DO NOT BUY CFMOTO PRODUCTS

[@LH_244]

I always wondered why someone would trust one of those instead of a Yamaha ?

[@bsmith8297]

love my cf motos, zero issues with either of them, even have a new IBEX450 coming

[@billrides2023]

was looking hard at the ibex but all this makes me think the Himalayan will be a better choice

[@craigschroeder1733]

@@billrides2023I think it depends on dealer network and where your located

[@Rescuetech16]

You are 💯 right about contacting cfmoto . They will not talk to customers . I had a 2023 overland , the moment I got home , check engine light comes on. Go back to dealer , they said it was “O2” sensor . No big deal, but it took 3 months to get the part . Got it back , took it for a ride , suddenly , alarm went off and engine heat bars maxed out . Shut the machine down for a minute , turn it back on and it was normal . Figured it was a fluke …. Took it for another ride about 2 weeks later , drove it for about 2 hours , then same thing , except this time coolant boiled out. Took it back to the dealer. I went through I year long process of swapping ECM (twice) , changing wiring harness , fuel pump and it got to the point cfmoto warranty was making my dealer just throw parts at it. Still could not keep it running . Finally !! After me respectfully raising hell with my dealer . They ended up giving me a 2024 gen3 in July of 2024 , yesterday , I was there to have a recall service done and purchased a 2025 xmr 700 . They told me they STILL had my overland in the shop not running ! Cfmoto is still trying to make them fix it !! That’s insane !

[@davidbrennan5]

I would talk to a lawyer and have them draft a letter to the original dealer. I don't think it is unreasonable to have your money refunded at this point. You should also get some compensation for your travel time. I have had good luck with Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki products over the years. You will pay more for those brands but they stand behind their products, they hold their value and parts are easy to find, even after 15+ years.

[@bruceposekany9320]

Happy for you that you've had good luck with other company products. I can honestly say don't do business with Polaris, they don't stand behind their products.

[@davidbrennan5]

@@bruceposekany9320 I dragged many Polaris, Arctic Cat and BRP machines back to camp during hunting season. They had too much power for the axles and diffs, weak frames and poor electrical wiring and connectors/switches. Poor fit and finish in general. The dealers were swamped with warranty work and they took months to get fixed properly. They blamed my buddies for driving in the mud lol. Some of those dealers had to switch brands to save their reputations or they would have went out of business. Never saw a CF-Moto in the woods yet. I think Suzuki makes good stuff, just don't see a lot of them in my area.

[@jefferylws]

@@davidbrennan5 yes, wouldn’t be awesome if Suzuki came out with SxS’s. My Suzuki never let me down and i rode that thing daily for years.

[@johnhagaman6773]

No lemon laws, or are sxs exempt?

[@jasons5607]

Dealer is a pile of crap, you need to put there name out on social media and bash them hard with the way they are treating you. Great content!!! Thanks for sharing. What you are going through is why people dont want to buy a certain brand or from a dealer.

[@dgonzo8665]

Crazy story you have sorry to hear of this problems I own a 2020 800 z a 2020 950 z and a 2024 950 z trail never had a problem more than a hose clamp that needed snugged up. I ride with canams, rzrs,hondas, ect and they perform just as good hope you can find a solution to you woes have a happy new year

[@billrides2023]

I will say its a beast when its on the trail

[@nvrserenadernvrbackdown9916]

I would drive to the corporate office in Plymouth and walk right in the door and say cut me a check

[@randykrx1000]

Definitely contact bbb!!! I also bought a 2022 zforce 950 ho sport that was junk. Sat at dealer twice for 2 new differentials, constantly jumping out of gear and electrical issues. All taken care through warranty but doesn't helped missing 3 months down time. Best thing I did was trading it in for krx 1000.

[@ConceptualRift]

I think the issue with Chinese is that the chance of obtaining a lemon right out of the crate is significantly increased.

[@Curt-fm1ml]

You got a lemon and both of the dealers you talked too are jerks. I tried buying from them and they treated me like dirt.

[@TrippinWithWayne]

Cheap machines because they’re built with cheap low grade materials.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Stay with Japanese if you don't want problems

[@matthewstiles3963]

I have a 2020 Uforce 1000 xl. It was in the shop 3 times for coolant leaks under warranty for over month total. It will also use over a quart of oil in 200 miles. Two weeks after get it back and 3 days out of warranty internal water pump seal started leaking coolant into the oil. I have since fixed the issue myself. My prior UTV was a Yamaha Viking that was trouble free for over 7500 miles. These run good and have lots of bells and whistles for the price but longevity I'm certain isn't up to the major brands. Warranty should be 5 years like Canada or at least be extended for the time it sets in the shop. Time not in your possession shouldn't count. Looks like they can't fix it so trying to run you out of warranty.

