZ CULA

[@carnivaltym]

Joe. Walsh always said that.

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

Never give up with artificial reasons.

[@francispascual6404]

Yep

[@339Jackscarify]

OI DIZ HUMIE HAZ A BIG NOB! RED GOEZ FASTAH N HAZ KILLA TONZ

[@teddydavis3504]

That’s the most extreme relic job I’ve seen someone do. It must be worth a lot of money now.

[@StefanoRod]

HAHAAH

[@kokindenom]

:)

[@rajdeepganguli2274]

How many guitars do you have? Darrell: 40.125

[@TheGhostGuitars]

Actually I'd think it's 40,124.30 now, lol! Edit: oops excuse me, thought that was a comma (,) not a period (.). Never read posts while riding a bus that's rattling and banging along on a bumpy road. All ye see are a blur as the phone (and ye) gets rattled up/down.

[@frownonline]

Always one short of enough.

[@rajdeepganguli2274]

@Florian Späth 40 + 0.125 Because he just trimmed this guitar into pieces

[@normanmastrian]

4

[@cuauhtemocmorisco3493]

Lol

[@MrPhantomLord11]

May we take a moment and appreciate what this guy does? He cuts guitars, he buys lots of guitars, amps, pedals, pickups, different strings etc...just to give us the knowledge and facts for free, meanwhile costing him big bucks. Cheers up, mate! As a thank you i like on all videos and watch em until the end as a way to return the favor. Keep up the good work and we will keep supporting you. All the best from Bulgaria!

[@randomdude93-93]

Absolutely man! I was actually hoping to do some work to shape my left handed Jackson . Now I know I can afford to cut some off.

[@opidonorman8833]

Cheers indeed

[@metalfatigue]

If you were constantly buying guitars and losing money, he wouldn't be smiling all the time. Either he can afford to buy stuff to try, or he makes enough from KZbin and t-shirts to cover the cost.

[@FrankCosbyNo-Relation]

He makes more money from the video

[@arbazann]

Alternate title: How To Make A Travelcaster.

[@jazzram_]

Lol

[@anuragmishra1315]

*to show you the power of flex tape I sawed this guitar in half*

[@jahardo]

That's a lot of damage

[@JohnSmith-ns4ip]

But does the flex tape add more sustain? Hmm......

[@peterdeven9493]

@@JohnSmith-ns4ip thinking emoji

[@scottkendall5655]

HA! Good one.

[@ikarus1111a]

NOW THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE!

[@dailupwarlord]

I've seen some pretty heavy relic jobs, but this is a whole new level.

[@JD-mn7sv]

I've been saying this for years. The bridge affects 95% of the sustain along with the density of it's metal composition. Fixed bridges sustain longer than floating since the springs absorb string oscillation. The density of the wood the bridge rests on will give or take a negligible amount(denser wood=longer) since soft wood resonates and absorbs string oscillation (energy). It's simple physics.

[@DestructX]

So there is no other way than sustain pedal to have longer sustain on floating bridge?

[@JD-mn7sv]

That depends on what your goals are and the metal composition. Cheaper Floyd Rose bridges have softer metal whereas the Original FR has hardened metal and critical contact points. You can also buy thicker blocks for these tremolos which also help sustain since more metal makes oscillation absorption from this bridge more difficult, hence increased sustain.

[@DestructX]

@@JD-mn7sv I have original FR. When I bend a string and do a vibrato after my tone dies too soon, so I have to hit the string multiple times in 1 vibrato that it lasts and it's annoying.

[@JD-mn7sv]

It's normal to lose sustain after a string bend regardless of bridge, especially after returning to the original note. Keep in mind when you bend a string you are increasing the pitch which means string oscillation is faster. That stored energy while bending up, now dissipates once the string returns to it's original pitch. Add to that the sustain of that string has now opened back up further decreasing sustain. This is why bending up sounds more even in volume, but releasing a bend tends to warrant an extra pluck depending on note duration.

