⚠️DO NOT PULL SHARDS TODAY⚠️ Plus CLAN SIEGE INFO!!! | Raid: Shadow Legends

[@warshark2234]

My issue with this as a clan leader -- i do not have hours every week to coordinate with my clan and set defenses for everyone, etc. Between this, Hydra, DT, Sintranos, this game is becoming a time sink like a second job. I think this has the potential to run more players off if they do not reduce the time required in other areas.

[@francoisdauzon3107]

Yeah. I already feel burned out harassing people to get on Hydra and tracking participation/performance there. More PvP stuff, that looks really involved... I don't know how that's going to go. I don't know if I'll be able (want) to manage it... I don't love PvP in p2w gacha's in the first place, and I'm definitely not the only person in my clan that isn't really involved in live arena, etc. If you have a super active endgame clan where multiple people are willing to take responsibility for stuff on their own, it's not an issue. But for anything where member participation isn't there... I don't know. Will see how it goes, I guess. I'm not optimistic, but maybe that's just my intrinsic dislike of change.

[@speachless88]

The City, now with saved teams from pervious runs, is just a few clicks, which is nice. Hydra definitely us a huge time push, but I only use Auto teams now which helps. I watch a movie and start, 2 hours later check and accept. DT auto runs.

[@charleswable3339]

do what all good leaders do...delegate lol

[@robertpease9834]

Just running a hydra battle can take me 2 hours

[@sunnydlite-t8b]

" I think this has the potential to run more players off..." surely some internet person has more data than the actual business trying to profit off of this. Why do so many neckbeards not understand that everything they do is based off WHAT THE DATA SHOWS. Its all algorithms now. They arent taking shots at rolling the dice. They run off concrete evidence of what engages players.

[@RandomNY1234]

IT took less time for the allies to sort out the invasion of Normandy..

[@ibuprofen_]

As a clan leader this is going to be a pain in the ass to manage. And as you pointed out, the delta between winning and loosing clans will be massive in no time

[@FreeFire-lx7kd]

Dude some clans don't even care about cvc, it focuses in hydra, you can choose whether your clan wanna participate or not

[@paulx7620]

Just screams to much time FATIGUE! Gear swap nightmare

[@Koiworks84]

Already pulled my sacreds... good to know I could have waited

[@Thugzilla90]

Good to know that you're learning something.

[@Novazite115]

Greed has its drawbacks lol

[@darkbeach72]

Plarium has fucked me over with this bullshit for the last several fusions. I finally wised up. Don't pull unless there's something good going on.

[@A-A-RON918]

Pulled 4 of mine before I thought to look at KZbin. A ton of people did. Just cause these haters thought of it first, don’t feel bad. Put the hate on Plarium not each other. I got my first tomb lord so that’s cool I guess.

[@elfishmoss1457]

did you even get a lego tho, if not 15x does nothing really

[@Kensdisguise]

"I'm here for this", 23:00 says the guy who plays RAID for a living. I for one don't have the time, nor the desire to have the time, to give more of my day to these guys. Let's see how wide the gap widens between the haves and have nots, again!

[@Olaru-Florin]

Already pulled my shards lol, though no worry, I didn't get any legos

[@Thugzilla90]

To get the most progression of the game all you need are the best epics....

[@nicpage4075]

Lucky I pulled all 12 and got goffred in the last one lol

[@A-A-RON918]

I pulled 4 before I got tomb lord and stopped. I’ll wait until tomorrow for the rest I guess.

[@nicpage4075]

@@A-A-RON918 Tomb Lord is a nice solo champion

[@charlesklein6399]

Pulled 5 sacreds and got bupkiss, although I did get dupe Geo and Deacon for empowerment, so that was “ok”

[@jeromegodboutamotus6863]

Wait Shadow Legends! Always wait, just wait, Plarium always hope you rush in! Wait to the last minute for everything in this game... This is a bit annoying, but this is how Wait Shadow Legends is played.