[@til1645]

Could be one of the most visually boring videos ever made..... but it made your point. We have 2 CForce 500's and love them. Chinese parts are on every single thing that comes to the U.S. Including Yamaha, Honda and the like. Wish you luck with whatever Chinese assisted machine you purchase. Yes, even our previous Harley had Chinese parts on it.

[@jimheath7842]

I have 5 cforce. They are amazing. I'm sorry to hear that you got a lemon and I wish cf moto had better customer service. I hope you get it resolved soon. You'll enjoy that car if they ever figure out the issues

[@billrides2023]

its a beast

[@AirHeadArms]

I’m looking at getting into a utv and very thankful I’ve come across your video. CFMOTO has been crossed off my list! Down to Polaris and Can-Am!

[@jwyoungy]

This story is not unique to Cfmoto I promises you. I'm on my second cfmoto and they've both been great.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Go with Honda or Yamaha or Kawasaki

[@Cforce625EST]

Mine has worked flawlessly. 4100 miles on it now

[@jameshanna8762]

This is why I am willing to pay the Honda premium. Love my '22 Rubicon quad and still riding my 40 year old Big Red 250ES and 350X. No issues beside routine maint. Thanks, for sharing your issues. I have considered buying a CF Moto ATV, but videos like yours kept me from making that mistake. o7

[@tommyreimrock8667]

I own a 2023 Honda pioneer 1000-5 trail and a 2021 Cfmoto Cforce 600, never had a problem with the CFmoto.

[@jefferylws]

I don’t blame you for being pissed, I would definitely get some legal advice on your situation. I believe once an attorney contacts them they will probably get the issue resolved .

[@erickramer9291]

I spoke with Cfmoto over my uforce 1000 and they shared with me the fix for an ecu fix and emailed me the info . I then took that email to the dealer. The dealer had no idea about the fix because my service writer only looked for recalls. My experience with Cfmoto was good but my dealer is iffy…….

[@billrides2023]

not sure how you talked to cfmoto I couldn't get past the woman who answered the phone, receptionist said there is no one to talk to or email, you have to go through the dealer

[@tommykawasaki9676]

Fellow central Minnesotan, CF moto owner & Power Lodge Customer here. I’m sure sorry about your terrible experience. I would be extremely angry. I hope things turn around for you & that you get an opportunity to enjoy your machine. I was a reluctant CF moto buyer, as I have ridden various Kawasaki motorcycles for 49 years & never one single problem. I bought a Uforce 600. So far so good. Fingers crossed. I wish you the best & hope to see you out around the campgrounds & trails. We only have so many ya know.

[@markhancock4775]

I have a 2019 zforce 1000, 22 Cfmoto Adventures 650 and a 23 IBEX 800! All great machines! My zforce was a bit notchey about going into gear, it was built with a shift detent in the shifter as well as another one on transmission and they didn’t always mesh! I deleted the detent in the shifter and that solved my VERY SMALL shifting issue! Id learned to feel when it went into gear, id hold the thumb button on the shifter and go slightly past low which allowed the transmission to fully engage, then place floor shifter in low and NO PROBLEM!!! YOU EITHER HAVE THESE ABILITIES OR YOU DONT!!!! Ya gotta hold your mouf right!!

[@billrides2023]

or the maker could just make it work as intended

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

I've been wondering how tariffs will affect CF Moto. The new Ibex 450 prices are too much but there are some left over Papio SS in green available near to me that are tempting as the advertised prices are low.

[@bradkizer9961]

I personally would get your state attorney general involved in this matter. The fact that CFMOTO's corporate office is in your state would be in your favor. Also, I would run this story by your local TV station. Make it public and assure them (CFMOTO and the dealers mentioned) that YOU are not going away anytime soon. 👍

[@alstruck8063]

Back in 2022 I was looking at a CF Moto 650 adventure touring bike, the dealer said they are just wonderful machines. I'm glad I went with Kawasaki again, seems like the Chinese knockoffs get most of it right but as he experienced customer service is not high on their priority list. Maybe this will improve with time, we'll see.

