Do I Need a New Timing Chain? GM Check Engine Code P0016, Crankshaft, Camshaft Correlation Issue

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Do you have a GM vehicle that has gotten the check engine code P0016? Other than the code, you might not even notice any symptoms of this big problem. Stretching of the timing chains can get the crank and cam shafts out of sync, which is bad news for your vehicle's engine. This problem especially appears on 6 cylinder engines! In this video, Andy diagnoses and then replaces the stretched timing chains on one of our vehicles equipped with GM's 3.6 liter V6 engine.
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[@10947792]

Sir, this is an outstanding video / tutorial. I've done considerable research on the reasons why my GMC Acadia throws a P0017 fault code. Your video ties all the issues with the numerous timing fault codes together and I now fully understand the issues. watching you disassemble and reinstall the chains illustrated with complete clarity what it means when a technician states your timing chains have 'stretched'. seeing the difference between the length of travel difference between the new and old tensioners turned on my internal light bulb as to how the chains physically stretch.....thanks for helping me figure this out. the level of detail and you your ability to teach / instruct is exceptional. Many thanks.

[@ekimoguneleniyan9945]

I had NO idea that it was an engine out job when I clicked on the video! You're a Champ for just rolling with it and staying chill through it all!My hat's off to ALL of you (Camera handler too!) Great work guys! -100

[@tonymills6678]

By far and above the best video by this company that they have done. Most of the time when Im doing a search and their video options come on I skip by them. Not any more! This is exactly whats needed ! Very very good detail! Excellent video.

[@mikenagy3728]

I test drove a 2012 Lexus with a timing chain. It had 117,000 mile. I called the dealer who had worked on this car since new and asked how many times he had seen a timing chain problem in a Lexus. "Never" was the answer. He had been with Lexus for 12 years.

[@airsoftgodfather]

Yep anything made by Toyota and Honda is good to go in that department

[@downtoearth7737]

Thank you for very detailed video on replacing the chains with the engine out. I had my chains done at 120k km (I'm in Canada) and now 5 yrs and only 5000km later, I am getting occasional P0008 code (same code that I had 5 yrs ago). I will do the job on my own and "in vehicle" this time. Previously I had it done at the GM dealership for $2500, which I though was not too bad of a price. I own 2010 Enclave and strongly believe that allowing engine oil to go low is the major culprit for chain failure .... and these engines are notorious for that. I've always owned GM vehicles and I always subjected them to an average care, but I am not petty enough to check oil level every second day if I don't see any leaks. These motors however are known to have "unexpected" oil level issues, and you must check oil level at least once per week or more often when doing longer trips. Before each of my 2 occurrences with P0008 code I found my engine to be missing 3.5 quarts of oil at no leaks and no check engine light (until is too late)!!!! I don't understand why GM did not introduce additional low oil sensor for so many years!!! There should be a class action lawsuit for that! Anyways, on all GM engines, do yourself a favor and check your oil level (+ oil quality) often and replace your oil every 5000-8000km (3.5-5k miles). My close friend owns a 2008 Enclave with 320k km and he did not have problems with his timing chains yet! He changes oil every 5000km, and not when the vehicle tells him to do so. In older GM vehicles (even only 1 generation older) timing chains were installed in factory for life!!! I still own a 17 year old 2006 Impala with lots of miles that I have often neglected with no engine problems at all. I heard that In early 2000s engineers were asked to make motors more "green" (not necessarily better on gas!, but less polluting), and this is what they came up with, unfortunately. If you will be doing the job by yourself watch other videos on 3.6l GM engines (there is lots of those on you tube) and pick and choose pieces of good advice from all of them. I definitely picked up many good remarks from it, although not all 100% was kosher :). Thank you again for this video. God Bless.

[@ahmedeid4567]

This is the most accurate and perfect explanation for the process thank you

[@charlesstpierre8]

So captivating. After about an hour in I find myself asking for more.

[@antoniomarc7174]

WoW what a job that was. I don’t see any other way of properly doing this without dropping the motor like you did great work buddy you really have some patients.

[@douglash3129]

To all that were involved making this video, Outstanding Job !👍👍 I don't know of another video this complete!

[@johnsonbobo2376]

Thx for the video dude. I've known of two with in 3 weeks. 1 job i took and 1 I didn't have time for. Great info dude

[@lukewalker1051]

You have great talent. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[@bearing_aficionado]

Oh man the dreaded P0016 code. My 2011 Ford F-150 Ecoboost had that code and it was my timing chain that was stretched. $3500 later she runs great!!!

[@mgrella63]

youre basically a surgeon on cars! Wow!!! Im impressed! To me that wouldve been a total nightmare! Thank God for mechanics!!! Im having the timing chains done on my 2012 Buick Enclave this week. Hope to God theyre as good as you are

[@1AAuto]

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[@HotRod-wv4vm]

Getting tired just watching you work 😃

[@andrewthomas7654]

Wow....what a video....1A Auto is masterful about producing repair videos....I watch this channel all the time and the productions are EXCELLENT!!!!!!!

