Do I HAVE to study grammar to speak a language well?

[@raonei]

I just wanted to say that I passed my C2 Cambridge certification in English and eventually became a Cambridge examiner myself without ever leaving my country of origin (Chile). It is totally possible to do so. I was, and am, deeply passionate about the language and at just point I just stopped reading in my native language. I also spoke English almost every day, either online or at work. Nowadays I live in Germany and I'm trying to replicate that here, but I don't think I'll ever foster that amount of passion for any other language. English was my one true love.

[@nsevv]

It is supposed to speed up learning. Example, It will take days/weeks to figure out all the pronouns just with Comprehensible Input. Reading a grammer book chapter on pronouns is less than one day of study. Also If your native language don't have gendered nouns and etc you may never figure out all the la, l', le, ces, cet, cette in french or understand them wrongly. I have been ignoring stuff for weeks like moi-meme that I encountered while reading french since I sort of understood by context. Couple of days ago I looked it up in a grammar book, in barely 15mins of reading I now know what it mean exactly and how to use it and all the different variants of it. I had the same experience with reflexive verbs. Just reading a grammar book casually once without worry too much about anything too complex is good and save a lot of time. Do both, CI and grammer. Just CI is an extremely slow process. I naturally learned (without actually trying to learn mandarin) mandarin through just CI (movies and hanging out with natives) and immersion it took almost 10 years before I was talking somewhat easily to natives in mandarin about common everyday stuff and I still can't read.

[@tullochgorum6323]

I like the approach in the older Assimil courses. You mainly learn from context, but they give basic grammar notes every now and again to help you understand what you are learning. The aim is more to increase your awareness of the pattern when you come across it. This can speed up your learning, rather than having to work it out by pure deduction like an infant. After all, it takes kids 10 years to reach a 10-year-old language level - and we simply don't have that kind of time.

[@paulwalther5237]

I’ve never drugged anyone 😂. Like a lot of things with learning it all depends. Some people get more from immersion than others. And studying grammar works better for some people. Personally I study grammar along with doing immersion until I feel like I don’t need it anymore. I’m aiming for B2 though. I do think most people could get away with just using a dictionary or a translation to assist them with picking up grammar without studying grammar per se up to a B2 level. But especially with languages like Korean or Japanese I just am so lost that I do a lot of grammar study.

[@olelokanaka]

If a language learner struggles with knowing what to say to a native speaker in certain contexts, this isn’t necessarily an indication that they need to study more grammar. Instead, this issue is often more related to the need for increased exposure to authentic language use and cultural context rather than purely grammatical study. Explanations in the L1 may help, but all you gotta say is “say it this way”

[@shamicentertainment1262]

Theres a German grammar point I’ve noticed but have procrastinated looking up. Sometimes it seems a feminine noun and it’s sounding adjectives/Artikels can take an -en declension instead of an -e. I don’t think I will just intuit this unless I look it up and practice it

[@darkreycon1528]

I was born in Italy and can speak Italian fluently but my parents are Romanian, I learned it just by talking and listening to my parents, no grammar nothing else

[@christopherellis2663]

No grammar, no syntax, no language.

[@christopherellis2663]

Can you? You may, if you can pay. (English)

[@captainpugwash2317]

I don't need to know what, can you? You may, and if you can pay. Did you look those up on Google before you edited them🤔

[@nsevv]

That opened a can of worms.

[@captainpugwash2317]

I have never been a fan of grammar.i,m learning spanish at the moment, maybe in the future I will learn the grammar but not too intense, we're it fry's my brain 😂

[@christopherellis2663]

Your English is execrable

[@nsevv]

Don't have to be a fan of grammer to read a book on grammar.

[@Nikolai.A.McGuire]

YO, I was here first I might edit something after but I was here first

[@Alec72HD]

Yes, learning grammar of your target language IN your target language is useful. No, reading about grammar in your native language is a waste of time. This channel is being hijacked by some lame old school methodology.