[@mikekerr3320]

Is there not like a lemon policy

[@jasonchristman9880]

That sucks hopefully you will get it resolved,I herd they are buying cat that’s the rumors,everything is junk and overpriced doesn’t matter what brand you like 23 tho for a new sled come on

[@ronniecurnutt4309]

My son bought a brand new 2022 CF Moto , this past summer he put over 1000 trouble free miles . . Every brand has some bikes that are just Lemons

[@P.Trim69]

Got 88,89 Ventura Royal cruiser. Enough parts build great one had two that sat around from new. Old ladies pops bikes. Lots lots parts and whole bike. Title to

[@slapshot454]

The bigger issue is the dealer, not CFMoto.

[@allanvaluke2174]

It’s not the Cfmoto!! It’s the Dealer….. are they red seal mechanics for one! I have a CFMOTO 2022 Overland with almost 7000 km on it. I haven’t had a problem with it properly maintenance.report it to Cfmoto they will straighten it out guaranteed!

[@allanvaluke2174]

Any manufacturer that puts five year warranty on their product nobody in the industry has it they stand behind their product. My buddy had an issue with his 800 with the coolant leaking. He fixed it within one day he had it back see if Morto warranty was fantastic. The dealership is the biggest issue.

[@billrides2023]

1 year in the US

[@seanmccaskey2940]

There are lemon laws to protect you. I would recommend to call your local news and see if they can help. I'm sure your not the only one with same issues.. would make for a great story and it would help you and others in the same boat... sounds like they are trying to run your warranty out.... very suspicious.

[@FishSnot]

Insane story. I almost bought the same unit, glad I dint. ended up buying a polaris general. hope u get this resolve

[@MrSteve8511]

Another example of buying cheap. I fix these for a living. CF has always been shinny Chinese junk. They appear to be getting better with now things. The worst machines are Arctic Cat which use many of the same parts... and CF is probably buying them. I've seen 6 machines come brand new to the dealership with bad engines. Call China and see how sympathetic they are.

[@Zforce800Trail]

I love my zforce I’ve had it since 2022 and no issues. I’ll be buying another one later. I want the 600 cforce

[@lonniepruitt5487]

You can’t shift it while moving

[@GYPSY400]

How can one of the largest dealers not have ANY parts???

[@earnestmatiyasic2766]

I had the same problem with cfmoto Corp Just run me around circles trying to get them to do something about a cfmoto I bought used with 326 miles on it and the motor is knocking bad was told by cfmoto Corp to take it to a dealer and fill a clam on it after driving over 2 hours to be told thay would not even consider looking at it because it's a 2017 800 and it's to old 326 miles is unexpected for a motor to blow up NOT happy with the way they handle their service and never going to buy another one for sure Going to fix it myself and dump it on someone else so they can have this pice of junk

[@davidharlow7320]

Dont worry. I wasnt planning on it

[@Thatgreenbronco]

Sounds like a dealership issue not a cfmoto issue.

[@JeffreyJohnston724]

they are crap I have seen a brand new one with 5 grand took off the price that tells you all you need to know

[@andyb9994]

Probably could have gotten a Polaris or a Kawasaki for just a little more money or even the same!!!

[@chrisball8472]

contact the "better business bureau" they may work at fixing it then.

[@ceo3378]

Wow that's exactly how my story is going now but with a uforce 1000xl alpine

[@corylee2261]

Ide never buy shit from hutchinson cf moto they dont know anything.

[@billrides2023]

yup not real helpful

[@jamesbaker-ej5ir]

Don’t blame one bad machine and make it like there horrible I love mine zero issues be like me buying a Chevy and it looks up right down the road from dealer you had a BS dealer and a BS machine

[@mikekerr3320]

You know how cars have a lemon policy.You can get it replaced

[@coldragoon]

Sounds like shitty dealers to me. My dealer is amazing but my CF Moto CForce 800XC is not. I have a lemon just like you lol. Its been to the shop every couple months lol (i ride once everey two weeks. 100 mile rides on average) im up to 5000 kms whateve that is in miles and i swear half of that is getting towed from the bush to the truck because something happend to it lol. The other CF Moto riders dont have the issues as me around here but then again they ride gravel roads and pavement. I ride trails with the odd mudhole i try to avoid

[@isaacsanchez3966]

I didn't know that about no 1800 number but it really sounds like shity dealers and I hate that

[@homer97027]

So you bought a Chinese Harbor Freight motorcycle at half the price of a quality Japanese bike and its a lemon. No service or parts worth a sh!t. Sorry, but you walked right into that drama!!

