Do you need ND filters for the Osmo Pocket 3?

[@gco2075]

No retention intros, no annoying cheap standard music, just straight to the point from the beginning to the end. Well done, professionally! Thanks a lot.

[@DungarooTV]

Love the play you explained how ND filters are used. Very easy to digest and easy to understand.

[@felixbrandau4751]

really calm video. Different than most KZbinrs today

[@chrischi978]

Learned so much from this video! I was very hesitant about filters and how to manually adjust settings but you explain everything so well in this video!

[@ekat]

Thank you for your review and comments. I have been a casual user and not so particular on a cinematic move look but care more about start shoot quick, and quick to store away after shooting. Your review and comments help me decide well. I really appreciate your review comments. Thank you.

[@dominey]

Glad it was helpful!

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz3577]

5:16 -nd filter and setting it to a range of ISO ex. 50 to 200, 50 to 400 -max ISO 400 until noise appear 7:15 AND 7:57 -comparison with nd filter & manual exposure VS without nd filter and auto exposure

[@bogartzarsadias-dz8fh]

When you turn off the OP3 with 1 filter on (Freewell brand); does not allow to close to original off position. Some people may not be bothered by this i’m certain. Other brands are thinner and allow to get back to off position with 1 filter on.

[@steverix8181]

The Neewer filters will allow the pocket 3 head to full close when turned off. An absolute must.

[@Reviews4fun1]

Think of a mist filter as a night or lowlight filter. I used one on my big Sony for Christmas lights to bloom. They look great for city streetlights. The NDs are for daylight - choose based upon the clouds present that day. The polarizer will make the blue sky and water/sea/lake pop. If you plan the shooting situation, they can make a decent photo or video really great.

[@ulisebalbuena]

I was thinking about that! good comment

[@JFLY78]

So I have ordered the Freewell ND-PL set of four filters, 8,16,32,64 if it is a super clear day is it the 8 or 64 I want to use? And what would I use for a cloudy day? Thanks!

[@livinginoklahomacityofficial]

This is the best overview I've seen about using nd filters. Thanks for the great explanation.

[@erkkocak]

Another great HONEST review from you Todd. I hate when youtubers talk about only the positive parts of the freebies they received. And most of them also try to sell you their affiliate link. You are always honets. If and If only you really need nd filters you should consider these but if anyone is that much concerned about motion blur and shutter speed..They shouldn't buy that mini gimbal at all. The main point here is to use it hassle free.. For YT work no one really needs nd filters.(see Markus Pix, Casey Neitstat etc.) For pro work you must buy pro cameras.. That's it :)

[@aryoindarto9425]

This video comes just in time as I am currently considering having a filter. Will probably settle for one and that would be Mist Filter for low light shoot and over bright sunny days.

[@nailingjellotoawall]

Great video! From what I've seen so far in my opinion on the mist filters is that the Freewell Snow Mist seems to look better at night than the DJI Black Mist, and vice versa in day light. Good price for such a large set. You're right that it may be overkill for most, but for those who have a little extra cash to throw around, it's probably a good investment because of the whole "better to have and not need than not have if you ever need" theory.

[@dominey]

Yep. The price is certainly reasonable for what you get. I'd be interested in trying DJI's black mist filter to see how it compares to Freewell's Snow Mist.

[@TadDonaghe]

My creative combo pack was back ordered to Jan 19th and then Jan 9th and then it just showed up yesterday!

[@loading.leanne]

Your voice is so soothing to hear

[@bmarie___]

YOUR MIC IS EVERYTHING !!! WHAT DO YOU USE?

[@dominey]

Thanks. :) Check the video description.

[@iXplainIT]

Thank you for the video. From your suggestion I just purchased the Freewell All Day Kit. The Pocket 3 is a really cool camera that I’m really enjoying

[@vcuteverything]

What a great video! It makes me want to grab a Pocket 3 and filter pack but I literally have no use for it lol. You did amazing job reviewing the product. I've been really enjoying your videos ever since I've stumbled across your channel.

[@jeanlouistraore]

Love the image quality and sound of your video !

[@phototristan]

If i just want a non adjustable ND filter for shooting out in the sun, which ND number should I get?

[@dominey]

If I had to pick two, I'd say ND8 and ND32 (or ND64) would be the most useful. ND8 is 3 stops, which would be good for overcast days. ND32 and ND64 are 5 and 6 stops respectively, and will block more light when the sun is bright without clouds. Then you can raise/lower ISO (or set it to a range, as shown in the video) and let the camera set an appropriate ISO. Those two NDs should do it.

