Do you need new irons?

[@slytown]

I play 20 year old players cavities. Yes, I want new irons. I've tested the 2024 Wilson CBs and loved them. They are a tad longer. However, my shot circle is pretty similar with the old irons. Drivers, woods, and putters have changed a lot in 20 years, so I would never recommend using those old clubs. But, if you are a good player, keeping an old iron set you are comfy with is worth gaming.

[@ErnieSidmeyer]

I have watched a few of your videos now and aquired some special tools to work on golfclubs. I just want to say thank you cause my golf club has been very helpful in donating free club heads and so forth so now I fix clubs for myself and others. It's alot cheaper then buying all new gear. 🎉

[@redhed9776]

exactly why I'm getting into re-plating iron/putter heads. 👍

[@tag_76]

New clubs; irons or woods, are great and I do really like some of the new stuff that has come out over the last few years. That said, whenever my swing isn't cooperating, I bring out my Ping Eye 2 irons and play some of my best golf. Yes, they are definitely shorter compared to the newer irons because they have extremely traditional lofts; however, I would honestly put their forgiveness up against almost any new irons. They just feel good and are so easy to hit. I will never get rid of these irons even though I'm a single digit handicap. I love them!

[@gerrymcintosh4477]

I’m still playing a 30 year old set of Hogan Apex blades with extra stiff shafts. I can still shoot under par on some days. I don’t believe that new irons will have me play any better. I have gone through a few wedges and of course, I have modern metal woods in the bag, but that’s me. 🤷‍♂️

[@danielowen5889]

Apex plus for me.. but agreed

[@tedzink4574]

I played 9 holes with Jr. golfer and his dad after an event, the dad pointed out the sound my Hogan Forged Edge irons made on contact. I don't shoot even, ever, but I still like the feel/feedback of a forged club over the cast clubs.

[@carljamesbaring9498]

@@danielowen5889 Agree bro. I just reshafted my Apex Plus with Dynalite SL's after turning 59yrs old and when I had the lofts/lies checked, the tech remarked how good the finish still is after 21yrs. Next 3 rounds, I kicked a$$ on the course against my 20+ yr olds playgroup. Topped, of course, with my 50-yr old Berrylium Anser 4 putter which seems to find the hole at ease. It's the Indian...not the arrow...

[@charlesbartholomew2910]

Outstanding video showing the different clubs and their results, Jim! Good information here.

[@redhed9776]

came back after a couple years to see how you're doing. Excellent video on reality of business. As a fellow vet, i would like to ask that you support the Veteran's Golf Association if you currently do not. It is wonderful way for vets and family to continue the comradery and support the sport we love. Keep up the good vids, double dolphin.

[@allahalibaba9063]

Happy Holidays James and thanks for this review.......🙂

[@HyperbrandedGolf]

I’ve always liked the looks of the Ping Zing 2s. They’re 30 years old, and turns out they hit a ball just as good as anything.

[@dogsarefun2]

Love my 12 year old Adams forged black CB3 irons with black KBS tour shafts.... Wish they still made them, I would buy a new set.

[@marcusmauldin731]

Playing Titleist 735cm I bought i bought 14 years ago. I want to get new irons but haven’t found any that feel like the 735s.

[@Bubzp11]

Good stuff Jim, always appreciate your videos and content. Thanks for sharing

[@danielowen5889]

Never giving up my Ben Hogan Apex Plus.. haven't hit anything that sounds or feels as good..

[@DLTJR1959]

I played 09 Wilson Di9 irons up until 22 when I retired. Bought a set of Callaway Apex DCB's. I'm now 65 and with a hip, knee, and shoulder replacement it was more of getting senior shafts than anything else. The Apex's are fine clubs just as the Di9's were. Are they that much better. Yes. It's my last set anyway so I'm good.

[@Hockeistguyalive]

Wait my clubs shouldn’t stay in the car? How else do I sneak out to play?

[@Omnis2]

I played some of my best golf with a knockoff set of Callaway BBs from the early 90s (Lincoln, before they were raided by the feds). Extreme topline, extreme offset. I was visiting family out of state and they were the only thing they had in storage where I wouldn't have to rent a set.

