Do the Patriots have to sell themselves to Mike Vrabel?

[@JomommaBEESKY]

Phil Perry the best Pats reporter bar none.

[@Vaihinger]

He really is. More and more Curran just shills for the owners and, until the firing, for his pal Jerrod. It's embarrassing.

[@Frank-r1j]

Curran should have been fired with Belichick. Phil puts in alot more time and effort than Curran. His Pats sources are reliable and they trust him.

[@wheel_gun]

Many are saying.

[@michaellalli7693]

Phil does the best college draft series of podcasts prior to the April draft. Phil’s projections are outstanding!

[@drew3354]

Phil was 100% right about Caleb Williams. Great reporter . Blessed to have him for us NE

[@ryantaylor6706]

What did he say?

[@arnelindberg7915]

The dude was not even close with his Caleb comments It does not matter that many in NE believe Maye is the better candidate. What matters if Vrable thinks Caleb or Trevor are also talented QBs. I can tell you for sure that there is still tons of faith in Caleb throughout the league. NE might have the edge but not because of QB. It is because of front office and history with team. NE is picking first for a reason and that matters.

[@mikeisberg3445]

@@arnelindberg7915Picking 4th. (Pats)

[@CoryD_85]

​@arnelindberg7915 actually NE has the edge with Drake Maye he scores 20 points a game they haven't been like that in along time. There's a big difference when Brissett is in, he barely scores 6 points a game.

[@CoryD_85]

​Drake Maye developed real well and is a very fast learner and is willing to adapt. Can't say that about Caleb.

[@toddtownsend1079]

When McDaniels says to Maye, "this is calculus", Maye is going to get it.

[@DJ-op6jt]

Just give him his desired salary, full control to choose his GM, which means he gets to have his own coordinators, and Bam !! its a done deal.

[@short_kingzz]

Thanks coach you got it all fugured out 👍🏽

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

WHY is no one talking about Joe Brady for HC? (Bills OC now) In college, Brady launched Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, and JaMarr Chase. Brady was there for one season. The season before, Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson were pretty average.

[@black_dog_barks]

Vrabel will be 1,000 times better then Mayo... take it to the bank.

[@chompinatthebit6287]

Thank you Tom for going against the sham process narrative

[@bendavid8463]

Has anyone on the beat tried to find out from Leftwich or Hamilton how their interviews went?

[@ChadwickO2004]

lol how do you think? Like Massachusetts as a whole, they interviewed two ppl based on their race in the name of “equality”, but didn’t actually take them serious.

[@viewzfromthesestreets7123]

Ben Johnson would be the best option since we need for Maye and Milton to progress as quick as possible. Mayo held both our rookie QB's back. He also could've used Milton for certain plays like design QB runs. To be honest imo Milton is more NFL ready nrite now then Maye is. That 2 year age difference is probably why. Milton has way better foot work, ball placement and can run without fear of him getting hurt. We can't do that with Maye because of his Jimmy Garropollo frame. Only a mattern of time before he gets imjured. Which is why you don't trade Milton.

[@edbrit4893]

Biggest concern with McDaniels is his system has NEVER been WR friendly. Even experienced pros have failed to understand and excel in it. NO THANK YOU!! WR development is a critical flaw for this team.

[@Griswolddj]

@@edbrit4893 no it’s not, our wide receivers don’t have time to create separation with our oline crumbling and getting our rookie qb killed, pop Douglas, and boutte showed promise this season, baker and Polk could progress and Bourne had 800 yards w McDaniels

[@obsessedoutwest1370]

Tom and Phil, had there been any news of Gruden being interested? Leader and offensive minded? Could be a great combo for the team

[@Brady6xPats]

Yea no

[@iiTsFaded_]

Gruden would be too busy commenting about our black receivers lips to actually do anything useful

[@tubopedia]

Very different Kendrick Bourne in his first season with us. Jakobi > pop, Agholor and boutte are about the same at taking the top off.

