Do Roman dog breeds still exist?

[@panqueque445]

Gotta love how small dogs were treated exactly the same back then as today. Small, spoiled, carried inside bags.

[@MrShanester117]

He never said they were carried in bags

[@panqueque445]

@@MrShanester117 Watch the video again but with the sound on.

[@robertafierro5592]

My little Dachshund rides inside a bright red tote bag It's just so cute to see her

[@trilobiteterror8015]

Ancient Greek and Roman Epitaphs to dogs can be incredibly touching. One that always comes to mind is: "Thou who passest on this path, If haply thou dost mark this monument, Laugh not, I pray thee, though it is a dog's grave. Tears fell for me, and the dust was heaped above me By a master's hand."

[@josephmichael214]

Drew a tear from me dammit

[@jungefrau]

💔💔😭😭😭💔💔

[@richardkluesek4301]

Remembered dearest old friends.

[@TesterAnimal1]

Anybody who has buried a dog will understand. 🐶😪

[@theroadhomefromwrestling1788]

I wish I knew what breed Argo was. The most loyal dog ever.

[@VanderlyndenJengold]

Argos? Odysseus' dog? Haven't watched the video yet.

[@theroadhomefromwrestling1788]

@@VanderlyndenJengold I’m not even sure if there is a video about Argo. I just wish for a dog as loyal as him. I would treat the little guy way better than jerk face Odysseus.

[@decem_sagittae]

Probably a molossus or some hound for hunting.

[@Yh-kg8fr]

Named my shepsky argos and hes the best dog ive ever had

[@Game_Hero]

easy, he is of the good boi breed.

[@automaticmattywhack1470]

Excellent! I love the everyday minutiae of Roman life. I had always thought that the mastiff and wolf-type dogs were the only kinds back then. Fun to learn women had lap/purse dogs back then too! Interesting about the dogs' names too.

[@fetus2280]

Ya had to deal with Vermin somehow,, cats can only do Mice ... Dogs can do everything else, from corral Bulls, Cattle, Sheep to Ratting out a barn .

[@hoplite723]

@@fetus2280 dogs can chase of bulls ? I've always seen farmers warn local dog walkers not to go on their property as dogs keep getting trampled by livestock, but you could be meaning different larger farm worker breeds

[@fetus2280]

@@hoplite723 Certain Breeds yes, they were used to corral bulls . Mastiff type breeds in ancient times . Most of those breeds are long gone but some types are still here to this day . Romans would Fight dogs with Bulls and other animals , along with Gladiator combat etc etc . We have lost all of this over time, some were still doing it in the UK into the modern period but it was fairly rare . Cheers.

[@feroxseneca8997]

@@hoplite723 Corgies were bred to herd cattle. Their legs are small so they can nip cows’ rear ankles without getting kicked in the head.

[@slomosesthakid1840]

Men like these pups too :(

[@xmaniac99]

Well the Italian Greyhound and Malteser are still around, so are various descendents of the molosses (Mastino Napoletano for example). Thank you toldinstone, need to remind myself everytime to keep a copy of your book.

[@doomguy9049]

Yeah there's plenty of Molossian descended breeds left

[@azlandtheamerican]

I had a maltese growing up, they're great

[@brittaistheworst7523]

the dog depicted in the mosaic at 0:49 is doing that funny side eye thing dogs do and idk why I find that so comforting

[@SobekLOTFC]

A moment of silence for my dawg Stephanus- he was a good boi on a serious note, great job as always!

[@toldinstone]

Deeply appreciated!

[@wauliepalnuts6134]

*_WHEN I VISITED POMPEI, THERE WAS MOSAIC AT THE ENTRANCE OF ONE OF THE HOMES WITH THE IMAGE OF A DOG AND THE WORDS "CAVE CANEM", OR "BEWARE OF DOG"._* *_I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT ABOUT THE LESS-THAN-ORNATE MODERN SIGNS WE PUT ON OUR FENCES/DOORS._*

[@bedgegog]

Why bold and italics?

[@diehard096]

@@bedgegog so you really know we need mosaics

[@smeetsnoud1]

@@bedgegog it's Big Richard, it's just the way he speaks.