[@DanzoSrife]

@@JD-mn7sv How do u get those long ass sustained Nothing Else Mattere bends at the end of the song? :D

[@zackatreides8025]

I did it on my acoustic guitar and there is a huge difference!;) Studio one❤️

[@sheldon6864]

@@KeithBlade lol....😮

[@anthonystark5412]

@@KeithBlade I'm not sure that I believe your assertion. Please cite your references.

[@anthonystark5412]

@@KeithBlade We're kidding, dude. It's obvious that cutting away parts of an acoustic guitar will deprive it of its resonance. I get the impression that you're genuinely trying to help, so no hard feelings, okay?

[@bentlyist]

@@KeithBlade I think you may have missed that he was being a bit funny 😉

[@mcbiker77]

This can off course only be done on acoustic guitar if an acoustic saw is used...

[@tdtom1376]

do heavier gutarists sustain longer?

[@danterosales6985]

Yes. Havent you seen jared dines video on a phat bass tone??

[@kimthompson5871]

td tom lol or just eat more ?

[@RandyRelish99]

I’m pretty big and I can only last a few seconds

[@tdtom1376]

alas, it is too late to ask B B King or Leslie West... or even cousin IZ.

[@stankfanger1366]

I have an '84 Les Paul and I know the back pain sustains longer. I think the tree they cut it from was petrified.

[@scott22v]

How to convert your strat to a steinberger

[@MartinMichiels]

Squierberger !

[@5roundsrapid263]

I was going to say this!

[@anhu7393]

Bite your tongue. That's like chipping away at a rotting tree stump until you have an exquisite marble statue.

[@thetincan_man]

Nice

[@RahulDas-zy6ut]

thinking the same

[@carlrae7129]

When I was running a music store my opinion was always “If it sounds better to you, then it sounds better.”

[@R.Stridstrom]

That is probably the best way to look at it. And, if you got one you are happy with, don't compare, ever - don't go looking for "greener grass" - because it's an neverending endeavour :)

[@manifestgtr]

Back before this debate was a “thing”, I thought it was a no brainer. Once I dove into it and watched all these tests, I eventually came to this conclusion. The parts of the guitar most responsible for your sound are the nut, saddle, pickups and most importantly, your technique. The reason you buy an expensive guitar is because the attention to detail means it’ll be more stable....tuning and intonation will stay put and your setups will last. Fret ends won’t poke out as much and often times it’ll feel better to play which will, in turn, make you play better. Not always but often. Not only that but you buy into a company’s legacy when you buy one of their best instruments. My American made fenders and martins (this is a different story...wood matters more here) are very inspiring to play because I’m strumming an instrument which has a storied lineage with roots tracing back not only to some of the most significant events in popular music but our country’s history as well. Don’t buy a high end solid body electric because you think the mahogany is going to sound better. Buy it because you want one...because it feels good to play...and because, in some weird way, it connects you to some of the greatest musical minds who’ve ever lived. And you know what? If you don’t wanna shell out the cash or somehow feel that these companies are “ripping you off” by charging what they do, buy something cheaper. There are so many great offerings under $500 nowadays, it’s almost mind-boggling.

[@edwindude9893]

manifestgtr gibberish. I make nuts out of 12 different materials. It’s the fit that makes the only difference.

[@JC-11111]

What's crazy about this is my cheapest guitar is actually built better than the one I paid 6x the price for. It's heavier, body is thicker, notes sustain longer, it's got a 1 piece maple neck with figuring and some striping. It stays in tune better and has more overall playability. The bridge is made better and returns to pitch or whatever its called. The thing is amazing. E Especially for the $24 I paid for it in that auction! 😁

[@moonwrusse5649]

@@JC-11111 he said the fit... so u assume your cheap plastic nut had a good fit? And make this conclusion after a single test?

[@peteanddrake4242]

I play lots of instruments from piano to guitar and drums. As a musician, I have never played a more expensive instrument because of it's "lineage"--forgive me but I can't think of anything better to say than "that is stupid". I play an instrument that responds to my playing style and delivered the tone I need. Sometimes (where wood is involved), that means playing an older instrument because it has resonated and cured and "played in" over time. Buying and playing something for it's "storied lineage" has nothing to do with music and everything to do with ego and hubris.