[@Thugzilla90]

Yeah, it always gets old. I'm glad I broke from the game months ago. Ever since I've been playing Watcher Of Realms. It's actually sick and wild. A lot less waiting too thankfully.

[@SengiG]

@@Thugzilla90 been there tried that, WoR is flashy and interesting untill you hit the ceiling which comes pretty fast, after that there is nothing to do, you feel like standing in wasteland

[@ashleypearce11]

I feel this is going to be a massive time sink on top of all the other stuff

[@larppa116]

Tbh this almoust makes me wanna quit clan or join clan who dont do these kind of things...

[@Thugzilla90]

Or you can just quit Raid while you're ahead. I did, now I'm playing Watcher Of Realms, and loving life.

[@larppa116]

@@Thugzilla90 Why do i have to quit this game for some stupid content?

[@Thugzilla90]

@@larppa116 First off I'm not sure how it's stupid, but do you even hear yourself? Look at yourself. You're on KZbin comments complaining about a game, complaining that you want to leave a clan and quit. Do you not see the insanity? You're punishing yourself for no reason.

[@slyfondle1885]

@@Thugzilla90 Look at yourself. You're on KZbin watching videos and responding to comments about a game you say you've quit. Do you not see the insanity?

[@klz7618]

@@slyfondle1885 exactly. he is watching videos on something he has quit. like a stalker watching his Ex xD

[@kevinj33]

Kinda surprised to see so many comments about people having pulled their sacreds like they didnt expect this. The last time Raid had a weekend without summoning events COVID didn't exist yet.

[@Cecil_578]

I am a F2P player, granted I've played for years so still have some decent stuff.. But I cant compete in Platinum, I dont like pushing in tag Arena past silver 2, I try to avoid Live arena (but those darn bonuses...*sigh*) ... This is just another pvp hell where P2W will rule supreme. Especially as there is a penalty to the loses, in the terms of having to repair buildings.. Surely the loss of not gaining resourses vs a team that beat you ought to be enough ? ... As a F2P player, I am also in a relatively small Clan, we battle in Tier I or II of CvC atm, and win maybe 1 in 3 or so, maybe 2/5... Its going to be hard for us to have enough ppl participate in this, and if they do - arguably questionable pvp teams, as we arent hardcore players either.. I personally thing this mode looks awesome, but will be hell for f2p vs p2w. Oh and yes, poor Clan leaders - in the clans that actually talk, we have a few lines in our chat each week. Which I emagine a fair amount of clans has, so there will be 0 coordinating, and it'll be first come first serve - for better or worse. Time will tell, but I do not have high hopes for Seige.. Despite the fact that it does indeed look awesome.

[@alschirjaev9213]

overly complicated, tons of different currencies. time consuming AF with zero time saving QOL features included in the patch. oh ya its pure plarium. and you think this looks fun? youre excited to play this mode?

[@stan4654]

so you wanted the clan wars that take zero time? Like just coin flip who wins?

[@thesurrealist3389]

No way this is not going to be heavily pay to win oriented, and only the clan that wins will get a chance of getting the new leggo shards/fragments. Just a wild guess.

[@Novazite115]

A whole bunch of fancy words for what’s gonna end up being a 4v4 battle like all other arenas

[@andrewheitz2328]

This looks too complicated for my liking. They better add some qol to give players time to be able to participate in this. Need more than just super raids to get back the time

[@megamonkeyo1357]

"Well fuck me...I guess..." LOL- Love you Nub!

[@Mollywobbles08]

I was busy with live arena so didn't pull shards yet. Thanks for the heads up. I'm glad I'm not a clan leader. I'm hoping that the big brains guys in the clan point me in the right direction...plus can't wait to see your vids on it!

[@ocuevas]

This seems like a separate game altogether. RAID was already a full time job, now with siege its going to be like working two jobs.

[@JohnGangi]

None of this matters without reward info lol

[@Thugzilla90]

Thankfully you recognize not to foil under the hype. I love how everybody likes to overhype this stuff coming up, without even putting into the thought of requirements or even the practice itself.