[@misterx168]

Please don't yell at us ☹

[@robertdavis3433]

Richard, everyone has those thoughts when standing in front of that dog mosaic. Nothing new here.

[@hiddenhist]

I just love the idea that dog prints are in drying roof tiles. Like footprints in drying concrete.

[@Quklasa]

History feels so much more alive when topics like this get covered! Excellent video!

[@elitegamer8351]

that guy loved his dog so much. his love spans the ages and we can see it today. The best boy Stephanus.

[@brianmccarthy5557]

Your description pf the Maltese sounds exactly like the Maltese dogs our company secretary has. The others sound like Italian Greyhounds and Italian Mastiffs. In fact our dog pretty much fits the description of the large breed. The vast majority of dogs aren't kennel club purebreds. I suspect the dogs most of us are familiar with haven't changed radically since Roman times.

[@myriamguns2162]

@Brian McCarthy I believe the modern day Maltese does not have a pointed muzzle. The Maltese shown in the clip is much like a modern Pomeranian which does have a pointed muzzle. Noisy little guys with a lot of character.

[@mozquiff1155]

That statue of the Laconian/Vertragus hounds is exquisite. I'd sell my granny just to own a copy.

[@mozquiff1155]

FWIW, I gather it's in the British Museum and now I'm plotting a visit.

[@philodemos]

The “cane corso” of southern Italy is the closest thing to the ancient molossi. Their very name comes from the Latin “canis cohortis”, as they were used in the Roman army. For centuries in southern Italy they have worked as shepherd dogs, their strength bring particularly useful against the wolfs who still populate many mountainous parts of southern Italy. Today the breed is being revived, afternoon having declined in the past 70 years.

[@luciusmacdonald8546]

Actually the Neapolitan Mastiff or "Mastino Napoletano" is the closest and cane Corso would be the next. I have a bull mastiff at the moment but the dog i had before him was a cane Corso, absolutely a perfect dog!!!

[@secredeath]

@@luciusmacdonald8546 actually it's the rottweiler that's the closest

[@trashpanda8925]

so dogs in purses have been invented at least twice

[@davidec.4021]

They were never un-invented

[@trashpanda8925]

@@davidec.4021 you have peaked my interest, now i wish to see dogs in handbags post fall of western roman empire. like Visigothic monarchs with handbag-dogs or something along those lines :D

[@LiminalQueenMedia]

@@trashpanda8925 they were incredibly common at various times in Chinese courts as well. That's how we got the pekenese

[@lemonade_liz]

Thank you for this informative video. I'd love to watch one on Roman cats 🐈.

[@xdeser2949]

Its not your fault, its the sponsorship, you read the ad copy you're given, but the term "Self Care App" has fully melted my brain

[@CartoonHistory]

3:59 whoever carved that was a genius!

[@meganorser4162]

I love your videos! They are so interesting, and your voice is very calming.

[@JuliusCaesar888]

Just got your book Ryan. I'm excited to start it soon.

[@toldinstone]

I hope you enjoy it!

[@marcusaetius9309]

I’ve always been most impressed with the dogs that were bred to gamble with playing cards….😉

[@jedwalker4543]

Your videos are like having access to a university quality lectures. Thank you for doing this!

[@mds_main]

The Stephanos tomb thing was actually wholesome

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

Instantly clicked, simply love your content!

[@internetexplorer7303]

roman cats would be an excellent video as well!

[@decem_sagittae]

Great video as always. Please do a special on dog burials and tombstones in the future.

[@Western_1]

Forget Jurassic park. Bring the doggos back.

[@djolley61]

it might be interesting if it were possible to extract DNA from any dog bones found from this period to see how they are related to modern breeds.

[@TetsuShima]

"It shall be done in less than a dog sits" *-Emperor Augustus' usual quote*

[@hamzahartley4317]

absolutely love your videos. especially enjoyed the breakdown of the collosuem cost of today and back when it was orinigally built.