[@peteanddrake4242]

@@JC-11111 lol:) we all own that guitar and resent the little bastard for being so good:)

[@maratstrat]

I guess we can say that you've made CAstratocaster

[@CJVideoProductions]

This needs to be pinned! Amazing comment!

[@dytakeda]

Winner.

[@boseefusmacmurphy1156]

Marat not enough people got your joke

[@valvenator]

Best comment ever, period!!!

[@jerrymckenzie6205]

Sounded like the low end thinned out a bit as the body got smaller.

[@gropifiasco]

attack yes, but it resolve at the the same level

[@jayz6008]

I had always said this and I even posted about it on a forum and most people called me crazy.

[@EvilSean62]

@@jayz6008 yup me too ive been telling ppl for a while now ... also for tone ... wood isnt magnetic so unless your pups are truly microphonic , forget it

[@sideoutside]

He picked the one note different. Nothing changed..

[@michaelhulsey201]

I heard it completely differently. For me, the low end boosted as the body got smaller. Maybe it did go more into the low-mid bands and my ears pick that up better?

[@currencylad7125]

That looks totally sick! Can you test on a 1959 gold top Les Paul? I'm thinking of doing this mod.

[@andrewkim3679]

Currency Lad oh no

[@adamskold6395]

@@drakey27 Refin of a Burst, so it's basically worthless anyway

[@heehee7373]

This is what expensive experiment means

[@dildonicplague]

Do it with a 59 gold top Les Paul vs 68 strat with that KZbin money!

[@arnottclark6959]

I love how this demonstration destroyed the sustain myth ! That was so informative !

[@Augrills]

How did it destroy the myth? The heaviest guitar sustained the most. I don’t know how he comes to the conclusion when the data shows it did have a consistent effect on sustain

[@coolguy3183]

You should use wood glue and put it back together to look like Frankenstein stitches

[@TheGhostGuitars]

That's do-able with biscuit joints. ;)

[@guitarscarsetc.etc.7215]

That would be cool

[@gregszy8575]

To have real franken-guitar it should be nailed or stapled together

[@artiefischel2579]

You really need a warning on this. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, for fear of having dreams about a smiling guy with a chainsaw coming after my guitars. Oh, jeez, it's gonna be a long night...

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

😂 Keep your guitars close to you tonight! 😄😄😄

[@ru14jazz]

I thought to myself, "surely he's not going to REALLY cut that guitar up" and then ZZZZZZZZZ he does. I had to push my eyes back into my head and pick my jaw up off of the floor. Oh, the PAIN. lol

[@TheGhostGuitars]

Hey at least he didn't do that with a $5k+ American Fender...or did he...?! (Frantically scrolls back video, no sign of the headstock, oh no!, checks the description, YES!) A Squier Affinity Strat. Ok, couldn't get much lower than that except perhaps a Starcaster. You can rest easy. ...Altho my 2 modded Starcasters may have nightmares tonight. LOL

[@artiefischel2579]

@@DarrellBraunGuitar I fully expect a video where you put that back together in some artistic fashion, so get those bits out of the trash. Frankenfretless ?

[@alanwalker1698]

@@TheGhostGuitars Actually a Starcaster is more of a guitar then an Affinity. It's full size , unlike the thinner Affinity.

[@dimasnameee23]

After the sawing part ,i involuntarily blow at the screen.😂😂

[@zane.walker]

Great video. Really insightful test results (although I am not too surprised). I also think you did an excellent job putting the results into perspective, especially for a topic that can bring out strong emotions on both sides of the argument.

[@SamGlasser]

Les Paul already demonstrated this with a paper mache guitar, playing with real musicians, no one knew the difference. There seemed to be some skepticism regarding the concept of a solid body guitar verses a hollow body such as the old f hole guitars. This was when electric guitars were first being experimented with.

[@littlebritain64]

The test that every guitarist wished to see but no guitarist in the world dared to do!!

[@bigbokiptd]

I would glue it back together :D Thank you so much for the great experiment Darrell!!!

