Do You Agree With The NFL Banning The Hip-Drop Tackle? | 3/25/24

Dan Patrick reacts to the NFL banning the hip-drop tackle and what it means for defensive players going forward

[@erik22lax]

they want the NBA all scoring no defense

[@toby2581]

Which is bizarre because the NBA has lost so much of its audience over the last 20 years. Why would you emulate failure?

[@robertthomas1286]

And the NBA is crap because of it.

[@joeheasley8046]

And it’ll collapse like the nba. Only thing keeping ratings high is fantasy football and gambling. If those weren’t rd ratings would be down.

[@20Schmidt]

Scoring generally attracts the casuals...goes for all sports (more scoring without much dead time)

[@JojoCano-ix9cu]

I can't remember the last NBA game I watched...it's Total horse shit...

[@SoupySpiritGX]

NFL truly will stand for the NO FUN LEAGUE

[@20Schmidt]

Preventing injuries is a priority. Very tough to be a defensive player in modern game.

[@SoupySpiritGX]

@@20Schmidt Player safety to a detriment to the game. It's a reactionary move to just a couple injuries here and there.

[@TraumaCenter13]

I can't wait to watch flag football in a few years. The league is a joke now.

[@HardRockMaster7577]

Flag football and foam helmets. Hooters League.

[@robertmunozjr1585]

It's going that direction... then soon it will be a men & women players in the nfl making the 53 men/women roster its pathetic... I can see it now from calling it the 53 man roster to 53 human roster 😡

[@ElSantoLuchador]

Professional flag football is actually pretty cool. The air game is insane.

[@Mrcharles.]

Football has become soft. It’s only going to hurt themselves if they implement this rule.

[@sh-db3fu]

Like he said no more stars on defense. I'm done watching it. I almost gave up on watching FootBall after the leading with your helmet rule. This one is over the top

[@nadrojekrubify]

Am I the only one that feels like baseball surprisingly is the only sport that has made positive rule changes that improve the game. Nfl is going to turn into the NBA where there is no defense because it's just too hard to defend with the rules

[@bradmiller9121]

Was thinking exactly the same thing.

[@Vic-Vega]

The pitch-clock is among the worst professional sports rule changes ever made. It's completely antithetical to what makes baseball baseball.

[@azb2605]

@@Vic-Vega majority of fans disagree with your opinion. Pretending you have something in your eye in between each pitch, is not what makes baseball, baseball.

[@Vic-Vega]

@@azb2605No, but at its heart baseball is an untimed sport. That much is absolutely irrefutable. Casuals only like it because they're easily bored by a sport they don't understand. 🤡

[@irvinglambert9316]

Baseball has also removed physicality. Can't break up double plays or charge catchers anymore. There's controversy over universal DH. The rule changes last year were excellent, though.

[@nooneelsehasthisuser]

The defensive players should all go on strike until the rule changes😅

[@20Schmidt]

lol

[@davidhoialmen7398]

Why do y’all want it to be legal? I get that football is a physical sport but it’s also about money. If players are getting hurt constantly in the same spot from a specific tackle feel like it should probably be banned lmao

[@Reflextive7034]

​@@davidhoialmen7398 players injuries will always happen and if you make it a soft sport just do flag football, with the way the NFL is going I hope ufl takes over

[@davidhoialmen7398]

@@Reflextive7034 right but this is happening repeatedly from the same type of tackle and and injuring the same spot on the players. That’s something you can get rid of. Iv never even heard of this type of tackle. If they’re not teaching it in Highschool or college ball then clearly it’s not needed. Injuries wil always happen in football and most of em you can prevent. This injury seems like you can prevent it by just making the players tackle the right way. Idk just my opinion

[@davidhoialmen7398]

@@Reflextive7034 can’t* prevent

[@Trenton_Amani]

So they banned the Hip-Drop Tackle but yet keeping Turf fields smh

[@braves4life25]

Grass costs too much $$$

[@Trenton_Amani]

@@braves4life25 they should be more concerned about the money they lose from losing their star players , players .. no matter what they pulled of mostly grass fields in the past they definitely can revert back to it

