DO NOT GIVE UP ON THIS HANDCANNON (I PROMISE ITS GOOD) | Destiny 2 Season of the Deep

[@williamli8507]

The reason I think this weapon feels nice is because the red dot sits so high up above the gun frame that you can see it for a longer time than a usual hand cannon due to the recoil.

[@Thadiloth]

Yes on top of a solid aim assist stat. Feels very open and visible!

[@vicknasty]

This is why I love eyasluna

[@dave7474]

if you have the "broken bird to be healed" ornament on Austringer it has a similar kind of look to what you're describing

[@vicknasty]

@@dave7474 I feel like that ornament only slightly raises it but on spare and eyasluna it's like 1/4inch higher

[@turtle5542]

yep! i realized that immediately, u cant miss with it bc the model never blocks ur target

[@Austere5796]

Spare is just one of those guns that feels special. Forsaken era weapons just had some secret sauce to them that Bungie has really struggled to replicate.

[@ABlackGuyAdept]

Bungie scared to make meta weapons. But when they do introduce a Gem it gets abused and then nerfed (or entire archetype gets hit like Aggressive SMGs thanks to Immortal). Bungie needs to make everyone be competitive. I legit can't take specific weapons into rumble and do well with them. I even tried to be a scumbag today and used Vex Mythoclast and I kept getting shit on by Target Lock Immortal Titans

[@sphinxoforion7422]

@@ABlackGuyAdept Gonna be honest, the -10 range on aggressive frames does jack shit. Target lock is still a massive issue thats needs to be carefully addressed to avoid nuking the perk into oblivion. I'm thinking to treat it like vorpal weapon where it does different percentages of damage based on weapon type (prime special heavy). Maybe hitting the archetype again with a precision damage nerf from 22 - 20. But idk, something gotta be done with SMGs, you just can't compete against them most times.

[@v-7815]

Bro is trying to call 83 base Aim Assist "Secret Sauce" 💀💀

[@ABlackGuyAdept]

@@sphinxoforion7422 I mean they did alter the TTK a little, not just the -10 to range. But it's barely noticeable and you still get shredded. Rumble is full of even more sweats right now farming the double exp rumble glitch and 4/5 opponents are running 100% god roll Immortals.

[@Austere5796]

@@v-7815 It's not like other handcannons don't have similar aim assist lol. Eyasluna has 85, Fatebringer has 84, an Pali has 79. Most others fall in the mid low 70's, so they also get 80+ aim assist with a targeting perk. Then if you factor in things like moving target (+10aa while ads) or rangefinder (which extends aa falloff distance), other handcannons really are not at a significant aa disadvantage compared to Spare.

[@tardus5885]

I think with the rangefinder changes spare should be able to compete with a lot of the hc

[@tardus5885]

I have come back to say, I was correct, spare feels amazing and the range is also great

[@Justin-lr8ip]

Bro what was that thundercrash? That was the weirdest, slowest crash I’ve ever seen.

[@x100Huhs]

Fr 😂

[@nitriousgd4323]

That guy needed a GPS ☠️

[@morganpriest7726]

@@nitriousgd4323 so that he can calculate where he is from where he isnt by knowing where he was?

[@Butter_Nutty]

when u turn 180 u lose momentum

[@nitriousgd4323]

Uh yes

[@apexpreditor6661]

I also have a 4/5 spare- small bore, ricochet rounds, slid shot, opening shot, and stability masterwork and it feels amazing as hell here on console

[@Johnnjlee]

Honestly, on controller a stability masterwork may feel better than a range one

[@shadeslayer9818]

Losing to rose while coping that spare is better is actually poetic

[@Rxbbr]

“You need help” I spat out my drink

[@sornok3534]

The problem is not that hand cannons are low range, they are not. The problem is that pulses have too much range and they make it hard for hand cannon users to close the distance. At the same time you try to get out of smg range because they will destroy you up to 25 metres. Essentially there is no space to stand for hand cannons and auto rifles. But these changes next season with the upcoming zoom changes and I am sure we will see many more hand cannons and autorifles around.

[@nitriousgd4323]

Well said

[@dave7474]

a handcannon + auto rifle meta is my favorite because all of the guns in the whole game find a perfect niche

[@Isaac-uk8rv]

Spare is objectively low range lol

[@nonixus661]

@@Isaac-uk8rv true

[@B7iND]

5:09 HC diff ong

[@wisteriayxz]

i like your editors editing style

[@risqiekahzii4806]

I just got a spare with slideshot and kill clip with armor piercing smallbore with a range masterwork is that decent?

