DO's And DONT's - Electric Car | Edd China

I’ve popped into Bosch to see what you can and can’t do and what specialist training and equipment you will need to tackle the high voltage bits of your modern motorcar.
Is it any different to servicing your ICE car or will it shock or maim you in some horrible high tech way?
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China relishes the upcoming project, which invites viewers into his personal workshop facility in Buckinghamshire.
“I’m really excited to finally be able to bring this project to our fans as it is something they repeatedly have been asking for,” said China. “Workshop Diaries will let viewers really get stuck into the project and the detail of the fixes, and also provide a platform for instant feedback and interaction. It’s an exciting prospect and it’s great to finally get going!”
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[@stuartf6385]

I was worried at the start that it was going to be just a Bosch advert however the second half was very interesting - never thought working on a hybrid was so dangerous!

[@liamhorn1150]

It’s dangerous alright I’ve worked on one never wanna work on one again

[@anthonycullen8596]

2022's best quote, " no one wants to be killed to death by a Prius"🤣🤣

[@jagboy69]

NO one wants to drive or admit they own a prius....

[@jagvette1]

Or drive one

[@alannock1358]

Fatally!

[@fritsified5952]

"killed to death fatally"

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Anyone driving a Prius is an uber driver until proven otherwise

[@bigyin.7710]

What's happening with the Range Rover, it's been months since the last video.

[@Jaydcoke]

I always enjoy Edd's videos but of late they have been too few and far between. I wish they were more regular than they are and of course there are so many projects we would like to have updates on.

[@jmonsted]

Did they actually give you the full course? That could make for some awesome content that's different from what most other youtube creators can do!

[@markdrury4287]

If they did that, DIYers wouldn't pay to do the course

[@MT_T991]

Imi are trying to license working on EVs. The level 3 course is pretty poor

[@timwickersham869]

not a fan of electric cars myself,,,personally speaking,,they are dangerous in more than a few ways,,look up lithium and water reactions,,,I'll take my chances in a good ol gas powered hot rod any day.

[@OaklynHall]

A very interesting video which taught me a lot. Thank you for sharing the knowledge with us. I wonder how many "home mechanics" are likely to be caught out by the dangers highlighted in this video?

[@TheRealWindlePoons]

Always familiarise yourself with safe working practices whatever you are working on. Plenty of dangers on an EV for the fearless dabbler.

[@KiwiHelpgeek]

Edd, you should have called the video "Will it kill you to death fatally?" And only 400v? Pffft! Try 25kv from an old CRT TV tripler. But yeah, the most dangerous part is the current. As little as 0.1 amps across the old ticker can kill you to death most fatally.

[@andy70d35]

Think Ill stick to ICE car, less hassle, and about half the price or more than an EV.

[@matthewhall4770]

Hi Edd. Great to see you back with more great content! Been missing your weekly episodes-are you planning to pick things back up regularly soon?

[@Dukefazon]

@Figment He's not a YTer, he's just on YT as well. Also, you should check his profile and social tab, he mentioned that they are taking a well deserved rest. It would be preferrable if he made it more clear but ohh well...

[@pjb5757]

Thanks Ed but I'd rather stick with my 4 stroke internal combustion engine.

[@lostcabrio]

Advert or not, I don’t mind. What’s annoying me is the stupid banner to like, subscribe, etc. Especially the clicking sound, I just miss 10 seconds of what Edd is telling us….. Please do not put this in any other video you make, thanks!

[@juancorigliano5414]

Edd comencé a seguirte ahora, te seguía desde el programa de tv, explicas bien y claro, saludos desde Buenos Aires Argentina !!!

[@elrobo3568]

II was a firefighter when the electric/ hybrid cars started hitting the roads. I got ahold of a video done by Toyota covering first responder safety during accident rescues. The bottom line is yes they can kill you of you come into contact with the high voltage components. There is supposed to be an automatic disconnect for the batteries after an accident however there are a number of failures with those. The recommendation was for first responders to wear "lineman's" safety gloves when using the jaws of life or a cutter incase the HV lines are cut into. Tere is a lot more in the course but yes they can be dangerous.

