DO NOT buy these NVMEs. Chinese SSD test

[@GraceMcClain]

I have multiple Netac and KingSpec NVMe and SATA M.2 drives in 3 of my machines, with not a single issue coming from any of them. Heck, my download storage drive is a 1TB Netac M.2 drive I bought 5 years ago that has out lasted 3 Samsung drives, 2 Crucial drives, and a WD drive. All M.2 drives. I would happily recommend both Kingspec and Netac, and have been doing so for many years already.

[@jessefisher1809]

I have Netac nv7000 and its great. Its way faster than my p5 plus and trades blows with my sn850x though the sequential, and 4k random read and write is actually better on the Netac. I would definitely recommend it. The only thing I don't like is the 'warranty void if removed' sticker on the heatsink. Like its got something to hide. But I can't argue with its out of the this world performance for the price. At first I wasn't sure about reliability but I've had it for like 7 months now so I'm feeling a bit more confident.

[@david300099]

Netac nv7000 or kingspec xg7000?? What is better?

[@SianaGearz]

I put kingspec in an old netbook. It was just perfect beating the old hard disk on noise power and performance while being a low spec low cost upgrade. It was 7 or 8 years ago. Major manufacturers simply weren't willing to build something as cheap as a dramless 32gb SSD which would end up selling for $12, their overhead costs are too high.

[@arturbaltazar2526]

Using both netac and Kingspec in my pc, no issues. Price quality is incredible. I also use netac 32 GB DDR 4 ram.

[@SethOmegaful]

Same. I got netac 3000 for my pci3.0 board and its great until now. I bought it with really low durability expectations and its all great for a long time. No regrets.

[@Ray-uc8ij]

With this stuff you get what you pay for. They definitely have their use cases for a lot of people who are not writing gigabytes of data all at once. The MSI drive certainly seemed reasonable even with the dropped speeds. If you really wanted to test the quality you should have written to them until the drives died and record the MTBF. You should never trust any drive with your data no matter how expensive it is. Backup is key to at least one other drive, but ideally you want to back up to two other secondary drives in case the primary drive fails.

[@blue-xb1cq]

you get what you paid for with Apple computers/phones?

[@Ray-uc8ij]

@@blue-xb1cq With apple your buying lifestyle and eco system more than quality. Still nice stuff, but way over priced.

[@LzOhaiF]

@@blue-xb1cq your question is dumb and shows that you don't understand what he said.

[@KlodFather]

@@Ray-uc8ij - Apple is for people with more money than brains. :)

[@eduram]

Data on System drive, backup on games drive, backup on cloud and finally a shitty usb 2.0 of 64gb has the most important.

[@Potato-qh2xl]

The video is great and helps everyone avoid inferior products, but as a Chinese, I think it needs to be emphasized that not all SSDs from China are inferior. Almost all of the ssds in this video are trash. If you want to purchase SSDs from Chinese brands, the following are the brands that can be purchased: ZHITAI, Acer, aigo,. Nowadays, the price of SSD has significantly decreased. If you are willing to investigate, you will find that a large part of this is attributed to Yangtze Memory (the parent company of Zhitai), which has developed an advanced xtacking architecture and won a reputation for its high-speed and high-quality performance.

[@PavelShevchuk]

"Good" chinese products cost as much as brand name parts, but usually have no retail presence in EU to fulfill two year warranty. There's also a cultural rift between chinese and western quality expectations, product naming and marketing, most chinese brands are unwilling to adapt for.

[@24kmetal99]

@@PavelShevchuk Asus, MSI...are all Chinese brand, of course it costs as much as brand name parts, it is brand name parts. Cultural rift? These are small companies, what do you expect? You are buying from China directly, now you're comparing a small local company with international brands? LOL

[@PavelShevchuk]

@@24kmetal99 ASUS and MSI are Taiwanese

[@24kmetal99]

@@PavelShevchuk It's like saying Californian is not American lol.

[@24kmetal99]

@@PavelShevchuk I'm Taiwanese Chinese by the way.

[@filipbunalti]

I use a 2TB "Fanxiang" drive I picked for 55 USD for games. While the write speed is impacted when the drive is full, the read speed and responsiveness is still extremely good. And as you said, the 100 MB/s limitation doesn't matter even when downloading games on a fast connection. And also, games aren't very precious because I can just re-download them from steam. In conclusion, I think these are good drives for games, bad for data or actual productivity work that requires a lot of write operations.

