Do NOT Max Liu Che BEFORE Watching This! Rise of Kingdoms Liu Che Guide

Do NOT Max Liu Che BEFORE Watching This! Rise of Kingdoms Liu Che Guide
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Chapters:
0:00 Liu Che Guide in Rise of Kingdoms
1:34 Sargon's Awed Debuff
3:25 Smite Damage Benefits
4:56 Extra Normal Attack Benefits
9:08 MORE Awed Debuff Stacks
10:01 Accessories?
12:27 Should YOU Get Liu Che?
15:11 BEST Pair for Liu Che
19:20 Guan Yu OR Liu Che?
23:36 Other Pairs for Liu Che
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[@OmniarchOfficial]

EDIT: Apparently accessories can be triggered by extra normal attacks! What do YOU think about Liu Che so far in Rise of Kingdoms? 🤔 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! We're SO close to 60k! Also shoutout to Wout Gaming for some early test results! www.youtube.com/@woutgaming9685/

[@justdoitimposibleisnothing]

Para mí es buen comandante, lo usaré!

[@jenniferdouze2883]

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[@Reg101st]

Against advise if I were to run 3 INF combo which ones should It be? With either Guan/Scipio/Sargon/Liu Che probably as the 3 primary who should I pair them with?

[@shahanaahmed3441]

@OmniarchOfficial I got Guan+Scipio Expertise and Alex too. I was wondering about doing Guan+Scipio / Liu Che+Alex, because of the skill tree? Please tell me your opinion on what to do. I got 2 inf gears too.

[@lao5960]

I seen Liu Che primary and Sargon secondary looked strong reports showed was even a bit better but they didn't say what Was used as talents or equipment

[@harshanutalapati7626]

Nice video...crisp and clear as always..👍👍

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I do my best! Thanks for the kind words :)

[@robb7802]

Awesome video ( very informative ) Keep up the great work. Be safe 😊

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you! :)

[@S.D.0000]

Yes you can proc multiple times during Sargon's Active. Our kingdom Testing just had a whopping 4 procs out of 5 making Sargon's skill go to 4500 Skill damage total

[@emrevatansever15]

Waited all day for this video

[@OmniarchOfficial]

lets goooo!!

[@somevoter]

Great and informative video. Thanks! Just one question, why Sargon primary and Liu che secondary? Saw some other tests that liu che as primary did better compared to Sargon primary.

[@JS-.-]

With the different types of infantry gear which is best for him? Full inf set or adding more of the defense health gear?

[@new_x_bie575]

guys can i ask? do you put armaments and equipments in your secondary commander? will they add stats to your march if you do so? thank you

[@thisisalaligaworldhistory278]

You are really good youtuber

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you! :)

[@AdrianGarcia-cj7ux]

Sike!

[@shahanaahmed3441]

​@@OmniarchOfficialI got Guan+Scipio Expertise and Alex too. I was wondering about doing Guan+Scipio / Liu Che+Alex, because of the skill tree? Please tell me your opinion on what to do. I got 2 inf gears too.

[@altaimetin8686]

True things

[@timtaylor5638]

He is good tho camera work editing etc dosnt even have to spend like a whale to keep us entertained inside the game

[@GrowmietheGreen]

I NEEDED THIS, YOU PROVIDED!! THANK YOU, SIR!! 💪💪💪

[@ThatOneWeirdooo]

Do you have the link to join the infantry discord?

[@korisnickoime571]

do you think greatest glory is better than vengance for zeno hera city garrison ?

[@hirziazmi]

Om, scipio or liu che is best for 5511 ?

[@zafranling8104]

should i invest in phyrrhus or richard or charles

[@Icon137]

If you can field Gorgo. She’s a must. Even F2P cuz of her ability to protect you and other game modes like arc. Probably only commander that would allow such diversity.

[@seanorr5105]

Thoughts on Alex-liu che? Just until the next smite commander comes out. I can either get Liu che or boudica but he will only get better with time while boudica will only get worse

[@ryanking8960]

Could I pair him with pericles until i get a decent leg commander.