[@Patrick-ol1rt]

Had Mizuno’s from 2006, still work, but the faces and grooves of the 7 thru wedge are worn badly, so now looking for new irons, old clubs can still be good unless they were played a lot, his old irons look hardly used!

[@5tanw0rr311]

Still playing my Cleveland Reds (2006) but don’t play as often as I used to be so a bit pointless spending money that I don’t need to. I did swap out the shafts to the Nippon NS-Pro 850’s which, from swapping out the Dynamic Gold S300’s completely changed the characteristics of the clubs. For the amount of time I get to play, I don’t see any reason to change

[@stacks4943]

Love this video ..! Thank you so much for sharing..!

[@johndomutz1052]

I'm a lefty, too. PS - we would forgive you if you practiced without your apron! 😂

[@McGolf]

Lol

[@fretless05]

I honestly think the aggressive lofts on modern clubs have become a bit of a con. Sure, when you try out a 7i in the store and hit it 180, you think the club is some sort of miracle, when it's really a 5i with a different number on the bottom. Further, with each club carrying further, we all end up with 4 or 5 wedges in our bag! It's just crazy. That said, more forgiving heads can make a difference and side to side dispersion is important; I just don't think adding yards is that important.

[@jamesgerboc]

Isn't it interesting that sets no longer include a 3 iron but the price of 4-PW is $400 more than 8 clubs?

[@paulmcgee1867]

Yep that’s why they now have HL

[@tedzink4574]

​@jamesgerboc With the new lower lofts a 3 iron would be 15°, which explains their disappearance from sets. Who could hit a 15° iron?

[@jamesgerboc]

@@tedzink4574 i get that. I don't agree with it. Lofts should be standardized in my hum le opinion. But, my point was paying twice the price for one less club.

[@jamesgerboc]

@@tedzink4574 PS. I have a 2 iron in my bag.

[@Elverdane]

I play old Mizuno mx17 from 2006 i think. They work like a charm. If a #7 doesn't go long enough. I just use a #6 :p Consider switching to Takomo 101t's at some point, but need more consistency before the change.

[@jimanderson8149]

Excellent video plenty of choices, okra excellent club great feel

[@tomchaperon1081]

If you dont have a golf swing clubs arent going to help much😀

[@jonn6427]

I asked myself that question so I got fitting for PXG clubs. Long story short is I gained ten yards for the irons. The answer to the gain was stronger loft. So I never got new irons. I still have my 2010 Taylormade burner set.

[@thedrunkenwobblies1331]

They are stronger lofts, but lower COG so the 7 iron still goes as high and spins as much, even if the loft is lower. That improvement was mostly because of lightweight shafts which allow the COG to be lowered in clubheads. But this is more geared towards Game Improvement and Distance irons. Players Irons are still traditionally lofted with traditional COG and shafts. My Tour Preferred MC from 2012 mostly just loses some forgiveness compared to the newer players irons. But distance wise with the same lofts, on my best strikes, is very similar to modern players irons. The difference is the bad strikes with the new irons are usually much better.

[@MrDenosaur]

My mate wants to start playing golf . I have a set of graphite shafted golden bears he can have . I took him down to the local field to try them out . But! I also took a pitching wedge from Sports direct , a Ram fx77 wedge , a wilson d9 wedge and a cobra f8 one length wedge . Why ? Because I know whats he's like . Anyway he hit shots ( like a saw off shotgun ) and after I'd given him a little bit of tuition , and he needed it , the results ..... Basically all the same ! The stronger lofts went further . Anyway, I offered him the golden bears, a bag , a driver , A 5 wood ,a putter and 7 wood . All old but in good condition .Free! And ..... "Give me chance to think it over " I almost gave the set to a youngster practicing about 100 yards from us . I'm Shaking my head in bewilderment !🤔🤪

[@jamesgerboc]

But $1500 for 7 clubs for 15 yards? Really? Lessons are $100. Iron set pricing has almost doubled in the last several years. Hard to explain or understand.