[@thorgrim1074]

fanxiang is actually really good, I don't have the m.2 but the sata one, and it holds up well against my western digital.

[@Drewtheelder]

I have the same drive, it cost £60 from amazon and it's where I install my Steam games, it works perfectly fine alongside a fast WD black boot drive.

[@warrobots1warrobots135]

M.2 ? Because it's maybe like 70$~ for the M.2 speed of 7450mb\s

[@filipbunalti]

@@warrobots1warrobots135 Yes M.2 NVMe drive. Mine is rated at 5GB/s. I see the 7.5GB/s models for $70 too, but I don't expect any meaningful performance difference for my use case (games).

[@kevinmagsy0312]

Patriot is not a chinese fake broo.. its been around year 2010, they were just not famouse along years

[@JohnnyOrgan]

As a guy who has built a good few PCs over the past 8 years for friends and family....I've found that Patriot, PNY, Kingston and Crucial are very reliable budget drives with good durability, real time speeds and compatibilty for multiple mobos (estimated builds @100 and mostly AMD CPUs admittedly from my experience). I usually go with whatever is on sale/best price at the time and have no hesitations recommending them. Great bang for buck. Especially if upgrading a laptop or older PC from a HDD. (I've had laptops with M.2s sitting empty). Believe it or not, Western Digital and Seagate drives have been less reliable/warranty breakers at times. Personally, I've had a 1TB WD and a 2TB HDD in my systems for 13 years with zero issues and still looking "Good" with CrystalMark. This has been very informative about other cheap SSDs and pretty much what I expected. Apart from that fake Kingspin drive. Waow. What a minger. I'm vouching for Patriot drives lasting at least 3 years with no issues reported back. As I said, good bang for buck real life performance and no reliability issues compared to the others... MSI looks a good option too My 2 cents.

[@wshyangify]

Wait, PNY better than WD?

[@sephroth201]

If i want to do heavy gaming like cyberpunk 2077 on max, should I cheap out on SSD and get a patriot? Will it matter much?

[@JohnnyOrgan]

@@sephroth201 If you're getting 1tb for about £40, go for it

[@Vysair]

Team Group too iirc

[@eleventy-seven]

Sabrent is great also Samsung but they have occasionally had issues.

[@figadodeporco]

I use kingspec ssds, (nvme for 3 years and m2 pcie for 5 years) and never had a problem. they work great and it's price is very affordable.

[@DarknoorX]

They and goldenfir are not half bad. Not the fastest, but work well for the paid amount.

[@maxoryxyt]

Hi i read some reviews that they removed data when full

[@zalankhan5743]

Hi I want to buy a kingspec NVME just for gaming storage. Is it great for that.

[@figadodeporco]

@@zalankhan5743 i think so

[@scorkmc]

​@@zalankhan5743 maybe go for a more reputable company or more local to you, so if something goes wrong you can maybe use warranty or something

[@adsuper9185]

You introduced some brands or models in some brands that Chinese people will not buy, Tiplus7100 2t $114. Predator GM7 2t $70. Kingston Kc3000 2t $112. aigo p7000z 2t $79. They are all pcie4.0. These are the better products sold in China's 618 shopping festival this year.

[@崔祖曦]

This is one of few reviews in the last two years and not for popular Chinese brands. It is surprising to see a lack of SSD reviews on KZbin despite the increased production of SSDs from China. However, the price drop of established brands indicates the positive impact of new manufacturers. These changes have brought significant benefits to consumers, especially the Chinese. Hopefully, in the future, some manufacturers can also compete with NV in GPU manufacturing, allowing for more reasonable pricing reminiscent of the 2010s.

[@gordo_homemlivre1909]

​@gapo-jx9nm You look like a bot 😂

[@Jeffnvz]

@@gordo_homemlivre1909 If you ever try Zhitai 7100 plus, you'll understand what is made in China.

[@shib5267]

​@gapo-jx9nmChina numba one 🇨🇳!!!

[@masfuti]

How i've never heard about this channel? This review is so complete that i don't have any ideia of what he's talking about. I mean, until now SSD for me are all the same thing! Nice work man, already own a new sub.