[@Icon137]

Love that you talked bout Alex and CM. We aren’t all swimming in gold heads 😂

[@brunobrunello4458]

I use 2 marches infa Guan Leo and Scipio Alex, then Nevsky Joan and Boudica ysg ( with epic equipment) should I go for Liu and pass to Guan Alex and Scipio Liu? I am f2p so I have gh only for 1commander D:

[@Madao_98]

Hello guys, Is it worth pairing Scipio with Lu Che if I can only make him 5511? or I continue expertizing Zhuge Liang and with my Scipio+Mehmed pairing? I can make Liu Che 5511 right now but I'd have to wait one month to expertize ZL and we have a big fight on this Friday

[@jamielane8696]

So i don't have a SoC infantry unlocked. Have Nevsky-Joan and maxed YSG. In KvK3 so I'm having archer wheel the next day instead of inf. I like Liu's kit but i don't have anyone decent to pair with except maybe Aethel or Martel. Do i skip Liu until i get Scipio to a good spot or do i get Zhuge to pair with YSG. Inf and Arch gear are equally bad so yeah lol. Great vid btw, Omni 👌.

[@skoshow8418]

Scipio first

[@josephdelorenzo351]

If I have skip and guan expertise. And Sargon is 5551. I know I need to exp Sargon. but should I even invest in Liu Che until have Sargon exp? And if I have guan, skip and Sargon expertise, and Liu Che at 5551, what should the pairings be?

[@user-jw7tg1ue6e]

Scipio/Mehmed and Boudica/YSG. Do I get expertise from Liu Che or Zhuge lian?

[@cyberlord645]

I'm in kvk 2 rn butt kvk 2 will end before the sign in stops so ima wait and see if I can get him

[@emrevatansever15]

I need some advices. I am playing kvk3 and SoC commanders will be on the next wheel for the first time. I have expertised YSG mid kvk1 and saved 750 gold heads since kvk1. I am planning to expert Scipio P and use Scipio&YSG as my main march with full legendary infantry set. I also want to use 5111 nevsky&joan and 2 march all I can do. Or expert Scipi&mehmed(5211), 5111 Nevsky &Joan, 5111Zhuge&Expert YSG(but archer wheel comes so late)

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I think your first choice is better!

[@KodaliAkhil]

Expertise Scipio Prime. You can Use Scipio/Mehmed or SunTzu. Since you’ve Ysg, go for ZL(2 circle aoe) and you’ll get amazing kills. Try to expertise Scipio Prime and Zhuge 5511 atleast. You’re sorted with 2 amazing marches

[@emrevatansever15]

@@KodaliAkhil So 2nd option. Its 1-1 :/

[@kylepetko21]

Are we using arch formation with this?

[@neikyy2564]

sargon only applys more awed debuffs to a single target if lue ches expertise pops at least twice during the two seconds

[@mre73]

Until I see testing with Pyrrhus, all these suggestions for Liu Che's "best pair" are best guesses. I don’t think it's a coincidence that a commander that mostly buffs normal attacks was released shortly before a "Smite Damage" commander.

[@shahidgordon9364]

You are the best KZbinr

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you :)

[@chemysaputra4612]

I only have guan infa,Is it good if i pair guan liu che

[@AlphaKiNGDad]

Got a question Omni if you dont mind helping if i dont have sargon invested in . Currently using Guan/Alex & Scipio YSG what would you do since im running 2 infantry marches

[@kingstogodshm3251]

Keep gaun/alex and switch to scipio/liu

[@AlphaKiNGDad]

@kingstogodshm3251 that's what I was thinking

[@sakyojapan8224]

Is he a top priority as nev/joan ?

[@yasith2426]

Bro is majestic 😎

[@hoplite_hr]

Is he an f2p or budget friendly? I mean like scipio 5511/5551 is absolutely usable. ?

[@winoo3610]

How about scipio ysg, alex ae kvk3 then do scipio Alex , Sargon liu che after

[@woutgaming9685]

@omniarch, yes i tested it as first. Expertised 00:01 😂. Used it on my own KZbin too. Sadly my YT doesnt grow as steady as yours, can i have some tips?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Amazing! Thanks for testing for the community :) Very expensive test LOL I think perhaps more frequent uploads and some more time spent on thumbnails 🙏

[@woutgaming9685]

@@OmniarchOfficial yes thumbnails is my weak point, idk where and how to make those more attractive 😂

[@woutgaming9685]

I can also confirm the ring and horn effect, it triggers these. They were in my video as well. Horn was i think

[@rezaandrianharahap6891]

Kombo with sargon liu che primary or second ?

[@groundzer0gaming537]

We are looking forward to see report on pyrrus and liu che combo

[@lyric6007]

Is there an Archer Discord because stated Infantry discord?

[@DimasSaputrazz]

Let's go 😊

[@OmniarchOfficial]

lets goooo! cheers!

[@matthewrose9842]

Yes Ring of Doom and Horn of Fury work!

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you!

