Do's and Don'ts in Finland | KatChats

[@RoyalCrustle]

I really don't understand why people would wear shoes indoors. So uncomfortable, and dirt gets everywhere. :/

[@miguellagos8889]

Royal Crustle In my culture you wear your shoes indoors if you're visiting somone... in my own house I wear crocks or slippers. =/ what if people have ugly feet?

[@RoyalCrustle]

miguel lagos Have you heard if socks?

[@satan5059]

Royal Crustle Ever heard of respecting culture ._."

[@antonmyrberg2434]

It's not disrespectful to oppose or argue against an action that is done? I live in Sweden and I don't really understand the purpose of having shoes indoors to me it's more polite and respectful to remove your shoes. Otherwise like Royal crustle said it will get so dirty so quick etc. Just because it's done in a culture doesn't mean it's not stupid haha.

[@elinakirjokivi6751]

Royal Crustle Agreed

[@420cactusgaming7]

As a Finn, you wont believe how weird it was to watch the us presidential debate when Trump And Hillary were just interupting each other every other second...

[@brittnicrosier932]

As an American -- it still drove me absolutely insane. But seriously, most American mainstream news shows are like that, and are therefore unwatchable

[@insomnigalactia2983]

420CactusGaming must have gave you a headache. I would have just punched the TV XD

[@kenhur9800]

Now with tRump as president, it's stranger than the twilight zone

[@holoholopainen1627]

Making America Great Again ! Dont wear shoes inside - You wet Winter boots !

[@tomasbadura4551]

I am from the Czech republic and in the politics it is also kind a embarrasing, when 2 people interrupt themselves

[@pvt.prinny759]

As finnish i can confirm bragging is usually considered being smug

[@catchupichu]

Elvis Presley En kyllä muista että Elvis olisi suomalainen :D

[@tinttiakka2028]

ok

[@MsMesem]

Bragging is considered smug anywhere; a smug person brags about themselves.

[@holoholopainen1627]

Beautiful People - Know IT already ! Try Something - smart !

[@dianalopes2840]

But like, if i brag as a joke, is it okay?

[@Eliiinamaria]

I'm from Finland and I really don't understand in the US why you don't take your shoes off when you go inside?? I mean if it's really muddy outside, do you still go in with your shoes on and make the hole floor muddy? Or do you only wear shoes inside when it's not so dirty outside? But I mean, still the floor gets dirty cus little rocks get stuck under the shoes..

[@viivivaa356]

XD

[@anteatermkIV]

I'm an American, and I agree with you! We take off our shoes in our house, I think it also increases a sense of closeness with any guests you have.

[@RoyalCrustle]

lerch 2016 Quests? This ain't a video game, dude. XD

[@kr0pp]

Yeah, like, I think taking shoes off is a very pragmatic thing to do: not only can your foot "breathe", but also you are minimising the risk of dirt getting everywhere and also damaging your hardwood floors (little stone chips tend to get stuck in the grooves of your shoe)

[@opalinedream1021]

We don't wear shoes in our own houses or at the houses of people we're close to. It's more like if you're visiting an acquaintance/going to a fancy dinner/etc. We keep our shoes on in more formal situations but (at least in my experience) if you know the hosts well it's acceptable to take off your shoes. We have door mats as well, we wipe off our shoes before we enter the building.

[@timsummers870]

Excellent. To add a few cultural tips I learned from a Finnish friend of mine: Finnish people don't bullshit anyone, they're very honest and direct. Also, they hate small talk, so it's best to avoid starting a meaningless conversation with an unknown person, especially in public transit. But that doesn't mean they won't talk to you if necessary. If you need help, for example, they will be extremely glad to give you directions or explain stuff to you. They just don't see a point in wasting their time and brain power talking about things that are meaningless. But this isn't just a Finnish thing. Nearly all other northern European countries are like that too. E.g., Germany, Netherlands and the Scandinavian countries in general whereas in the south of Europe such as in Italy, southern France, Portugal, Spain and Greece, you can interrupt people whenever you like (and expect to be interrupted too), touch people on the shoulder, be loud, late, etc etc... It's just how things are. To learn more, read about the difference between monochronic vs polychronic cultures, a concept observed by anthropologist Andrew T. Hall in the 1950s.

[@enni6214]

Im not going To read all of, that xD

[@mattiamele3015]

@@gizmomogwai1041 not liking conflict is a con? wow, what a twisted way of thinking.

[@austinsteward8956]

@@mattiamele3015 Communication is key. So is direct action.

[@LukeHarveyhar]

I hate wearing shoes indoors! Everyone in America thinks its weird that i just wear socks inside the dorms haha

[@KatChats.]

Oh so people wear shoes inside their dorms too?

[@LukeHarveyhar]

KatChats yeah its so confusing to me!

[@dianeteeter6650]

Luke Harvey no, i have always taken off my shoes even when i knew my feet would be cold. Please do not steriotype americans

[@journeybeyondthesea]

Luke Harvey uhm no I’m American and we NEVER do that! I guess it depends on the person but that never happens here 🤨

[@dianeteeter6650]

愛莉 L H probably not an American, just likes making false news, as he or she trolls along

[@soulis1000]

I think you just described all of Scandinavia :) Its exactly like that in Sweden too. Btw i dont understand why you would want to have your shoes on all the time inside? That would make the house dirtyer and your feet need to breath too :) An the thing about not interupting when somebody speak is just a polite thing to do i think.

[@soulis1000]

And btw, if your on time your 5 minutes late :D

[@soulis1000]

Im right handed btw and i use the right hand to hold the fork, if i used the left hand i would probobly put the food in my eye or something :D But we are told to use the left hand to hold the fork here in Sweden too. Enough rambeling from me :)

[@Aurinkohirvi]

With me it depends what I'm eating. If I eat beef/ham with potatoes, it's fork in the left hand. But if I'm eating something made of fine pieces, like rice or macaroni, the fork goes into the right hand like a spoon. I really can't do it otherwise.

[@Bee-ru8ld]

Sorry but i had to say this: Finland is not part of scandinavia

[@InschrifterOfficial]

I think all of this fits on ever central to north european country.