[@Jandejongjong]

I got the KingSpec and use it to game on as external drive. Works perfectly! Usb 3.0 500mB/s

[@Daniel-l6c5j]

I got a kingspec xg7000 series and it was defective apon arrival. Didn't even work

[@Daniel-l6c5j]

1:40 it says my M.2 is supposed to be Nvme but looking at this shows me it's a SATA

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

Little tip... get a USB-C enclosure with a Realtek RTL9210b chip. Those ones support USB 3 at 10gbps, meaning just under 1GB per second read and write speed (if you plug it into a 10gbps USB port obviously)

[@belnels]

From 2021 to 2023 on my personal computer I have a 256 GB Nvme Netac NV2000 and to date it has 8 TB Written and 95% Life Remaining. On the other hand, from January 2023 to date, 7 months on my mother's computer has a Nvme Adata Legend 700, it has 5 TB Written and 92% remaining life I recommend NETAC 1001%👍👍👍

[@lewislane1143]

You just demonstrated we should buy these drives. For the price, it did very well.

[@blackboxsda7853]

They have their own use, yes. I just won't use them to store critical data.

[@CrucialRed]

Which one of this is the best?

[@LindonSlaght]

@@blackboxsda7853 agreed. My SSDs store mission critical data. It's backed up, but still, I want reliable solutions.

[@Stomp409]

He is suggesting you DO NOT to buy these drives. At the end he calls them all garbage! LOL!

[@elgorditobonito4980]

@@Stomp409 idk man. i have a 2tb netac and its still going strong 2 years later. I only paid 98 canadian dollars for it in aliexpress.

[@arcaderacer586]

Day to day users will not notice any performance loss With cheaper ssd’s typically. The only people it will matter to are benchmarkers for the most part.

[@rodrigosierpe5995]

Not precisely. If it's for some test machine, with a disposable Os install, sure, nothing really matters, but if it's even close to a production machine or daily driver, or even a media player machine, then you WILL notice

[@amistrophy]

Confidently incorrect

[@arcaderacer586]

@@amistrophy well it also will decrease some performance when the drive gets almost full but other than that the differences is a second here 3 seconds there….

[@arcaderacer586]

@@rodrigosierpe5995 cant argue with the power benchmarkers LOL

[@patg108]

@@rodrigosierpe5995 probably still better than a 7200 rpm sata 3.0 mechanical drive though seeing as that theoretical limit is 600 Mb/sec

[@jasonyu8020]

MSI is Taiwan brand...not china.

[@LetsLearnEconomic]

Taiwan is China.

[@MrLemmiwinks91]

-300000 credit score

[@BBenvico]

​@@MrLemmiwinks91😂😂😂😂

[@michaelwright956]

@@MrLemmiwinks91😂

[@powerslave7876]

Taiwan is Chinese

[@kid_5679]

im using chinese NVme's since 2018 and its still working all of them.🙃

[@chongtak]

Lucky you, both of the two I have bought died a month later.

[@DavidCoutinhoCG]

I do use Netac M.2 SSDs and Netac DDR4 RAM Sticks, never had a problem with it.

[@shodan6401]

Mikhail, this is a great video. Thank you for making it in English. Much important information is exposed here. Well done.

[@eranddroory9987]

Awesome work guys. Thanks - staying clear of these cheap brands..

[@stxticlegend5209]

Don’t listen to this guy. If you buy pc parts from aliexpress you have an issue

[@godfreybay735]

I had no issue using Kingspec NVme2 1 TB.

[@timecentral3134]

The "pyrometer" at 3:23 is held too far away from the drive to give an accurate reading. The area thermally measured is shaped like a cone and the further away the pyrometer is from the object, the larger the measurement area is. (The red dot is just for aiming, but does actually do any measuring)

[@Alan_Skywalker]

The biggest problem is, when all the data was written into SLC cache and not TLC main region, does it really count as complete? The GC algorithm will continue moving the data, any unexpected scenarios like power loss will corrupt the data.The SSD will be in higher load than simple TLC write-through, or pause the write-back if there's other instructions coming in. This write-back process is in background, there will not be an indicator telling you when it will complete. If the data is not secured in the drive, can we say the data transfer is complete?

[@FlyingFun.]

I am just getting into nvme drives and trying to understand it all, and this is a question I have in my mind , I would hope that it takes care of the problem by NOT erasing the data its copying until it has confirmed the data has been written?

[@SianaGearz]

This shouldn't be true. Data in SLC cache is non volatile. If power is lost, the drive can just continue GC where it left off when the power is restored. Back in the day you could corrupt a Sandforce but a Marvel drive would manage guaranteed. SLC caches are much older than TLC drives, it starts with MLC. On well made drives even RAM was guaranteed to be successfully flushed into SLC on the drive while on drive's internal hold up capacitor, but on less well made ones well that's a possible failure point. I think today HBM may be throwing a wrench into the works, where the drive may still be operational, but the host memory that it's trying to use is suffering progressive corruption during brown out phase of power loss. Of course corruption of internal data structures is a very bad thing. They should handle it somehow but do they? That is the question.