[@TetsuShima]

*Fun fact:* Emperor Domitian had during his youth a dog named Lupo, which was treated with great affection by the young Flavian. One night, the future Emperor beat a normal citizen during a game of dice in a low-class bar. When the citizen refused to pay Domitian the money he owed him, Domitian ordered his dog to bite the man. While the dog attacked his prey, Domitian wrote down the amount of money the man owed as a reminder for the next time they met (666 sesterces). Later Christians would use that number in order to associate Domitian with the Antichrist. As for the dog, Domitian lost it while traveling through Pompeii, being possibly the reason his character hardened so much during his reign.

[@dariansergo8451]

Can you name source?

[@TetsuShima]

@@dariansergo8451 The Anthony Burguess' book "The Kingdom of the Wicked" (which is based on a great amount of classical sources) talks in detail about Domitian and his dog

[@dariansergo8451]

@@TetsuShima You are very kind.

[@UNDERCOVER_E]

I finally took a trip to Rome a few weeks ago and saw many of the great historic sights. Im glad I watch this channel because I was able to recount some of your knowledge to my family at different sites! Thank you for spreading this knowledge, and for making it entertaining as well!

[@slickrick2420]

Bring back the roman doggos

[@patriciadanna7433]

As a dog lover, I enjoyed this video. Very Informative. You cover this topic in one of the chapters in your book.

[@toldinstone]

Glad you enjoyed it! When writing the script, I took a few paragraphs from my book, and expanded them with additional information.

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

This needs a multi-part, multi-hour video, not a mere 5 minutes (excluding the sponsor message)!

[@MatthewChenault]

“Woof!” - The wise words of a Hunting Dog from Rome: Total War

[@claytonsutherland1359]

Great video and very nicely curated backgrounds on each slide too!

[@bluesquare23]

That story about Rhodope and his pupper Stephanos brought a tear to my eye. I bet Stephanos was the bestest of boys!

[@TesterAnimal1]

Read about Gelert, the faithful hound of Prince Llewelyn if you want a weepy…

[@simonmcnicholas]

I had a Rottweiler for 9 years, supposedly descended from roman dogs mixed with German breeds. I don’t think dogs have changed all that much in 2000 years. I can imagine a Roman centurion sharing the camp fire with his loyal beast on campaign deep in the forests of Germania 🤔

[@secredeath]

Yes you are right expect not shepherds but mix with black and tan terriers from England

[@hoplite723]

They had them wear cool armour as well

[@MalleusIudaeorum]

Dogs have changed massively in just the last 150 years or so. All modern breeds didn’t exist before that time period. There were no pedigrees. Then the English started creating all these different breeds for different working and sporting purposes and the rest of the world followed.

[@TesterAnimal1]

On my command, release Hell!

[@vinny9988]

owner - passes away dog - guess I'll die too

[@asg32000]

Hahaha the dogs bred for poker!

[@scottabc72]

Small dogs werent always pampered pets. I believe most agree that early small breeds were bred to hunt rats and remained very useful for this centuries afterwards

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

And were also a delicacy. I'm not even kidding.

[@macpatten9249]

As someone who was introduced to you via ForeheadFables, my opinion may not super valuable. That being said, thank you for finding ways to introduce, from what I can see, a great synopsis of genuinely asked questions. Plus being willing to associate with them the way Ken Jennings did with you is fittingly hilarious 😂 Looking forward to more of your stuff, Dr. Ryan. 👍

[@midwesterndrop-ape3066]

Great video as always! I picked up your book on audio and it answered my question “well what about cats?” Will definitely be picking up a hard copy in the near future to bring to your next book signing

[@TesterAnimal1]

That Molossian is in the British Museum. I took a dash through the Rome section last time I had business in ThatLondon.

[@esti-od1mz]

Well, I would say that some of them still exist. In Sicily we still have two breeds since the antiquity. And the Cane corso is diffused in all of Italy; the neapolitan mastiff is also quite famous

[@spankflaps1365]

0:50 That’s cool, the Hellenistic Greeks had HMV.

[@tsbrownie]

0:29 So Roman dogs also chased tennis balls?

[@danielvaldez9946]

Could you please do one on Roman fauna? Maybe there are some weird extinct sightings on record.