[@DylanTalksTone]

Darrel you beat me to it! This was on my list. Great job!!

[@mmore]

you now own the heaviest relic Stratocaster in the world courtesy of curiosity science and a black and decker jigsaw 😂😂😂

[@j_freed]

And also the lightest.

[@TheGhostGuitars]

VERY worn down, lol!

[@anthonyc1883]

mmmoris1360 Yeah, and wait til the Fender Custom Shop sees this. I can see a Masterbuilt version pushing 10 grand.

[@JWCFB]

Kudos to Darrell. Man, talk about going the extra mile. What a fantastic video!

[@TheUnderemployedGuitarGuys]

Hi Darrell,i have a question related to this test. Can it be that the trem system might be affecting the similarity in tone and sustain? Since the strings would be routed through the block, it'll take the mass of the block for the resonance. But when it comes to guitars that have through body stringing, it essentially uses the full body mass. Would you say that for this type of through body guitars? Do they not get affected by the shape and mass of the same?

[@russianbot2397]

I was always skeptical about weight and tone woods ever since i was a teenager in the mid 90's. You just confirmed my suspicions with this experiment. Thank you so much.

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Well, after this at least you know those strap-locks and locking tuners you added aren't gonna change your tone! :p The guitar did become slightly more "mid/upper-mid" focused as I mentioned in the video, but the EQ charts show that it still had a nice usable balance across all frequencies :)

[@landonbailey]

white guitars sound better. ask Billy Corgan 😄

[@joacovidal]

Small changes like those (even big changes like cutting chunks of wood) are pretty safe for the tone. The big differences are between wood species and maybe in the bridge

[@tdtom1376]

what is the white stuff in the video?

[@landonbailey]

@@tdtom1376 Canada

[@tdtom1376]

@@landonbailey Oh! Sorry, it's summer here in New Zealand. glad someone caught my being cheeky.

[@itchynerve]

He's the coolest, chillest guitar dude on here dude that's why I like him man i don't need cheesy bros tryin get some laughs, i need my guy DB he's the man chill gets to the point cool accent and just a likeable guy, keep rockin Darrell!

[@squareeyedgit]

Agreed!

[@jzen1455]

That one wackyJim Carrey-esque bespectacled Canadian guitar dude on You Tube is very knowledgeable about guitar equipment and has some great reviews, but his guitar expertise is often marred by his hyper facial gesticulations and sudden jolting body movements, which I find overbearing at times. I understand the appeal, but it's just not my cuppa tea.

[@mrchrisbeaver]

Listen to the fat E on these clips at 8:40 and just concentrate on that E resonating while he picks the other strings and you will hear the depth of that note resonates less and less with each cut

[@lordlemmingman]

That's exactly what I felt as well

[@crazywisdom2]

So then, i.e. lighter guitars are necessarily better guitars. It s a tradeoff?

[@bennega1615]

Subscribed! Cheerful and informative channel! Love your content man! Keep up the good work, also your subscriber comunity seem to have a great sense of humor!

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Welcome to the channel!

[@bennega1615]

@@DarrellBraunGuitar Thank you! Channel cowbell already on for updates!

[@landonbailey]

That poor Fender Elite Stratocaster! Well now you have a travel guitar 😁

[@PrivilegedWhiteMan]

its a squier...

[@MBoss3005]

That's exactly what I thought!

[@landonbailey]

@@PrivilegedWhiteMan i know 😊

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Close! It's a Custom Shop 60s Heavy Relic Strat 😉

[@Szten]

@@DarrellBraunGuitar Well you won't get any heavier relic, will you?

[@guitarnist]

Do you think it is a fair comparison using a Strat??? The Tremolo keeps the strings suspended and the bridge not in the wood like a non Trem guitar!! Might be an interesting second examination.

[@khargrar]

Plus the pickups are screwed on a floating plastic plate.

[@Dystxnn]

Yess! Thank you, sir! I'd love to see this brilliant idea come to life.

[@transtremm]

A wax potted pickup also changes sustain qualities

[@BluesnG]

As a musician, I really appreciate this video.