[@skelton4795]

@@Thugzilla90 have to disagree, i would say its the opposite, most ppl tend to be overly negative about things added to the game without looking at it, thinking oh its just whale stuff.

[@Thugzilla90]

@@skelton4795 It just depends differently on the player to be honest. There is a large chunk of them that overhyped themselves, just to fall under disappointment. And then there are those who have played a lot longer who become skeptical for fair reasons.

[@BonePlaysRaid]

Have pulled my ancients today (2 leggys within my 150 nice one for my video), fortunately no Voids or Sacreds. But would have loved the chance of an increased chance for Duchess. The timing really sucks...

[@sozulonsoz3716]

This was the chance to make those champs with extra effects against certain factions shine but they wasted it

[@Thugzilla90]

Plarium always wastes their load. And this player base, a lot of these players in the community keep spreading their cheeks wide open for Plarium to stick it into them. Wake up and come join me and play some Watcher of Realms. Your wallet will thank you later.

[@Cheese-It117]

"Communicate with your clan is key to victory... our communication system is pure garbage so you must use external methods." Good game design. Also if you are a clan leader and not a CC how do you have time for this? Game is already a full time job.

[@MrAndy71717]

I got Firrol so....Im not complaining. Pulled 100 ancients and 3 sacreds. No legendaries from the Sacreds and Firrol was my one legenary and was one of my most wanted. I will select Duchess for my remaining 50.

[@frkshw_edc9887]

Calm down Nubs! Its just another pay to win PvP dumpster fire...Garbage update

[@jimbolimbo3385]

Already pulled my shards and got a dupe Kaja 😂 if I tried for that on 15x it would have never happened

[@sabotage151]

'CASH SHAY' Yuck! You mean, CASH, cache. CASH SHAY, Wrong!

[@andrewgrow5711]

so they couldn't have told us this yesterday? why exactly? bullshit

[@molodezhnaja]

I did pull early and got my third Pixniel. Oh well. I'm only mildly annoyed because with the exception of Elwa, I got the important ones from the x25. But still it's a bit dodgy from Plarium to announce this a couple of hours late.

[@gentjan1983]

Already pulled my sacreds... F Plarium!

[@hydrokizza77]

Thankfully I pulled my first duchess today after opening 2 sacred shards otherwise would of been annoyed seeing the 15x for her

[@tgbelmas]

good point on the walls. they should only be able to get in after breaking through

[@robertpease9834]

It seems to celebrate really strong clans. A bunch of friends might have a problem trying to maintain this, and have a viable clan going forward.

[@jeggred8611]

So will the defense battles be live or only the attack?

[@WaiTu077]

I just saw MTGJedi's video where he said there is a progressive so don't pull but he could not show the champs involved because of an embargo. Then I saw yours. Glad I didn't pull.

[@jessewilliams1422]

Hold...... HOLD......HOOOLLLDDD

[@mrwhatevertf1836]

Siege looks too complicated and bloated with bonuses, effects etc. Gonna take up lots of time and thought, which is not what Raid needs. Bad content imo, rare miss by Plarium Edit: i like the game and don't want to play something else. The recent content has been great, other than this

[@gkar9757]

Turn into minesweeper my friend then.

[@mrwhatevertf1836]

and why would they tease those scrolls when they just turned out to be another battle currency...

[@42stek]

@@mrwhatevertf1836just because you can’t do it doesn’t make it bad content

[@bobbyhill2951]

Don’t play it

[@travismaclennan5251]

I'll actually agree with you on that this more bloated content if they don't institute background dungeons/clan boss.

[@brianjohns7230]

CRAP! Pulled already, got a Lord Champfort. Non dupe and not at mercy for a change.

[@hal2735]

Well done Plarium, you fucking got me

[@charleswable3339]

trump proved walls dont work lmao!!!

[@Turtleshellon]

Changed my mind.. I’m going after the guarantee champ to chase duchess. Probably exactly why they are doing it too. Numbers are too low so they have to boost them and boost they did!