[@jorvega123]

People buy Toyota or Honda save yourself headache and money and time. You pay more up front but it pay itself the long run seriously.

[@SimonBarsinister]

I agree. No more GM for me.

[@DashCamSerbia]

Yes! Long video. Thank you!

[@ja8898]

You have a whole series on the obs Chevy k1500 which is my other vehicle. Now you have these videos on my 2012. Coincidence yeah, but I really appreciate the in depth long format videos on these. Thank you!

[@kingnasim2692]

Many many thanks bro for your video

[@rideordieguy1]

Great video very detailed and organized 👍

[@HugoPoblano]

amazing job sir!! great work!

[@CarlyzClozet]

Thank you for this video. I think that my timing chain problem has ruined my engine. Now it appears that my engine needs to be replaced 😪. 2009 Chevy Traverse LT... really need this car!

[@SimonBarsinister]

That might have been actually cheaper or the same cost from what I have read.

[@hedga001]

Car Wizard was right, these are engine out jobs. Now I definitely am going to stick with my Lexus RX 350. You can’t beat the 2GR-FE V6 271,000 miles and hasn’t skipped a beat!

[@md2k8]

That is a lot better.

[@Hoserfishing]

I have to laugh at the comments touting the other brands over this one. I have worked on Lexus RX350 that were completely shot. Honda's 3.5 L that misfired on every cylinder due to their valve lash issue. They all have their problems folks.

[@airsoftgodfather]

@@Hoserfishing oh wow so you're really going to try to compare a 1 hour valve lash job to dropping an engine and doing timimg chains huh? Clown lol

[@elilopez2517]

If your doing this job check the cam phasers they are known to break also make sure there is a spacer behind them

[@michiganporter]

When its fixed put it up for sale asap

[@NORSTAR200100]

thanks you a lot really good job

[@guesswho1231]

1:35 P0008 and P0017 could also be present when it’s time for new timing chains and guides. I would replace the oil pump while I’m there as well. 😁❤️

[@danman9017]

good job

[@rocketrodlover]

God bless our mechanics! They are heroes ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@huckster66]

You should mention right away what size engine you have here. That is one HUGE job!👍

[@daveunknown01]

It says in the description.

[@robinsondiy9781]

Love this video. Have you thought of doing one in which you do not remove the engine from the vehicle?

[@7V8IVpride]

Seeing the engine getting lowered out and watching the engine go back in the vehicle gives me an idea of where everything is. Great video.

[@marvthedog1972]

great video. This is the only video i have seen now that actually shows that you need to put RTV on the timing cover. until now I didnt know if there was a need for RTV or if there was another gasket I had to buy or, if it just was milled to such a tight fit that you didnt need anything at all

[@tomilheirobarbalho6117]

Good job bro

[@Marcosvlogs847]

Good video love it the best 👍🏼

[@pontiacsrule8761]

Gm later on switched to a different pitch chain. That took care of the stretched timing chain issues. They also switched to 1 timing chain, instead of 3. This made it a lot less complex. There is a great video from Cloyees showing the engine already removed & doing the timing chain procedure. The engine should be removed to do this job. It's very labor intensive..

[@rigoarredondo1986]

Wat year did they switch?

[@chrisstromberg6527]

The engine does not need to be removed,it can be done in place.

[@SimonBarsinister]

@@chrisstromberg6527 Probably but very difficult. There is a video of a guy dropping the engine out in 1.5 hours. Would give you better access for a better job.

[@tvviewer4500]

Don't forget to check to see if the timing chain oil nozzle is clogged or if that pinhole is clogged on the intake.

[@amazinghappiness7692]

I loved it that he didn’t blue coat everything..👍

[@camdenboyle7551]

Nice video

[@danielcardona7095]

good video well explained the cost of the repair how much would it be and you sell the timing chain kit

[@johnsonbobo2376]

The cost of the repair if done by yourself is $200 bucks. If gm does it its like $5500. If a shop does the work its $3500

[@sjn7220]

Impressive!

[@macncheese1991]

this actually doesn't have to be done out of vehicle if you don't have access to a lift. it is just a little bit of a pain getting the timing cover in and out but it can be done just fine

[@DontSqueezeCharmet]

Just did one

[@ahb3296]

@@DontSqueezeCharmet would you say dropping engine is better or not?

[@chrisstromberg6527]

@@ahb3296 Dropping the engine would be ideal, but not everyone has a nice lift like this guy.

[@SimonBarsinister]

How do you get a nice seal gasket when putting it all back together it you don't drop the engine?

[@Sourpusscandy]

That’s absolutely horrible engineering! OMG.