[@Alan_Skywalker]

​@@SianaGearz @nigeltelevet Of course SLC area is non-violate, but you are missing the point here. What's usually went wrong is the FTL, which translates the physical addresses to the logical adresses which the FS and OS can directly access. If this table isn't saved correctly, the data on the NAND no longer matters as the controller can't find it, or even look for the wrong address. And since the data is still transfering from SLC to TLC, and the disk is rearranging the FTL, and which space is using as SLC cache, if this process was interrupted, the data in transfer, the old data from the operating cells, even old data elsewhere, may still be corrupted. In my opinion, as long as the contents in the disk are actually changing, and stopping this process will damage the data in some ways, the data should still be counted as "in flight", thus it's improper to say the data transfer is "complete". And yes, SLC cache did start with MLC, the earliest OCZ drives using this technique are notoriously bad in term of fail rates(although bad quality flash chips also plays a part). Although this technique is vastly improved nowadays, till this day, it's rarely used on Enterprise, DC or industrial class drives, where PLP actually exists, and where data is actually valued.

[@Alan_Skywalker]

@@SianaGearz I may not have understood the HBM you're talking about, are those the DRAM chips used on server CPUs an GPUs?

[@SianaGearz]

@@Alan_Skywalker I mistyped I meant HMB. Host memory buffer. The system BIOS can dedicate an amount of CPU RAM that the SSD can just access via PCI Bus Master as if it's on the SSD to use for management data or cache. DRAMless NVMe SSD make heavy use of this feature to be at all viable.

[@ardithconley2628]

Sometimes those adaptors may not work as fast as you think. Due to the 2nd m.2 slot of a MSI mother board when used cuts off the the 2nd 15 video slot. That makes that slot go bye bye. If you buy an adaptor for that 16 slot buy one that holds more than one m.2 slot on it and do not use the 2nd slot on the motherboard. Check all that stuff out. In most cases it does not matter. You may get at best 4x2 from them. Still way faster than SATA. With any SSD buy use the ones with DRAM.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

Props to the dude translating all these videos and doing the voiceover. Having done that for someone else (from German to English), I know what a massive pain this can turn out to be. This is now the second channel I know of that has fully dubbed Russian-to-English audio, the other being Garage54, and both are excellent :D

[@OutlawNix]

I have an 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 that's 11 years old still works plenty of life left on it. Got an 480GB Crucial SSD that been using for a while as well just not 100% sure for how long still works plenty of life left on it. Got an Samsung 980 250GB NVMe currently as boot drive been using it since it was released still working fine. The 480GB Crucial SSD was my 2nd drive for my PC games. But just replaced it with an Teamgroup MP33 2TB NVMe cause I needed more space for games.

[@acetechnical6574]

I got a Chinese M.2 (gen 4 allegedly) from Amazon for my daughters first build over black friday. On an MSI Z590 Pro, It heats up north of 75° fast while also only hitting about 1200 MB/s with the stock BS sticker "heatspreader", but with a reasonably decent passive heatsink, it hits 3 GB/s pretty well. Overall, everything I have experienced with SSDs of sata and M.2 variety, since 2014, strongly suggests two things - Silicon Power is the best company overall, and if you want real performance, WD or Samsung are your options. I am old, so it gives me a combo of righteous satisfaction, and a strange sense of meloncholy, that Seagate is no longer in the discussion.

[@Fan-lq6uv]

1:42 the picture is wrong! B key is SATA, M key is PCIe NVME. I don't know who did the picture but SATA and NVME needs to be flipped around.

[@johnt.848]

Thank you for explaining everything clearly and slowly for those of us that don't know every thing.

[@marcg1043]

Great review. So much technical background info and explanations of performance !!! Thank you.

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

It's annoying, AI voice is cringe

[@TheColonelJJ]

Wow! Thanks! So much more than a simple comparison. I really learned a lot from you here today!

[@hssssssssssss]

Thank you for the voice over. Interesting video

I think we can only conclude that all of SSD perform similar on a daily basis except the frankestein one, realistically, you don't wanna write full data on them everyday as that is going to drain the TBW, so what matters is that i can write data somewhat fast but can read data really fast and consistently. I'm more concerned about TBW of each one of these as we know some cheap ones break after 2-4 years of use and they take down your whole computer and data with them, i need at least 10+ years without failing and 1 petabyte per TB on TBW (or as close to a PB per TB as you can get ) / 5 year warranty is a good indicator.