[@wilmerjimenezfranco824]

Liu Chen hits very hard with scipio first and Chen second. It has already been tested, it beats boudica with few troops alive

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah hitting like an absolute truck for sure!

[@Jokersxsx]

So no need for arch formation

[@wilmerjimenezfranco824]

@@Jokersxsx It was tested with all kinds of march including boudica and the duo is really good. Efraínfoundlove that’s a live where he does the test.

[@ReapeR-zl4kj]

Iiu che 5511 pair with max scipio its good?

[@kissmyaxe__]

Is Sargon maxed if he's primary to LC???

[@quinten_m23]

I already go for scipi liu che but i dont know what to do with my guan i do wanna get 2 inf marches, any recemondations?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I'd do Guan/Scipio and then Liu Che with either Sargon or Tariq honestly :) Could even do Liu Che with Alex or Martel if you don't have anything better

[@Mujisu5102]

Liu Che is better than I expected 😮

[@ItsUltra09]

Looks like infantry is getting the respect it deserves!

[@tack3411]

By the time 90% of inf mains max Liu Che there will be a new broken cav and arch out sadly

[@vtrsimple2673]

What do you think about Thutmose/Zhuge against Scipi/Liu, thutmose has damage reduction skills and that Boudica is missing, then maybe Thut Zhuge pairing can finally beat Sci Liu?

[@lizardjesus2501]

I'm going to be using ZL/thutmose on my restart once I hit kvk3

[@jaydenlynch4668]

can someone help me should i invest in accessors or equipment first i have all purple equipment on my cav march should i get some legendary pieces or get a ring or horn

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Get a mix of purple and legendary equipment and then go for accessories!

[@marseille1196]

Do you think smite will eventually replace skill damage? Is it still worth getting skill damage aramanets or commanders?

[@S.D.0000]

Not replace but an additional damage factor classification.

[@Durmomo0]

ID like to run Guan/Scipio and Sargon/Liu Che. What formation would I use for Sargon/Liu Che? I have focused on wedge and I also have some hollow square. Is it worth it to go for Arch formation or not?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Since you probably already have better wedge formation armaments I'd use that for now and hold off on using transmutation stones. If we see new Smite commanders for Cavs/Archers then probably worth looking into Arch more

[@S.D.0000]

I say do Guan/Sargon and Scipio/Liu because you can't spread Awed effect with Liu's skill

[@Durmomo0]

Thanks @@OmniarchOfficial

[@Durmomo0]

@@S.D.0000 thank you

[@providentiadei4986]

Fleisch tested it, liu che - alex surprisingly the best combo

[@ianmichaelremollo9217]

bro which is better Scippy+liuchi or Guan+scippy?

[@zeddboy9565]

So whats better? Scipio Liu che or Sargon liu che? I'm f2p and aiming to have 1 infantry march only (the wheel is coming and i really need an answer fast please)

[@KodaliAkhil]

Scipio anyday! Scipio Prime brings in alot of advantages in Open Field

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Scipio Liu Che is probably the way!

[@5781juliandragon]

I'm using cpo liu Che now.. And i like it..

[@yaser-the-wolf]

sargan 5111 is good with lu che 5511??????

[@ryepascasio4100]

my fav pair ( Omni / chisgule ) thanks...

[@mandyfieldings6863]

great content! you speak like an infantry main😂

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I am deep down still ;)

[@GrowmietheGreen]

Omni bro, im hard up on a decision here.... i was working on Joan to pair with my exp. Nev. Ive been using nev with mina, and guan/scipio. I have my joan to 5111, but as an infantry (best equipment/city skin) main, i cant decide if i should just keep going on joan, or began working on che to pair with my scipio. As we speak, i am vip 14 and i can take che straight to 5511. Edit: im concerned that guan is losing gas fast

[@S.D.0000]

If you have enough Skill resets for Joan 5115, that's your best path.

[@GrowmietheGreen]

​@S.D.0000 thanks for the advice bro! At this time, I have only 2 skill resets. I'll recover more over time, but I had spent like 6 on guan trying to 5155 him, wound up at 5354, and ultimately expertising him anyways 🤦‍♂️ what a waste.

[@anjingkucing7018]

cheers

[@Viiiolet7]

I will definitely get him ❤

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Me too, very happy for infantry players :)

[@Viiiolet7]

Was wondering when is his wheel, because I got sad when it wasn't in the wheel today 🙈

[@xyamox_trapper]

Guys is the anniversairy event going to be in new born kindgoms

[@mpninegaming6553]

I heard Frederick/Liu Che works well, too.