[@justjosh11]

Excuse my language but this fucks me off so much. Literally they release the fusion event and I'm pretty sure this announcement came out after the summon event was already live for a while. I pulled my 6 sacreds + a few other shards to get the fusion fragments and got a dupe gurpuk, fine not that great. But it's more the principle that they do this with next to no transparency. Constant FOMO and second guessing if it's ever worth pulling shards, pulling souls etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they throw in a better souls event after draining everyone of souls

[@SSuser-go7jm]

Sad there aren’t any good epics, but I’m probably gonna go for Duchess + Sepulcher.

[@Thugzilla90]

I'd recommend Mausoleum Mage over Sepulcher if you need a debuff cleanser. Duchess is queen, but she's no cleanser.

[@SSuser-go7jm]

@@Thugzilla90 I already have a +2 Mausoleum, so I don’t really need any more of him.

[@Thugzilla90]

@@SSuser-go7jm You don't want to make him +4? You don't want the extra speed? Ouch...

[@reinardflores6337]

My goodness, I might go all in for Duchess..

[@steveg9445]

As always… I came here after pulling my sacred’s… pulled 6, got 2 legos, first was Altan, which is disappointing… but 2nd was Teodor… so I’m cool with that, plus, I already have 2 Duchess’s

[@MrTeaTwoSugars]

Already pulled, got no leggos anyway

[@Turtleshellon]

Winning and losing only dictates how challenging future events will be for you clan. Winning puts you against more powerful teams. Losing puts you against less powerful teams. It’s not a thing where you will fall behind and can’t beat anybody because they are too far ahead.

[@Marvymarvmartian]

So excited that I waited. Almost screwed myself over.

[@brianmyers5694]

This looks very extensive and gonna take a long time to setup. I’m definitely intrigued but not everyone is gonna be down with this. I always wait till the second day to pull shards on summon rush because I’ve seen to many CCs pull and miss the events lol.

[@jonasfilemonsen9017]

Pulled mine, and im glad it comes up after i pulled. The progressive is a scam and i always fell for it. Now i wont since im done with the SR :D

[@charleswable3339]

clan siege looks fun

[@sinansakic85]

I dont't like this. I play all 30 accounts in my clan, I have 4 main accounts and the other 26 are just resources for winning CvC. This new mode seems way too complicated and assumes that all accounts in a clan are real players not just alts :(

[@MegaUnchangable]

So frustrating to pull shards this morning then to find out about this…..

[@adventaursadventure7785]

I pulled sacreds 4 shards. Wanted to pull all 6 but something was telling me to not pull the other 2 yet. Then, this video comes out

[@hydrahailer9462]

I'm super excited for this Siege release

[@Thugzilla90]

Why?

[@nomadicgamer9466]

Thank you for the heads up on pulling shards. Thankfully, I didn't pull any yet. I'll wait until tomorrow. Not that I'll get anything but still.

[@raywilliams1441]

RSL now meets VWOC meets PTOF - the latter is pretty much dead, VWOC is going that way. Question:- what is the ultimate penalty for completely ignoring this ???

[@michaelragnarsson3476]

Jokes on Raid, I pulled 6 Sacred shards already and got THREE leggos in a row! 😂Including FINALLY getting my first Trunda! So I don't even care about the progressive chance!

[@danielholmes2783]

Wtf!!!!! Goddammit plarium SMH so sick of them pulling this crap.....guess I should have held onto my sacreds until tomorrow

[@vincenttrujillo3586]

Yep, to late! Not your fault. At first I thought; your giving advice now!? Shady stuff at Pay-larum! Summon Rush is done. So now I will skip this progressive. Thanks a lot Raid!

[@plebs9472]

Already pulled my shards on Friday... Well thank you Plarium. Not excited abut this tower wars. Game take to much time to complete other parts of it as it is, then imagine some whale clans with all those mitical, Taros champions literally DECIMATING losers F2P clans like my one. Yea this will really make me want to play this mode :(

[@bmcwxyz]

Siege looks like an absolute hot mess. Nobody asked for all these bonuses and all this bullshit. Just make it have compelling GAMEPLAY. Players can only use champs during a siege until they die once, option to have imbalanced fights where clans must decide to over or undercommit champs to defending key points. Not more cursed city bullshit where people can only use 3 champs out of 500 on their roster.