[@cjthebeesknees]

Second this, heavily.

[@juneroberts5305]

Gets my vote!

[@inspirednamehere6166]

Was initially going to skip through the advert, but was surprised that it actually sounds like quite a useful idea. Thank you for continuing the excellence of your content to your choice of sponsors!

[@btetschner]

Very fascinating, great video. I really like how the dogs were buried next to them. Thank you for the video.

[@optomixx4050]

Love it! Great Video. Still waiting on the video about Roman citizenship. WOuld like to know all about the ins and outs and benefits compared to non-citizens.

[@madmattdigs9518]

I wish these videos were longer.

[@thedativecase9733]

I wonder if that image of the seated dog at 0'46 is what inspired the HMV (His Master's Voice) original logo? There were a few old brand names etc that have Latin or Greek inspirations - Nivea face cream comes from the Latin word for snowy, Ajax (stronger than grease) cleaner ,

[@pablodelsegundo9502]

I wish my departed dog had an inscribed tomb. I have to make do with a shrine, though.

[@1hunglow582]

Hey dogs!

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

They were all very very good boys.

[@DrPwN131]

and they were all good puppies

[@ScottHebertArt]

as an artist that has made a bunch of pet drawings/painting I am not surprised at all someone with money commissioned a painting.

[@manolososadavinci1937]

Man’s best friend…,when we rose out of the mud as a species our loyal boys weren’t in front of us nor were they behind us but they were side by side next to us they are too prefect for this life

[@manolososadavinci1937]

@Let Your L⚡️GHT Forever Shine ❤️ Let your comment be used as a dislike button not the irrelevant opinion that no one asked for as it is

[@tzardnickolasthelitromanov]

Imagine if we could resurrect ancient dog breeds or varieties via genetic cloning. Like imagine yourself owning a Celtic Wolfhounds or North American Direwolfs or Molossian..... That would be so goddam cool

[@balloe3466]

I feel so much guilt for not having bought your book yet... I enjoy your videos so much. I promise I'll buy it 🤣

[@coldmexican288]

Lol the tennis balls background

[@c.r.c4101]

Awesome video! If you like this topic you might also like to hear more about extinct dog breeds of North America. There is a good video by 'Trey the explainer'. Not affiliated just also a good video.

[@arnoldward7153]

You forgot to mention the dogs used in war. My understanding is that the Romans had a Rottweiler type dog that was used in their battles. It had a black coat very similar to the Rottweiler and Fable has it that many years later they were used in battle also. It is said that Muhammad when he encountered opposing armies that used this dog, he was bit by one and that is the origin to the uncleanness of a dog particularly a black dog

[@MalleusIudaeorum]

Modern breeds have only existed for around 150 years or so, Rottweilers much less than that.

[@WestlehSeyweld]

It was funny seeing you on forehead fables

[@quantafreeze]

Cute puppers!

[@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008]

Garrett could you please make a video about the crest on top of the Roman helmets that officers would wear? I'd like to know more about who wore them and when. Btw loved your book. Wrote a nice review on audible mentioning this channel.

[@Angelfeather100]

As a dog lover, I really enjoyed this post. It seems Louis Vuitton (LV) proudly « backs » the ancient Pomeranian (at 4:02)… 😛

[@eagle-tn6br]

Thank you sir

[@louisfreudenburg]

I loved you book and your videos! thanks for the great content. One thing I'd be interested to know more about is the ideas around luck and superstition in ancient Rome. Seems like an idea thats probably been around forever, but we aren't any closer to understanding.

[@AlbertManiscalco]

wish someone would do a history video on King Garamantes who was rescued by his giant pack of dogs when he was captured in battle...havent found much detail about the story or what the dogs looked like. My favorite dog breed (the Azawakh) is from that region so i like to think it was their ancestors :)

[@timothyodonnell8591]

Enjoyed the video!

[@Therileyrileyriley]

The Mark Felton of Rome

[@Vercingetorix.Fantasia]

For so long I thought your channel name was Tod Linstone LMAO!!! Funny what we see at a glance

[@robspecht9550]

“Dawgs, yeh I like dawgs”

[@jasonavant7470]

I like caravans more.