[@demitriuswilliams4729]

I can't stand field turf, regular grass should be on all football fields from pop Warner to pros💪🏽

[@DocGMoney]

Lost my big toe to turf. Fully agree I think grass would be safer for player health 1000%

[@travisnelson1689]

The RB comparison was spot on.. and a defender will try to go low.. you have to look at your target so you dip your head to go low and the RB lowers their head and its helmet to helmet and they get rewarded.. All this will one day catch up with the game and the viewership and value will drop.. it will be a while because people love to watch and hope to get the product we have come to love.. and sports betting being available everywhere now will help keep it popular.. but eventually ppl will not like this product as much.. NFL has forgotten what has gotten them to the point of being so popular.. ITS FOOTBALL!! ppl get hurt and they get rewarded very well for the risk they take to play the game.

[@SuperMogul]

That's rigging the game. If your using rules to increase scoring.

[@1solosoldier]

The league is rigged already. That's what producers do. Storyline Entertainment seems to be a thing nowadays. They put makeup on these tough guys, then tell them what to say and do. Very little is natural now. From teams to the up aboves, watch film to understand what the other competitors are going to do. That's how the ml and prop betts come about. Somewhere there's a giant computer that records game analysis that averages out points and spreads against everything that's called a sport..

[@GoDawgs809]

They’re probably also trying to prevent lawsuits

[@Stucknthe80z]

They keep chipping away and sooner or later your fan base will leave

[@drexlspivey3047]

Yeah right. Highest ratings ever.

[@kevinbond8966]

​@@drexlspivey3047 they are replacing loyal fans with casuals. Casuals won't stick around long term. NFL is top dog now but things like this will hurt them long term.

[@Stucknthe80z]

@@drexlspivey3047 smooth 🧠

[@tino6846]

@@drexlspivey3047We will see in a few years

[@fabolousjada5070]

@@kevinbond8966fact

[@Bumjuice42]

I give it 5 more years till the rules have gone so far that woman will be able to compete.

[@seanobrien6249]

It will be in two years, if not next year!! Banning this tackle is pretty much banning tackling in general, the refs have no clue how to officiate anything, this will make it 100x more difficult!!! This is on purpose, owners don’t want to pay high premium insurance policy’s and don’t want any part in pensions or guaranteed contracts players getting hurt!! Every rule is done on purpose, and it only benefits owners and goodel!! Betting is also a major issue!!

[@janicec1948]

Hmmmm maybe that's what's goin on🤔

[@A.Musing.Streamer]

Ball Carriers "Fight for those Yards that cause those Injuries"

[@stingrey1571]

the hardest job in sports isnt quarterback. it is playing defense in the nfl. what you did yesterday will be illegal today. what you do today will be illegal tomorrow.

[@PaceFootball]

More specifically playing DB. Can't touch WR after 5 yards, can hit high, can't hit low, can't wrap around the waist and use your 180lb body weight to slow down a 250lb freight train. Sheesh

[@Mrcharles.]

Goodell made the game soft. There needs to be new leadership for the NFL to be tough because football is a physical sport, fans love that violence. It’s why it’s Americas favorite sport.

[@stingrey1571]

@@Mrcharles. it’s America’s favorite sport because of gambling

[@allenboyer2207]

When I played the game, and you're running at full steam chasing and reaching for a guy, you're thinking about a tackle, not how you do it. Geez. Asking too much of players.

[@drexlspivey3047]

That's why you aren't a professional. Players will adjust.

[@tino6846]

@@drexlspivey3047You are a typical casual

[@marquesmurray]

Just like they adjusted to sacks and kickoffs? Not doing it, making the game boring? Fantastic

[@Mrcharles.]

Some of us fans, like to see that strong defense and hard hits. The harder the hit, the better the game is. Yeah I’m all for safety but it’s something those players sign up for and that’s the life they take.

[@jracer7189]

@@drexlspivey3047you’ve never played full contact football and it shows

[@SoupySpiritGX]

Hockey and baseball for now on for me.