[@Darthadios]

A Prius ? The devil itself has seduced Edd.

[@luisdonoso1879]

Ed, extraordinary and very entertaining video, like everything you generate for us. I've always followed you, and I appreciate your work. Thank you very much..!

[@clarencesmith2305]

Please Edd China don't fall for the "green" bollocks because where does the power come from to charge the 100% EV cars? Oh that's right it comes from burning nat-gas or coal which are the two most common places to get electric power from.

[@peterjenkins8522]

You've not heard of Solar and wind power then!!!

[@clarencesmith2305]

@@peterjenkins8522 The wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine 24/7/365. So that leaves what? Oh that's right gas, coal, nuke power and those according to the tree huggers aren't green.

[@stefantrnacek1394]

I will just stick with my normal petrol car. No ev's for me.

[@davidcoates9123]

Mate cmon this is a BOSCH advert. Lets get back to the workshop.

[@steveosshenanigans]

Yup well said…….David

[@Makatea]

@@steveosshenanigans Hopefully Bosch paid a princely sum so Edd can continue to produce high-qualitiy, non advertorial workshop content...

[@valkhii]

Pretty sure they asked him to do this for a nice sum and it's not going to be what he does all the time. He is his own brand, he doesn't need Bosch. I personally enjoy all content he puts on or he is a part of :)

[@RjWolf3000]

He should at least start the video with a talk about how he is working with Bosch and be clear about what we are watching, clearly a training video they paid him to make.

[@jinto_reedwine]

I'm not a huge fan of ads either, but if it helps pay the bills for the normal content, I'm cool with it.

[@shazadbukhari7291]

What non sense is this? Get back and finish the Range Rover. We not interested in electric.

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

I do have a soft spot for Bosch because their only shareholder is a non-profit, charitable foundation. Instead of enriching shareholders and fund managers their profits go towards good causes. I like ZF for the same reason.

[@davehenry9995]

Just an fyi from a telecoms eng, 48v has a hell of a kick. But DC means you don’t get hooked up.

[@jagvette1]

Anyone that can afford electric car can afford to pay someone else to service it, get back to working on real cars

[@WhataTry]

Bosch, Bosch, oh and Bosch. Then there is of course Bosch . Shameful how far this channel has lowered its professional image.😢

[@eddchina]

It’s great to have a sponsor to help get this important message across

[@niacal4nia]

Thanks! That's why I'm keeping my ICE car. I know how to fix it.

[@Brian-om2hh]

But an EV, with around 30 moving parts, has considerably less chance of requiring fixing than an ICE car with over 2000 moving parts....... What isn't there can't break or wear out.

[@UnderwaterSable]

One shot cars of the future. You buy one of these and it'll end up bricked. In years to come these batteries will be piled miles high because there will be nowhere to dispose of them. Oh and well come back Edd.

[@eddchina]

Thanks, we could always recycle the lithium (there is a company in Cornwall who are already working on that)

[@Brian-om2hh]

So why wouldn't you recycle old EV batteries in places like Volkswagen's EV battery recycling plant in Zwickau, Eastern Germany, or Renault's EV battery recycling plant? Or why mightn't you use them for energy storage, like the huge Windfarm in South Wales, who use 300 old BMW i3 batteries in which to store excess energy? Or here's another suggestion. Do some research, and find out what *really* happens instead of making wild uninformed guesses.......

[@BlueJazzBoyNZ]

Edd China The Auto Jedi Master On point knowledge gained from every post / video

[@ashliehiggins]

You missed the part where you need a mate with a big stick to drag the corpse off of the high voltage parts, so the impatient customer can have their car back.