[@AdaS2k9]

Who to choose Nevsky + Joanna (5115 if successful with 6 resets), or Take Liu to my max Scypio. Currently, I have two pairs: Boudika YSG and Scypio Alex (the best equipment on them). I also have Mina 5411 and Mehmed 5522 on the bench.

[@andreacatania8183]

I was in your same exact situation, with 5 resets. At the end, Scipio/Alex are fine so I went for 5411 Nevsky and with 2 attempts Joan 5215. Now I'll finish my Nevsky while working on Zhuge Liang (currently 5533). When done with ZL, I'm gonna have Henry to 5511 since I already have Boudica and YSG maxed.

[@rokinfantry]

if gorgo proc the skill faster than skill tree without the feral nature and liu as primary then I think gorgo might be a good field commander with anyone I guess. but it's only her 900rage and 2300dmg factor what makes her shiny😂

[@AhmedMohamed-iy8ki]

I have an experienced Skippo. Go to the new commander with him and make him 5551. Is this the best option for a single infantry march?

[@ibrahimsiddik6686]

5515 liu better then 5551

[@harisbesirovic2656]

Maybe with more smite dgm gona be priority, but now huo, Zu liang are def priority. Except if you are inf player

[@doobyscoo5322]

Just wanna mention for the record. He is an infantry commander with a 5 march aoe that hits for over 2k. Like how bad of an investment can it be. Cant people think for themselves?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Let people enjoy content tho

[@doobyscoo5322]

@@OmniarchOfficial i completely understand where most people who ask about him are coming from . But like i wrote in the original comment. For real. How bad of an investment can he be really

[@Basmati_Rice]

I think its reasonable to be hesitant, until they bring out more smite commanders. They bought out siege coms, which didn't even get close to becoming meta, leadership gear and coms were a bad invest. They could do the same for smite coms. Say the next infa com does skill dmg and has equal or more likely better skills/ stats. Liu will also become not the best longterm invest, if they don't drop more smite coms.

[@jenniferdouze2883]

You should do a live

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Soon!

[@georgeosamaa]

will 5551 Sargon with expertise Liu be good neough or Sargon has to be expertised?

[@Jaffonso23]

he wasnt on my wheel sadge

[@paumangayayam3768]

I only have ysg and scipio is it fine to invest ng LC and bench ysg for now? Nc content btw man!! 👍

[@S.D.0000]

I say run Scipio/LC then if you have Mehmed, do Ysg/Mehmed as Archer march.

[@danbernardes1726]

Liu Che Freddie meta

[@Hydrobladegiyuu]

I dont understand why no one is talking about liu che with gorgo. It must be by far the pairing with most synergy when gorgo does come out. Even with no march speed i think theyve got to be broken paired together on the field

[@99keltin]

Isn’t gorgon for garrison. Do u think it’s good for garrison and open field?

[@bankroll174]

@@99keltinbro yes it’s obviously gonna be good for open field the only thing she won’t have from her kit is the 30% health

[@XanderROK]

You're better off with expertise Alex secondary 😂

[@rayman7596]

​@@bankroll174give me a good relevant garrison commander that can perform well in soc kvk

[@bankroll174]

@@rayman7596 bro it doesn’t matter whether she’s garrison she will do good in the field buddy this the first time

[@henrikwerner7441]

There are many other tests (e.g. in Fleischs livestream) which are showing that Liu Alex performs really good. Some reports are even better than Liu Sargon.

[@abelrojak]

i have 530 GH, my cmd is guan,scipio, martel, saladin, ysg 5511. should i spend in liu che? or max my ysg for pair with saladin?

[@Jota7565]

Forget Ysg and Saladin, just make meta commanders

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I'd skip Liu Che for now :) Focus on maybe Zhuge Liang next, or a cavalry pair

[@mikeystanford1984]

I’m saving my gold heads still to come 😂lol

[@TheAverise]

I maxed him out before watching your video. What's now?

[@shwanakamal2422]

Liu che primary or secondary ??

[@johnlandrigan6578]

chisgules caesar wasnt double relicked maybe not relicked at all. this is the flaw with multiple tests

[@zlc9613]

Quick question, do relics work in both canyons?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

yes!

[@zlc9613]

@@OmniarchOfficial thanks

[@vishnusaravanan3754]

I just make liu chi 5511 and pair him with 5551 scipio .As a f2p I want more aoe to get decent KP in soc 😢

[@_sc4recr0w_d8]

The extra normal attack can trigger accessories.