[@paulmcgee1867]

Look at the Wilson pricing

[@zakbutz8226]

Why I think Maltby is getting more and more popular. I’m going to order a brand new 7 club set of TS1-im’s for less than $500

[@michaelmccreery6305]

@@zakbutz8226 ts3 for Me similar to t200 lofts are not pumped up

[@jamesgerboc]

@@zakbutz8226 Maybe that's what it will take for the big brands to stop paying big bucks to a raft of tour pros that inflates their marketing budget and consumer prices. Maybe the tech has improved, but that doesnt justify why my Ping S55 8-club set with custom shafts and grips was $599 and the T150 7-club set with standard shafts is $1399. Thats real inflation...or greed. No one is going to take up golf or let their child take up golf when equipment requires a mortgage,

[@ahmadghanem2414]

High prices, including, golf courses will push people away from the game.

[@charlesbartholomew2910]

Jim, Perhaps trying the Neo shaft in the SR flex with the DynaForged iron?

[@RetNavyChiefBTC]

Lessons and practice is money better spent.

[@murraymann7352]

Teaching professional here. Get lessons!!! Guess what, you can’t buy a game! Data analytics? Numbers based? Give me a break!! Numbers can and do lie and be manipulated to make you look better if not done more than once. I can guarantee you, you will be getting custom fit to whatever inconsistent swing flaw you have, and that is a major financial mistake! You can’t even hit the sweet spot on your existing clubs consistently so what the heck are you doing? It’s so exhausting when I hear this idea all the time, especially without addressing several factors, the least of which is how repeatable and fundamentally sound is someone’s golf swing before getting fit? Numbers can do lie if not done more than once or even twice by someone who has been certified. Talk to any real committed golfer or someone who is having consistent success on the links and I can guarantee you their swing is first and foremost in order of priority, not equipment. And please don’t get me started about the distance everyone is pushing just to sell products. It’s irrelevant unless you are a professional golfer!! I’ll just leave you all with this question that I have asked my students for decades. How many of you amateurs (no single digit or scratch golfers need apply to this question) have hit 300+ yards. Raise your hand. Ok now keep your hands up if you have even broken par? Need I say more? Distance is great, but it doesn’t guarantee a thing. If it did, guys like Cameron Champ, just to name one, would dominate every single event. Even he, a professional golfer, is smart enough to understand, and is professional enough to admit during a recent clinic he was hosting, that while distance can be a positive, putting still reigns supreme. Build your swing, strike it flush more consistently, then maybe see what tech is out there that can enhance your specific game. Golf is tough and no one will ever master it, so just learn to hit the middle of the club face consistently with the help of a professional. I guarantee you the game will be more fun.

[@rickhunter6513]

💯

[@nickmillar9651]

Great info. Would there be a be a lot of change in the gen 5 Pxg irons and the gen6 irons. One year span

[@johndomutz1052]

I'm a lefty and can't have a set of high launch Mizunos. 😢

[@chadblackwood579]

No

[@nickmillar9651]

@@chadblackwood579 Thank you I didn’t think would be a lot if any

[@mattrevilock5890]

Nice content Jim. I wonder what it will look like in 10 years.

[@McGolf]

It might be swinging itself

[@gregwayne6785]

@@McGolfor at least they will advertise it as such.

[@tedzink4574]

Didn't Orca fit and supply Liam @golfmates with a set of blades a few years ago?

[@jmj5150]

All marketing.. Golf companies have advertise new tech but just reinventing the wheel.

[@gerrymcintosh4477]

Should sell the irons you will never use again. Think of it, if you haven’t played a particular set of irons for the past few years, do you really think you are going to put them into play? You say you are a pack rat, but you’re allowing your possessions to posses you, in this case. Someone would be happy to get these irons to begin their golfing careers. Sell these irons while you can still get good value for them and free up some valuable space. Your wife will thank me for the cleaner look around the house and the new, valuable space they will provide. We are all pack rats to some degree, but eventually, we learn to keep our extra stuff to a minimum. Good luck and best wishes. 🇨🇦💝🇺🇸🥰🙏

[@spennce]

So if lofts are getting stronger for example an 8 iron having 34° of loft and the club length remains the old standard 36.5" for an 8 iron wouldn't people in essence be playing clubs 1/2" shorter than standard based on loft not club number.