[@wirmerflagge999]

actually the molossians are the direct ancestors to cane corso, italian mastiff, american bull dogs and hundreds of other molosser types. this we know for certain.

[@deewesthill6966]

How much did Roman dogs contribute to the genetic lineage of dog breeds in outlying areas? The narrator mentioned a dog strong enough to pull small carts. The Rottweiler breed was developed in Rottweil, Germany, a town founded in the 1st century AD as 'Arae Flaviae" by the Romans. Rottweilers are a strong breed that in the 19th century were used by butchers to pull small carts full of meat. Is there any connection, I wonder?

[@joaomus]

they were all good boys

[@LauraS1]

Hey, my dad built a small dog cart for our St Bernard back when I was a kid so that makes me totally believe that an emperor would have harnessed a brace of dogs to a chariot for an evening perambulation around his estate. LOL Seriously though, we kids were supposed to be in a Christmas parade but my dad knew us younger two would never be able to walk that far so he created a dog cart out of conduit poles and plywood, painted it all green, made a harness covered in plastic holly, bolted that to the frame, and would fasten the dog into it. Fortunately, Andy, the dog, absolutely LOVED his cart and would go get it even after the parade and bring it to the door, waiting for us kids to come out and get in. We'd fasten the harness (he'd drag the cart up to the door in his teeth), get in, and go wherever he felt like going. There was no controlling him as, in the parade, Dad had led him on a leash. Since nobody wanted to get down and walk with him, we let him just go wherever he wanted to, which led to some interesting rides, sometimes through the nearby woods. LOL Andy was an exceptional dog and an exceptional St Bernard.

[@malkomalkavian]

Thank you :)

[@Shibanobi]

As both a romaboo and a dog fanatic i feel like this is the epitome of your channel!! Thank you for making this!

[@LC-iw3ll]

Great video!

[@LOKgr]

Today the small greek dog breed of Kokoni is of ancient origin... a dog that used to be in the houses keep company to the kids and the women and still is today..

[@thomas316]

I always enjoy your videos. 🙂👍

[@bravo0105]

“The costumes, props, and scenery change, yet the play remains the same.”

[@Masada1911]

They are still good boys and good girls

[@sergiomartins8626]

I had Dogue Du Bordeauxs for many years and they are an ancient breed that most likely existed during the classic period

[@Beane_the_RD]

Love your videos! Perhaps now a video on the feline members of our (and the Roman) World?!!

[@GameDevNerd]

Actually, chickens were probably the first animals ever domesticated. It's a close contest between chickens and goats. Dogs came thousands of years later.

[@reeyees50]

Dogs predate chickens by a long shot

[@aum1083]

00:47 His Master's Voice? 😉

[@Ptaku93]

so, I feel like this video lacked more info about the demise of the ancient proto-breeds - why it happened and when was the last time they appear in the historical record

[@kaloarepo288]

British historian Bethany Hughes made a program about Pompeii and she visited that house with the famous dog mosaic on the floor with the "Caveat canem" sign -and then she met a man who had a Molossian hound that might be a descendant of that dog-the dog looked quite gross by my tastes with saliva dribbling constantly from its mouth and it had a really inelegant shape!

[@robertgiles9124]

Bethany Hughes looked quite gross by my tastes with saliva dribbling constantly.

[@zacharymcdonald6323]

Humans never really change.

[@darcyking14]

Dogs ❤️

[@brianedwards7142]

Cave Canem

[@raphlvlogs271]

dogs are being bred much faster than they can naturally evolve and diversify

[@gaemlinsidoharthi]

Reminding us that, despite a few years of dark ages, those Greek and Roman times were not so long ago.

[@roiq5263]

It astonishes me how "modern" Romans were, and yet their civilization still collapsed.

[@ericsharp2321]

Women

[@jeannerogers7085]

~1000 years was a remarkable run for any civilization - count the Byzantine world as a continuation, and Roman civ. lasted ~ 2000 years.

[@Misses-Hippy]

The thumnail dog is the default dog in Egypt.