[@infest9364]

Yes In your hands

[@MrBison212]

I love this hand cannon😂

[@infest9364]

@@MrBison212 same just wish it had 140 stats.

[@llIlIlIIIl]

Spare is bae. The ornament should be in the shop sometime this season.

[@FunDadHubby]

It’s been a long time.

[@rapden18]

It was never in the store n should never be in it for bright dust

[@2e826]

@@rapden18 stay mad virgin it's a fucking ornament you're not slick

[@LucanTheRando]

@@rapden18 smg one is in this week with that in mind all reckoning weapons ornaments will come back so cope it’s coming back

[@rapden18]

@@LucanTheRando I had to spend my hard earned money to buy thw spare ornament back then it ain’t fair

[@kotickyle]

Bro, I'm glad to see this video. I'm seein people sayin it just sucks because it has no range. But honestly it taps crispier better than my rose

[@TH1NG1]

1:36 FAM ! I know that f****** feeling 😂 edit one : yes that mofo was at the edge of the radar ping to force you to believe that he was close. i’ve been facing a lot of those, i can’t tell if my timing is off or if they really out here plotting 😮

[@KaPzLok]

"I'm getting GOT by Captain Ladybug " - Quote of the day

[@anthonyquezada2113]

Hey quick question at 2:55 what the name of the song plzzzz!!!

[@viperjd0495]

Do you think bungie might rework spare?

[@josephjerkins7498]

The first role I got was swashbuckler slide shot Ricochet rounds and small-bore

[@darkpillowz]

I can’t believe they sunset minbenders and brought it back. My OG roll has slideshot QuickDraw light mag small bore and range masterwork. I still use it in QP though. 4:14

[@thecupcakelord5103]

I got full bore, armour piercing, slideshot and op with range mw and I love it I just wish the stats where better the stability is terrible😭

[@johnsmart1827]

The one I use most has Slideshot and Swashbuckler with a Handling Masterwork. I have another good one with Rapid Hit and Opening Shot, but they both have 56 Range. Still crispy as ever, great to have it back in the game.😁

[@4ESTHETIK]

Panduh out here being sneaky using the same background music as Wallah 😂

[@JH-vb1wo]

I thought this hand cannon was terrible until I got rapid hit opening shot with full bore and range masterwork. Sitting at 70 range I have terrible stability but I can still land shots very smoothly amd most hand cannons I can't see very well when I use em but I can see my reticle easy and land constant headshots. It's pretty expensive to farm but well worth investing into eventually u will get a good roll. Make sure u go for opening shot, rangefinder is getting worse so hand cannons with opening shot will be on top

[@greenhood4762]

I have gotten a bunch of 4/5 rolls but the problem is not how the gun feels. The problem is the current pulse rifle meta and people just sitting back with pulse rifles. Try playing iron banner aka pussy banner with a hand cannon with the amount of people holding hands and using the messenger is nearly impossible to enjoy the spare or any hand cannon. 😢

[@MrMightyZ]

I have Moving Target and Opening Shot so with one targeting mod it’s 100 aim assist and feels AMAZING and doesn’t even seem to need stability. It’s a stability freak. But at 52 or 56 range it’s just so frustrating sometimes. Opening Shot at 32 meters is pointless if you still need 3 more shots to finish. But I’ll keep going for the same roll with 60+ range because it feels SO good.

[@quentinscorsese5146]

How do u get spare rations. Is it a world drop. Will banshee sell it this season

[@overbe]

need to focus engrams at the HELM, basically need season pass

[@aceofcaydes462]

I mean that taken spare 120 feels super nice too which is why I kinda have been focusing it for crafting now

[@raj1n90]

Ooh wait is that the quest mindbenders from before beyond light?

[@pawslays4827]

I'm very curious to see how Spare will perform once the rangefinder nerf comes.

[@jonathancarroll958]

Ppl say this about RF but I will tell you now it will end up being a buff rather than a NERF. Ppl are forgetting that range as a stat is getting reworked across the board for all weapons and the change they are giving RF are great (aim assistance, stability, accuracy). Don't follow the sheep 👍

[@dylanholm9995]

@@jonathancarroll958 they said that all hand cannons will have about 40 meters

[@jormungandr4690]

@@jonathancarroll958 RF already does those things, they arent giving it anything, they are just taking range away

[@Ace-vw6dn]

@@dylanholm9995 all of the 120s at 100 range will have about 40m, same w the slowest archetype of pulse and auto, spare will probably sit around the same

[@iHudoi]

@@Ace-vw6dn erm no spare rations atm sits around 30M of range how is it magically going to gain 10M of range im pretty curious where your logic gets that information ?