[@redelk2974]

wonderful video on sustain...truly eye-opening experiment. very well done. excellent experiment technique..thank you sir, very informative not to mention very brave! Musta been fun cutting it up though...

[@mariogamutan6513]

You're not auditioning for Discovery Channel, are you? 😁

[@alexandrevc]

Great video. This initiatives help a lot to put an end to many unscientific conceptions regarding guitars and their construction. May I suggest you another topic? Tele bridge stringing: through bridge vs through body

[@ArmanGrim]

thanks for this great test man , keep it up

[@thetonekingofficial]

Interesting video. BTW - is that sonar you are using?

[@pastorthomaso]

Dude, awesome shirt!

[@kenmasters007]

I think the neck has more impact to sustain. I have a headless guitar and there is a noticeable difference. Great video.

[@celtenator]

Great experiment! I'm about to build a lap steel, and knowing this help immensely in my design and wood choice, thanks very much!

[@yogaaditama3392]

Love the video. Really appreciate it dude

[@hawkdl2]

"Weight" or "size" in my experience only comes up (intentionally or not) in regards sustain as a surrogate for density - e.g., a 10 lb Les Paul vs. a 8 lb Les Paul - same size but very different density, and some argue different sustain. Further, the resonance that might matter is probably most centered on the bulk of material between the headstock and the bridge, including the density of the neck, with the rest of the guitar contributing less to sustain. The question would be: would a very dense-wood bodied guitar have more or less sustain than a very light-wood bodied guitar - of the same size.

[@bobboitt3126]

Im going to guess NO. I had a pine telecaster that sustained just as long as my Mahogany/maple top Les Paul. Pine is no where near as dense.

[@StratMatt777]

@@bobboitt3126 I think it is likely important to also consider the bridge type in head-to-head comparisons, like string-thru tele vs Les paul style ("Tone Pro" is probably not the right word since that is a brand name). I think that Paul Reed Smith is correct when he says that guitars are subtractive... if that is correct, I suspect that LPs are probably warmer because the highest treble frequencies are lost due to the softer density of the mahogany. Since you are the LP owner here, what do you think?

[@isodoublet]

The overall acoustic impedance of the body is effectively a function of mass, actually. The density comes out integrated over the volume.

[@StratMatt777]

@@isodoublet Also we are giving no consideration to the direction of the wood's grain with regard to whether or not it is parallel with the strings (of course it is the neck covers most of the distance between the nut and bridge). Important to note: I am not a physicist and I don't have a clue what I am talking about!

[@RWulff007]

Grasping onto straws 🤣🤣 (Just kidding)

[@laughingdaffodils5450]

Thanks for the video! So good to see someone doing tests instead of just spewing opinion. So the body weight isn't so important, how about the headstock? Does the fender fatfinger really work or are they pure placebo?

[@donwade-di8ny]

Darrell, you make the coolest darn videos! Always informative and entertaining! Thank you sir!

[@jeremiahchavez912]

I would love to see that guitar hang on the wall for all your other videos. And props to the new into.

[@stevefleth]

I heard that the larger CBS head stocks have more sustain than the pre-CBS head stocks on Strats. Darrell, are you ready to cut into the head stock?

[@RobertLandrum13]

If you can't hear a tone difference between full and 30% you need new ears. The low E is the most obvious sign.

[@scottgun]

Yep. I think all of us, including Darrell hears a difference. The point is not as big a difference as one would be inclined to think.

[@danielkelleyhoward]

Scottgun not with flatwounds and squier pickups

[@javiercortes9093]

Yes, men. I noticed that difference

[@tzvitombak5671]

It's miniscule dude

[@indoshakermaker]

If you played live before you'd know that the audience wouldn't know the difference.

[@jmitzenmacher5]

I’m guessing the strap was why the sustain went up for the last cut. Mass helps with sustain a little bit, but only because it makes it harder for your body to dampen the vibrations. The strap isolates the guitar from your body, so it meets less resistance.