[@billrides2023]

Without my zforce 950 trail since sept 12, 2024. Am i ever gonna get it back

[@blistery1875]

I totally understand your anger however there is a chance of buying a lemon from every manufacturer. It’s also obvious that you didn’t do your homework when choosing the dealership. This is literally one of the most important aspects when purchasing an expensive and complex piece of equipment and many people just don’t understand this. Now you’re getting your machine repaired by a dealer that you didn’t purchase from. Naturally their priority is to service their customers first. I will be purchasing the Zforce 950 Sport 4 seater this spring and I have definitely done my dealer selection homework. The cheapest dealer has a terrible reputation because they lack a reputable head technician, so they are off my list. In addition, you don’t sound like a mechanical person. Case in point you mention leaking coolant yet you didn’t specify location of the leak. Why? I thought of all the possibilities where the leak could come from; rad, hoses, head, water pump housing, etc. I really don’t recommend any non mechanical person purchasing such a complex machine that we take to remote areas without some level of mechanical aptitude. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope others can learn from it.👍

[@kevinclark8782]

Isn't there a lemon law where you live? Get your money back.

[@P.Trim69]

1300 Yamaha

[@patricklambert5810]

Love my 1000 Overland...got rid of my Honda

[@ceo3378]

Motohouse picayune Mississippi please don't give them your business

[@kwaldbaum84]

What msc say?

[@kwaldbaum84]

They are a can am knock off wonder if can am parts fit

[@joel387ktm]

All those chinese brand rec vehicles are complete junk i wouldnt take one if they paid me to 😂

[@lonniepruitt5487]

Your dealers in Minnesota are clowns you did not test drive it at dealer

[@argndogo]

Def write to better business bereau and places is your best bet!!

[@paulsawyer4541]

Never buy cheap Chinese junk . There are so many better options

[@corylee2261]

@paulsawyer4541 like what polaris the king of recalls and stop ride notices??

[@Cody_Gray]

I am a mechanic who had the opportunity to work on a couple of CF-Moto’s. Let’s just say I will never buy or work on one ever again. I would say Arctic cat is the worst but I think CF Moto are by far the worst brand based on over all.. I would have to recommend Polaris being my first choice and Can-am being a close second. Yes they’re more expensive but that backed by years in the industry. It’s not saying a guy can’t have problems with these two brand, but it’s far less likely from Brand new. Hope you can find a solution to your problem.

[@corylee2261]

Polaris sucks balls man

[@jeremyschmidt4449]

I here so much bad about polaris also, I went with the can am commander xt 1000. I have put 5200miles on it in 18months with zero issues.

[@danbo4605]

Pretty sure you just got a lemon.

[@scout3058]

Imagine buying a Chinesium product and being shocked when it doesn't work and you get the run around on fixing/replacing it. 🙄

[@blistery1875]

You sound like a very proud racist, quite ignorant, however very proud.

[@scout3058]

@blistery1875 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@blistery1875]

@@scout3058 laugh as you will however China is going to have the last laugh. They actually like individuals like yourself who thinks that their better than them. It’s their strength and your country’s biggest weakness. Western nations thought they were so smart by taking advantage of the cheap labour to provide great returns to their shareholders. Meanwhile the Chinese studied and learned how to replicate the very best the west had to offer. Case in point is Germany, a powerhouse of manufacturing and engineering. They provided the machines that make the products the entire planet purchases from China and they did it very well. Now they are basically in the second year of a recession largely because the Chinese now make these highly complex machines and systems and they no longer need Germany. Same for Volkswagen and German luxury cars or American Buicks, they don’t want these vehicles anymore because they produce their own vehicles better and cheaper. CF Moto at present makes recreational vehicles that are as good as any other manufacturer in today’s market. Take some time to read what’s going on in this world and not rely on Fox News or the total crap that comes from Facebook.

[@scout3058]

@blistery1875 I read very little of that diatribe. I don't care what you say, or what you think. Chineseuim products are junk, and after living for years in Japan I think Chinese people are the rudest, most obnoxious people on the planet...and I'm an obnoxious American so to say that is really something.

[@MrJeffyb69]

@@blistery1875 Very well said!! This is what my point is as well, when talking to people about buying domestic! I do think that Polaris and Can Am need to get their prices in check though!