[@JohnDoe-mf1jy]

Never go electric boing but trouble and too expensive. Only idiots would buy one

[@silasmarner7586]

I don't watch advertorials. (sigh - ) next, please. To pharaphrase Bob Plant, "where's that confounded Land Rover!?"

[@MrGMawson2438]

Thanks Edd for teaching people 👍

[@A2Z1Two3]

There are huge amounts of emissions associated to making , charging , running and disposing of a Electric Vehicle . They are not emission free.

[@Brian-om2hh]

So how long does it take an ICE car to become emission free?

[@rubenmolnes]

Have KZbin removed the "Skip Ad" button? 16 minutes seems a bit overkill.

[@Peter_Riis_DK]

😅

[@johncastrission3986]

Ed what happened to the Land Rover? Can you pls crack on with that

[@eddchina]

Will do

[@bartoszk4812]

Very interesting video Edd! Looking forward though to what has been happening with a Land Rover 🤔😉

[@MrSychnant]

I can see a lot of fried back street cowboy mechanics in the future.

[@justme5384]

I wonder who's the sponsor of todays video 🤔

[@neils.5868]

Good news, there IS a (slightly more scary) future for home mechanics! With California's 2035 mandate for all new vehicle sales to be all-electric, I was worried our days would be numbered.

[@_dude..]

Lets not go to California. T’is a silly place.

[@neils.5868]

@@_dude.. It's a busy life-I'll have to charge my car-a-lot

[@TheRealWindlePoons]

@@_dude.. I have enjoyed all my business trips to California. I just wouldn't want to live there.

[@KingKoudi]

This video was just one big Bosch advertisment

[@denistate3697]

Edd please when are you going to fix the Land Rover ?

[@Christodoulos-J]

"stop burning hydrocarbons" - guess where the electricity comes from to charge electric cars? It's not all wind, solar and hydroelectric. In the UK, most recent numbers are 26.1%, 1.8% and 2.1% respectively. And that doesn't take into account how the windmills are made. Someday, maybe, but we're not there yet.

[@Thereishope664]

Jaguar wanted nearly £400 to service my 4 year old I-Pace. I looked at the job spec, it entailed changing the pollen filter, topping up the washer fluid and changing the brake fluid. Basically a rip off. The cabin filter I changed myself for £15, the washer fluid cost me £4.99 from Tesco for 5 litres, and the brake fluid change cost me £72 from my local garage. Total cost £91.99. With the £300 saving I'm going to Tenerife for a week!.

[@terryscully7389]

Where have you been Ed? It would be a nice touch to let us supporters know, if it’s personal no issues, we don’t need details just a statement 😔

[@knobrush]

From looking at the special handling precautions shown, I'm thinking garage labor rates will probably double.

[@jdretiree2433]

As will the number of inadequate mechanics.

[@daveevans4356]

Yep. Mechanics will have to do courses and purchase insulated tools, neither of which will be inexpensive

[@Brian-om2hh]

Not so. The first service on my Kia eNiro cost me less than £90. Both guys at my local (village) garage have been on the HEVRA course, and are certified to work on electric vehicles.

[@adamarmstrong438]

Basically working on EV completely sucks is my take away from this video. I guess the reasons I feel so negative are that I enjoy the mechanical side of conventional cars and EV are so boring!!!! The magic has just gone for me....

[@ivanm1018]

Speaking of environment there seems to be little mention generally where the content for EV batteries comes from (mining) and where used batteries need to go (landfill). How friendly then are they?

[@_dude..]

Or the child labour digging that lithium or cobalt out of the ground.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Only a complete bell-end would put old EV batteries in landfill. They're worth a small fortune to the energy industry, plus they can be 95% recycled, with the lithium and cobalt being 90% recovered to be reused in new batteries. It has been illegal for years to place *any* type of battery waste into landfill in either the UK or Europe. If you need examples of what the energy industry does with old EV batteries, you could look up the huge Sports Stadium in Utrecht, Holland, powered by 200 old Nissan Leaf batteries, charged via solar. Or there's the big windfarm in South Wales, which uses 300 old BMW i3 batteries for energy storage. It's a good thing the future of energy doesn't rely on people who would just bury old batteries, isn't it?