[@kansax8253]

The Goldenfir having the best Crystal Disk Mark random reads is pretty interesting. Was that an outlier, or did it consistently beat the other NVME drives?

[@cabal123123123]

Been using Goldenfir SSD and surprisingly still alive, longer than my other Patriot Burst SSD did, I can say that brand is trustable

[@t8polestarcyan22]

I'm too happy with Goldenfir

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

Outlier

[@t8polestarcyan22]

So far most Chinese TLC SSDs are good. However the only brand I definitely cannot trust is Kingspec (NOT Kingston). I had a couple of reliability issues with that brand, SATA and mSATA drives so far.

[@hazinessbyebye6714]

seems like you purchased craps priced below 50usd. and that products are craps of the craps as the prices tells you. btw, chinese netac ssd named encompassing ymtc 128layer nand is not cheap and performs great.

[@deanjean5255]

I also doubts that why he didn't test main stream chinese brand? Kingspec(金胜维), Goldenfire（？）, Klissre（金胜） or Netac（朗科）are not recommended even at china website.

[@maguro-_-otoro]

Exactly! I shop at Taobao & JD for SSDs all the time I hardly ever see these brands. Kingspec is on the domestic market but hardly anyone recommends them. Everyone goes for Zhitai 致态 if budget permits or the Fanxiang with YMTC+MAXIO combination. A reviewer on bilibili has written 3000TB on his 1TB Zhitai Tiplus 7100 and its still going strong.

[@stanislasflipo7214]

Was about to buy a kingspec to do backups thinking it would save time over my HDD. Thank you for saving my money

[@pham3383]

patroit is from phison,quite well known ssd controller maker

[@imgonnacream]

Linus has tested many ssds and he says you can't tell the difference in boot speed, exe open time, and average user file transferring at gen 3 vs gen 4 and gen 5 speeds I also cannot tell the difference between my fast and slow ssd.

[@enioochs7520]

Please Test Reletech p600

[@PleaseGetReal]

Just bought one myself... I used Kingspec 2242 M2 NVME SSD. I have no problem with it.

[@TheLionAndTheLamb777]

While I've not had Patriot SSD products I have had Patriot memory and it was impressive despite being value memory. It was marketed as DDR4-2400 but it ran at DDR4-2666 without any tinkering. That was pretty good for dirt cheap memory just to test boards. I have worked on computers with Patriot SSD and they seemed to work fine, a bit slower than expected but worked fine.

[@Alan-rt3se]

You could add Silicon Power to this list. They are manufactured in Taiwan, not China, but 4 years ago, I bought 4 of their SATA SSDs, the A55. All 4 of them started out working well, with read and write speeds of about 400 Mbps, about right for a SATA SSD. But within 6 months or so, all 4 of them had drastic slowdowns in their write speeds. Two were below 100 Mbps and the other 2 were at around 10-15 Mbps. I got a refund for one and a replacement for one, but the other 2 were just a write-off. As a result, I've never bought any of their nvme drives, nor will I. Best bet is to stick with name brands like Samsung, Crucial or SK Hynix.

[@Absalon68]

Thanks. That was a nice description of why, how, and because.

[@zangetsu6638]

YOOO! can you do another test of the cheap Chinese drives again, but now with bigger sizes? like 1TB or 2TB?

[@oliverqui9512]

Thank you, your blog is so informative... And thanks, I am using Intel optane nvme's...

[@JAAS-b7k]

Does a full drive only affect the write speeds? Or does it also slow down the read speeds if the drive is full?

[@mttrashcan-bg1ro]

I'm not sure how to answer that question, but an SSD should NEVER be full or even in the red zone. It doesn't just rewrite data anywhere as it has to rewrite whole blocks which means if it's full and has to rewrite a tiny bit of data to a block it need to write over the whole block which means that new data goes over old data. This has caused my sister's PC to end up with a corrupt Windows 10 install because she left it in red for months. HDDs technically should be red either, there's a reason it's red, but SSDs just straight up should NOT touch the red zone or major problems can occur.

[@brankoburgic8013]

What software did you use to detect NVME controller and type (QLC,TLC...)