[@hermanohm7861]

I got a good question Jim I have a current set ai 300 irons is it safe to have them bent to 2 degrees upright they are standard right now or do I need to send to callaway to bend them

[@maxsmart8954]

The clubs don’t make the player. yardage gain is because club companies de loft new clubs to increase yardage. And sell to buyers who think they are gaining yardage. Just de loft your set up or drop down one club for the same results.

[@GRUNGELEOPARD]

Nice swing

[@daleconrod5057]

Hmm, well I disagree with your thought process. The New Levels were down the middle, higher spin, higher height, and steeper descent angle. The Wilson’s were longer but had a 40 yard dispersion. That would put you in rough, bunkers and water more often…why would you want that? The Mizuno’s were longer than the New Look, with pretty good dispersion, pulling to the right, so that could be played. You want more distance, pull out a 6 iron.

[@robinmccleery3968]

Great video❤ how many sets do you still have? 😂

[@McGolf]

A lot

[@KentnDebi]

Don't answer this Jim as the answer might incriminate you...

[@charlesbartholomew2910]

@@KentnDebi 🤣🤣🤣

[@richardsiles8206]

newirons are 2 clubs stronger i.e 28 degree 7 instead of 37 degrees- kinda ascam.

[@damarapoledna3636]

Is it bad that I like shiny and new🤔

[@georgepatterson5582]

I play callaway big bertha 2006 model and I shoot consistently in high 70s only play 1 time a week all these new clubs just ain't worth the price tag.

[@johnmurphy6475]

I always buy used why bother getting fitted

[@bessergolfmitalex]

Hi Jim. nice video. eat less burgers you literally out of breath after every shot. OK just kidding. I am a lefty too so I am limited with testing new irons. but I do once in a while at least once a year with major manufacturers. but none of those "newer" irons can give water to my 6 years old cobra f max irons. OK I play them with good shafts but these f max are just awesome. where ever you hit them, they just feel like butter and literally now drop off in anything, super forgiving. forged feeling. they are light weight so I can adjust every iron with lead tape as I want and that's just great, nothing better than 6 years old f max. not oversized, not small, just perfect. I do play a hcp 6 with them.

[@michaelbardeleben4519]

As long as your irons conform to USGA 2010 groove rules….you can play with whatever irons you choose. Playing socially you can play with irons as far back as 1917 if you wish…..but playing competive tournaments even monthly medals at club ‘recreational’ level…the amnesty is end of 2024. By 2025 everyone on the plane will have to purchase new groove rule conforming irons and all manufacturers conform to the rule. Notice I said plane and not planet as we live and play golf on a flat plane enclosed in an invisible firmmament dome in which the sun and moon are 33 miles in diameter and run in circular paths around and above the plane giving us day and night continuously. A womderfully designed and created perpetual energy timepiece by Yahweh who is Jesus Christ.

[@michaelmccreery6305]

Rev 21 huh 🤔

[@michaelbardeleben4519]

@ Yes! Highest marks Mr McCreery. Notice in Rev 21 an eternal timepiece the New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven which is a finite space and world for us as believers to live with Christ eternally. Originally Christ created a perfect finite world for us to live in too back in the garden of eden some 6000 years ago. There is no infinite world of outer space outside this. Everyhting we have been forced indoctrinated in school is wrong! Why? Because sinful tainted man through the Freemasons on behalf of Satan have deceived us into believing were floating in infinite space on a large rotatating sphere and we are insignificant nothings born from space dust fate billions of years ago. They have contradicted the command of Jesus….”Let no man decieve you!” Matthew 24. We are so significant YAHWEH gave up everything He had…His own Son to save us and live with us forever!!!!! Thats pretty significant I’d say…..wouldn’t you agree?

[@mlantieri]

Your videos are way too looonnnggg !

[@darreldstudie7588]

I have a vintage set of Spalding TopFlites, a set of Golden Bears, a set of Callaway Big Bertha 1994s as backups and for my son when he visits and a set of Callaway Big Bertha X-12s that I am currently using and they are just fine for me. I play for fun not to become the best golfer in the world. I don't need to spend $1400 for a set of clubs I will probably use for the ranges and an occasional game.