[@kevanchippindall-higgin1859]

The more I see and hear about battery powered cars, the sillier they become. I have every intention of keeping my ICE vehicles going. They are reliable, especially the completely mechanical 200 Tdi Discovery 1. This mad rush to battery power is going to end badly.

[@peterscott7384]

Glad I’m out of the game. Too old to worry about all that stuff nowadays. Good luck to the new generation of auto technicians.

[@meh3247]

I simply couldn't tolerate this ridiculous level of product placement. Best of luck Edward, I'm unsubscribing and hope you manage to get a more decent job soon.

[@eddchina]

Shame. I was hoping you might enjoy it and learn something anyway. We’ll miss you.

[@OpelpepePower]

Edd perfect work whit bosch ! I ♥️ engine diesel🛢 and gasoline ⛽

[@lennonwhitehead1352]

I just don’t understand why you would replace the eco wipers with the more expensive version. My work is making me do this too. Is is a Bosh thing?

[@DX5]

Very interesting. I laughed with those examples of what would be happening in case of the engine starting to spin while servicing :D

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

I don't know what was better. The insightful and instructional video or "The Edd China's a million ways to get killed to death fatally comedy show". Thanks for the upload, Edd.

[@Al3x1066]

Is the Range Rover project still happening, or is it just adverts now?

[@eddchina]

Just published a ‘Classic Filth’ episode which was all about the Rat Rover’s chassis and the next episode will be all about welding the chassis back to health…

[@ptonpc]

It might 'sound' like overkill but you just now that if someone is killed or injured doing this, it will be all over the media while people who are killed or injured on ICE vehicles will barely rate a mention in the local paper.

[@aylesburynumptydrivers9672]

But the manufacturer says you can't and you must do what they say lol. The ev mercedes has a bit in the manual saying it is forbidden for the owner to open the bonnet!

[@TheLewmen]

They will see the secrets

[@alsdouble]

This is very interesting. This video disappered and reappeared with a 'changed' title. Electric cars do appear to be - a real handful. No poking under the bonnet with a spanner eh, and a runny nose.

[@Smudgie]

Dear Edd, i have a question - I feel that there is too little information on such things as battery life and costs of replacement batteries on the EV Car market. I have been told that there are even a couple of manufacturers on the EU Market that don't even offer replacement batteries and sometimes it isn't even worth replacing batteries due to the high costs. Also things such as recycling costs and environmental costs are either not clear or even worrying. Could you please clarify or even do an episode on such uncertainties?

[@rknotz187]

Sounds like death trap

[@briancarno8837]

If you have to burn fossil fuels to make the electricity to charge an electric car.. how is it reducing greenhouse gases..?

[@trebor1973j]

Bullshit video profit making the 12 volt battery you fitted is not vented externally vented

[@kevinoxford74]

Are we gonna get back to weekly workshop diaries soon?

[@nodak81]

1:01 -- I'm sorry Edd, but did you just claim that hybrids are "simpler and have far fewer components in the engine bay"? My Prius has more crap under the hood than any other car I've ever owned.

[@cappaculla]

Killed to death is generally regarded as fatal 😂

[@gower1973]

Sounds like a load of fucking scaremongering to me, first rule of electrics is to make sure it’s disconnected

[@mikeybhoutex]

9:26 - Misspellings of both 'subscribe' and 'subscribed'. Missing the second 's' in each. Just tryin' to help, keep on keepin' on Edd!

[@t.robinson4774]

Still have a Chevy C10 that’d work well after an electric conversion.