[@sirspongadoodle]

It makes such a small difference that its not worth worrying about.. you cant tell me how heavy a guitar is just from hearing it.

[@XylyXylyX]

I would like to know if a neck-through guitar has more sustain than a bolt-on. I hope that the difference is big enough that it will be very evident and make all of the other differences between the test guitars unlikely to be the cause of the sustain. I guess you would have to have the same pickups and string gauge at least. Possible?

[@coolsprus101]

Kudos for actually doing this out on the snow.

[@quigley4440]

Drill some holes across the body thru the sustaining blocks and see if that changes things? Maybe Les Paul was right building the first guitar on a plank of a 2x4? Electric guitars just need a foundation to bolt down the mechanical parts. The wood is just window dressing then and a way to boost up the cost? Might save the rainforest by using a cheap composite material.

[@modhiab]

That was very interesting!!! Thank you for explanation.

[@brandonodnarb730]

Now you have a Strandberg!!

[@RichardsGuitarshop]

Awesome video and you have just upset so many people who will swear the heavier the guitar the "better". LOL

[@David-ob2gn]

You can hear in the video that the more of the guitar is removed, the less bass there is and the sound becomes thinner and more thock-y. You can see it if you look at the EQs from 8:40 onward: The more the guitar is removed, the faster and more the bass fades after playing a note.

[@sergioserramusic]

I can hear differences in the tone, the 30% body was way thinner than the full body, but of course it was not HUGE

[@Szten]

Wondering if you could have heard it in a blind test.

[@OtherTheDave]

Szten I think I could *probably* reliably tell the difference, but not which one was the “heavier” guitar. They just sounded different, kinda like maybe the same kind of difference you’d get between two strats that came off the factory on different days or something. Detectable, but nothing to worry about.

[@jimcarter6669]

Absolutely I could hear less lower end when he took off the 30%!

[@jimcarter6669]

@@Szten I did it in a blind test. Less lower end at 30% less. No question.

[@Szten]

@@jimcarter6669 You did it on blind test? How?

[@Can.M.]

Very useful video. Thanks a lot!

[@Mattguitarmania]

I really enjoy your channel and I appreciated this video very much. It didn't turn out like I expected but it helps me determine which guitars I want to purchase. Thank you very much!

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Thanks! I'm glad to help :)

[@danyavilaoficial]

“ Oh by the way.....this video was sponsored by Steinberger...”

[@m7alan7johnson7]

Love my Steinbergers!!!

[@DBSG1976]

I was wondering if my new Soloist had more sustain because it's body is bigger and 3 more pounds on average than my Strats. I never noticed a difference, but I thought it was my playing...thanks for the experiment Darrell!

[@debaxeldan]

One of the most interesting videos I've ever seen on electric guitars! You are a genius!

[@josuegomez4470]

Fantastic information test mr darrell. Thanks

[@uptopmikep7065]

Interesting comparison Darrell. Thanks. It's really illuminating and really silences the BS discussions and claims about "tone woods". Your point about the feeling and resonance against your body is more meaningful when choosing a guitar. Thanks much mate!

[@UltraD52]

You should have left it plugged in a recorded it while cutting!

[@wolfelliza7850]

Need tabs

[@user-fw1xu7ve2n]

@@wolfelliza7850 also need a cover to follow correct timing

[@wolfelliza7850]

@@user-fw1xu7ve2n 21/32 time signature

[@user-fw1xu7ve2n]

@@wolfelliza7850 what was this comment about, i forgot lmaoo

[@wolfelliza7850]

@@user-fw1xu7ve2n That's a mystery!

[@allendoss1032]

I'm looking at either a epiphone st 400 or a dot. I hand a strat and an Ibanez years ago and a line 6 50 watt and they were stolen. I was just starting lessons. I am at a point I can get 1 guitar now. Any suggestions between the 2. I have small hands fat fingers if it matters. Thanks so much.

