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[@DaShikuXI]

Put the incarnon on a regular Bo, then pick the 0.5m range option. That + Primed Reach and a full disposition riven can give you the best pot breaking quick melee weapon in the game.

[@brawl145]

The Bo and Bo Prime have the same disposition. The Mk-1 Bo has a +0.05x disposition but lower overall stats.

[@DisProveMeWrong]

Melee incarnons as a whole need a change.

[@criomede9536]

DE: Proceeds to nerf primary/secondary incarnons instead

[@00Grimreaper00]

​@@criomede9536 classic DE moment.

[@nobody4y]

​@@00Grimreaper00 The most DE move DE could pull

[@willmarsantiago2168]

Praedos reigns Supreme of them all

[@beeleuazevedo8142]

​@@willmarsantiago2168hahah... Kronen

[@TheSonsofSigmar]

If they swapped parry angle and the combo count on parry with improving the Follow Through it would be WAY better.

[@tako5018]

alternatively: remove follow through completely!

[@sirbonely6664]

@@tako5018 You want to remove follow through? You will be hitting one enemy per melee attack, what the hell are you on about?

[@dominictoth972]

They obviously mean the follow through multiplier not the ability to hit multiple enemies

[@sirbonely6664]

@@dominictoth972 I know, i just wanted him to phrase that a bit better

[@forbsey276]

@@sirbonely6664 What is follow through?

[@IplayTeemoasaWard]

The Furax is even worse then, the special gimmick, the burning zone on Heavy slam deals 2 digit damage and is incredibly tiny. Not even mentioning that the slam knocks all enemies away from it

[@g0blinslayr299]

The gimmick is bad but its definitely a better melee than the bo incarnon, 0.9 follow thru is sexy af. Bo incarnon has insane range but a trash 0.5 follow thru to support it, making it kinda redundant. Also thier’s a possibility the furax’s gimmick could be bugged atm

[@luketfer]

damn it....made the mistake of picking the Furax over the Latron, Got the Strun though so...that's nice.

[@Rabbit-o-witz]

Goddamnit i picked the two worst? Seriously?

[@euclxd8033]

there has never been a good fist weapon in warframe

[@CurrentlyAimless]

@@euclxd8033 Thats sadly true, but i still love the Furax since they look slick.^^ Its actual my most used Melee.

[@orangesouls7112]

Looks like we chose the same weapons this week. I kinda liked the built in 70% efficiency build just for a decent hybrid build. It isn't flashy like the guns, but it's at least another "gets the job done" melee on the pile if Duviri would ever stop giving me whips and heat dagger over and over.

[@usefulbobcat]

I think duviri is trying to tell you something

[@orangesouls7112]

@@usefulbobcat Whatever it's trying to tell me, I don't want to know.

[@svenabel2987]

That Lecta is appearing suspiciously often

[@NaziZombieDestroyer3]

The incarnon form I've been looking forward to the most is the Hate, my favorite melee weapon in the game. I'm getting pretty worried now.

[@MrHeiska01]

Well... It will be upgrade to Hate no matter what.

[@DKSean]

This is unfortunate, I chose the Bo as it's a weapon I want to be good, so hoped the adaptor would give it a new lease of life

[@Vaedrath]

honestly, i enjoy the bo incarnon, brings me back to the days where rivens gave % range and not static. also ive found that going the +30% status and pure heat does nearly the same as slash but can be way more consistent

[@KiaCya1]

Bo has treated me alright so far, but I built it as a status weapon instead of both crit and status. With Condition overload and Weeping wounds. Wielding it solo for the double combo count means it can use 12x heavies on targets that dont die instantly. It definitely not better than a lot of the better melees in the game, but applying two status every swing with Condition Overload is usually pretty decent.

[@stealthcobra1525]

Apparently Furax allows you to keep your combo counter going when swapping weapons, so that one should be worth doing... But yeah so far i've been skipping all melee incarnons as I was super dissapointed by the melee incarnon in Angels of Zarimann... So far I loved Paris, Kunai is pretty damn hilarious on non-steel path with Energized Munitions and the exploding kunai mods (infinite turret of DOOM), Strun is a Beast and Furis is also pretty damn good due to being the only gun that can heal ya besides Hema plus the fact it turns into essentially the short range operator flamethrower prism in it's operator form and it actually gets decent crit when in said mode. So 4/4 were overly positive picks.