[@ibrahimsiddik6686]

Me already test with support skill on soc ,normal attack from joan bastion and boudica has 48 percent normal atk damage, so far so good

[@aldyshinwa]

I'm using GuanYu - Sargon and Scipio - Alex (i will change him with LiuChe).

[@5781juliandragon]

Don't have sargon so i pair him with cpo So far so good

[@5781juliandragon]

My liu Che is 5551 now.. And he is doing good so far

[@matteopaoloni4840]

It’s better to max out sargon or liu che first? I have scipio maxed of course

[@skoshow8418]

Liu has an insane expertise. Sargon is good but not his best at 5550

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Liu Che is better at expertise. If you use Sargon primary you can get away with 5551 or 5553 until you can go back and expertise him

[@lizardjesus2501]

My Liu chang hits pretty hard behind my Constantine in canyon. Idk if it's because Constantine relic. But definitely preforming better than Scipio in my canyon lineup

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah constantine relic is nice for liu!

[@NoahJonesNews]

I’m glad my Freddy can be used

[@OmniarchOfficial]

LMAO I suppose!

[@ibrahimsiddik6686]

I think for f2p scipio 5515 & liu che 5515 its good ,not everyone has a lot of goldheads lol

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Agreed!

[@hungvan4915]

How about lil alex I saw on ytb and that's not bad

[@swprodigy1663]

Our Kingdom has Infantry Wheel of Fortune today but Liu Che is not among the commander choices....any idea why?

[@afizpinissi522]

next wof maybe😄😄

[@swprodigy1663]

@@afizpinissi522 😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@aidkant350]

Thank for translot arab bro ❤❤❤❤

[@connorsharpe4730]

Would che/Alex be good March ?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Decent!

[@lizardjesus2501]

Liu/Aethel . Liu spreading that march speed debuff with aethels expertise could be really punchy

[@ibrahimsiddik6686]

But aeth damage 800 only, if u enemy nevsky joan you gonna bad trade 😭

[@Ubbe3039]

Hello 👋🏻

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Hey! :D

[@davidw.5185]

I will wait for the Smite Archer.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Wonder how long that'll take! Should be interesting for sure

[@davidw.5185]

@OmniarchOfficial the pace of commander releases is so quick, I doubt it will be long. I only run one infantry March, but two archer. I assume the Smite Archer will crush the infantry. I will save gold heads for that, and gems. Good video ty 😊

[@xDread]

Not sure if archers will get Smite damage. They added Smite damage, because commanders who rely on normal attack buffs were falling off. Archers commanders don't buff normal attacks like Cav and Infantry commanders do - with the exception of like El Cid and Tomoe Gozen🤣 New commanders are released with higher and higher skill damage, and commanders who buff normal attacks get weaker and weaker by comparison, because they don't scale with skill damage. Commanders like Attila, Pyrrhus, and Ceasar deal consistent damage over time, but they don't pair well with the newer high skill damage nukers - since their buffs are focused mainly on increasing troop damage. Smite damage gives the developers a way to tweak the balance of normal attack based commanders, and opens up the option for normal attack based commanders to bring a secondary commander that focusses on the damage of their active skill. Being able to buff damage, launch a big AOE, and retreat afterwards will make these normal attack based commanders better in the field and not only used for rallying or duels.

[@davidw.5185]

@xDread We'll see. You may be correct but I will wait for the next Archer release just in case. No rush for me in my unique situation

[@aasd1789]

Can you test atilla/liu che as a cav commander ?

[@S.D.0000]

No because all 3 passive skills are Infantry locked with terms "If this commanders troops consist of Infantry only..." and "Infantry units lead by this commander..." So only at 5111 or 5000(level 10) he works with Attila

[@aasd1789]

@@S.D.0000 i see, i thought it would only loose attack/defense bonus

[@bernardcamot3194]

I think he is good

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Very!

[@gjinro743]

Issue I have with these Inf commanders are you have to stay with the target. Which always problematic in the field. lol if you stay with them deep deep. Sure you crush. but all your marches get wrecked as well. Still a no at least for me.

[@S.D.0000]

40% March Speed reduction on Liu Che helps to stick around

[@gjinro743]

@@S.D.0000 it's not you sticking to the target. There's a ton of march speed reduction in the game the target getting away is a problem. The problem is it takes forever for your march to get the hits it needs. Aka an Atilla hit. So by the time you get your lovely smite. You are sooooo deep in the ball.

[@doobyscoo5322]

Dude, what are you even saying