[@henkehakansson2004]

All this reminds me of an old avant-garde classical organist/pianist in Sweden, Karl-Erik Welin who once "played" a grand piano in a televised concert with a chainsaw. He sawed it too scraps during a 10-15 minutes piece (ha!), and actually accidentally cut himself in the leg, so the blood flowed quite visibly. Directly after it he got interviewed and was asked "Oh dear, that didn't wen't very well, you hurt yourself", in which he replied "No, I played a wrong note..." .

[@walterkasper467]

I have noticed that my sg is more affected by the band when playing on stage my les paul. Sounds more the same if I am playing alone or with the band but what a great experiment. Playing for about 60 years. I got a lot of over priced wood. Get a guitar that is comfortable and some great pickups. I like wagers. Thanks for the great video

[@TealTactics]

*2:00** when you buy that "Used - Like New" guitar on Reverb*

[@gustavoazevedo9736]

LOL

[@fishguru73]

What about overall tone? Did he plug straight into the interface jack and just measure the pickup output or did he mic a cab?

[@guitarhobbywithdannythemedic]

Great video!

[@chesapeake566]

Love these myth buster videos.

[@SchielMusic]

A Stratocaster is probably not the best guitar to test this concept on, since the springs in the vibrato bridge tend to dampen the sustain already. A hard tail guitar like Telecaster or a Les Paul would be a much better test.

[@XIIImmoralist]

This doesn't make sense. Dampened sustain doesn't matter so long as the tests remain on the same equipment. Here's a vague analogy to help you understand: 200% of 100 is 200. 200% of 10 is 20. Guess what? The ratio is still 2/1 despite using a smaller number in the second calculation (Purposefully did this to help draw the connection of sustain that isn't dampened vs sustain that is dampened). no matter what the initial number we multiply is, its still getting multiplied by 2. This is what we call a *control* (the type of guitar would be the control here since this video only uses one guitar) and is why we are able to make accurate measurements while having a *variable* (a variable is something that can change, root of the word bring vary which basically means different), in this case the independent variable (the variable we chAnge i.e. watering grass with different liquids) being how much weight is cut off, which determines the outcome of the dependent variable (the variable that changes based on the conditions we apply i.e. how well the grass grows based on what liquid was used to water it) which in this case is the sustain time.

[@SchielMusic]

@@XIIImmoralist Sorry but I disagree. The springs in the bridge of a stratocaster decouple the strings from the mass of the body.

[@XIIImmoralist]

@@SchielMusic what does it matter? This video is determining how weight impacts sustain. Decoupled or dampened or whatever it may be there was still a correlation between dropping mass and losing sustain. The % of sustain lost based on the % of weight cut will be the same.

[@SchielMusic]

@@XIIImmoralist It matters because if we're testing the effect of increased mass on sustain, it's better to eliminate the additional variable of the springs in the bridge. If mass really does increase the sustain, it should be MUCH more noticeable on a hard tail guitar.

[@XIIImmoralist]

@@SchielMusic but that's the point of using the guitar as the control, which leads back to my original statement to where it doesn't matter as long as he continues to do this test *on this guitar and this guitar only* which he does. Edit: the percentages stay the same and are accurate so long as this control is kept

[@grog5564]

Question Darrell, as you know tha tail piece, where the strings and body become one so to speak. Does the How of attachment affect tone and sustain. Example the strat and the Telecaster. My Tele, the strings go through the body and over the tail piece. They involve the body a lot more than the Strat does.

[@mikaelakkus]

Is tht also mean if i use orginal fender pu (57/62) i can gain orginal fender tones for my 97 korean squier?

[@jaikcooper8999]

Its funny you did this video. I had seen John Mayall and the bluesbreakers. And John Mayall plays a strat configuration guitar with a basically chopped up body and is really small. Hearing it being played it diddnt seemed it didnt loose any sustain and still sounded great

[@dangreving1094]

I’ll be damned... i was totally expecting a different result,.. huh, wow ok then awesome. Thanks for sacrificing your guitar!

[@backlom]

Dan Greving I agree. Thank you for taking one for the team

[@---rs6og]

which type of electric guitar is best for beginner.....???