[@loC2ol]

This is the way

[@mbwell]

For me it’s 1. Basketball 2. Championship Boxing 3. Summer Olympics

[@PAPABRAY619]

Everyone is falling for the "player safety" smokescreen. Just like the NFL wants you too. This is about raising the points totals in games. The scoring has been getting lower and lower over the past 5 years which affects viewership numbers. These kinds of rules that limit the defenses ability to stop the offense are strategic. The harder it is to stop the offense the more the offense scores. Simple. I'm the first person to say this anywhere on the internet!!!!!!!

[@azb2605]

You’ve got part of it right, personal opinion is that’s the smaller part of it. The larger part is being able to control games better. Another “discretionary” call available to them. Probably not reviewable either.

[@braves4life25]

They saw the viewership of the chiefs rams game back in 2019 they saw that high score and people still talk about it., higher score = higher ratings

[@jizzyjake6783]

Last year was the 2nd highest viewership on record

[@junahn1907]

If this is implemented and enforced, the Ravens are going to sleepwalk their way to a Super Bowl on the back of Derrick Henry breaking the single season rushing record.

[@baylorbear0358]

So the NFL just banned gravity?!

[@alexamerling79]

Teams might as well just draft offense from now on.

[@jamminfreedom2413]

Defenses of team should strike because this is a BS rule.

[@primemover1416]

Breaking News: Following the lead of the NFL, Major League Baseball in 2025 will be removing the shortshop and centerfielder as defensive positions.

[@mickylawless1941]

I haven’t watched a full nfl game in years. They’ve made defenses bland. Might as well as make it flag football.

[@mikebloise471]

NFL Players will start wearing tin foil hats for safety?! ...South Park : Sarcastaball Episode

[@codymcguire1195]

I am against the rule as much as the next guy, but verbage is important. "Landing on dudes legs" are what's gunna pull the flag. Spread the word.

[@sloanNYC]

It isn't a normal tackle. The defender has to really try to do it intentionally. They are twisting and swinging their body into the back of the legs while having them wrapped up around the hips. It's like going for a knee. ARTICLE 18. HIP-DROP TACKLE. It is a foul if a player uses the following technique to bring a runner to the ground: (a) grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms; AND (b) unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body, landing on and trapping the runner's leg(s) at or below the knee.

[@lebronjames8823]

Basically the pro bowl and it seems to me once the ball carrier gets past the defender it’s a guaranteed score unless defenses start having 3 high safeties or something that if that’s even possible

[@guest65]

I dont know why people are upset at this its a tackling technique that no one teaches and its only effective because it forces the ball carrier to go down or risk a long term injury

[@Jimmystarr21]

“Sarcastaball” from South Park might be the new rules in a few years smh

[@carlfrye1566]

Horse collar and hip drop are the same....the defender comes down on the back of the runners legs. Take that as you wish then decide.

[@jinkzy23]

Which one cause more lower body injury hip drop or playing on turf

[@braves4life25]

Grass costs too much to maintain .. the nfl loses money when their big name starts are hurt

[@drkaymotorsports]

I am done with the pansy nfl. Every one of these rule changes has pissed me off, this one is over the top. I am freaking done.

[@joeheasley8046]

Been happening since the early 2000s. Softer every yr. Hate goodell more than any other person. He ruined a great game. 20 yrs ago I watched all sports. I don’t watch any of it anymore. It’s women, fantasy football and gambling keeping ratings up. But I hope it collapses big time

[@stevendugan1068]

This is a rugby tackle. Seattle lived this

[@thegamingpigeon3216]

While nobody wants to intentionally lose games (most of the time), and nobody wants these calls to impact the outcomes of games, I think that's what it's going to take. A concerted effort by every defensive player in the league. Deliver the hits, take the punishment and fines and just keep playing the way you do. They can't call it every time. They can't keep fining every player or they'll all go broke. That's the only way you stop this, otherwise it's just gonna keep being a game of take take take take take everything from the defense. And honestly, I disagree with Dan and agree with JJ Watt. At what point do we just do flags? Like, this is absurd.