[@mysterytechno3770]

i don't know what you've been smoking but the Preados and Innodem are super good. But yeah, the Duviri incarnons are really good minus the melee.

[@darkthunder10x64]

Yeah I wasn’t expecting the furis to be this good. I got a riven an for it and it melts enemies.

[@dreamingleviathan3354]

Counterpoint Instead of just spamming heavy attack going for a speed and shattering impact build to strip armor massively quick (as adverse to warframe Abilities which just seem to only work for a limited amount of time)

[@the_Duckyster]

Major regret on picking the furax, melees seem overall meh so far. Still considering the Dual Ichor in week 4 though, the only other appealing weapo in that week is atomos and i like the dual ichor quite a lot.

[@suschilegge1683]

Dual ichor is already good on its own (against corpus specifically), so it should be great

[@Joe90h]

I think Torid is pretty close to being a great weapon already, Miter could potentially receive a massive glow up, and from what I've heard from somebody involved in DE's testing Dual Toxocyst Incarnon goes off pretty hard. I think that week isn't as open and shut as people might say.

[@copsychuszviharasoon1368]

you can check dual lchor leaked , it not different much.

[@ghengooni]

I know strun and latron have the spotlight this week, but furis is also a spectacular incarnon. It turns into a wide beam weapon, similar to a 7xx amp, with decent crit/status values and heat damage base. Like the strun, the incarnon has a deep capacity (280 and the drain per tick is low). It was reliably killing fully armored enemies in SP kuva survival with no riven in one tick using a pure heat hybrid crit/status build. I would honestly consider it competitive with laetum, especially if you do have a riven for it.

[@possummilk4262]

Plus it’s got that lifesteal augment mod which can fully heal an inaros in one tap

[@Cross1nsan1ty]

In short for ppl who have seen the Furis incarnon... it is moddable Klamora prism. Nuff said.

[@topcat69er]

The placement of the Bo from 2:12 onwards made me chuckle more than it should have.

[@Tjprower]

I ditched prime reach in favor of a faction damage mod since the incarnon mod range is more than it anyway and put blood rush, weeping wounds, and only the dual 60 toxin on it. When I gave an enemy a quick viral hose down or supplemented with a panzer, I was able to tear through 190 heavy goons quite handily. That combined with how quickly you can ramp up the combo meter on it, you can get quite a bit done with only a little time investment. It's not taking home best in slot, no, but I think it does work well.

[@rexsal6325]

Now you tell me. Lol. I picked the BO and Furax this week because I'm not smart. 🙃

[@bholm369]

They should make the heavy attack in incarnon a spin attack with guaranteed impact that pulls in enemies. Still wouldn't fix the follow through problem though.

[@ThunderJunkOC]

K good thought I was stupid for grabbing Furax over Bo. Now I know I'm stupid for considering either.

[@fluffywolfo3663]

Tbh I was never gonna pick melee anyway. Guns work better with Incarnon cause normally I just… I just don’t use melee long enough to proc the Incarnon effect. And I already aim for heads all the time.

[@shanemoody529]

Strangely enough the ceramic dagger incarnon is pretty good. Requires a bit of setup cause of the 100 primary kills but will straight up melt acolytes and will basically always be in incarnon form. Its no strun or Lex but its good.

[@BrinkOfDecay]

Does it ever get irritating to read comments that you're a meta slave, but you have bad builds? I dont understand. You've been one of the best warframe youtubers out there, a member of the old guard. I appreciate your deep dives into everything. Keep up the fantastic work Broz.

[@Raid3r_G4ming]

you would have to build this in a way where your proc impact more, weeping wounds crit chance crit damage some speed range maybe sudden impact? probably using a secondary as a primer for viral heat.

[@stoyc]

You can bind melee to mouse scroll wheel.

[@sajinkahnalt]

With shattering impact I was able to get an acolyte full stripped pretty quick. Viral heat did well, blood rush, weeping, suck and so on. Helps more with status priming. This was lower end Sp, but still, a major improvement from before. Do wish I tried the Latron instead, but it could’ve been worse for sure.

[@copsychuszviharasoon1368]

latron is top incarnon right now . . .