[@ryanfriedrich7202]

Stop fibbing lots of miss leading going on here

[@ifoundmytv]

I've said it many times while working on cars.. "this would be a lot more fun if I had 2 pairs of gloves on and could feel absolutely nothing."

[@darylwalford8697]

Hi Edd, thanks for the very informative video which is timely because my friend just bought a new Hyundai Ioniq PHEV, we have well equipped workshop and normally service our own cars but the Ioniq will very likely be going to the dealer to be serviced especially since being "killed to death fatally" sounds particularly nasty.

[@neilsimpson79]

I'm going to the shop next week. Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Bosch, Boooossscchhhhhh.

[@ramonbritte8216]

Hola Excelente. Video y explicación...la verdad como siempre lo que enseñas y siempre vas avanzando así lo moderno en lo que está el mercado automotriz..gracias... desde quilmes desde América del Sur. Saludos 🤗 🤗

[@Daytonafox1]

Great awareness to the home mechanic. I didn't know the engine can just spin up like that. Thx Edd

[@EleanorPeterson]

Hi, Mark! Yep, it's no different from shoeing a carthorse in the olden days; important to remember to fill its nosebag with oats before starting work lest Old Ned throws a wobbler and kicks your head off... 🤭

[@TheEquationSlayer]

Seems extremely unlikely that the engine will randomly turn on if ignition is off. It’s not like Priuses are frequently turning on in the middle of the night. Disconnecting 12V is just good practice for certain jobs whether pure ICE or hybrid.

[@darylwalford8697]

@@TheEquationSlayer I've replaced front brake pads and rotors on an early Prius about 5yrs ago and I was warned to disconnect the 12v battery, can't remember the reason but seemed like a good idea at the time and we had no problems, looks like we avoided being "killed to death fatally" which sounds rather nasty🙂

[@fritsified5952]

It doesn't just turn on randomly. Just don't leave the ignition turned on.

[@fritsified5952]

@@darylwalford8697 That's because the brake system will pressurise itself when you open the drivers door. Makes for quite a mess if one of the calipers is hanging off on the side and somebody opens the drivers door.

[@johncoppock3823]

Note DC is more dangerous as it tends to make you clamp on, unlike AC which throws you off. Of course in these cars you will have both. Accident damage will be a tricky area and have to be left to specialists?

[@czaz00]

May I make an observation? Edd, you forgot to maintain the fan of the battery; it gets full of debris since it’s inside the cabin by the passenger side... I enjoy watching your films learn a lot thank you

[@eddchina]

Good tip, thanks, something to look out for next time!

[@TimPaddy]

Changing wipers? Boooooooo

[@polestar1265]

I remember when Prius came on market i work at Toyota that time. Blow in gloves and take away security switch was something i never forget.😃

[@neiltong7291]

Hi Ed, did EV1 a couple of weeks ago, learnt the new ways a car can kill you! I will be off to take EV2 shortly!

[@usuallyfixingtinkering]

no wonder hybrids and electric cars are so expensive the amount of safety devices on these cars to prevent a dangerous accident is something else. I can't help feeling your back street garage will suffer when these are the only cars on the road virtually in 10-15 years, the amount of PPE equipment before they've even touched the vehicle!

[@d1v1s1onby0]

Like in the good old days of the 9v pp3 you can test the charge by placing your tongue across the terminals. Disclaimer - this is a joke, do not lick your EV battery

[@eddchina]

No that really will be a deathly sting

[@nickpapadatos5263]

Every morning I watch wheelers dealers in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺.miss your knowledge 🇦🇺🔥👍

[@alhit007]

Who’s the main sponsor?? Hmmmm Bosch maybe? 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@GreenPlasticWaterCan]

Hi Edd, As a trained HV mechanic and designer of an electric conversion kit for a specific vehicle, I'm having some trouble with your video. For servicing the engine and brakes it's absolutely not necessary to place the HV battery in a safe mode. Removing the key, and maybe disconnecting the 12Vdc battery will de-energize the contractors and therefor isolate the HV battery. When do you need to put the HV Battery in a safe condition: when working on HV components, cabling or working in close proximity to these parts. This last item might be a reason to disconnect the HV Batt during service, but in my opinion it's a bit overdoing it.