[@chaosdogma4259]

Ngl your rages and edits are fucking funny.

[@united2281]

i have Slideshot/ Open shot/ armor piercing/hammer forged/ range mw..i haven't used it a ton-

[@samaruighost6950]

How do you keep your screen still while shooting?

[@PanduhGG]

What do you mean?

[@Qhawe3456]

Panduh what armour shader is that?

[@Qhawe3456]

On your armour?

[@johnsmart1827]

Have had several Spare Rations this season, some good, some not so good, but even my best only has 56 Range. But it's still a fantastic Hand Cannon for PvP.

[@imwaifu433]

I have a underrated version of spareration with hammer forged, ricochet, slide shot , swashbuckler and range master work and I love it. Tbh I don't know why people hate so much on swashbuckler. Great video tho❤

[@PanduhGG]

thank you

[@maxdieldiaz]

I kinda miss the 144hz recording. I know its prob a lot of work but it looks so nice and smooth

[@rook529]

You gotta watch out for that creepy role-play rumble demon from now on... Good luck homie

[@jaybost5659]

We need an update on how u feel about spare after the recent recoils change to it

[@GERASIFARA1989]

How you do that when you close your hunter doesn't throw the knife? Because mine even if im standing in front of you throws the knife...and don't tell me about powered melee been there done that

[@cyborkninja1139]

That's what it is, if you use the uncharged melee key you wont ever throw the knife

[@GERASIFARA1989]

@@cyborkninja1139 you mean different key for each one?

[@cyborkninja1139]

@@GERASIFARA1989 yep

[@GERASIFARA1989]

@@cyborkninja1139 nahhh i csnt do that fuck

[@anthonymarquez7542]

Crazy how bad people who use immortal are. That titans was so bad anytime he got pressed

[@jgalYT]

was level 50 on the season pass before I got my first to drop :') , at least I had my og rapid hit/ rf that I never deleted in the meawhile

[@walkerknight4569]

Shader check??? Guardian looks fire

[@REAL_BigBoiLifts]

It’s the new one I think in eververse rn, or it was that one pink shader during last solstice

[@connorthompson22]

i honestly decided to go with the benny roll of rapid hit kill clip, and it feels nice for sure!

[@danmuffnman7271]

when are you streaming again

[@PanduhGG]

Friday

[@Vynlocke]

I also got a 4/5. Got Armor Piercing instead of Ricochet, but I honestly don’t care. It feels sooooooo good

[@jaybowo7159]

Idk how many more deep dives i can do till i get a good roll, my friend got the roll first try and something inside of me snapped, i didn't care anymore i didn't care about being better than kakarot

[@IPain94]

Ive got a full bore ricochet rapid hit opening shot with Range mw. For me a 5/5 Slide or rapid plus opening is just too good on this weapon

[@comet1178]

Good shit panduh I got hammer forged, ricochet rounds n rapid hit with kill clip n a stability masterwork, feels amazing already got 32 body's on it just from 2 games with it was range masterwork tho😭

[@sabre6464]

its so nice but my aim just fell off so hard from the day break i took when day 1 of this season wasnt working

[@wazsan]

They’re going to buff it for sure. It’s an adaptive with lightweight stats. Made a mistake?

[@eynon1579]

I have always found lightweight stuff to have wonky hit registration, which is probably why this feels better for you over Rose.

[@stuartsherrill5151]

I have the same roll as you but i have full bore and a reload master lol but it does feel good

[@Korbin21]

1:44 Does nobody else see the dude crouching in the corner haha

[@EssentialVitamins]

Congrats on 100K 💪

[@PanduhGG]

Thank you 🙌

[@lnfirms]

Haven’t used any engrams since the past week 1/2 and have around 400 engrams ready to go

[@cyborkninja1139]

Dayum

[@axe2grind244]

I like it. Feels crispy on console. Not Dire Promise levels of crisp but it’s nice.

[@vvarrunn]

This is exact same roll I got and I absolutely love it. Feels better than rose on a controller

[@jeboaa]

give up? im rocking it rn and its not even slideshot/openingshot

[@hunterschloegl3231]

Just because most things about the gun are bad 😂😂. Fantastic convincing skills panduh

[@cheislies0012]

See Panduh this is what you're supposed to do, to bring balance back into the force!! This video was so cool to see, even when you were facing a Graviton on 2nd game I was cheering on u lol.