[@sajinkahnalt]

@@copsychuszviharasoon1368 what does that have to do with what i'm talking about though

[@copsychuszviharasoon1368]

@@sajinkahnalt well because you mention about latron

[@sajinkahnalt]

@@copsychuszviharasoon1368 ah. Yeah I kinda regret not picking the latron but I have no latron prime anymore. I’ll pick it up next time it comes around. Also sorry if I came off rude before. Wasn’t my intention, I could’ve chosen better words to ask why you brought it up. My bad

[@dustyflash]

I took the Furax Incarnon. Its a lot more fun than the Bo because of the actually good and fun weapon stances, but it still suffers from being kinda lackluster. It does have like one or three better level up choices though.

[@kingkino2116]

It also has the amalgam mod that goes well with the new Lex incarnon. Also gains combo on every blast proc

[@zer0rama572]

Thx for saying this after i picked it😂😂😂

[@Avabees]

Furax is also okay / 10. they went with a heavy slam gimmick. It gets the same impact to slash conversion as the bo

[@Seven7swords]

I modded Bo Prime for 7 meter range, Primed Heavy Trauma and Shattering Impact for mash E build. The Incarnon mode gives it 100 base dage so it seemed like Primes Pressure Point was redundant. Shattering Impact reduces base armor on everything in 7 meters extremely fast because of Gladiator Rush giving attack speed and the one stance having multi hits. Primed Heavy Trauma gives more Impact damage and overtakes the Viral so more bleeds. If i never picked up the incarnons for Latron, Paris, and Lato I would be very impressed with Bo. But after those weapons, Bo Incarnon is just not as inspiring. It is still a big stick i am spamming light attacks with. I saw Gaz's video on Furax and I am glad I didnt pick that...

[@anthonylanman46]

Reach, blood rush, weeping, Co, primed fury, vice, organ shat, gladiator might. Steel is optional but I have it on. Use to block to build combo count, takes 2 seconds

[@Questworldorder]

I’m using furax on atlas with with condition overload and 3 60/60 and also on Barruuk it’s not game breaking but it’s much better than what you showed on with the Bo

[@jamesn0va]

Your using atlas?😮

[@Questworldorder]

@@jamesn0va i main him 😂😂😂 lol no but using him with his passive with no stagger effect and his 1 works, I also like to go not meta while playing

[@TFALink]

The only melee incarnon worth it is the Praedos?

[@zegreatpablo7346]

Praying they buff the bad ones soon, because I literally only got the furax one because I like that 50% fire rate for secondaries mod lol

[@jayleno2192]

Seems like a combo build with Weeping Wounds would be the way to go (and a macro to spam E for you of course). Only having a 40% chance to convert impact to slash isn't great though.

[@kenshi4296]

why would you go for a heavy attack build, If you dont always proq bleeds. That's a odd choice

[@777bruizy]

With the range and slash it might be a great sudou exalted option for Khora or excalibur. Do incarnon's pass to exalted?

[@anguishedcarpet]

*pseudo

[@noahedenborg4221]

I dont know but mabye some things do

[@ip1335]

I went with the furax since I already have a stat stick setup. What used to be a stat stick can now one shot sp demolishers with primers and roar.

[@thomasstewart1380]

Why was the Skana Incarnon disappointing? I've been using it as Zephyr on the Steel Path and just using her 2 to clump large groups up and killing them in just a swing or 2 after priming. Going for a crit build makes 100% consistent on red crits.

[@copsychuszviharasoon1368]

because skana incarnon isn't wow at all, there are better weapons out there.

[@thomasstewart1380]

@Copsychusz Viharasoon Just because there are better doesn't mean it isn't really good.

[@Econ1991]

I made the same mistake but also got the Latrum so I'm OK Just gotta remind myself, only get melee incarnon if it's for the glaive.

[@stickosapien]

I think it still could be an effective choice with voruna. I normally use the praedos with my voruna build but this actually looks like a really good alternative melee for her

[@AziSlays]

yeah but so is literally any other melee, so ya not really selling it

[@stickosapien]

@@AziSlays true, but I just mean the increased combo gain plus heavy attack efficiency synergizes well with voruna more than other melees, but yeah I do get that voruna can make any melee really good.