[@annbellgrau]

I think it's so rude to interrupt someone when they are talking! I hate it so much when someone does that when I'm speaking, I get really angry and don't want to talk to them anymore :D because I feel like they don't care about what I'm saying, they just want to speak themselves. And I started the sentence for a reason - to say what I wanted to say, and if someone interrupts me, I can't finish it and they will only hear the beginning of it

[@Lightnings]

Sorbet Same here

[@insomnigalactia2983]

Sorbet when someone in finland interrupst my sentence, i will say ,,whatever, i was about to tell something very important" and then i walk away, when they ask where i went, i just run like 1Km further, and if they catch up, id say ,,you had ur chance, but u lost it"

[@zarnoffa]

I think there can be different sorts of conversation. Some are very back and forth where you take turns very distinctly - formal. Other conversations, especially with friends or someone you’re collaborating with on a project or commiserating with about an issue... yeah, if a person doesn’t know how to be lively and interrupt, or be interrupted, or even speak at the same time, I feel they are limited like playing one key at a time on a piano. They put politeness above free expression. In a lively conversation, You’re on the “same page” and can finish each other’s sentences or stop a person’s thought just as if they were your own thought... and they have permission to do the same to you. This is where creative magic happens with a real exchange of spirit and fun and expression.

[@henryficklin7176]

Im British and I never understood Americans not taking of shoes in the house.

[@henryficklin7176]

MsMesem Werabouts in the UK?

[@MsMesem]

North and south, rural and suburban older and younger households, wealthy and low income.

[@henryficklin7176]

huh

[@henryficklin7176]

Interesting

[@drunkcatphil9911]

Yup exactly the same here, although I know people that do take them off. It's pretty flexible, I'd never take off my shoes at my grans because the floor is chilly as fuck but if it's carpet then the shoes come off. Just common sense Edit: I'm British too

[@valedro]

From the Finnish perspective I'm not that punctual. I'm late a lot and I usually keep people waiting. But when I was in Spain I almost went insane. People were so late! They could be late several hours if they came at all. Some people were late a full day. Things never happened when they were supposed to or in the way they were supposed to. And Spanish people were so laid back about everything too. They couldn't understand why I got so angry at their tardiness. And I still can't understand how they ever get anything done over there. :D

[@KeyLime231]

My entire family if Hispanic and they are the most self centered, careless people in the world.not saying all Hispanic people are like that but these Hispanics are

[@Ricky911_]

I've lived in Italy for the past year. One of my teachers was always 15-20 minutes late and it really pissed me off. In case you're wandering, I hate Italy and I suffer from depression because of it, not even kidding, I cry for no reason every once in a while too. Do NOT move here, TRUSS ME

[@lauraferrer5021]

Hi I'm from Spain hahaha Europe has the sense that here in Spain we are lazy and don't do anything. I would say that's not true. I think we are actually more productive than other countries, we can have something done in 1 hour while in other countries they will take much more time. Yes, we are late, but for a maximum of one hour. I've never waited more than one hour for someone. But for example we are late with our friends because we are close, but for example with a stranger I will never be late. And this is the same for a lot of Spanish people.

[@MrElectricVibration]

Allowing the other person to finish their sentence allows for you to reflect on what they say and come back with an appropriate response. It is how an intelligent conversation should go ( imo tho maybe i'm biased ? ). In a more casual setting about a casual topic like a movie scene, an overlapping conversation is more natural ( for jokes and quick agreements/comments ).

[@sandrahenriksson6257]

Okay, I know how common here in Finland the fork and knife thing is... But I've never heard of someone eating a burger with a fork and knife :'D

[@bavuh1249]

Sandra Henriksson You haven't met my dad then.

[@bavuh1249]

Miks mää sanoin ton englannilla ._.

[@elinor7349]

At fancier restaurants it's quite common :) Not in fast food places

[@sandrahenriksson6257]

anamona Sometimes I still use only the fork, but only on certain meals

[@Hauntercry]

Well ofc you don't eat mcdonalds with a fork and knife but if you order a burger at a restaurant it's just so huge that it's impossible to eat it without em without getting messy

[@UwU_for_Christ]

None of this is weird? As an English person, apart from the timekeeping, the rest of this is just politeness/proper behaviour

[@KatesAdventures]

Apparently I rest my pen on my ring finger. Huh. I thought it was my middle finger until I tried the ring finger and then it felt like that moment in Harry Potter where the wand chooses its wizard.

[@KatChats.]

hahaah xD

[@cobcast1568]

Kate's Adventures 5 points awarded to Slytherin !

[@binyanlumagnettradingltd5938]

I should live in Finland, sounds perfect for me

[@manojshrestha3229]

your face is brighter than my future.

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

Nagato Pain I know right? It is so stunning. She is very lovely indeed.

[@holoholopainen1627]

I Love The Cat

[@alejandroh.monarres9614]

Does it really matters, dude?

[@hemanshuchudasama3535]

@@alejandroh.monarres9614 yep bro she tried to look good and someone is appreciative what's your problems bruh

[@cintulator2]

Please don't ring my doorbell when I am watching porno. With a fork in my right hand.

[@imatrOlda]

cintu lator suomalaista huumoria :)

[@cintulator2]

Sitä juuri, mutta esmes hiiltä täytyisi pitää kädessä juuri noin.

[@t00b]

HAHAHA

[@petrusinvictus3603]

I DO not wanna know where your knife is...

[@jonnajosefina]

Todellakin nimettömällä! Mua myös opetettiin satoja kertoja pitämään keskisormella ja en koskaan oppinut. :D

[@KatChats.]

Siis minne tyrkkään mun pikkusormen jos keskisormella kirjotan?! xD

[@jonnajosefina]

Niimpä! :'D Onkohan tää oikeesti pelkästään Suomessa tapana, vai onko muuallakin maailmassa? Muistan että olin joskus ala-asteella kerran erityisopettajalla yhden tunnin että oppisin kirjottaan oikein... Niinku what XD

[@KatChats.]

Eikä, oikeesti!? Siis eiköhän ole tärkeämpiä asioita joihin vois keskittyä :P Jos käsialasta saa selvää nii eihän siihen tarttes puuttua nii vakavasti haha!

[@jonnajosefina]

Kyllä, oikeesti! :D Muistan että jopa mun äiti hermostui siitä kun keskityttiin tollaseen asiaan koulussa...