[@phototristan]

@@dominey Thanks, makes sense.

[@cyclodent]

What if, on sunny days or other bright circumstances, you put on an ND filter and leave shutter speed on auto. Would this be useful to get better video quality, but without the hassle of having to check your EV all the time? Very useful video, by the way!

[@RoozbehMisaghi]

I suggest always go with 180 rule. Double the fps

[@RoozbehMisaghi]

I mean shutter = double fps

[@danludvigsen1974]

K&F concept filters can make the camera gimbal fold to protection position without the filter hitting anything.

[@making-memories-nl]

@todd Thank you for sharing. Why are you using 24 fps instead of 50/60. I always use 50 fps 1/100Sh and that makes the image much smoother. Hope to hear from you why.

[@dustydus5762]

24fps makes your footage look more natural with motion blur

[@rafael.gazoni]

24fps is what our eyes can see and it looks natural, also this is the frame rate all movies use it. 60fps is used only if you want to do slow motion. You can shoot with any frame you want, but there is a rule in a cinematography that sets 24 frames for cinema (movies) and 30 frames for television (journalism, tv shows and etc)… not a rule but an standards.

[@SergSpace]

10:58 just leave a finger print smudge on lens, you got that mist. 🙂

[@donovanw.2943]

Thanks for the helpful info. I've watched many videos about ND filters and I learned quite a few new things from you :)

[@th29inchbgyellowtaxi]

Such a well-delivered and helpful video, Todd. Thank you so much from Sydney Australia! 🦘

[@holsteincowboy]

Excellent vid.My set arriving today from AMZ

[@marcosv8426]

Great evaluation on filter use. Great advice on why not to use filters. The fact you got to remove the filter before turning the camera off is a deal breaker for me given the casual use I plan for this camera.

[@dominey]

Thanks. I do hope that DJI changes the design of the Pocket 4 or whatever to accommodate at least one filter, for I'd like to keep a UV filter on it at all times.

[@bananaketchup02]

they make filter thin enough for this problem now! Startrc makes them plus super cheap too!!

[@marcosv8426]

@@bananaketchup02 Yes! I discovered by accident the freewell CPL filter I bought was thin enough to not bump when turning off the camera. So easy to forget you got a filter attached.

[@mytrung]

Appreciate the comment on the mist. I thought it looked pretty gross and not my thing either not just on your review but others who said it was good. But I noticed djis mist filter it looked more natural, same with a Few other brands

[@olegvorkunov5400]

Great video! I frequently use ND filters with my full-frame camera. However, I've encountered issues where even the smallest dust particle on the filter can ruin a shot, despite thorough cleaning. These particles are hard to detect during installation, especially in fast-paced, 'run and gun' situations where there's little time for meticulous cleaning. My solution is to aim the camera at the sky or another solid-colored surface and inspect the viewfinder closely. The viewfinder is crucial because it provides a more accurate preview than the camera's screen, allowing me to detect any dust particles on the filter or lens. However, with cameras like the Pocket 3 that lack a viewfinder, I might have to reconsider using ND filters as frequently, particularly if dust becomes a persistent problem.

[@dominey]

True. Smears and grit can be a real pain with small cameras like the Pocket 3, and action cameras well. I once shot a video on my GoPro that looked like I was using an anamorphic filter because the light streaks were so insane.

[@IamEchelon]

Extremely high quality video learned a lot. Your sound quality is crazy good. Where is your mic? And how are you hiding it so well?

[@dominey]

It's just out of frame above my head. Like, an inch out of frame. You can see the audio gear I use in the description.

[@gusthecanonrebel]

Thanks for the information! Think If I were to grab an osmo 3 I’ll want the ND filters just so I can control the motion blur and also cut out reflections when needed

[@JN32006]

It appears the Freewell filters for the OP3 are yet to be available at online retailers.

[@AlessioFurlan]

Watch out for the Mist and LPR filter... if you put them on and turn off the chamber many times they get stuck in the gimbal locking system and you have to remove them with a screwdriver.

[@adz-ql6kv]

what do you mean by "turn off the chamber." what's the chamber?

[@devbowman]

What audio gear are you using on this review? As an audio professional - your VO sounds amazing! Excellent review by the way. And thanks for the audio crossfades on the cuts! +1 subscriber. 🤟

[@talhabaigg]

How do you edit your audio, it sounds so crisp

[@DrJohnAKing]

Thanks mate. great job. I go home to film ceremony fro my people in december. I am an australian aboriginal. We are in the n=middle of the desert. Any suggestions on filters for my pocket 3? or should I just capture raw footage and do it in post...and yes I am a total beginner. I just want to capture our stories and songs before they die out.