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

Nice job.. I'm looking to put a new nvme drive in as my system drive, I've moved to a pcie gen 4 motherboard and my C drive is only 256gb (system only) but it's almost half full and I'm ready to upgrade. I wasn't planning on cheap junk from ali express however a LOT of the lower priced drives use the same older controllers and are tls or slc memory, I'm not interested in those drives. I prefer a dram cache for my system drive and will probably just bite the bullet and use a Samsung or Sabrent Rocket..

[@sneakycactus8815]

oblivion music in the background haha i love it

[@Liferoad371]

I bought a Firecuda years ago and it works great.

[@jessefisher1809]

I have a Netac ssd, the nv7000, the higher end version. Its actually great. And faster than my p5 plus, and trades blows with my sn850x, and it comes with a heatsink.

[@MaxRiley]

What about Fikwot? yes or no?

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

I've bought 2 SSDs from them dirt cheap, and both had fake capacity (claiming 1TB, actual 120GB) ... got my money back for both of them but yeah, not worth it

[@MaxRiley]

@@Knaeckebrotsaege thank you, brother. I'll stay away from them then.

[@RaphaelWanjala-j5i]

Amazing, Could you please do one for digital cameras

[@YAAMW]

Just FYI, Patriot isn't a no name brand. It's a well-known brand that has existed for a long time

[@Intelwinsbigly]

Never heard of them...

[@mikapirinen5561]

@@Intelwinsbigly chinese buy usa brands like kodak, patrion. Anyway chinese SSDs are much better than 10 year ago.

[@Intelwinsbigly]

@@mikapirinen5561 and what chinese brands would you recommend?

[@ronch550]

If i were buying an SSD for PS5 I'd love to try brands like Kingspec and Netac. A 2TB PCIe 4x4 SSD can be had for less than $100.

[@hedyramy]

So 8 months later, which one have you chosen?

[@ronch550]

@@hedyramy I said 'if'. Don't really game much these days.

[@rastanz]

I'm very picky to what I install and usually go for my go to brands of which have been reliable for me over the decades of building PC's. Been using Samsung NVMe and SSD drives since their debut and haven't had any die on me before running out of storage space. I rarely depend on review videos as a legitimate source as they're based on the reviewers setup and personal configuration and not my own personalized system. In saying that, this was an interesting watch.

[@asian_raisin]

I play lots of video games and don't do any 4k video editing so any of the cheap nvme drives with higher capacity are plenty fast enough.

[@StriderVM]

TL;DR If you really want the best performance. Just buy stuff from the known brands like Samsung, Kingston, even brands like AData, Sandisk are OK. The main purpose for these no name SSD's are for those old PC's you will give away to grandma, or to give that 10 year old PC it's last gasp before you throw it in the landfill. They are still a massive upgrade from mechanical hard drives though.

[@CloudybayTee]

fyi, one can only get real advanced chinese NVME from chinese mainland e-commerce site. the chinese drives tested in videos are obsolete drives at the time of video release.

[@castiel7330]

No one can't explain this better. Bravo mate

[@chaminda23]

i used many chaina SSDS.. and never had a problem. they work great

[@serij800]

So the question is: to pay 240 Euro for a 4Tb NVME with latest controller chips or to buy for 36 Euro ! a cheap 4Tb NVME with 3 year old chip and 5 year warranty , that still can do 3000m/sec ! , just bought 4 x 4Tb and will put them in all kids nootebooks !

[@hedyramy]

Quelles marques fiables SSD d'AliExpress vous conseillez ?

[@undefinedCat]

you can't get 4tb for 36 euro

[@DarknoorX]

If they're durable I'll buy them. I just need a backup drive.

[@Slav4o911]

I have an old Chinese drive and it still works, so they are durable. My newer Samsung on the other hand has died, the other one shows 90% health, so it depends, maybe I just had bad luck with Samsung. I literally bought the Chinese drive because my old HDD was dying and I didn't want to get another HDD for my OS drive... so I bought that Chinese drive expecting it to die after 1 year.... but now 5 years later it still works, now I use it for my Steam library. It's only slow in writing speed but for games it's good. For me it's the most durable SSD I ever had, even if it is slow, but the thing just refuses to die 🤣 . I'm going to change it anyway, because the prices have really dropped sadly it seems that brand doesn't make new drives. The drive is called Teclast and when I was buying all people I've asked said if the drive is not DOA it would die after 6 months, but it still works to my amusement.

[@DarknoorX]

@@Slav4o911 is it the latest Samsung M2? I heard about what Samsung did with it, fixing it later, and taking no responsibility about the damaged health. I also have a few flash drives and a couple of Chinese SSDs but SATA not M2 so I was wondering.