[@johnnierichardson3289]

What a TERRIBLE company. I have already told multiple people to NEVER play this game because of shit like this! Can't wait for HH game.

[@richt4297]

I personally find the boosted events great. On 10 sacreds I pulled my first Gnut which was just awesome (also pulled a 2nd Lyssandra & my first fat man) Best CC raid has, keep up the good work, love your content & attitude.

[@glamdring27]

I think I'll just wait until this is actually in the game to see how it all actually works (albeit still watching vids on it). As someone who basically fell into clan leadership by default after our last leader(s) stopped I don't especially want some big headache of a coordination job. The in-game communication is not something I seem to see many people talking about amongst the things that need improving. Arguably it is even worse than the market - it's sh*t beyond words, in every way the most basic it could be. I guess content creators are all in big clans who have everyone ordered to be in Discords or they're kicked, but for most regular clans, getting more than a handful of clan members to join a Discord is pretty much impossible, so communication will be almost non-existent...and if there is any, Plarium will suddenly drop a game update and clear in-game chat 😂

[@Lord_Mangoat]

For shards, I might just focus on trying to get Nekhret. Don't have him. Already have Siphi. I feel like I'm one of the few with zero interest in this clan siege mode. I'll likely "forget" to bother with that mode every week. That said, it bothers me so much that the person in the video failed to pronounce 'cache' properly. I'm actually hoping that certain ranked clan members are in charge of placing defenses as well as attacking. Give them access to the entire clan roster of champs as they are, so they can't rebuild or anything, but can use them in any defense or attack they want. If this is how it is done, that is a massive burden off my shoulders, because I have zero interest and I know my clan will likely make some dumb rule about forcing involvement or be kicked.

[@levelupjeff]

We know it is a long term mode - the new "free" void leggo is at the end of the reward track for Siege.

[@Thugzilla90]

Yeah, and she's mainly just going to be for Hydra and live arena primarily by most players and CC's.

[@julienhecq7646]

pulled all my acients and pulled a 3rd lanakis on my account, guess I'll just go ____ myself for tomorrows progressive. 2nd time in 3 months, Thanks RAID !

[@darkhelmet4245]

Why does it have to be so complicated with dozens of small and large conditions?

[@reggitwend7405]

Ya absolutely positively not interested in this. I hate pvp but am forced to do singles arena and three vs three, still not able to get into silver 3. I've never enjoyed pvp, in any game I've ever played. It's difficult enough to get people to do anything for hydra, like 28 people 18 keys total. Plarium, you are so frustrating.

[@noahmaddox7182]

This game is becoming a full time committment.

[@aaronwalcott513]

Career Shadow Legends!

[@MillerKing51]

As always plarium looking to Fuq over the players. Here's the event go ahead and pull your shard... oh you pulled them great... Surprise summon event and here's some shard packs ypu can buy to win those champs that will never drop.

[@SushiParty]

I can see this new mode being ignored after a couple rotations because it's just too much work for too little reward. Basically like Cursed City when it first came out and all the CCs were all hyped up like little kids and now it's just whatever and annoying because of the gear reworking to progress. I'm already turned off by this mode and I can see myself forcing myself to do it for my clan rather than for any real enjoyment. It's geared towards whales so the more whales in your clan, the better you'll do. The rest will just be cannon fodder for the whale clans to beat up. Like Nubs said, the winner gets to upgrade their stuff while the losers are just stuck repairing and not progressing which makes the gap ever wider. Why doesn't your fortress and stuff be reset after a Siege rotation? What meager rewards you get for losing while all be wasted just to repair your stuff until you get matched against another whale clan.