[@Aurinkohirvi]

+^Elegy^ Kieltämättä, kääntäähän tuollainen luonnottomuus vatsaa! Niin kuin nurinpäin kääntyvät nivelet ... ei vaan voi katsoa, kun tekee pahaa. Vaikka ei se toiseen satukkaan niin sanoo että: "älä, älä!"

[@0Quiwi0]

That come visiting unannounced thing actually depends on where you live. If you live in a rural area it's way different than some apartment building in the middle of a city. Anyway the big word here is FRIENDS. If you are actually friends with the fellow and want to visit them out of the blue, it's probably ok. If you have had few conversations with your neighbor and decide to pop in it's not ok. Friend means a lot in Finland. The fork and knife thing is pretty weird. I usually just use a fork only, unless I need to cut something. Same goes with the pen thing. That's just your teacher. I wouldn't mind if someone grabbed their pen with a full fist as long as they write something readable.

[@drunkcatphil9911]

As a Brit I feel so weird not having a knife, I went to Kazakhstan for a month where using a knife generally is a bit weird and I felt pretty much disabled without one unless the meal was pasta etc. It really irks me seeing people using them the wrong way round or not using a knife at all if it's not finger food (pasta not so much), I dunno it's just the classic British table manners I was brought up on that kick in like OCD especially when people don't close their mouth when eating or burp and spit (which if you hate that I'd avoid China it happens all the time). It's so good to know there's another country out there that has the same thing and I'm not totally alone as this table manners/knife weirdo haha

[@Helsinkipop]

Bragging about your product that does not deliver, it's taught in the Harvard Business School for a hundred thousand of dollar per semester. Always under promise and over over deliver . This keeps the customer happy. To the Finns, it's natural, no need to spend 100k a semester to learn that.

[@geftoo]

Yeah, I personally get suspicious about the product if it tries to over sell it self as the best in the world. I would hardly ever buy that product.

[@elderscrollsswimmer4833]

That would be suspicious. Why would I want something you're so eager to be rid of? Extremely low price: "Is that stolen, unacceptable quality or something?" Or that "Changes your life" -- No. I'm not going to let some /object/ change my life. Come to think of it, shouldn't such things be illegal or at least heavily regulated?

[@holoholopainen1627]

I didt buy an mobile phone - When someone Said - IT IS revolutenary ! - and You can / text / to all You Friends ! I Didn't believe - that / Till MUCH LATER !

[@tulikukka1043]

I'm not sore about the technique of holding you pen that way being a Finnish thing, but schools do pay close attention to how students hold their pencils in order to make sure they develop a technique that doesn't wear out your hand when writing.

[@cookieheart8611]

I'm from Finland and we are taught right away when we start school how to "correctly" hold a pen and write, hold your fork and knife and for example how to tie your shoe laces😂 And we think it's totally normal (but i still eat the "wrong" way lol)

[@KatChats.]

Oh yeah I think they did the shoe lace thing in eskari xD

[@Ricky911_]

Honestly, I don't even know if I hold a fork and knife right. I just eat LOL

[@shellbythesea12]

I wish it was considered rude here to keep your shoes on in someone's house here as well,but pigs just walk all over your clean floor with their dirty shoes. This is a custom to me that makes total sense because you have been walking around outside in the dirt and then go inside someone's house and walk on their floors with your shoes? Being humble sounds like a good thing to me. Too many braggarts.

[@noposmeh6855]

In Spain someone starts talking. Then another one interrupts talking louder. Then a third person does the same as the second person. Then the first person talk to another one because he wanted to say it, but in that semi-conversation gets interrupted as well. And the cycle continues untill everyone is screaming and laughing like dolphins.

[@MartinaAKJohansson]

Why the hell do Americans keep their shoes on INDOORS and visit friends unannounced haha! (I'm Swedish) My American friends also tend to think I'm waaaaay way to modest :)

[@MrNealSalo]

Besides the cleanliness factor, bare feet are so much freer. Children have the right idea; the soles of your feet tell you a lot about where you are. And when people knock on my door unannounced, it's like startling a cat in a cartoon. I also don't like braggarts. I'm an American, but only 2 generations from Finland; based on anecdotal evidence, my Finnish forebears live in me!

[@Max-The-Axe]

Martina A K Johansson I’m American and to be honest showing up unannounced is fine because a lot of times my friend doesn’t answer his phone and sometimes you just show up just hang or something and if they got plans well they got plans.

[@markusosenius5317]

Actually in summertime bare feet are often more dirty than clean. Of course depends, what you have on your feet. If anything. And how often do you wash your feet.

[@holoholopainen1627]

@@Max-The-Axe Call before - so ill get some kahvi & pulla ! - or You being some ?

[@valoxiii422]

im american and i dont. most of the people i know dont

[@stb1979]

When I lived in the US, I was smiled at because I ate pizza with a knife and fork, haha. My ex (American) said "it's so European". I never understood the wearing shoes inside thing in the US, though. I taught my ex that we don't wear shoes inside, and our place was always tidy and clean. When we visited my in-laws, I wore shoes inside because their wall-to-wall carpets were so dirty from them wearing the same shows inside and out :/

[@inevitablethursday]

I don't know the details but I believe we actually have some laws that say you can't not advertise anything as "the best" unless there is actual proof that it is in fact the best. Quite a few other rules and regulations as well. I do write the way you describe you were told to, and I do eat with a fork and a knife as is proper. *amused* Having been to US it was taken as weird since over there you simply cut your food then only use the fork. *shrug*

[@EricArts]

Estonian here, can relate to these to some degree.

[@kristjanvenno]

nii on

[@sublimelyh70]

It's simply good manners to never show up at another's home without notice. Doing so is simply considered inconsiderate of the other.

[@bubbles6853]

exactly!