[@vHavq]

As a controller player i got moving target opening shot with hammer forged range but no ricoshet

[@skorpion7732]

Maybe Im tripping but I swear the sound helps the feel of the gun

[@PandaXStorm]

and compared to a hawkmoon ?

[@Woody17317]

These thumbnails are fantastic.

[@raiden4429]

I got full bore high cal slideshot and op shot with range mw, should i keep that one or keep farming for ricochet round ?

[@dave7474]

High cal is fine youre just missing out on 10 stability, use it and see if you like it! If not.. get back to farmin

[@overbe]

instashard

[@ryanmiller167]

Dont forget your getting extra range and damage when pickingnup ammo(on your first shot)

[@carlossaunders3130]

Hand cannons, shotguns snipers and fusion rifles are my least favorite too use in destiny especially shotguns and snipers

[@markusrose7661]

I'm grinding for the max range roll with opening + slide

[@KaPzLok]

The closest thing that I have is Hammer forged Ricochet rounds Moving target Opening shot W/reload MW Almost...it's good-ish, but I KNOW that there is a better one out there.. My current 2nd best one is Fullbore Armor-piercing rounds Rapid hit Opening shot... But I know and if I know then You KNOW..there is a better one

[@Juan0824]

The gun is a quality gun…it’s still very good…it’s just lacks a little range where Rose surpasses it along with it being a lightweight frame giving that extra boost of mobility. Still a very solid choice imo.

[@ItzPolar9]

when is cbmm coming back?

[@PanduhGG]

It should be back 🤨

[@Squidkilla23]

Finally someone not sleeping on it. This thing is good. Edit, btw the game gave me the exact roll you wanted but with kinetic tremors instead of opening shot. Range MW, fullbore, ricochet slideshot kinetic tremors. I'm so pissed at it.

[@overbe]

I've just focused 10 and got 8 with tremors. The best so far is Snapshot/Swash, Hammer, HiCal and Range MW. Feels so snappy

[@DaddyGreer65]

I love Spare and Rose, but Eyasluna still takes the cake for me.

[@christopherniceley8848]

I’ll stick with Ace, I don’t know why I like that damn hand cannon lol

[@DaddyGreer65]

@@christopherniceley8848 Ace and Hawkmoon still slap

[@YouscaremeJeremy]

By far my favorite handcannon in the game. I will be spending every single engram I have till I get the god roll. Especially since the game would not give me a good Rose.

[@Sora-o]

I fricken miss this meta so much, mindbenders spare or dire promise was the best

[@Freelix2000]

3:13 This dude is attempting the "be an arc titan in Rumble and not be the cringiest mf in the whole game" challenge! (it's impossible)

[@kanekkiii]

Hey panduh I think I got a five out of five spare rations Hammer forged rifle Ricochet rounds slideshot opening shot with the range Masterwork

[@ケイレブ]

sheeeeeeesh

[@cullen7793]

“Not better than a SMG” 😂

[@maddenhighlightzz]

The god roll you are looking for is slide shot kill clip with armour piercing rounds small bore and a range masterwork (this is the roll I ended up with and it's really good)

[@DiddyCanFly]

I have this roll with small bore, I really like it.

[@AndrewOnYoutube]

2 more meters of Range? Like if they brought it back with the perks it originally had? Rangefinder. Explosive Payload. It's nuts how they made these guns worse after they were sought after for so long. I KNOW THEY'RE CHANGING RF

[@diegogonzalez8308]

When range finder gets its range nerf this hc will be high A tier

[@masont1879]

I got a rapid hit/swash and I haven’t put it down

[@yvng3li294]

Honestly just a lil stat boost and its #1 again

[@TheY0shi]

The reason there are so many "bots" in rumble right now is because rumble is bugged right now and gives way more rep then it should like 400-500 rep per match so all those people are farming pvp rep right now. So did i earlier. took me only a couple of hours to get two resets for the last rite ornament

[@funpinkgnome]

I'd use Spare a lot more if I could get a drop without goddamn Kinetic Tremors

[@temuthy]

Before I even watch this I don’t wanna hear it bro this version of spare is such copium, the fact that it came back as a 140 with a 150 stat package is gross and criminal, and other hand cannons like rose and exalted truth exist. I will give spare though that it has one of the best feels for a gun in Destiny history, but I hate that you have to have practically a 5/5 for it to be remotely decent. Just my thoughts though.