[@dennisisaacs6315]

Where do get your timing chain kits? I see Mizumo on Amazon. Any experience with those?

[@BB-kw8vw]

NEVER EVER REMOVE THE CHAIN GUIDE ON THE OIL PUMP. This is part of the oil pump torque sequence and your oil pump will fail

[@airsoftgodfather]

No it won't 🤣

[@ryansmith1115]

yeah, you use a new oil pump.

[@stevesouthard4777]

believe not a good idea removing bolts on oil pump guide it can cause oil pump problems, just replace plastic guide it just snaps on

[@malcolmlee5499]

You put the engine in Stage 1 instead of Stage 2 when removing the "Right" secondary chain and just removed all 3 chains while in that stage. Other tutorials ans even the manual instructs to set Stage 2 and Stage 1 whem removing respective chains

[@mitchbatten8281]

Big job but worth watching.

[@poogzie]

Hi when u done stage 2 timing did u rotate the crank to the 8 o'clock position, i have ly7 engine bout to do my chains.

[@DashCamSerbia]

I am interested in a GM L61 engine block timing chain issues. Can you make a video regarding that?

[@olahautomotive5626]

Perfection,

[@marvinrottenberg2791]

This is a wonderful DYI for this engine. I have a 2015 Chevy Colorado with the same engine and is coming due for a timing chain replacement. I have the maintenance manuals but would still like to see your take on service for this vehicle. What is the possibility of doing a a video for the 2015 Chevy Colorado. Trying to debate if it would be easier to perform on vehicle or remove the engine.

[@ArmTheCreative]

Why is it I learn that every car I ever buy has big issues AFTER I buy it. :-(

[@davidfehr7646]

Good afternoon can you tell me what type of scan tool I would have to use to program a transmission or flush it

[@JDSWeather]

Please do a video on Airbag Warning light ie code coming on in a 2012 Hyundai Elantra I have said car its causes and fixes

[@jamesanderson4014]

Is this the same engine on the GMC Enclave 2008-2015 ???

[@swansboroautoandmechanical6164]

Persistent p0019 after 3 attempts. Sometimes idles perfect …. Intermittent chases itself. Suggestions? All new parts for timing including phasers. Checked crank reluctor as well😵‍💫

[@stephenlandrum]

I haven’t seen a process like this before

[@charlesstpierre8]

Wouldn't you want to wait for the RTV to fully cure before refilling some fluids?

[@cygnus1965]

Yes. 24 hours.

[@baljeetd]

Wow!

[@angelf9800]

I had code code p0017 on my 2010 Buick enclave and it was the crank sensor that was bad thank god.

[@ryansmith1115]

Great video, but I would say the only other thing you should have done is use a new oil pump.

[@nickayivor8432]

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[@BrianLopez-gz8ux]

Holy shieet everyone, it’s Bill Burr !

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

I bought a new 2012 Acadia and still have it with 160,000 miles on it. It’s had its oil changed every 5000 miles and 3 or 4 transmission drain and fills. I really want it to be my last car. It’s never seen salt, still has original brakes. The brake fluids have been changed 2 or 3 times. It’s got new struts and shocks. A few years back, there was a rattle on cold starts that I think was the chain/tensioner, but that has gone away on its own. I want it to be my last car. I drive it 3000 miles a yr. I’m willing to preemptively change out the chain before it breaks and ruins the valves. I drive it maturely. What are the chances that it will last another 10 or 15 yrs? I’m 70 yrs old. It doesn’t burn oil.

[@jamespoole1688]

Something went wrong with mine , I'm doing a timing chain replacment with 4 new phasers when started the crank was rotating fine , then I went to get the timing lined up I can't get the crank to turn anymore . Any suggestions ?

[@100sean1]

Can I get timing chains issue if I don’t put the new 4 actuator camshafts when doing a timing chain ?

[@davidcarlson2993]

Does anyone know what the threaded hole at 10-11 o’clock between the timing chain cover bolts 11 and 19 is for? Is it a weep hole or something, every picture and video I’ve seen there is no bolt there?! 37:15

[@prospexican]

did it fix the p0016? 2 hrs video and i still dont know if it did it.

[@dwightlee6164]

wow... Great . Awesome! i should give up doing by myself.. So , I'd like to ask you, what could it be the average cost to replace the timing chain ? Thank you!

[@mr.crunk4148]

I have a 2012 Hyundai sante fe trying to figure out do i need to replace my 02 sensors spark plugs or my timing belt its accelerating slow engine light blinking and truck shaking while driving

[@Mark-um3hm]

Hello, I have a 2000 Chrysler Concorde LXI, with 185,000 on it. I tried changing the belt myself, and apparently bent the rods? Just before this, I threw the parts cannon at this car, from all new sensors, AC COMPRESSOR, Alternator, radiator, whole new front end, ? Brand new tires and Rims, exhaust work, filler neck, new fuel injectors, I can go on and on? What do you suggest I do? I did all the work myself, in my driveway, but fixing the heads, is a whole another ball game? Can you make a suggestion? Or give me any ideas, what to do? I’d really like to sell the whole car, as is? Any comments are welcome? Thanks, Mark O.