[@ZeroZillions]

Do you know if incaron effect the stat sticks to make them broken?

[@FreeMovies01]

Only skana is doing that so far

[@kylzepolaczkowaty2197]

Or you could bind meele to scroll With circuit runs where i get all these attack speed buffs I be zoomin

[@alexanderbabski3241]

I picked the Bo to see what an incarnon melee was like

[@JayDee-vq5rf]

Might as well add the furax and the skana to the list. All the melee incarnon are pretty bad. If your never going to hit with a melee there might be some good melee for run speed stat stick or other tools. Brozime do you think bonus range on melee would be good as a primer if they made the range like 80 meters? Or like 2000% status chance?

[@ShadowMajick]

Not going to lie, I feel bad for you missing out on the Latron for this. Incarnon Latron is a damn railgun!

[@Darthmufin]

You think the guns are gonna get nerfed? They are stronger than the kuva tonkor and the tonkor is the best overall explosive weapon due to reasonable ammo economy and only slightly less damage than the bramma.

[@inoob26]

imagine not making the pinnacle version of a BO series not make you fly like a helicopter across the map

[@SaiKisaragi]

ok got it, no more melee incarnons. Only straight bangers from here

[@blazonglover8192]

Why is follow through even a thing in this game?

[@ElDocBruh]

Even the Zariman incarnon melees were disappointing to me. So I went both weeks for all the ranged weapons. Melee in general feels all the same to me, it's why I only use glaives and gunblades.

[@adonai56]

Not gonna lie. This one bummed me out. Really was hoping to fill my inner warframe jedi

[@permeus2nd]

6:52 poor Brozime (and anyone that like me thought this may have been good, at least I haven’t picked this weeks yet so I can thank him for saving me)

[@criomede9536]

Me who just chose Bo Incarnon Genesis 5 min before I saw this notif: 👁👄👁

[@jnhln5796]

I picked lato and skana incarnon first week. I don't play melee so I didn't know if i did it wrong (I'm using some general melee build) or if the weapon wasn't very good. Wasn't really sold on Lato either. Strun this week has been great though!

[@Aodhan2717]

I prefer playing melee; even if it’s not as powerful as it was a while back, I just like swinging a blade or stick, it’s fun. Seeing how disappointing melee incarnons are is reeeeally sapping my motivation to work towards SP Duviri. The incarnon guns may be amazing, but I was really looking forward to some cool new melee mechanics. Oh well.

[@SoulbreakerNB]

Do we get mastery from duviri incarnon weapons?

[@noahedenborg4221]

No

[@yourdemiseishere]

Does incarnon bonuses work with stat sticks, atlas with bleed damage on nearly every punch would be insane.

[@noahedenborg4221]

From what I heard not that one I will test tho to make sure

[@FreeMovies01]

Skana gives atlas consistent orange crits

[@yourdemiseishere]

@@FreeMovies01 I just tested with the bo and it got zero bonuses from it unless the skana has a buff, the only thing it gets is some crit that doesnt apply, your cat probably gave you consistent crits.

[@FreeMovies01]

@@yourdemiseishere skana final evolution gives a base crit chance buff and it also applies to pseudo exalts

[@yourdemiseishere]

@@FreeMovies01 Flat 25%? How is that orange crits.

[@TH3R34LM]

The melee incarnons really needd to offer more. So far they've been pretty lackluster. If it keeps going like this, the only weapons that'll be good are the ones that were already good, like orthos prime, reaper prime or galantine prime

[@jsnunya]

I would have been hype af if the incarnon bo just restored the nutty ragdolling the bo had when I first started.

[@snakeman830]

I've decided after the disappointments of the Skana and Furax incarnons, I just won't touch any melee incarnon adaptors until Hate. That one, at least, is a usable weapon without incarnon, so it would at least see use.

[@bradleymallard6347]

From what I have used it's really a light attack weapon with blood rush and weeping wounds. In that it has replaced my guando prime. Is it a glaive no a strun no but if you like combo builds it's hard to beat

[@BoochieKatt]

I made a mistake picking both melees

[@MoneyShot127]

I was excited to try this out until I put the incarnon adapter on and started leveling it. . . And then I became sad.

[@brightfox5040]

Man, I’m glad I picked the strun but sucks I picked the Bo, I was expecting so much..