[@lovelypacific]

really? lol ive never really lived in a neighborhood in my own house by i know my parents friends used to show up all the time and my mom would grumble that she was tired/not ready/not in a good mood then open up the door with a wide smile and joke and laugh for like three hours lol. also in my boarding it was common to knock on people rooms without pre-informing them. i have friends who would start banging on the door and shout "i know youre in there" if we tried to ignore them. meh

[@SelanneFan8]

sublimelyh70 it's more and more frowned upon in America too. At least unless you're told "yeah come over whenever you want to you don't even have to knock you're family come right in" like my best friend's family is like that they tell me don't bother knocking or anything and door is always open but I am considered family to them by them. But regular friends/acquaintances it's always much MUCH better and preferred to call first or text first

[@TheSuspectOnFoot]

I don't think this is a cultural thing as I'm sure that this varies in both countries. I sometimes visit my best friends without notice but I wouldn't do it to people that I don't hang out with all the time or have really good relations with. I find it odd that someone mentioned it's about upbringing as I see it as something that falls under everyone's own judgement. At least I was never told any rules about the matter

[@sublimelyh70]

You answered your own question Suspect. You were never told nor taught of any rules about the matter, which is why you weren't aware of them, even whilst others were. It's simply a matter of being considerate of others when it comes to proper social etiquette aka good manners. Such etiquette can prove intrinsically cultural, societal, regional, class specific, or generational. It simply depends...Oh, and the rules aren't always universal Suspect, they tend to differ upon where one happens to be. As someone who was raised by Foreign Service parents, and who travelled extensively growing up, one learnt quickly that what proved the norm in one country or region wasn't always the case in another. =)

[@truthseeker000000]

This is the first video of yours I'm watching. Your speaking tone is so soothing. You seem to have a quiet and very civil confidence - It's not a brash or in your face confidence like many Americans I've met. I liked your informative 'Dos & Don'ts' in Finland. I'll be visiting Finland this coming July. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm from Singapore and here and most Singaporeans I know use their middle finger to support the pen when they write.

[@KatChats.]

Oh thank you so much ! And I wish you a lovely trip to Finland this summer :)

[@truthseeker000000]

Thank you! :)

[@farooq5190]

I have a question.. why do Finnish people say torille when they meet in comments?

[@inkatuuli2196]

Enzelynia maybe in Helsinki 😂😂 dont make the whole Finland in that 😂😂 i havent ever heard that "torille" thing.. In Helsinki you have your own little world 😂😂

[@Escapistier]

InkaTuuli How can you not see it if you have ever been on internet? :D

[@inkatuuli2196]

Escapistier i usually dont read comments 😂 maybe thats why..

[@farooq5190]

Enzelynia thank you! I understand Finnish but I have been wondering why they say torille. thanks again for the answer

[@zizi81]

I think it all started when we did good in ice hockey. As soon as the team got back in Finland, we had a big event to celebrate them at the market square. After that it's been used just like Enzelynia explained.

[@youssefhiggins.6945]

I use my middle finger, but I find it easier to rest it on my finger.

[@stagnantfox3027]

Only Americans it seems do the first and second dont's. Please consider that walking with shoes indoors is gross and a very great way of getting easy infections and diseases, especially tuberculosis.

[@sara-ellenlaspa5289]

Time Axl Yeah, you're right.

[@opalinedream1021]

Wipe your feet on the mat before you walk in! And where are you living that you might casually track in T.B. on your shoe??? It might be time to move. 😂

[@eeeeeeeeeeeee9651]

parabot2 Butthurt much?

[@stagnantfox3027]

parabot2 Not sure if I am supposed to read it in satire tones or real. Ether way, I'm not even Scandinavian. I'm from Ukraine lol.

[@armoniereed3307]

Nah not Asian Americans and some Black Americans.

[@brittnicrosier932]

I'm from the US and write with the pen on my ring finger, but teachers in school (plus lots of strangers since) tell me it's 'weird' / 'incorrect'. Also, I'm considering grad school in Finland and your videos have been making me quite excited!! because it seems like a perfect fit. Same experience where I'm always waiting for a chance to speak and there is none... to the point that one person will uncomfortably keep talking and talking as if I'm not cutting them off appropriately, so they can't stop. Comfortable silences, humble-ness, introvertedness, always taking shoes off --- all things I really appreciate.

[@appleskum6520]

I love your videos because you teach me things about my other language and country Finland! :) I were born in Sweden and has lived here since forever, I never got to learn Finnish when I was young, because my father thought that it was better that me and my siblings learned Swedish only instead for some reason... :( I will find ways to learn Finnish, I will travel there so much when I grow older, when I get a job and move to my own place. I will learn more about my second culture, and to learn way more Finnish and grammar, and complex Finnish, I love Finland. I will also get a tattoo with a FINNISH&SWEDISH FLAG... I am proud of being Finnish and Swedish and I love it... I want to be able to say that I can speak both of my languages :) Thank you so much for making these videos! :D

[@KatChats.]

That's awesome! I think it's great that you want to learn more about your second culture :)

[@Diabeetus_]

btw its only your teacher, you dont have to use a knife while eating -.-. and most people eat pizza with fork & knife until the pizza is small enough to hold its weight so the toppings wont fall and stuff. + almost nobody eats hamburgers with fork & knife, but if its in a classy resturant then people eat with fork & knifes

[@applikaatio]

It's not only her teacher, mine did that too and it was terrifying xD

[@juliush2580]

It is definitely not just her teacher, mine did it also. Not for me but to others.

[@hhhypeoy4524]

ArskaD44 I use my knife on my right hand and fork left and actually alot of Finns do that except the left handed they do it the other way

[@Esarix]

Big proper burgers in restaurants(not McDonalds) are impossible to eat with your hands. Never gonna fit in your mouth. Basic shitburgers(like in McDonalds) you can squeeze till it fits in ur mouth.

[@makORmalonek]

I use the middle finger, I am Czech and the teachers would correct that as well. Apparently it is more ergonomic or something.

[@sudocatsda1guy390]

Malonek It's just that most people are right handed and it's harder to stab people with left. Apparently this was a thing back when kings had meals with people planning treason. Though having been stabbed at kitchen table with breadknife, I think it's bit archaic.

[@corylusbluefox9482]

Some of these are common in England too. From my experience, it is pretty normal to take off shoes when you're indoors and to not show up unannounced at people's houses. My teachers forced me to hold a pen like that too, and as it was unnatural to me I ended up getting blisters and strain injuries. It feels kind of like being told to write with your non-dominant hand.

[@Vivii2502]

I'm going to Finlad this month, so good to know these things :)

[@KatChats.]