[@ironPatriots48]

If they are not planning on keeping the man that did a great job developing Maye ( AVP), then they better make sure it's going to be an OC that is going to hang around for Drake's future and not have him trying to learn his 3rd damn OC by 2026. And by the way PHIL, who the fk are you to say someone is not fit to be a HC?! The only ones that know who fits these roles are the people sitting in that room doing the interviews.

[@michaelclement1529]

Ironpatriots and even then they don’t even make the correct call lol

[@ironPatriots48]

@michaelclement1529 🙄

[@DJ-op6jt]

Lets face it Vrabel has a lot of leverage. Manufactured or not. there is a belief out there that Patriots would not have fired Mayo, unless the Pats were not very confident that Mike Vrabel would take the job,. (I don't buy/believe that by the way). Which means if Vrabel chooses another team which is willing to give him his GM of choice etc etc., the media pundits will proclaim " Its a disaster Vrabel is not coming to NE, how did the Krafts not think this through !!" If Vrabel insists on having the GM of his choice and giving Wolf some other title, Pats will have to give him what he wants.

[@wheels351972]

I apologize in advance I haven't read all the comments but to phil Perry, Tommy Rees was also a quarterback also for Notre Dame. So my question who was his OC @ ND back when he was QB'ing? If it was a west coast offensive minded OC then by all means grab Tommy Rees. As phil said West Coast offense have different lingo but it still a west coast offense and to Tom Curran like you said someone said to you this morning the last thing you wanna do is change things up for Drake. If what AVP ran was a West Coast offense then you bring in a West Coast O.C. Just my opinion

[@countlesskicks5671]

Perry is the GOAT reporter

[@EastsideMoralesTV]

Suggesting McDaniels for OC is insane. Move on. I’d rather roll the dice with Ben Johnson. At least that would send the message that Drake is the priority

[@mikeramos6272]

NO QB, and they traded away their best receiver for a bag of peanuts. Basically, they were the Patriots.

[@billshun3963]

Not another defense background HC please!

[@obarbeito]

Then the league should change the rule to not be able to hire a coach unti FEb 15, after the SB...

[@Gbird71]

Fans don’t want a boring offense. The game has changed. Need to put up points.

[@backbay2242]

Is it time to maybe look outside the family?

[@mikechan231]

Teams should be able to go after whoever they want. Rooney Rule means well but it’s stupid. I was split between Ben Johnson and Vrable, but now I think it’s definitely Vrable. This organization is so broken, it’s a better choice to pick the guy that has more experience as an HC. I love the offensive genius that Johnson brings but I don’t think this team is ready for that, meaning the personnel is years away from being about to take advantage of an advantage scheme. In the meantime, the organization needs repair.

[@viewzfromthesestreets7123]

I'm so sick of Sports being mixed with politics. You think this is helping Black coaches? No it's not. Because now owners won't hire a blk head coaches because anything they say or do to hold them accountable, is labled racism. When Kraft made Mayo the youngest Blk ex-player ever hired and yet some how he's still racist? 🙄 Exactly why owners will stay away from blk hires.

[@TNSwithScubaSteve]

16:46 no the rule is used so they have to interview black coaches. Whats the point of exposure interviewing for a team that's bottom of the league

[@MattMooresEyebrows]

The title implies that Vrable will be taking a lot of ass

[@gabrielcruces370]

What about Pete Carrol

[@jacobhughes9010]

The goal should be either Vrabel and McDaniels Or Ben Johnson and Lou anaromo

[@losmontana978]

Tom you can't be serious with the coverage about the sham interviews! The Krafts checked the " Bring some Black guys in" for interviews box, come on Tom, you're part of the problem when it comes to calling it what it is. Vrabel is there guy and I hope just because the way this was handled, which was brutal to watch, that he goes to another team. GOD don't like ugly

[@drew3354]

Hire Vrabel

[@PatchesMalone]

Absolutely. Let him build the staff he wants, and input on Draft and free agents KRAFT FAMILY must understand this a new age, and they are going to have to spend some money going forward!!!!!