[@Dac85]

I feel like this is the case for the melee weapons in general in the incarnon system. They just are not interesting at all.

[@ynglink]

Agreed. Their incarnon versions should do something similar to shooting fireballs with the Nepheri. It doesn't need to be a massive OP effect, but something cool rather than it just being a "slightly better" version

[@Gorecatto]

It feels like they are scared of actually doing something with melees , meanwhile primaries and secondaries get huge buffs when incarnon

[@Hanayama-san]

not surprising at all i would not waste an Incarnon Adaptor on a melee weapon anyway

[@janablom823]

Latron was the correct choice

[@darKHeartNine]

Furis incarnon vid next? it's a Klamora Prism but for secondary

[@Banana_Boy169]

Perfect. I didnt pick strun and did pick Bo genesis incarnons

[@British-Anarchy]

Amitabha Prime now has become the Amitabha Prime Incarnon!

[@MasterAarott]

Furax Wraith at least has built in combo, so you can save yourself a mod slot on that heavy attack build. Also, big fat Falcon Punches.

[@xiusa2015]

Guess what I picked over Strun before either video came out...

[@reagenlionel]

And follow through isn't a state we can mod either. Which is strange given punch through for guns is essentially the same thing.

[@noahedenborg4221]

Well not actually

[@CrashSable]

What more could I want? Stealth based bonuses as it is supposed to be Loki's weapon...

[@seihoukeh]

let my nephew choose one for me so i ended up with the Furax, didn't try heavy build yet but regular build does clear steel path. Unless i'm missing something it fully relies on the neutral combo of Seismic Palm with a 300%multi and guarantied impact on the first hit though the last hit opens ground finishers constantly and does very low damage if it doesn't get the imp-slash proc. gimmick is a joke. not sure if it was much better or worse than Bo not sure if i used the best evolutions, i barely remember anything about it besides that it does 'work' in steel path, though the braton inc i got fully built around the same time is probably to blame for that i need to try it a bit more but is definitely heavily flawed and mediocre at best

[@seihoukeh]

Heavy build seems fun, wraith(?) has extra 20 base combo so that nice, weirdly struggles real bad with eximus, one/two-shots other regular sp enemies. Also not sure why but when i tried it today the damage felt fine? kps is low but it kills the enemies it hits, not sure if range or skill issue. The slide attack "increase crit damage to 5x" evo just seems unusable on fists, also unsure if adds to base/total or just increases to 5x if

[@tylerprime6741]

The skana incarnon is absolutely insane. The tier 4 perk adds the 12% cc and sc base amounts to stat sticks. Khora whipclaw gets an extra base cc and sc letting her red crit withnease without a riven. It also adds the base damage from tne t2 perk

[@baalfrog]

So it is insane as a thing to not ever swing, that is different from it being a good weapon to use.

[@tylerprime6741]

@@baalfrog nobody every swings the amphis but as a stat stick it's insane. Skana fills the same purpose but better, of course I'd prefer if it was better as an actual weapon but you have to take in to account everything it's capable of

[@copsychuszviharasoon1368]

@@tylerprime6741 I agree with him , if u get melee but u didn't use melee for attacking but use it for something else like stats stick , i don't think that determined this melee is insane. It just that there are no other benefits beside become stats stick.

[@warflex8895]

Dont know but i think its not the weapon but your build I really like your vids but some points of the build are not like I would do things My incarnon bo tears them enemys in pieces and one heavy is more then enough for the exact same heavy gunners And the Combo builds Slash procs even killed them unmodded Sure there could be more but dont expect Slash procs if your status Chance is that low? Dont know the problem people have with weeping wounds but I think viral melee is simply unnecessairy if some of your guns do way more procs than the melee anyway. Sure put viral on any weapon that could do just one single Slash proc but you always have 3 of them with you... No I didnt primer the enemys in my Bo test but it performed more than twice as good as what I just saw

[@jakeharrison207]

Fun fact: Voruna’s best in slot. Her 1 gives so much damage the most important things are base damage and range. Having a 7.5m range is psychotic and she can clear rooms with it

[@deathdude42]

I've been using it to relive the old spin attack days, not as effective as it used to be pre melee changes but it's still fun to slide around spinning to winning.