Glad I could help! :)

[@jaskau2462]

VivianGonza WHERE! TELL ME! NOOOOOW! Just kiddin´(Iguess) You are surely welcome, in case you haven´t yet! Enjoy your stay!

[@Vivii2502]

JaskaU2 Turku! I'm flying december 27th. And thank you very much!!!

[@jaskau2462]

VivianGonza Gracias, no problemo. You get FIN at just in time to celebrate the upcoming year. Have a peaceful Xmas time and do enjoy your stay in the west coast of Finland! Cheers!

[@Vivii2502]

JaskaU2 Jaja hablo español :) Yes, I'm exited to see what is it like celebrating there. Again, thank you very much, you're so kind xx

[@foodishbeauty]

Always so interesting to see these videos Katya, awe we got to see the cute kitty too, his little noises are too cute!!😭😻😻

[@KatChats.]

My heart melted when I was editing this

[@osemarvin2847]

Good and valid points :) A few comments and / or thoughts (as a native Finn :) About being punctual: The reason why events/meetings/etc start on the dot in Finland, is fairly simple; We respect other people and therefore respect the fact that their time is valuable. It matters :) Pencil holding: Never heard about any rules or guidelines, regarding how to hold your pencil. That teacher must have had some sort of OCD or such:)

[@MikeWal2]

There seems to be one exception to the Take Your Shoes Off rule. When someone's son/daughter has just finished grammar school and have got the white hat that signifies they are ready for university, it is normal to invite family; friends and neighbours to the house (during a - say - 3 hour period). Often - especially if the event could spread into the garden - they tell you on arrival not to bother taking your shoes off. Presumably because with small entrance spaces and many people at once there would be logistic problems.

[@AmanShah187]

Ugh hate when people just show up without calling first, its pretty frowned upon in modern America as well. I'm from Pakistan and showing up without letting people know was super common but like much of the world it has become a no no. Think its more about the reclusiveness and "individualism" people are falling into in the modern world compared to clan and family oriented life and culture of the past.

[@ullalaisi2567]

Khan Baba i am Finnish and approve this message.

[@bubbles6853]

"people are falling into in the modern world compared to clan and family oriented life and culture of the past." um no... in my homecountry it's the same about visitation and always has been. It IS about family oriented life, you just don't want someone randomly disturbing your family life and privacy.

[@AmanShah187]

Chip well since you don't name your home country all I can say is take a moment to look at societal shift at large because the age of western individuality is penetrating all corners of the globe. The nuclear family vs extended family. People move around a lot more and make great distances between them and large family units. Its a pretty plain as day sociological observation. But good for you guys wherever that country is.

[@bubbles6853]

Khan Baba yeah it's just plain rude to come over unannounced.

[@opalinedream1021]

I agree, in the past neighbors and friends were more commonly seen as an extension of the "family" but now things are more private. My family is super close so we have a lot of spontaneous visits, my grandmother drops by unannounced all the time and I welcome it. But I would never just show up at a friends house like that.

[@senjas7464]

Some time ago maybe (about 40 years ago) it was more common thing to go visit someone unannounced. Back then it was normal to always have some cake or something in case someone comes over. These days it's better to ask first if you can come over or not.

[@Presijenkki]

Wow, I"m from Finland, and you had some really good points! My writing is all over the place, I have 5 ways to write/draw so I can't really say...

[@KatChats.]

Wow 5 different ways! Haha pretty neat! :D

[@TheKingaSwing]

I hope you're enjoying the uk so far! I love all of these, punctuality drives me crazy. Especially when people who are always late try and rush me even though I always get paranoid I'll be late and get ready way early for everything. I hold my pen using my middle finger but I've seen plenty hold it the same way as you. I don't recall ever seeing it be corrected by a teacher when I was at school (in the uk).

[@inievezi]

i had to go and grab a pen to look at how i hold it when i write, because is something i never thought of hahahaha I use my middle finger

[@ReederOnTheRun]

Same here!

[@Oillamp00]

Neus Iglésies Camprubí me too

[@robotsibyl]

I've started looking at videos about Finland after looking up lists of countries that were good places for introversion - it seems Finland is considered an introverted culture. That last point about how Finnish people don't interrupt seems to confirm that! Wow.. a country in which people actually *listen* to others, rather than assuming they know what a person is going to say or wanting to be the centre of attention (not negatively generalising all extroversion here).. Also it seems like there's such humility there (no bragging).. such a sign of intelligence.. It sounds. like. heaven.

[@AA-jk9dg]

As a Fin I can confirm your post, but I’m not sure we are that intelligent than others 😅

[@Catloves997]

As an American, I absolutely HATE it when someone shows up unannounced.

[@dontsmackyourscreenimnotar718]

Same here. If you show up unannounced, you're not getting in or you'll have to come back another time.

[@holoholopainen1627]

Ill being some pulla !

[@JohnWins]

Nice video, Kat! The ponctuallity is one of the most important thing for me, but in Brazil is really complicated, unfortunately :( Finns are an example of society in some of theses aspects that you said. Congrats for the video! Onnea, Kat!

[@KatChats.]

Thanks! And yeah I miss the super punctual attitude a little :D

[@sandrahenriksson6257]

Who uses their ring fingers to hold a pen? Six years of my life already (I'm twelve and Finnish, don't judge) I've held my pen with the middle finger, and if I see any other techniques that I've never heard of, I be like "Say WHAT" XD

[@akse]

Showing up unannounced used to be common in Finland up to about 95-2000 or something.. things changed a bit and you would always call and ask if it's ok to visit.

[@julkkis666]

you used to be able to go visit a neigbour. it changed in one generation.

[@martavibo]

The writing is related to what will determine your hand position so they wouldnt be crooked. Not only finnish people hold the pen like that, but most people do. It's to prevent your hands from hurting when youre older and reduce the cramps. They try to teach you as early as possible.

[@Milkjiest]

Vihaan ihan törkeesti sitä ku porukka keskeyttää jos ite puhuu :DD ja sit jos o just sanomas ite jottai vastauksena sil toisel ni se päättääki jatkaa sitä sen juttuu ::)))

[@torpmorp1324]

Before the cell phones became common it used to be ok to show up at your close friends and neighbors’ houses uninvited and unannounced in Finland too. :)

[@lyrasaph]

Mullaki se kynä lepää aina nimemttömän päällä :D mut mua ei kyl koskaan korjattu haha

[@hownice6120]

omgg this is such an interesting video! Sooo many videos I gotta watch from this channel 😂😂❤️❤️

[@Heldar1989]

they have some good manners in finland. example country.