[@boycefitzgerald]

Thank you. For me pocket 3 filters are very difficult to remove. I can’t seem to do it.

[@suhasinimadhuryachennubhot9342]

Watching this AFTER i bought the ND filters 😅 for osmo 3

[@AJDonnelly]

@Todd Thanks for sharing your take on the ND filters (and filters in general.) I do wonder though, you mention lack of Histogram and zebras. Since making this video, have you started to use those functions on the Mimo app, and do you think they are helping with your choice of filter (i.e making it easier)? Interested to hear your opinion. :)

[@sebinthomasbabu]

09:22 Thanks for this tip..was searching everywhere to know this hack

[@allthecommonsense]

10:26 appreciate this. Every other video I've seen has shilled for it just to make the extra commission. I think all of the "mist" filters look worse than without.

[@sheltonherbert4138]

Hi Todd. I'm looking for what is the best set of ND filters for the Pocket 3. Freewell seems to be the leading candidate from what I've seen, but I've also heard of some variable option like that of K&F, I think its called. Just wondering what your thoughts were on them? Thanks

[@Minerva___]

Did you ever decide on the Variable ND filters? I'm considering them as well. Additionally, I've read that the K&F filters fit on the lens and you don't have to take them off when the camera shuts off there's enough clearance.

[@sheltonherbert4138]

I have not decided just yet. That info on the k&f is interesting! Still trying to decide how often I would actually use them. But I am interested in checking out the can if now that you mention it

[@Minerva___]

@@sheltonherbert4138 I just ordered them as I have an upcoming trip starting this weekend. I did some test shooting outside with the device this morning and it was pretty bright out and with manual exposure settings on (ISO 50, 1/50, 4K/24p) the image was nearly blown out. If my understanding is correct, the (V)ND should help me correct for that, allowing me to keep my desired shutter speed but have a properly metered scene. It should be here today so I’ll report back with my experience. Some folks have mentioned image quality concerns but I’m not pixel peeping nor do I think people who will be viewing my content (social media, YT shorts, etc) will be able to tell the difference on smaller screens.

[@sheltonherbert4138]

@Minerva___ yeah, that's what I'm after. Being able to knock the light down enough that I can keep the appropriate shutter speed to make the time lapse and other formats Lex Luthor and better the way they would at and lower light setting. I'll be interested to hear how well that works for you. Thanks

[@glennleahy6251]

I always use a variable ND filter on my Sony A7siii...so I know why / how to use them. However surely there's a case for setting this little pocket cam to auto exposure, then attaching say a 32 ND filter to it for shooting in full sun. The camera will then have assistance in reducing light, so will not need to crank the shutter speed hight...NO??? or am I not getting something here??

[@Valuedactionman]

Not sure why i haven’t thought of this before, makes sense to me

[@davidthegood]

Solid video - thank you.

[@limengcheng]

May I ask if you can only choose one, should you choose the ND filter or ND/PL filter?

[@chiparoo3000]

I may have missed it, but can you stack them?

[@miclube]

yes

[@KabirSandhu-nn2uu]

I want my pocket 3 lenses to face outwards upon turning it off when the ND filter is on. Do you know how to do it ?

[@SergSpace]

14:38 Backgrounds will be the same? I thought by setting shutter speed to manual, you need ND filter, otherwise backgrounds will be washed out. Besides at 8:04 picture background with filter has more professional look. Thanks a ton for live samples with posted samples! What editor do you use to color-grade?

[@ashstonk]

It fold up fine with the k&f filters

[@Mr.paillant]

Excellent video and explanation thanks!

[@melas_699]

Amazing sound quality in your video

[@happydayzee]

You have a very nice voice. May I ask what mic you were using?

[@PaulMDiaz]

Excellent review, thanks creating this video.

[@senpaiyuri9018]

Wanted to ask can you stack filters on top of each other

[@oghi]

Can these filters interfere with the object tracking of the pocket 3?

[@timelapsebylkunl72]

Thank you for a great and honest review. You are only one reviewer that mention pocket3 can not close with filter on. I have both freewell and startrc filter. Startrc is really thin so you can leave it on after turn off camera.

[@wolfiemedia]

Do you have a link to these ones that can stay on? Do they have a colour-cast or are they true ND filters? Thanks 🙏🏻

[@timelapsebylkunl72]

@@wolfiemedia try to search brand STARTRC. It's no color cast.