[@noooodIe]

Vrabel isn’t good at building staff and the track record on draft is pretty bad

[@PatchesMalone]

@noooodIe that was in part why he was ousted from Titans. Him and GM butted heads because his say in the matter was limited! I mean look, they traded AJ Brown away in favor of a bust. Krafts MUST give him room to work, or the coaching carousel will continue

[@ubtrippin9980]

Have no qualms or trepidations.

[@lawrenceterrell8471]

Hmmm I think Wolf needs to go they gave him the Mayo treatment giving him a position he never earned or prove he knew what he was doing you need someone in there who knows what they are doing both the front office and the Coach staff change need to be made for anyone to take them seriously this falls on the Kraft's they create a mess which is only gonna take longer to clean

[@michaelfang1393]

Better get Vrabel because Brady might try to lure him to Raiders

[@christenvincent2061]

If we can’t gat vrabel get Ben Johnson.

[@Racex777]

The patriots need to get back to the patriot way

[@short_kingzz]

You guys just all want him to be Bill belichick. Let's be honest

[@arnelindberg7915]

How arrogant to say Williams is not nearly as good as May. To say Williams is not mentally tough. Do these guys even watch teams other than the Patriots?

[@KozyKool2287]

Williams played on a loaded USC team then had the most loaded offense the league has ever seen for a rookie QB. Chicago set him up for success, But coming into the season, I don't think anyone thought that the NFC North will be this good. It's the most stacked division we've seen in a long time. Three of those teams can make the Super Bowl.

[@CoryD_85]

@@arnelindberg7915 dude you own knee pads for Caleb 😆 🤣

[@arnelindberg7915]

@@KozyKool2287 I do not disagree Maye did well this year. He did. But to say he is slam dunk in a class above Williams or Trevor and that in itself would sway Vrable to Patriots, is just not reality. Listen to what Ben Johnson and Pete Carol had to say about Caleb. Should Vrable think that much different? Very disappointed in the knowledge depth of this NBC podcaster. It's a homey podcast.

[@Gbird71]

Sorry but Bourne needs to go and Stevenson. Spend the money.

[@social-ish]

McDaniels stinks

[@JoeBrody-v5v]

Yes they do. The place is a mess. The football operations infrastructure is 20 years behind the times and can't compete with top tier teams in the league. It's understaffed and the facilities are antiquated. Yes, I have trepidation. Quit hiring familiarity and really do a search.

[@josephkelley8634]

A HC is a CEO and who knows if Ben Johnson will bea good CEO

[@johnmeleleu1813]

Josh McDaniel will leave after 1 year. He wants to be a head coach.

[@obarbeito]

Guys, stop living in the past and trying to re-live past glories. Time to create new ones, with a HC with a new vision, new blood, expert in analytics and offense and the ways the new NFL works. Not someone who had to go to Cleveland to learn those things. Cleveland! Since when do we aspire to be like the Browns! Hire Ben Johnson

[@PeterMolina-l9i]

Completely agree. What if we hire Vrabel and he wins 5 or 6 games, are fans going to be calling for a new coach again?

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

@@PeterMolina-l9i yes

[@paulmann5328]

​@PeterMolina-l9i they're gonna say give him time lol

[@enriquevazquez9913]

But it’s not only the patriots that have to wait to interview the coaches under contract it’s every team so why do we have so much urgency to sign vrabel when no other team is

[@filipvojvodic]

what a hypocrites, vrabel offense in his last year with de andre and king henry is same as mayos with noone))) not to mention that it was his fifth season so he made that team...and here comes savior. tavai is right on the mark.