[@StNickj]

well not really, we swear all the time

[@blackcoffeebeans6100]

@@StNickj Not everyone.

[@moisuomi]

@@blackcoffeebeans6100 You must live in the city. Go out into Karelia or Lapland and it will be different.

[@tukruperkele6036]

i hadn't really realised the dont interrupt thing, but that would explain why i never ever get to say anything in conversations (i'm finnish, but have been living in the uk for 13 years) or when it is my turn, it's waaay too late to say what i was going to say. also, i dont rest my pen on any fingers, i hold it with my thumb, index AND middle finger. i've always been told i hold it weird/wrong, but luckily i had nice teachers who didn't force me to do things "the right way".

[@aptand]

All of this applies to Sweden.

[@hiekkaroopi]

Such a sweet video. I'm a Finn and would like to add that because we take our shoes off we often wear woolen socks instead. Finnish people, young and old, love home made woolen socks! :D I'm sure most teachers will let you hold the pen any way you like or feel more comfortable with. Loved this video. I'm sure you'll do well in any country Kat :)

[@thesuomi8550]

With middle finger of course

[@stevo54838]

I must say, I like that last one about not interrupting someone who's talking.

[@josephmadrid3233]

Sounds very much like here in Norway. Thanks for sharing hehe

[@jakke9719]

The thing about visiting unannounced - like you said it's something your mother used to do, well, it's also something our parents used to do. In the countryside it's still normal, but that's a part of the culture that's changed very rapidly (with the development of technology that made announcing your arrival practical, I suppose).

[@MicaelaBicudo]

This all things is called being polite. In all europe people act like that, polite people. The oposite of that is rude. The eating think is just education of civilazation. I Europe we all comment the fact that people from the Us eat in a weird way like Hommo sapiens. " Way are they so lazy with hands?" lol Im portuguese btw sorry some grammar fails

[@Raamen123]

The thing about showing up unannounced at doors... it is only a thing back over like more than 18-20 years ago when people didn't have cellphones or internet to be able to send text messages to each other... because now it makes more sense to give people a heads up when they actually are able to.

[@justbenita]

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but you're supposed to say knife and fork, not fork and knife. Or is this just something I grew up with?

[@justbenita]

Also, my partner holds his pencil with his ring finger and was yelled at in school for writing 'the wrong way'. He's Australian.

[@Aurinkohirvi]

Strange teachers. It's writing, not thai-dancing. I can get it if they correct (really young kids) if you sit or stand in a bad position, as slouching isn't good for your spine or organs, but using another finger doesn't harm you one bit.

[@Max-The-Axe]

justbenita both I say fork and knife

[@MBFLA45]

Having lived in Miami for 30+ years I can really appreciate events, meetings, etc starting on time. Dealing with "Cuban time" ( which means being late for everything) was an ongoing source of aggravation.

[@Bisqwit]

8:24 RIP headphone users

[@KatChats.]

Sorry! :/

[@cocopeach21]

Thanks for the warning, I read it just in time!

[@rexhirvonen486]

Your Finnish? That's awesome I have spent about 13 years of my life and I'm about 3 quarters Finnish, just found you and you really inspire me to be a Finnish patriot... makes me happy...

[@KatChats.]

I am Finnish yes :)

[@gruuno]

Eating pizza and burgers with fork and knife? What kind of a mad man would do that. The only time i eat with fork and knife stuff like pizza or hamburgers is if they are super messy and hard to eat. Then i just find it easier to eat it like that.

[@jayb8369]

For your last point about being able to insert, or "squeeze" your thought into a conversation, the expression in American English, is called: "getting a word in edgewise."

[@probusexcogitatoris736]

Well, by holding the pen between your thumb and your index finger you get the most amount of control. Just watch a surgeon.

[@timbu1645]

Probus Excogitatoris mitä vittua

[@probusexcogitatoris736]

kusimuna_disliker:D saatana Ei vittu, sormet.

[@timbu1645]

Probus Excogitatoris ok

[@831Bars]

Greetings, I'm half Finnish born in Australia. It's nice finding other people on the internet who are also half Finnish. I look forward to watching more of your content.

[@KatChats.]

Hey! Thank you for your comment :) Nice seeing another half Finn here too!

[@KatrinBalmer]

finnland is so similar to switzerland. 😅

[@KatChats.]

Oh how cool! :D

[@cnano98]

I remember in my German 2 course we learned Swiss German and Austrian German and one of the things we learned about Switzerland is that they're really punctual and generally really mindful of etiquette. I think that's at least somewhat true for most European countries.

[@elkkyy5388]

no go away

[@taistelusammakko5088]

Finland is more cold

[@andydressler5495]