[@Hauptstufe]

ALL of the players need to strike. This is the time to use the players union to push back and lockout the season.

[@klohr311]

Players will adjust and tackling will be more fundamental. People don’t like changes.

[@RaphialLee]

It should increase running backs career as the hip drop tackles cost a bunch of injuries

[@mallo1353]

Don’t tackle low, don’t tackle high, don’t tackle from behind. How the fuck do you tackle?

[@ashregriffin]

if i had a son that wanted to play in the NFL, he would never play on defense

[@_o.0_.]

You really think you can control the way you tackle someone that runs a 4.2? It’s impossible..

[@marquesmurray]

Guess im getting back onto baseball, might try hockey again.

[@dwainefrazier5806]

How will they bring the runner down?

[@rickvoigt8720]

It's football, players get hurt. You know it, I know it, the players know it.

[@MrCook-dz6gj]

NFFL. National flag football League

[@robertmunozjr1585]

*NOTHING* will change unless *both* the Fans and players protest on and off the field. When an offensive player has the ball Defense lifts up their hands and just let them score. Every game will end up 100 points and more. For both teams... boring right...Simply *REFUSE* TO TACKLE ANYONE... *DON'T* Watch the games on TV, don't attend the games. The entire fan base of ALL 32 teams To Not buy any merchandise by all means. Purchase NOTHING IF not... we're on the way to National Flag football League NFFL... Exit NFL, Enter NFFL

[@braves4life25]

Too bad there’s a lot of degenerates who bet millions on the game.. they will never stop

[@Lawlzinator]

The question is, what tackles will actually be allowed ?

[@shaqtamusPrime]

There are about to create room for actual competition/alternative. Im telling you

[@TheGuitaronfire76]

Players should conspire to build their own version of the NFL in the next 5-10 years and in 1 year, BOOM there's a new league and Goodell and the rest of them are out of a job. Most of the owners would have to be in on it.

[@PaceFootball]

I don't believe the 25x to 30x more dangerous stat. Season ending lower extremity injuries can happen on any play with or without contact: Achilles tear, ankle sprain, calf injury, knee ligament tear, severe hamstring strains. It's dishonest to say 25x more dangerous and impossible to quantify.

[@jessdogg9163]

Breaking news they say wild animals cant use hip drop techniques to take prey down

[@myselfmyself3872]

So how do you tackle? I’ll laugh when they try to call this garbage.

[@agentshaunsmith]

Let’s just have cake and ice cream on the field and give everyone a Gold Medal for their participation.

[@bobsiyt6548]

The NFL talks about safety - I can’t think of a more dangerous play than the “Tush Push” - 10-14 players just bashing their heads against each other… not to mention the lower body that gets involved. Once someone gets a serious concussion, or breaks their leg, then that will be banned.

[@EZshocks]

They changed PI rules after the Legion of Boom won a SB. Lol

[@rustyshackleford7282]

players can change things......all the defensive players have to do is,,,,,,,NOTHING,,,,,,let the offensive players score every play. make it so lame they are forced to change

[@shaunt7301]

Throw a bone to the defense and let the DBs use their hands more....

[@dd8627]

The NFL is trying to become the NBA he’s trying to become. What is this no defense is gonna be flopping in no defense.

[@austinj3881]

The NFL might as well become a two hand touch league at this point. I was already pretty disgruntled at how the NFL keeps making worse and worse rules. I think I watched maybe six games last year. I have a feeling this year I may only make it through a half of one game and be done

[@mbwell]

Good point. I spend more time on Sunday’s reading prior to the start of my work week. I will head into a local sports bar once in a while to watch games. But I’m going to eliminate that because the entertainment factor isn’t there. Most people in the bars are drunk and complaining about penalties called against their favorite team.

[@adrianwilson7193]

When the general goes down they find or promote a replacement.

[@marquesmurray]

So WR catches a slant, you just let him go if he is on front of you? The safety cant tackle him, so who does?