[@cliffw2000cliff]

Good Job Man! 🤠

[@aeskaters1592]

I'm thinking that possibly the increased sustain that players believe exists in a heavier instrument, is not a function of the total mass at all but rather a function of the density of the wood itself. I would love to see this demonstration, swapping the neck and electronics between a very heavy strat body and very light strat body. Obviously the woods would be different and this may the source of increased sustain that may (or may not) be real..Cheers and Thanks

[@amorfraternal3150]

Interesting!!! Having this mythbuster issue solved can you try a lighter weight guitar with Temperament Fret vs. a normal weight that is to test what really causes sustain to improve significantly

[@arashmohtadi1603]

Hello, does this mean that high mass bridges such as the brass PRS bridges make a huge difference in tone and sustain vs Chinese pot metal ones found in SE?

[@runningwithscissors0911]

Fun! Great, informative video!

[@henrikemppainen2511]

If more weight made guitars sound better, we'd be gluing blocks of lead to the body. If higher density made guitars sound better, we'd better make the body out of cast iron or steel. Plywood can get surprisingly heavy too, especially if it's made out of very thin aircraft grade sheets. If lower weight made the guitar sound better, we'd be better off dumping wood. Funny that some people don't like the sound of a metallic nut, but most everyone seems happy with metallic frets! Where are my bone frets?! I am left wanting a stainburger style guitar.

[@Lantertronics]

Indeed, a lot of the discourse is contradictory. I hear people say things like "this guitar is made of a super dense wood and is really heavy, it must have great sustain" but they'll also say "this guitar is so light and resonant, it must have great sustain"

[@TheGuitarPit]

Great video concept. I have a Strandberg that weighs 4.5lbs and it sustains with the rest of my guitars. Guess you proved it! :)

[@CarcPazu]

That's because a Strandberg guitar is made with tonewood made out of old viking boats that had a lot of epic and glorious adventures.

[@tomaszmarecik7493]

Hi, did you try such kind of experiment with preamp? I thing with high gain signal difference could be bigger

[@JMDERUMS]

Cool content!

[@blimeylimey13]

Great travel guitar!

[@tonepilot]

Did the owner of that guitar slug you in the right eye after he simply asked for a neck adjustment?

[@mikewhitfield2994]

TonePilot Can you relic my guitar for me? Um . . . Yes. Yes I can.

[@robertanthony9079]

Not sure if anyone picked up on this, but what seems to make the difference is the distribution of the mass of the body in terms of how even it is around the pickups. Thus, what you saw in the data and heard in the tone is a curvilinear U-Shaped effect. Greater sustain (and tone) the more even the bodyweight around the pickups, less sustain/tone the more uneven the mass around the pickups. The visual and audio data support it in this case.

[@amadeovictorprieto5919]

Do instrument plugs make a difference

[@VincentBakker1964]

Very cool experiment!!!! Great! It seems to me that lesser wood is more sustain if you look at the waveforms! You could take snips between 3rd and 4th second of the recordings and analyze them for RMS levels! It seems there is more energy in that region on the last takes... If you send me the wavs of your recording or share them on the net I could test that! Please share the raw data so us crazy guitar fools can analyze further!! Maybe I could do a test where we put a guitar body in a vice to make the body weightier... Myths are busted right here!!!!

[@Cr8Tron]

I was wondering if it was just me visually noticing this about the audio clips... Thanks for confirming that it's not! 😂

[@m6h24]

The resonance changed as you cut the guitar

[@CesarCordova]

What's the difference between resonance and sustain?

[@modestoney1577]

@@CesarCordova sustain is the length of the sound. resonance is the composition over overtones.

[@wiseguy9202]

Barely

[@modestoney1577]

@@wiseguy9202 Still. Barely an effect is still an effect. So the thesis, that the body has no effect at all is falsified. And who`s to say that it may not be more noticeable with better pickups for example, or when pickups are mounted directly to the body?

[@wiseguy9202]

Barely regarding resonance which mass does play an effect. Tone, not so much.

[@MustafaMertKazanc]

Was a good test. Great video.

[@grantgre]

The last tracing that is orange appears to have consistently higher picking amplitude how to explain that? This may explain The longer sustain?