[@FreeMovies01]

She makes all melee force slash

[@NongIng]

Incarnons eventually rotate back right?

[@noahedenborg4221]

Yes 6 weeks

[@RPG_Bro]

Picked the Bo just for Voruna to have a really long melee to spread status, guess that was a mistake...

[@itsMagicalpasta]

At least I picked the strun for tier 5, I’ll just save the resources for the Bo

[@ThePopeOfAwesomeness]

Shame. Wish we had an incarnon MIGHTY SEER

[@Sublimeoo]

yea i got the skana week 1, pretty meh. i find all incarnon melee underwhelming tbh. its very unclear how long the buff lasts when you switch to incarnon mode ... there's no easy way to tell as far as i can tell

[@exk4]

I've avoided melee incarnons thus far because they're intrinsically less interesting. Grabbed the Latron this week which I am extremely happy with.

[@zavos5659]

Latron is mostly a fun (that also clears steel path) kind of weapon. It takes something extra to reach Strun Wraith's power, a warframe that can group enemies so Latron's shots can chain through an entire crowd.

[@35reich]

nerf is 100% coming. rivendispo nerf or incarnon nerf

[@mokutomedia1253]

I kinda feel the same way with the Paris prime.

[@Vesperon]

I like my long stick. But, I wish it was a bit more consistant.

[@TheOneGalactic]

As an Incarnon Furax Wraith owner, I was disappointed by it. Yes, the weapon improves and it is objectively better than before. However, Furax is even worse with its ability to proc slash. I have tried. If you want good mitts to get good hits, just do Tekko Prime. Has a neat heat gimmick, but it is only cool to look at. Enemies are pushed away from the area of effect. Best I can say about Incarnon Furax is that it DOES look cool.

[@krownos7037]

I don't see how this is disappointing. I spend a lot of time build crafting and I can see so many ways to make this very good. I wish I chose that one now, damn.

[@sarlight9626]

4 range felt very promising

[@AziSlays]

I feel like the combo build with Shattering Impact has to at least be decent for a sort of cheap "AOE" armor stripping that doesn't take an ability slot since it doesn't care how much damage you deal and more just that you hit things at all.

[@noahedenborg4221]

Try but shattering impact does work best with multi hit or vastilok cus 9 pellets

[@AziSlays]

@@noahedenborg4221 no shit. However, Vastilok is single target. this is very much so not.

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@AziSlays it may be single target but it strips so much faster

[@AziSlays]

@@noahedenborg4221 who asked? This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about

[@uh-ooooh]

I hella lucked out choosing strun and latron before everyone started posting how OP they were and I am so happy that I chose them. But man, that really is a shame that with the investment it takes to make an incarnon, some of them will just end up being ok rather than great. At least with the melee genesis incarnons so far

[@Dullerrope31]

I wish I liked heavy attack builds more, it may just be that I'm on console and mashing the heavy attack button hurts my thumbs - so while I'll try out build alternatives I am sad that this may be one of the more optimal builds.

[@tylermcelveen1479]

I chose Bo for a reason. I've always loved Bo Prime, despite not using it much. One of my favorite melee weapons.

[@Branderbie]

I thought it was pretty good, did all 5 steel path dailies just using it and was just flying thru the enemies easily as top damage. I was using a viral/heat set up for what its worth. Might not be a top 5 or 10 weapon, but easily clears all the content.

[@raijinmeister]

We should have the option to hold E and keep attacking. At this point, melee is more of a chore than fun.

[@caryroberts6748]

Would love an incarnon dark dagger genesis.

[@pointblank_543.]

I wanted to balance what I picked so I picked two melee bc I grabbed a primary and secondary and was gonna go.. primary secondary melee melee secondary primary. Idky it just seems fair and to keep my interest more...but awesome

[@InsertSomethingStupid2002]

Always save the incarnon melees for last. The zariman melee were pretty underwhelming compared to the guns. I knew the adapter weapons weren't gonna be any better

[@Panjax]

Unfortunately it's a bit late lol most people have picked at the start of the week.

[@ynglink]

As some of the melee's may still be worth it until we see them all, i'll just put them as the Rank 10 reward

[@HaveYouTriedGuillotines]

Follow through was a mistake. It makes at least half the melee weapons in the game low tier.