[@MrDiplomatSwag]

Conspiracy theory watch defense players get the RB treatment since you really can't do anything your replaceable aka no top money.

[@jacktg64]

💯 agree with this rule I've seen more injuries from this

[@Seeker794]

Fines, offense vs defense, i bet the disparity is astronomical.

[@roostercocksmith]

So basically u can't tackle anyone from behind?

[@mikegames3464]

Once again the NFL shows they don’t care about the safety of defensive players

[@garettnelson1]

Dan, The National Football League is evolving from what it once was. The proposed changes may diminish defensive players' ability to execute their roles effectively, potentially leading to higher-scoring games. Nonetheless, audiences will continue to tune in, ensuring that revenue continues to soar.

[@PaceFootball]

Get ready for LBs/DBs diving at RB knees. Concussions, ACL, MCL, PCL are so hot right now🔥

[@GretaThanos]

All this rule is designed to do is to give the refs yet another tool to decide the outcomes of playoff games… there is no way this will be enforced equitably.

[@MrJeffgallo11]

Yeah I'm taking the year off from the NFL unless they overturn this rule.

[@Taj_Fitness]

Football used to be called a gladiator sport. 2030 Super Bowl gonna be 3sec hold

[@bigkw1568]

RIP NFL

[@josephwhitebird7319]

its not about the players but more about protecting "their money"...they can care less about the players but paying huge contracts for injured players is what they care about....

[@emersonpinto1802]

Watch Rugby. The most popular game (other than soccer) outside US.

[@fabolousjada5070]

Na its boring too me the catches in the NFL and jukes are on another level

[@tomskeez1504]

@@fabolousjada5070 imagine watching plays every 30 seconds that last for about 5-7 seconds on average with commercial breaks throughout a 3hr period and saying thats exciting. Watch rugby league highlights, you might like it

[@oaklandtraphouse]

You'll never see a rugby player hip drop tackle because it's not taught it's bad technique for tackling

[@buzzkillington3840]

Not even all that, its a good point but how often do you see an offensive player break a tackle or shove a guy off by putting their hand in the defensive guys facemask, and thats okay to do, but a defensive player does it, there is no question, thats a penalty.

[@ndlovulwazi]

Time to form another league, these jokers are killing the game

[@cavetee8542]

2000 yard rushers will be as common as 4000 yard passers

[@jizzyjake6783]

I think I'm done with the NFL unless they put skirts on the QB.

[@pretzelhunt]

ya, there's ar ule for lower your helmet as a RB, but gloss over that; that doesnt fit our narrative.

[@stevensawyer5784]

They gloss over it because it’s very rarely ever called.

[@Vic-Vega]

​@@stevensawyer5784Try (basically) never. 😆

[@haroldconner6265]

So weird! I never new you could get injured playing tackle football!?!?

[@Violent_Ed_1317]

Honestly its turning into two hand touch

[@massacmongo995]

Let's be fair to the Defense > Just add on to the rule and make the Offensive Player to give himself up when he is touched .

[@chris_staybeastly]

They need to change the fields if they wanna protect the players

[@gilbertguzman531]

Its football it happens dang….when you try to be to careful thats when more injuries occur 🤷

[@keetmadu1054]

I am getting turned off by the NFL more and more. Scoring doesn't make me a fan. The strategy of the game does. Whether the score is over 45pts or under 20pts. And it won't stop here. They will keep watering down the defensive game until it is a stand there and hope the offensive player runs into you.

[@ThouArtOfWar0724]

Concerned about scoring? No one wants to watch a 42-50 game. Its exciting when a defense gets a big stop in a close game. Its not exciting when every drive is a TD because of poor defense its boring.

[@cliftonriley6754]

What's funny is how everyone is blaming the NFL and owners for saving their investments and making more money and not really caring about the players safety, which may be true, but when all the concussions and players dying from brain trauma or later down the road, their bodies are broken, like Earl Campbell's, every is crying how the NFL didn't care. Let's ask ourselves as fans, do we really care if players get seriously hurt for entertainment? Or do we justify it by thinking they make millions of dollars, so what?