I enjoy and am finding the remarks of others here totally fascinating. I also appreciate that "most" are primarily honest and accepting, rather than condemning. One thing that I do find a little funny is a particular trait NOT necessarily specific to Finnish people, Scandinavians, or those from Nordic countries - but rather applies to nearly all of us. Its a bit humorous how our own perspective tends to cause us to believe that everyone else "see's what we see", "lives under the same conditions", perhaps even "experiencing the same weather" as each one of us are accustomed too. I understand that certain statements are not meant to at all be inflammatory such as "of course one would not want to track rocks or pebbles from one's shoes into a person's house"; This is simply a logical observation by one who likely lives in an environment that is commonly exposed to gravel or more rural conditions. Also, there is no doubt that those of you who live in a climate which is snowy and or wet for much of the year, it would seem very practical to remove one's shoes prior to coming into one's home. I happen to live in Florida, U.S. and snow simply doesn't exist here. Furthermore, outside of all our excessive paved areas such as streets, sidewalks, and paved driveways, most properties are covered by grass, thus it is extremely uncommon to find ourselves even able to track in snow, mud, pebbles, etc. Even the shoes we often wear (depending on whether working or leisure), often lack at form of "tread" or gaps for traction such as more rugged hiking type shoes or boots. Sure, we may get a good deal of rain from time to time but "culturally" nearly all homes here simply have absorbent door mats to wipe or dry one's shoes either outside in front of the door, and nearly always inside one's home. On the topic of spontaneously stopping by and visiting a friend, neighbor, or family member, I respect how it is largely "taboo" to do so by those in most Nordic countries. While certainly polite, I do not see that Americans share that same sense of "invasion of privacy" and I think this somehow goes back to a bit more of a "communal" perspective or attitude of openness. Having said that, I definitely would agree that it seems to me that our American culture has changed over the years, and become more "individual-centric", causing many of us (at least in large urban areas) to seemingly be less social. Some of this might have to do with people and families becoming more transient and moving more than past generations had, possibly to do with a greater integration of other cultures that some people here are less accustomed to (or sadly wary of), and quite possibly due to our own overly charged Capitalistic society where the ever increasing priority is the need to work longer and make more money, simply to possess the very things (homes, clothes, cars, etc) that were simply cheaper here many years ago. For those of you who are Finnish or perhaps from most other Nordic countries, I have to tell you though.... unless you've lived or visited any number of Latin countries (and i'm sure some others as well), it might shock you to know that in some places it is entirely common for neighbors or family to come unannounced to visit (within reasonable hours of course). Furthermore, they are commonly asked to come on in, share a drink, or to sit and join for dinner. In fact, not doing so is (culturally) even perceived as rude! Some of you not familiar with these other lifestyles might assume I'm exclusively referring to some tiny "3rd World " country or island, but that is not true. In fact for those that might not know, here in South Florida (Miami area), a large influx of our population has come here from Cuba, Puerto Rico, and countries from South America, and make up nearly 50% or more of our local population. As I grew up in that environment, I was very much exposed to there cultures and found it very interesting, different, inviting, and far more social than how most Americans typically live. Not necessarily better (or worse), just different. One thing i'm most fascinated by however, is how I understand that Finnish people (and perhaps most people from other Nordic nations), "speak".... not interrupting, and fully listening to the other before speaking. Growing up in the U.S., I recall that most Americans tended to be the same way (or at least for the most part). That has TOTALLY changed over time. Sure, there are those of us here that are patient, polite, and actually listen before replying, but this is becoming less and less common. While I think there is no excuse, our culture seems to have become so competitive, "self absorbed", and starved for spare time, that it just seems that most people have the need to quickly blurt out their point - as if there were some watch ticking allowing very very little time to communicate their point or message. I don't know what or why the cause is other than to guess its somehow related to population density, the need to achieve more in a decreasing span of time, and simply us seemingly living a life that on the outside must look like watching a colony of tiny ants whizzing around at a million miles an hour. I am dying to visit Norway, Sweden and Finland and look forward to "feeling" and seeing a very different culture in terms of how others communicate and just to take in the different vibe there. Of course, photos and video I've seen shows how stunningly beautiful it is there too. I was lucky enough to go to Iceland earlier this year and was blown away how different people and the culture there was. I've read how many Americans that traveled there thought Icelanders were "dry" and lacking emotion. Initially I felt this way as well but its all about perspective. ALL of us are very quick to make judgements about others and their lifestyles but that's just wrong. Sure anything different to what we are accustomed to may seem weird because it is just different from what we know or have been exposed too. That's the problem with the world though; its easier to quickly label others than take a little time to understand or listen to them. Sure, to you guys in Finland its an incorrect statement for a foreigner to say "those Scandinavian countries" because while you may be border and are close to Sweden or Norway, Finland is not Scandinavian. Here in the U.S., we're far far away. The farther away one is from a region, the less and less they know about it. Its easy for some (myself included) to make such a mistake. In fact, most people here would tend to think that those from Finland, Sweden, and Norway ALL look, act, and sound similar. I'm aware that there are some distinct cultural distinctions between people from these nations, but those differences are clearly minimal from many here in the U.S. with little or no knowledge or exposure to them. I really think all people need to appreciate those cultural distinctions between us and that make us different. These differences are largely a cause of our environment, our society, and how we each live our day to day lives. Maybe the biggest problem is that we either don't have the time or just don't care to take the time, but speaking for myself.... I love to see and experience how other cultures and lifestyles are different from my own. We all have to remember, each of our own lifestyle are not right or wrong - they're simply a pattern that people from different climates, regions, and cultures are used to and grew up with. Here in the U.S., most people have really become hardened and extremely opinionated - about everyone, everything, and about each other. I think that's really really sad. I also think that many here could stand to learn and appreciate aspects of what I understand are a more patient and reserved form of interaction and communication supposedly common to those from Finland (and perhaps other Nordic nationalities as well). I look forward to one day traveling there and see for myself!

[@andydressler5495]

By the way, I really did enjoy your video. Learning about other places and people just seems so much more "real" and interesting when its hearing it from another person and not just reading about it. By the way, the only thing I don't get is why everyone uses their same hand to use a fork. Aren't some people there simply "lefties" and others "righties"? Kind of like how some people write with their left hand and others with their right hand? Its interesting that in spite of Finish people being very independent minded, there are those particular customs that seem to defy that independent streak and appear oddly like a required cultural conformity.

[@KatChats.]

You bring up some very good points and I thoroughly enjoyed reading your thoughts. Thank you so much for sharing! I hope you get the chance to visit here sometime soon as well :)

[@qwertcvbnmm]

Great video, but the music at the end almost gave me a heart attack - it's so loud relatively to your voice.

[@KatChats.]

Sorry about that D:

[@oakstrong1]

I grew up in Finland and friends and family would always drop unannounced. I guess the custom has changed because of mobile phones and people being generally busier, that is, they aren't just hanging around at home after work so much. The "correct" way to hold a pen is pretty universal. Many books aimed at kids learning to write in UK show the same pencil grip. When I was in primary school each class would sit at a long table and the teacher would sit at the end, eating the same food and keeping an eye on our table manners. Any deviation from eating correctly with knife and fork was corrected immediately or and no slouching or hanging around unnecessarily was allowed. Cookery lessons were more involved about correct table manners, like serving and passing food and which cutlery to choose when there are several laid out - even what type of glass to choose for different wines, although it was only in theory as we were of course under age and at school... Until I changed school at fifth grade, I was forced to eat whatever was given, all of it! It was all nutritious, real food but I really struggled with some dishes.