[@deeman-zw7pp]

Rip f2p clan 😔

[@garagatza]

Stupid system, sorry, as a multi time-zone clan, this is not going to work. I inherited my clan leadership from someone who left the game, and I assumed it as the people are chill and we win enough in CvC and HC, but that doesn't need much coordination. I have no time to give for this... and was never a strategy game player - and my issue here is that I and am sure this will affect the clan in unseen ways.

[@dweb6832]

Since it was a holiday, I didn't Discord yesterday, so didn't see your warning. Of course I pulled 150 ancients yesterday!!

[@darkbeach72]

WILDLY overcomplicated. Just fucking insane.

[@martindavenport2318]

Damn, too late, pulled mine for Summon Rush. Pretty annoying. Their communication is pretty lacking.

[@scottlong2382]

This should be a game on its own. Way too much. Clans will be destroyed due to now they are a combination of casual and serious players. Once this starts, Serious players will drive out the casual player or player that can't send even more time. I can see looking for a clan that specifically says Siege won't be used.

[@peachesrambo4037]

Only if you drop a lot of money on shards will you have a chance. I know people calls me a liar, but i did pull over 230 ancient shards before getting a lego.

[@rhettmeyers474]

Hopefully this comes alongside a change to hydra that significantly reduces the time sink in game. Personally I’m stoked for clan siege, but I can tell most others are not up for some additional time in game every week.

[@maciekwar]

This is baaad it requires coordination and planning in the game that does not even have personal messages... not everyone uses Discord. It's not for the majority of players and it's too complicated

[@moose9377]

I already don't have time to pursue this game fully, and now there's more shit that will be required by clans and probably on a very inconvenient timer for everyone in a different time zone or who has a job.

[@Edgunsuk]

I may start playing that grasping for content bollocks when hydra stops taking three hours to complete .....

[@michelleeditor]

Boycott Clan Fortress! PVP sucks now this SUPER complex BS is another time suck

[@charlesklein6399]

Yup, pulled mine already 😑 Didn’t get anything anyway, so cool, thanks Plarium?

[@chasepeterson1696]

I will have to play it... seems like way too much coordination for my clan. hopefully it ends being easier and more intuitive than it sounds

[@bods6776]

Every time they do a Champion Chase or a Summon Event it always starts the day before some sort of progressive event. They've done it so often, at this point if you pull your shards on the first day, that's on you.

[@turbozzz4376]

where is this information being pulled from....ive been searching for it and can't find it. the shard pulls that is.

[@Sledgehuk]

Ah siege fuck up ... yawn paywall for the krakens ... instant ignore too timely

[@jarradtaylor2272]

I pulled mine already, but I don’t care about the 15x champs they are offering.

[@mattingray5651]

Clan Siege seems to be too complicated. A little of strategy is good, but this is way overloaded, having a headache already.

[@RogueBear88]

this has the potential to be really cool but im worried Plarium is going to ruin it with poor matchmaking. as we havent really seen anything about rewards im also concerned that incentives to participate wont be there. its going to rely on both good participation and clan member participation

[@jonathangortz8104]

Well if this didn't make it obvious that this new fuzion is going to be a beast I just don't know what is.... placing him in a defence with his dogs is an annoying team to get past.

[@yusuf1506]

I didnt pull my ancient shards :D I was thinking for gurantee worth or not, i think worth with duchess :D

[@FreeFire-lx7kd]

People always complain about everything, some people hate hydra but that doesn't mean we don't like it

[@Cosmo-zb1pz]

yet again another cash cow for plarium. not enough mana buy this pack not enough florins buy this pack on and on always the same

[@Worldowner]

oh, tnx, i'll keep them. I already done around fifty, but still have more than hundred.

[@KaiserSosa137]

I checked the HH gaming site and there are no HP or Def-based bomb champions. It must be a typo in the game, or they plan to release HP/Def bomb champions unless I'm misreading it.

[@garagatza]

weird, as bombs scale with ATK... right?

[@johnwdunawayjr901]

One common demonspwan

[@Ogoun-grandson]

from what im starting to understand, wait until the last day of summon rush or the last day of a special shard event in case stuff like this pops off