[@joeheasley8046]

Do you worry about construction workers, cops or military? No because they made the choice to do something that is far more dangerous than football. And get compensated far less for more risk. These guys know what they signed up for. It’s never been softer and they keep making it softer some how. Don’t play if you don’t want to get hurt. But someone will for millions. Most of the people you mentioned are in there 60s/70s. Who feels great then? Nobody gets out alive. Yet we watch women in ufc punch each other but treat grown men with pads like a nurturing mother.

[@cliftonriley6754]

First of all, construction workers, cops and military don't entertain me, so there's no comparison! Yes, they do know what they sign up for but that's not the way they were trained to tackle, just like they were not trained to use their helmets to tackle. But I guess you would know!@@joeheasley8046

[@ryanrhoades5922]

Low hit on QBs started in 06 TB12 was hit low in 08

[@elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715]

How are the guys supposed to tackle?

[@williamgray5491]

you know about hip dropping?

[@elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715]

@@williamgray5491 Yes, I played football but currently play rugby. Hip drop is a common tackling technique in rugby league especially in the open field when a defender is beaten. With rugby style tackling seen in NFL, personally, I don’t know what other tackling technique besides the hip drop can be used in open field….i may be wrong but it just me…

[@elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715]

@@williamgray5491 This video by the Australian NRL defines a hip drop tackle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3ytaqB5l7hmqLcsi=8W5fnS2vVnCBQJcl

[@kallyomega8925]

Rugby outlawed the tackle and they're fine. They probably do just as much if not more tackling than the NBA

[@Joe-Skier]

Here's how the whole thing will play out: 1. Ban tackling altogether. 2. Ban flag football to protect fingernails. 3. Touch football will require fly-wrist action prior to touching. 4. Pink tutus will be required on all uniforms.

[@adrianmendez98]

No example of a hip tackle here folks, it’s a scam

[@pretzelhunt]

there's rules in sumo?! it's basically flag sumo!!

[@haroldconner6265]

nfl is dying, UFL probably getting more creditability as each day passes.

[@jefferybrockman3252]

Just what the nfl needs.. more flags.. it’s getting unwatchable

[@ElSantoLuchador]

Owners gonna do what owners gonna do to protect their investments, but football has gone soft over the years. It was a different game in the 70's and 80's. Then quarterbacks became precious, and now they're all precious. If we wanted to watch violence free sports we could just watch professional flag football. It's actually more exciting.

[@Woozie87]

This is a statement, NfL obviously wants the defense to be a small part of the game now. But now offenses can’t be compared to great offenses that flourished in a more fair balanced game where defense were absolutely the heart of a football team going all the way back to the origins of the sport. Offenses need to be nerfed in some way.

[@rosewar52]

far to much crap on the desk! who’s producing!?

[@oaklandtraphouse]

They dont teach players to hip drop tackle at any level of football its bad technique

[@pretzelhunt]

calling going deadweight while grabbing a player 'a weapon'; no wonder kids are 10ply soft af these days.

[@rjv2395]

this is BS. players sign waivers. the lawsuit angle is false. they can make rules to stop head contact, protect knees and ankles, etc. this isnt one of them. there should be rules for obvious intent to injure. no wonder hockey is such a great sport. fast, physical, tough. football is getting ridiculous

[@ignaciojaramillo6232]

Get this straight, professional football (keyword: professional) does not exist for football's sake, it exists for business' sake. This is a measure FOR the business, and you (me) will watch. Anyways, the defensive players that have a wide-arm radius and proper two-hand tackle technique and wrap will have no problem to adjust.

[@vegasranger]

They're making it impossible to tackle Patrick Mahomes. I guess 2 hand touch from now on.

[@steelebuttram9406]

I don't see the issue in the ban. It's a dirty method that we increased by 60 percent last year and we seen a lot of significant injuries from it. When you intentionally sit on the backs of players legs and start breaking legs, it should be banned. At least one injury per game happened last year and we almost seen it take out Mahomes too, which would've forever altered the history of the nfl.