[@kimberlyfalcone2404]

didn’t understand a word you said

[@temuthy]

@@kimberlyfalcone2404 Stop chiefin the copium and it’ll all be clear 🤘🏾

[@orangemonsterOM]

@@kimberlyfalcone2404 how…

[@DreamDeitySleepy]

You coulda boiled all this down " I don't like it, but that's just me"

[@temuthy]

@@DreamDeitySleepy oh i didn’t know explaining was illegal

[@aidanmorris5309]

Gonna grind a gr just for the nostalgia anyway 😅

[@Hellspwn6]

I like mine a lot. Hammer forged APR Rapid hit Kill clip Range master work

[@OgiRaime]

yea the handcannon is crispy, its just this csgo meta of holding angles with pulses makes handcannons not the best rn

[@quinlangauna3702]

I got the God roll today, hammer forged, ricochet rounds, slide shot, swashbuckler, range masterwork, but I just hate the sight so it will just be a fun thing to use every now and then

[@crispcaddy3064]

Anyone wanna tell him?

[@nitriousgd4323]

Nah. We’ll let him believe it

[@Isaac-uk8rv]

@@crispcaddy3064 that’s literally a god roll you’re a jim if you think slide swash is bad

[@crispcaddy3064]

@@Isaac-uk8rv they call me Jimmy Neutron

[@NFugah]

I just love that hand cannon and when I panduh use it I love it more ❤🚀

[@texmechanica3405]

There’s definitely something to spare. My ok roll feels so much better than my god roll rose.

[@verderer2831]

YO I JUST GOT THE GOD ROLL SLIDESHOT OPENING SHOT

[@SepticEmpire]

Everyone clowning on spare But just watch when this rangefinder nerf comes and everyone’s god roll roses don’t hit the same Spare will be king again And the best part is rose will be unobtainable while spare will still be obtainable for two more seasons

[@nitriousgd4323]

Exactly why I’m still farming for it

[@overbe]

Rose has more viable perks in each column, plus it's lightweight. Rations has interesting origin trait: pick up ammo and you'll have increased ranged and flinch resistance for 1.5 sec after firing first shot.

[@jormungandr4690]

Thats GIGA copium. Rose is lightweight, has OBJECTIVELY better stats and has the best HC perk EP. Spare has literally 0 chance to compete

[@gizmo2445]

On the firing range podcast Bungie said that Handcannons will be getting a range increase to make HCs, pulses, and ARs live around 35m to 40m. This plus zoom changes will make spare rations just as good as it once was, you’re gonna get your wish for sure.

[@SirTotallyCooki]

No it won't, in forsaken things like flinch weren't affected by stability so you could relatively easily 'forsake' it (pardon the pun) in favour of max range. It's also no longer got the benefit of being a 150, nor having the lightweight bonus. Any modern 140 is gonna wipe the floor with it.

[@gizmo2445]

@@SirTotallyCooki yea, your right, I’ll take your opinion over the weapons team at Bungie. Thanks.

[@SirTotallyCooki]

@@gizmo2445 Ah yes, my mistake, I forgot the Bungie team verbatum saying:'The spare rations will feel as good as it did during forsaken' instead of just saying they'd get a moderate buff. But even if they had, this is the same weapons design team that's let 750 RPM SMGs run rampant in the crucible for 3 seasons straight now. Look at the base stats of Palindrome, Eyasluna, Austringer, Fatebringer, Ace of Spades, Exalted truth, Rose. Then look at their optimal rolls, there is no way spare rations is ever going to compete with that without a significant stat boost or the lightweight bonus.

[@gizmo2445]

@@SirTotallyCooki yeah that is your mistake, you should go back and listen again and pay close attention to them saying they want to squish the range band on hand cannons so that 180s 140s and 120s all have similar range. When zoom no longer provides damage fall off distance, rangefinder won’t be the go to perk anymore thus removing one of the advantages the other 140s have over spare right now. I didn’t say spare would be the best hand cannon in the entire fucking game, I said it would have range or fall off distance to at least compete with the other hand cannons and it will. Squishing the range band is an expressed goal by the weapons team for Pulses, Hand Cannons, and ARs.

[@SirTotallyCooki]

@@gizmo2445 Yeah, you didn't say spare rations would be the best hand cannon in the game, you said it would be as good as it once was, which, again is blatantly untrue. It'll keep taking the most amount of flinch, it'll still have the lowest range in the archetype, and it still won't have the rate of fire, nor the lightweight bonus that it had before. Out of all the options for handcannons it will be one of the worst.

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

Wallah says it sucks, and now this in the same day

[@1dawny]

i gave up but because of this video i will no longer give up