[@trucavalier]

The reason I left Chevy and moved to Honda v6

[@angelbarrera6833]

can we get a list of size you use and what tools you use

[@pb4961]

did you just cross threaded the second guide ? and didnt lubricate it ?

[@joeljefferson6648]

Is the procedure difference between a 3.0and a 3.6

[@user-pg5wj3xs5h]

I was wondering if you may help me? I have a 2013 Chevy Captiva sport that was in reserve power mode. I took him to the mechanic who could not figure out why I was getting so many diagnostic codes pop up and he said he wouldn’t be able to fix it because it’s a computer issue. When I went to look at the car, the hood was up and running and there was an obvious vacuum leak you can hear. He said he would have to fix the PVC vacuum tube that was cracked. Today when I went to pick it up, he said it was running and they fix the tube when I got there it would not start. He told me it was the timing chain, and it had failed. When I asked about the timing chain, he said well it could also be warped valves? I’ve also had a Few people tell me that it would not even crank if that was the issue What should I do?

[@timh3969]

I think I will stick with Ford, My F150 and an expedition with 300,00 and 250,000 miles. No motor or trany issues.

[@mostwanted33986]

28:58 you shouldn’t hit the tie rod like that even if you didn’t damage the thread you will cause damage to the movable joint because the tolerance will be higher

[@ericabertagnoli5469]

My 2014 Chevy Malibu has this code. I’m overdue for oil change so mechanic thinks it’s either that will help or replace solenoids. Car runs perfectly fine so he doubts and I’m hoping it’s not the timing chain.

[@ryansmith1115]

Never reuse the old tensioners either, since they come with the new timing chain set

[@anthonynapier4668]

👍 👍

[@silvestresantana1170]

How many miles till u have to change the timing chain

[@raffaeledemartinosandoval4851]

hay un extractor para los terminales para no golpear.......

[@ArmTheCreative]

GOOGLE- “Oh u biught a used car today? Here you go”

[@erikgonzalez4053]

You didnt put stage 1 or stage 2 for each head?

[@saultube44]

Buy Toyota

[@sonidopantojadpuebla]

where do you have your workshop

[@AG_Marine_Shooter]

Should you remove the engine to change the chain?

[@timh3969]

How many hours did the job take.

[@yajairovalle9349]

My car has the same issue, but no mechanic seems to want to do the job!

[@jamesblack5370]

Hello. I have a 2014 Buick Encore. I was told a 1.4 litter engine. Runs good. Still don't like fly by wire. Any thing including wear indication of the timing chain and gears I should look for. I have bought it and didn't have time to look for a replacement vehicle. I would appreciate it. thanks. BRANDON!

[@pontiacsrule8761]

The Buick Encore 1.5 doesn't have these issues. only the earlier V6 in GMC Arcadia. They don't use a V6 in a Buick Encore so no need to worry about timing chains.

[@rossbowman202]

If you're already in there; why not just replace the water pump?

[@joedemelo5859]

The water pump was new

[@StevenPatrick]

I'm not sure how to message anybody on youtube so ill ask my question here .... I have a 2001 jetta vr6 2.8 and am getting a p1541 fault code which says fuel pump relay circuit is open .... i have replaced the fuel pump ,relay , and took it to a shop where they traced for bad wires from the pump to the relay and the relay to the ecm ... they found no bad wires and said its probably a bad ecm ... so i bought a refurbished and pre-programmed ecm and it didnt fix the fault code .... i clear the code and it comes right back ..... so whats left to check after this??

[@whutitdew]

Blinker fluid

[@motormanautoparts]

Do any distributors or retailer shops need to buy timing chain kits? contact directly

[@christhompson4683]

Great video. Had mine done years ago. GM had (at the time) too thin a mil chain in all Acadias and Traverses. It's just a matter of time that they all will fail. Bad engineering mistake.

[@cpd969]

Pain in the butt!!

[@jonathanlemaitre8354]

that type of engine they are all dirty like that never seen a clean one yet

[@TJFSGAMING]

If you ever want to bless someone we have 3 kids next to no money cause of covid and having just got back to work and our timing chain is about to snap I would gladly do a payment plan or anything if you'd fix this I can. Getthe parts

[@mozpogson3639]

Never seen anyone go on with so much malarkey about the cam locks, which are not even required when you know what you are doing.

[@chrisstromberg6527]

Just another safe guard to prevent movement.

[@poogzie]

Hi whats p0008 code bank 1 .