[@DamianBrown]

Mine does. I have the same kit.

[@MIHAO]

Thanks, Todd!

[@shnmusic0]

are the dji pocket 3 nd filters better?

[@userDEVmtb]

are the ND fiters wide lends too?

[@smallbizdigitalmedia]

Fantastic video and timely as the same filter bundle has just arrived! Can I ask what audio you are using in the studio there and whether you are treating it in post as it’s really good 👏

[@oldman1517]

Thank You! Very measured and helpful video. You covered a few things I hadn't considered. Indeed, I have this mega pack, though still no camera. 😐

[@Reviews4fun1]

I ordered the base model so I could actually get it. I still need my Micro SD to arrive. 🙄

[@filmplayer333]

I find that auto exposure lowers the shutter speed to much sometimes

[@kurt3929]

Hey. Thanks for the video. What Mic and settings are you using for your audio? Are you using FCP for editing?

[@dominey]

I use Premiere Pro for editing. You can find my audio/video gear here: kit.co/todddominey/video-and-audio-gear-for-youtube

[@eder3232]

can i use an nd filter with wide angle lens?

[@TheG-OStore]

Very helpful video…. The pocket 3 is definitely DJI’s FLAGSHIP camera…the sales tell the truth and I hope they put even MORE resources toward the next model. This device is being used at weddings, events…etc. it’s a Professional, Non-Professional camera that does light to Heavy filming work. Let’s just be honest.

[@1965Singaporean]

Very honest review. Thanks.

[@firpofutbol]

For the use case of this camera I think it needs variable ND filters.

[@dominey]

I was going to mention variable NDs, but didn't include them in the video. My quick take is that variable NDs - while convenient - can misbehave like a CPL or ND/PL filter does when used outdoors in bright light. Also, I find them quite fiddly, especially on a small gimbal. Granted, it takes a little more time to mount/un-mount solid NDs and ND/PLs compared to rotating a dial (like a VND), but because they're magnetized the difference is fairly negligible.

[@Omer-wx5dh]

What is the operating system and program to which the video is Editing?

[@dominey]

You mean what do I use to create my videos? I use Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve on a Mac Studio M1 Max.

[@oberon2230]

Awesome channel! Love this review, great style and information. Thanks :) I just got my Creative Combo today :)

[@RpKTANK]

Actually ND8/PL is the one to always carry on you then it's more suitable for epic shots.

[@dominey]

ND8 (3 stops) is typically the most used for me as well (when shooting video in general). But sometimes heavier densities are needed on bright, sunny days.

[@maxwellsvader2573]

Great video what about sharpness

[@Dragonkill-music]

I usually don't use ND filters except for fast moving subjects where motion blur is really necessary, because as we can see at 8:00 minutes: it casts a dark shadow on colors which I don't really like

[@thenordicjamaican]

amazing video. Very informative.

[@chaadaev88]

Exhaustive explanation, thank you! The video goes to my favorites 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@willbutlercreative]

This was excellent

[@Anton_Rodnik]

ND надо всем, кто хочет снимать красивую киношную картинку! Спасибо, автор!

[@MichaelSouverain]

Ca donne une teinte unique à certains morceaux finalement, notre oreille étant calée et habituée sur le 440Hz (même les non-musiciens), les colorations apportées quand on en sort sonnent "exotiques", je me suis deja amusé à recaler mes morceaux préférés (Beatles notamment) en 440hz parfait et c'est bizarrement moins "sexy" :) Plus moderne et convenu . :) Par contre pour les musiciens (et notamment les chanteurs) chantez vos morceaux en déaccordant votre instrument comme le morceau original, c'est trés jouissif et agréable! :)

[@TheTravelMoneyGuy]

great video thank you

[@SteveNaghavi_Vlog]

This Voice! Hollywood ;)

[@AlpachinoHuSTle]

Thank you

[@aresfael]

First I watched for the topic, then I watched for the voice 😅

[@tsizzle]

They should just put in built in ND filters into the camera like the Sony ZV1

[@felixbrandau4751]

your sound is good.

[@one901]

Great video but this just seems like way too much work for this. On my bigger cinema cameras I get it but while on vacation or traveling I don’t wands fiddle with filters

[@IsmailFamily]

are you related to that coffee guy?

[@realisrare-s3o]

god bless you my man

[@allthecommonsense]

1:36 the pained grimace and death grip belies your commentary...

[@Mactownization]

I don't see any difference between having and not having a filter.