[@josephconway1968]

All the Rooney rule did was swing the pendulum. I didn't get the job cuz I'm black to I got the job cuz I'm black. They continue to say Belichick is the greatest ever. Not after Brady left. The NFL has always been about results. You don't win, you're gone! Color doesn't matter! Parcells, Jimmy Johnson etc. have all faced a time when it was over. And the reason was more about results than color!! End Of Story!!

[@Ders_Island]

Acting like Pep and Leftwich are serious interviews is a ROUGH look

[@SSalzillo1961]

Curran ain’t too smart

[@SkeletorsSon]

All this hiring buddies BS is why the franchise is in the dump, keep it up I'll be around to say i told you so just like the ppl who said Mayo would be a disaster.

[@peteralcantara5669]

Ben Johnson

[@Griswolddj]

He’s not coming here bro😂

[@jaisriram295]

​@@GriswolddjHe would and they should hire him if they wanna move win a SB in the next 5 years

[@emmanuelcalderon1982]

​@@jaisriram295you're delusional if you Ben Johnson wants to coach the Patriots 😂

[@billnoi]

A rookie HC walking into this awful situation. Yea, great idea. No, you need an experienced coach at the moment.

[@BeanTownBurrs]

For SA. Johnson is getting a virtual interview, not in person. Doubt that leads to him being hired. If anything, they pick his brain on offensive philosophy, poach some of his ideas and say "thanks for that"

[@petermarshall6577]

Back biting is more like rationalization on Mayo's firing to me.

[@dwayneroberts6616]

Why is everyone so sold on Vrabel? My god Mayo was so bad people are thinking Vrabel is great. He's a 500 coach for two years and failed his last two years before getting fired. "Come on man" give up trying to run BB football without BB! We need a fresh start with a coach that is offensive minded and not from the BB coaching tree. We need Ben Johnson whose entire career has been spent developing offensive players. He's proven he can rebuild and make an offense competitive in today's NFL. Give Ben a chance he's 10 times more qualified than Mayo was and he's better for Drake Maye. Do we really want Mc Daniels back with his over complicated schemes and short passing game that everyone knows he's going to do. Let's start fresh with a coach that's with the times and players want to play for. No one wants to play for a hard azz coach anymore.

[@casablanca2745]

I like Johnson as well but concerned about bringing in another first time HC. And Johnson has arguably the best O-line in the NFL and true weapons at receiver and RB. Players can make geniuses out of coaches and sometimes vice versa. Interview him and see how it goes

[@noooodIe]

My brother is Christ VRABEL ISNT FROM THE BB COACHING TREE people so uneducated lmfao

[@richschneiderman613]

Bro he took a titans team with a million injuries to a #1 seed and also whooped Brady n belichick in foxboro in the wild card round ...also he's not from bills tree he played for bill but has his own style he's definitely not a soft players coach his players will respect him unlike mayo trying to win a popularity contest dosent win You games

[@stuffedcrustpizza]

Lol they really think drake maye is more attractive for the job than caleb 😂

[@paulmann5328]

Probably because Maye is younger

[@noooodIe]

Yea nobody wants to watch Caleb throw dirt balls on 3 yard in-routes

[@bradleyadames4186]

I mean Maye is younger and performed better without weapons 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@JohnCutajarDynamicBeliefs]

Bears qb is better overall

[@eddiecollins9212]

Based off this year, absolutely not

[@bradleyadames4186]

Caleb is supposed to have a higher ceiling but Drake looked better this year without the weapons that Caleb has

[@DianeGornicki-1967]

Mike is taking credit for California burning no matter what , because I haven't been paid.

[@jordanchaston8842]

Listen why aren't we talking about drafting Ashton jeantry.. we need a quality fkn running back that can take pressure of drake maye.

[@DianeGornicki-1967]

I want two billion dollars from the US government, and or ten billion dollars from the summits. They had never been an argument. If I have to say Harry belefonte......

[@Slb5988]

Ben Johnson