[@ronjahollmen4203]

I rest it on my middle finger

[@jaskau2462]

You left a lot of "air" in your comment...You rest what? (curious like a little kid)

[@ronjahollmen4203]

JaskaU2 I rest my pens and pencils on my middle finger

[@elkkyy5388]

Ehe story doesn't tell what JaskaU2 thought about. We may never find out.

[@RoadRunnerMeep]

Awesome video, listening to your dos and donts just makes me understand why I love finland and its culture. That cat is beautiful :)

[@heidithechubbybunny8949]

jos mut keskeytetään niin en todellakaan muista ikinä mitä Olin sanomassa hashtag early dementia

[@Huonous]

My childhood home was quite messy, so we wore shoes inside. (Not sure how common this was/is in other Finnish families.) Maybe not always for the whole day, but we didn't have the habit of taking them off right away. Because socks would've gotten dirty, it was either the shoes or barefoot. It still feels weird to wear socks inside, so I'm usually barefooted. Sometimes I'm too lazy to take shoes off, so I may wear them inside for a while, until it becomes uncomfortable or my feet start to sweat.

[@mchl252]

I would feel right at home in Finland, or any other Nordic country, probably... :)

[@gianfrancow2850]

Situation: I went in the muddy, maybe shat by cows, wet terrain in the fields outside this finnish old couple guest's house. When I returned in the house after having just beaten my soles on the carpet, the old lady started saying some gibberish with lots of saints and perkele inside until I took away my hat, believing that was unrespectful to finns. After ten minutes that I believe she was having a heartbreak I understand She referred to my boots.

[@vanstockholm3712]

What about: Throat singing, horse archery, Tengriism, Genghis Khan and Mete Han?

[@CounterSipuli]

That meme is literally oldest and worst meme ever. What to expect from swedish kid using 4chan being edgy, and no I didn't trigger, I am just saying.

[@vanstockholm3712]

Jessur "I didn't trigger"

[@vanstockholm3712]

Jessur Poor Fingol ;(

[@SaltyWounds2882]

well meme'd *tips fedora*

[@vanstockholm3712]

Scott Gallagher *tips fedora* thanks m'lady

[@ArcaneConstruct]

Do's and Don'ts in - that list will always always always include take off your shoes in someone else's home. ***Edit: I finished watching the video, and I'd honestly agree the rest of the points should also kept in mind for most other countries. Especially points like "don't interrupt". That's not a cultural difference, that's just not being a jerk.

[@livviberg4974]

Don't speak Swedish in Finland lol

[@sakuwagtail8743]

depends on the city..

[@ecogamer9624]

im from finland and im finlands swedish mate wtf

[@coolfabba]

Tell it to residents in Luoto, Finland. There 92% of people speak Swedish, lol. Or in Korsnäs: 86%.

[@Urbaaniapina]

Ok wtf? Swedish is still the official second language in Finland, you should know that. But what draws way more attention is to speak russian in Finland!! Sweden is like the big brother to Fins, a love hate relationship. But ruskies, we hate em, we really do.

[@niklasgroning5792]

Hangö Svenskfinland!

[@mcbrian]

I notice a lot of parallels between Finland and Japan. Like punctuality, humbling oneself, taking off shoes before going indoors, always allowing others to finish before speaking etc

[@4drone606]

you met horrible teacher.... poor girl

[@sammalsikuri3828]

Olen molempikätinen, ja vasemmassa kädessä kynä lepää nimettömän päällä, kun taas oikeassa se vain tuntuu helpommalta pitää keskisormen päällä ^^ itse en muista onko meille opetettu eskarissa tai ala-asteen alussa mitään tiettyä tapaa pitää kynää, mutta kun yleensä piirrän/kirjoitan vasemmalla kädelläni niin otteeni vain tuntuu vakaammalta kun kynä lepää sen nimettömän päällä. Olen kyllä huomannut, että suurin osa oikeakätisistä tutuistani pitää sitä sen keskisormen päällä. Minulla on ihan sama juttu ton puhumisen kanssa, ja kun itse pidän paljon puhumisesta niin sitten se käy hieman ahdistavaksi kun ei löydä sitä sopivaa kohtaa jossa puhua ilman, että olisi epäkohtelias ja keskeyttäisi toisen. Siis olen huomannut tämän helposti, kun on jutellut yhdysvaltalaisten kanssa.

[@KatChats.]

ahh onpa mielenkiintoista!

[@marsua3684]

nimettömän päällä

[@TheStar7117]

The pen thing -New Zealander here that was taught the same thing. It's a steadier grip because the middle finger is stronger basically and therefore produces tidier handwriting

[@MuffinsCrib]

I can't understand how people can wear shoes indoors??? It's just so weird and disgusting, like, your feet are fermenting in those shoes all day long, give them some air and all the dirt will be transferred indoors. From what I have seen only americans do this and I assume from all these videos (that are about how to behave in [insert a country] most always have this in it) that they are pretty stubborn about this thing. End of rant. Thank you.

[@elimyers9413]

I'm American and I NEVER wear my shoes in the house. It drives me nuts when my friends don't take off their shoes. Being barefoot is much more comfortable in the house. Also, my grandma was from Norway so a lot of the stuff your talking about hits home for me!

[@kreykrey6488]

fin fisherman always catches the biggest fish of the lake, drink 500 beer cans a week and pulls 100 year old trees barehanded. it's called sisu. we NEVER brag bout it. still we FIN are best in the World!

[@elkkyy5388]

you just bragged about it. now our magic will be undone and we are just normal human beings.

[@ESUSAMEX]

I am an American from New York and for the most part it is ok to stop by a friend's home without calling if you live in the same town or near by. It is not ok to do it if you live far away. For example, I would never drive two hours to see my family or friends without first calling them. In my hometown, I could drive over and if my friend wasn't there, then I could return home without a problem or offence. I am never late and that is quite normal in New York. New Yorkers and most Americans hate to wait for others. The South, however, tends to be more laid back and loose with the start times.

[@topiesponja]

I'm from Mexico and i also rest my pens on my ring finger when i write. But i remember that in kindergarden we had these "training" erasers. We would stick a pencil through them and then to hold it in the "correct" way that you mention they were shaped in a certain way so the fingers would supposedly feel more comfortable. But as i said, it never worked with me either.