[@dominey]

The main difference is shutter speed. NDs help make the footage a little smoother and less jittery. Better blur with subjects in motion. Otherwise...? That's their main contribution with the P3 because the aperture is fixed.

[@sethtapiax]

Thanks for this info. I decided not to purchase and utilize these filters for my dji osmo pocket 3

[@mch2359]

Were you ever watching a video, sucked into the story, then dropped out of the story, annoyed that you did not see some camera blur?

[@dominey]

I think you're saying motion blur is less important than story? If so, I'd agree. Motion blur is sweetening of the image and can't make a story more compelling. For me it's more about making things less noticeable, and because all of us are accustomed to watching television and films at 24fps and 1/50 second, matching that means the footage is less distracting.

[@rafael.gazoni]

I stopped using ND filter in my drones a long time ago, makes almost no difference on footage and really slow you down. I will also not using it in my pocket 3 I’ll leave the ND filters only for my main camera. Drone and gimbals (pocket 3) are gadgets to to give a plus into your videos, if you make them more difficult to use, you will be more lazy to use it and you will use it less. If you making a video for a client that doesn’t know anything about cinematography he will never notice the difference about montion blur, this is for our ego e preference.

[@rafael.gazoni]

By the way… excellent video

[@rdphoto2]

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[@IndiaDelgado]

Depending on where you’re shooting, it’s not just about motion blur but also getting the shot exposed properly. I took the pocket 3 to Jamaica when it was first released and I wish I had nd filters. The highlights like the clouds were blown out. I shot in log and was able to do some grading but then you are pushing the colors in your footage unnecessarily where having an nd filter could easily address this problem. I will say that the auto setting are great but you can really get some amazing footage when properly exposed and shooting in log.

[@rafael.gazoni]

@@IndiaDelgado about the expose I can easily fix reducing the expose to -0.3 to -1.0. But I agree with you about ND filters for expose properly, but for me the difference is not so significant for the extra work to get the footage. Maybe I’m thinking like this because I’m a lazy videomaker haha.

[@IndiaDelgado]

@@rafael.gazoni lol! Haha. Sometimes working smarter not harder is better trust me! im lazy too! The most important thing is getting the shot! ☺️☺️☺️

[@Anton_Rodnik]

Прекрасно объясняешь, я даже плохо зная язык все понял.

[@ivoliYT]

What kind of question is that. Device is unusable outside if you don't have them.

[@markjob6354]

*@**10:46** Uhhh no. The mist effect filter doesn't look good because you're shooting into the Sun just outside of the upper Left top of your frame. Don't do that ! For one thing, this kind of shot is incredibly cliche ! For another reason, this effect filter is designed for indoor incandescently lit, studio shots, or outdoor with the Sun behind you over your shoulder to the Left or Right. Never use any effects filter with the main point of light only in front of you. I'm sorry to say this, but I feel compelled to say it - I am so sick of this goddam influencer movement ! This is one messed up trend which really needs to just go away ! Why ? There's too many people giving out either incorrect or deliberately obfuscating information, or the influencer is just a rank amateur, who simply doesn't know what they are talking about, or hasn't received enough basic videography or photography training to properly evaluate the product in question. I wish the companies who approach various people with channels on KZbin practised some kind of proviso that in order to review their products the influencer had to demonstrate some level of proof of photography knowledge, or training, or qualifications first.*

[@whoismichaelesquire]

I don’t like mist filters and I don’t get the hype about it. Like who wants a video looking like the lens needs cleaned 😂

[@adz-ql6kv]

he's using one in this video

[@gigihanmandarin]

1/4 is a little strong in this case. Will be good if the storytelling is a scene about a dream or memory otherwise it has limited applications. 1/8 will be a better choice like what is said in the video.

[@jeffrogers4251]

Excellent video! Really appreciate your hard work explaining things.

[@MarS-dc2qx]

You don’t really need filters they don’t do very much really

[@dominey]

True if you don't really care about smoother shutter speeds and increasing clarity. If the Pocket 3 had a variable aperture it would be an entirely different ball game.

[@Pizzatime650]

Way to long commercial for nd filter. It sucks.

[@UNSCRIPTEDSHAWNRAY]

chill you are taking the pocket 3 too thing too serious. your reality is not ours

[@HH-xs2gm]

It’s meant for professionals that want to use pocket 3 as a hobby but still film d log to customize how footage look post. Not for newbies that use it for vlogging

[@NOTLeavingLV]

Freewell is overpriced

[@ElevatedD]

No. No you do not need these filters. Shoot in log & clean it up in post

[@phototristan]

That would not do anything for motion blur.