[@Cheapsh0t247]

sorry if this is a dumb question (I am not a mechanical or electrical wiz), but when the capacitors discharge where does the electricity go, has the vehicle been earthed earlier in the procedure?

[@wegmandan]

It's great to see you again Edd.

[@michaelblacktree]

Death by Prius would be a pretty embarrassing way to go.

[@carkotta]

Must buy Bosch 😳🧟‍♂️🧠🤤

[@oriolgonzalez9328]

Goddamnit Edd, you just made me watch an ad for Bosch and somehow made me learn something and enjoy it as well! You sneaky bastard!

[@nigelwilliams3574]

that bosch tester is nothing more than a megger 410 415 i use them to check insulation on cranes and probably half the price too

[@mbak7801]

I build valve amps and repair valve radios as a hobby. Great fun. The one hand behind your back is par for the course as 1200v AC is often exposed inside the equipment. If you are very careful it is safe though I have been bitten in the past. Only by about 200v but that was scary enough.

[@TheRealWindlePoons]

Good advice. I do the valve thing too. I once accidentally brushed against the DC link of an industrial inverter. That's 3-phase mains, rectified (about 600V DC). It pulled a muscle in my wrist that ached for over a week - and that was a very lucky escape.

[@parrotraiser6541]

The case for having nothing to do with any 21st. century vehicle gets stronger every day.

[@Phiyedough]

Having seen so many photos of burnt out wrecks it seems quite possible your EV will kill or maim you when it decides to spontaneously combust!

[@eddchina]

They tend to do that less often than ICE cars!

[@Brian-om2hh]

Nonsense. Around 160'000 ICE cars catch fire each year in the US. Statistics show that there are 3 EV fires per 100'000 electric cars.

[@Laugh1ngboy]

The problem with servicing EV's is the anti repair mentality of the people that build them.

[@eddchina]

No different to the same people making ice cars. Definitely an way of thinking that needs to change!

[@Laugh1ngboy]

@@eddchina I absolutely agree. I miss the days you could buy shop manuals for your car.

[@will24655]

It's like working with one hand tied behind your back.

[@tackleberry357]

Hi Edd I'm really glad you're back however not only are there huge holes in the planet where the materials to manufacture the batteries come from they then have to be transported by diesel and fuel oil vehicles to the factories, the are then manufactured using electric produced by burning gas they then need transported to the huge car factories where once again the electricity is produced by burning gas, they then have to be transported to the dealers by yes you've guessed it vehicles burning diesel and then when they finally get to the customer they are then charged with electricity generated by burning gas or nuclear power stations!!!

[@eddchina]

Or they could power all the trains and trucks by electricity made by renewables and things would be a lot better and we would have a cleaner future.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Pete, you need to remember that the oil companies have also made huge holes in the ground for literally decades, mining for cobalt, which they use to remove sulphur during the refining process. The oil industry are the largest users of mined minerals on the planet. You also overlooked the bit where - after a while - older EV batteries can be 95% recycled, with most of the lithium and cobalt within them being returned to the manufacturing stream to be reused in new batteries. Can you show me a gallon of recycled petrol or diesel?

[@Qspecialman]

A very interesting video Edd. Never thought about how evil a little EV can be!!!! It is bad enough the thought of owning one, let alone working on it. "no one wants to be killed by a Prius" That is a classic!!!!

[@strokenumber3]

And there we all were thinking, "Great, electric cars are going to be much cheaper to service and maintain".

[@robertmedina6875]

Awesome content Ed! Thank your for these videos!!!!

[@vaux_wolf4281]

Remind me again what parts he was using 😂

[@diesel508]

This is the most erratic bumblefk vid on yt