[@Slav4o911]

@@DarknoorX No it's not the latest, the one that died is Samsung 870 EVO 1TB, and the one with 90% health is 860 PRO SSD 1TB, both are SATA. And it's very strange because that second one was super expensive... and sadly it didn't die, I say sadly because I can't turn it back, because it works but it's with 90% health. The EVO was still under warranty, but I lost some data, nothing too important, then the new EVO I've put into my wife's PC, because she doesn't do much and doesn't have any important data on her PC. But still it was a shock for me when it died, because I didn't expect it at all. Then I've got the expensive one... and one day it had problems booting up and 10% of it's health were just gone. Of course that has spooked me, so I very fast bought an ADATA XPG SPECTRIX S20G M2. Now I don't buy Samsung SSDs any longer, maybe they are very good, but my experience with them is very bad. Also it's not a problem with my PC, because I have other SSDs and they don't have any problems. I have ADATA M2 and 860 PRO I also have 1 Kingston and 2 Silicon Power SATA drives, so it's not a problem with the PC, otherwise they would also die, but they are working OK... and I'm going to get probably Kingston M2 drive to change that Teclast. (because I have one empty M2 slot,).

[@xulu1987]

@@Slav4o911 Teclast Maxsun and SOYO, all three brands belong to one Guangzhou company. That makes sense why it was durable.

[@lgmnowkondo938]

if I use one of these to store data...then slower is just fine with me. The question then becomes, will they break?

[@FlyingFun.]

yep, this is the only question that bothers me, I can stand a slightly slower driive but do not want to lose my data.

[@pennyhardaway7491]

Do Chinese SSD destructive test, so continuous writing until failure.

[@frenchieman971]

Thank you for your work, very precise and professional. I have subbed.

[@edtam6]

Your cactus need more sun, do you can buy led grow lights, if the sun exposure is insufficient.

[@2DAnimax]

Hope to get kingspec M.2 2242 for Thinkpad T580 .

[@WARRIOR-rh8hc]

What about SK hynix SSD Nvme? is it good SSD brand ?

[@tradehut2782]

I bought 2 crucial MX SSDs 2 years ago. No heavy writing. One failed, the other is working. Have an old Sandisk SSD from 8 years ago that still works fine . Another SanDisk that I bought 3 years ago failed after 6 months. It all depends on your luck.

[@rubyvolt]

I just put a gen4 WD black in one of those little aluminum cases. HOT after copying 300GB or so from a SATA III HD. The thing just stopped working. Reboot. Cool down. Plug in. Repeat. Not the RAM chip, the controller chips. WAY HOT!!! The case is supposed to be be a heatsink. No so much.

[@marcomoraschi3537]

Nice and very informative vid. Good job

[@snausages43]

Newegg has a 4TB KingSpec for a good deal, but then I saw it ships from China and was immediately skeptical.

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

Wait, don't get a Netac, it looks like it did just fine?

[@prashanthb6521]

This was excellent demonstration. Very informative, Thanks a lot.

[@Nick-rk2tp]

I appreciate your videos especially on overlooked items like these, as I have never seen Chinese brand SSD tests before.

[@a.k.computerspune9330]

Thank you so much for in depth technical analysis. Appreciate your technical expertise. I am into data recovery business. Can you pls. suggest a highly reliable chipset and enclosure casing ( both pci express adapter card with form factor and USB casing make etc ) for diagnostics and recovery. Thanks again. Keep it up. My best Wishes👌👍😊 .

[@a.k.computerspune9330]

@@lurch789 Thanks a lot lurch for quick support. Appreciate Your time & efforts. Is there anyway to know which internal chipset is best technically from JMICRON JM5583 ,Realteck & Asmedia ASM2362 etc Thanks again

[@CrocdileLee]

I recommend Zhitai Plus 7100 1T / 2T 100+ usd for 2T version.

[@modriotgaming]

Those Netac nvmes look to be perfectly acceptable as a 'games' install drive according to the published stats. Would i trust it with important data? Probably not, but gamefiles are easy enough to redownload off steam if the drive were ever to go kaput. Tempted to go pick one up as soon as i finish this video.

[@hedyramy]

So ? 6 months later... Is it always worth it ?

[@GoldNugget138]

I am using them without any issues what so ever.

[@qwiizlab]

Thanks for you analysis. Less than 217,722 people saw your video while million persons saw dvertisement of these SSDs promoted by Alibaba and Aliexpress the extremely attractive price tag.

[@NonLegitNation2]

I've been considering buying a Levan m.2 nvme drive for a couple months now but haven't pulled the trigger yet since I've never heard of the company.

[@antitunnelvizie5877]

THX mate now i can make a more wise desition on if or not to buy NVME from china good channel and greatings from the Netherlands ;)

[@WaschyNumber1]

Ssd gen 4 are not recommended without extra cooling, beside ssd loosing data with temperature rises also.

[@RideTheSkies]

Well, the prices have separated quite a bit now with actual reputable brand prices being pretty high now

[@N7sensei]

I bought a KingSpec 2 TB recently. Device Manager calls it P3-2TB, so I guess it is the P3 model. In just a few months the SSD was almost completely bricked: Boot up PC. In a few minutes its read and write speed goes down to 160-230 kbyte / s (yes, kilobyte!!!). A few minutes later it will hang the computer and either make your computer freeze infinitely or the device will stop working. Damn chinese tofu. Pretty much anything you buy in china will be of this same quality. I learned that the hard way.

[@seriksson9721]

All help is needed in the computer jungle. Thanks

[@billyindrajaya]

Im buying nvme 512GB fanxiang since 2019. Using for boot windows and some app. For data still using hdd wd black 2TB and google drive unlimited. My nvme still have 94% life performance. Not bad for 35usd.

[@juanete69]

Hello. What about the brand Fanxiang? I have just bought the S790 NVME disk.

[@SeppyYT]

what about using these NVME SSDs for Office Purposes? Performance for Excel, Word, MS Teams should not be so important for those applications?

[@slowpoke3102]

Can we please look at your last list, cannot see with a maagnifier?

[@isuruthiwanka2595]

huh.... I have ordered them and have been using them... No any issues.. what are u talking broh?

[@hedyramy]

Bonjour, quelles marques de SSD sur AliExpres vous recommandez ?

[@genjitsu7448]

Thanks for looking into these options - as suspected there is no free lunch! It is just not worth it if your data is important to you. Plus if you really need lots of storage even though it is not as cool and modern you can get massive multi TB storage for really cheap now adays with "Old fashioned" HDD's. However take a look at what I just saw on Google -- a Samsung 970 Evo 1tb NVME for $55. Why take chances? Then you can get a nice external case for about $20 and you are good or you can mount it internally if you have the connections to do so. If you need more storage then that you can go for very reliable HDD's which will store your data safely and at the best possible price. Good brands like Toshiba, WD, Seagate, Samsung are all in a similar price range so just shop around and see what you can find. And if you have a PC then heck just get the HDD's as you have the space and the room. I will say that this video was a bit over my head with the terms, features, nomenclature, etc... but it was great to see it and to try and learn a bit about what is really going on. Well done, I got a lot out of it. Cheers

[@plasticdope]

Do you know that the 970 has a flawed built? Just search EVO 970 issue. I personally bought 2 of them, one dead on arrival, one died after installed Windows and restarted the first time. That’s the reason why the Evo 860 is still more expensive with a similar storage size until today.

[@genjitsu7448]

@@plasticdope Did not know that, thanks. My latest nvme is a 2TB WD Black, I hope that was a good choice!

[@Zaki-zg5lt]

What do you think of lexar ares 1tb ? I got it and I think it's pretty decent

[@alekseiiudin2874]

Спасибо..... но можно ли увидеть ссылку в комментариях на оригинальную озвучку ?

[@redzeroiceman9297]

make video for which drives to buy

[@freestinje]

How about putting it in an external exclosure?

[@Xerox482]

i have Netac 3000 bought it for 29$ in sale 500 GB, also there is another brand LEXAR which i use it seems good too .

[@EgoChip]

For storage I stick to reputable brands like Crucial, Samsung or SanDisk. Never take a chance when it comes to your data.

[@aperson1181]

do you have a link to your other language channel?

[@WaschyNumber1]

Is ther a tip for a good budget nvme or 2.5" ssd that don't need to be faster than about 600MB/s only reliability is important and low power consumption.

[@mariodasilva8729]

Great advices e, with good proof!

[@vertikultursg8532]

Patriot started in 1985 in the San Francisco Bay Area. Patriot is USA brand

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

Patriot is not US brand, they're Taiwan

[@vannhantran547]

Only MSI and Netac's ssd seems quite decent so that's why imma go for Samsung P9m1a

[@Baphangelus]

Hi, can you poste the normal ssd tests please

[@thebogsofmordor7356]

That's probably a little difficult right now...