Doc Rivers Explains How LeBron Dominates At Age 39 | KG CERTIFIED

On the latest episode of KG Certified, Doc Rivers explains how LeBron James dominates the NBA still at the age of 39. Plus, he chimes in on the GOAT debate and shares an incredible Tiger Woods story.
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[@jaylenmoore5207]

Paul Pierce and KG have so much respect for Doc.. they allowed him to speak without interruption and gave undivided attention.. thats coach

[@khalifahmuhammad1574]

He was, is and forever will be coach to them and on top of that the coach who coached them to their only ring. So, yeah.

[@jaylenmoore5207]

@@khalifahmuhammad1574facts

[@ashleymercedesdiaz]

Doc actually played at the highest level unlike some coaches

[@ChromeHeart-hx2ms]

@@ashleymercedesdiaz guess he gets extra points for that

[@ChromeHeart-hx2ms]

Facts tho it’s pretty cool to see

[@XPXhumble]

This is like a teacher talking to his students years after they graduated

[@emeriscottii409]

💯🎯

[@ZedoBlack]

That's exactly what it is

[@SUPERZAYAN1]

The fact that the GOAT debate is now subjective is a MAJOR W for Bron😂, 20 years ago there wasn’t a person on earth that thought anyone would be in the same convo as MJ

[@micapalma9532]

🤣Lebron choked so many times..game 4 2020-2011 nba finals. that series alone says he can not be on the goat conversation... he was guarded by a smaller opponent by he name of Barea and Terry. he had only 8 points. they cooked Lebron... if anything, Lebron is in for Wilt conversation. both of them dominates the stats. but for "NBA accolades", nobody is touching MJ accomplishment yet... we are still waiting...

[@Elvarionplays]

mj is more successful but lebron is a better player @@micapalma9532

[@jamesgarcia6166]

@@micapalma9532 imma still believe an ex coach and HOF players than you though. Their opinions are more respectable than yours 🤣

[@jazzy_jay]

​@micapalma9532 , MJ didnt make the NBA finals until his 7th season, but no one talks about that. Got bounced in the 1st rd 3 yrs straight. Meanwhile LeBron took a team w/ JR smith as his #2, to an NBA finals😂

[@jamesgarcia6166]

@@jazzy_jay dude this people, they just know mj played for a total of 6 seasons and that's it 😅

[@petergyamfi7896]

This is the first sensible discussion of LeBron that I’ve heard so far. Especially, Doc and Kevin ‘s last words. Let’s enjoy the two guys.

[@thotblocker9000]

The interview we didn’t know we needed.

[@joelhernandez8105]

Love this type of videos it’s like I’m there with the greats listening to them discussing basketball, thank you!

[@mediamannaman]

The more I watch KG's talk shows the more I like him. As a Spurs fan, my first memories of Garnett were his early matchups against Tim Duncan, and those were some epic battles! Garnett was so damn athletic, and so emotional - he was the anti-Duncan! Every bit as good as TD in my humble opinion, but Tim was a little more mature when they were young and was on a better overall team. I kind of lost track of KG after a few years and then he went to Boston and dominated. So glad he got a ring.

[@ServantProfessional]

Shout out to KG and Truth. They handled LeBron as competitors and gave him great runs. Yet they can still give him his flowers. I love this. Rivers is a great coach and speaker too

[@cedricporter944]

They didn't give him his flowers when he started beating them.Now they are is what makes it more crazy.They knew James was a beast all alone.

[@ServantProfessional]

@@cedricporter944 couldn’t agree more 👍

[@youngfresh8585]

To Paul & KG: Thank you for being COMMENTATORS ❤ putting the past aside is a grown man action.

[@feddi7693]

🎯

[@OnewYork]

RIGHT!!!

[@gtswago1]

100% THIS!! Especially Pierce who is always stingy with his praise of Bron.

[@mr.brooks3748]

Don’t kill me in these comments, but Paul Pierce had that effect on me playing basketball like Steph has to the children that step back I definitely went outside and practice that from P squared

[@lamontemagnifico7149]

I agree bro. They flipped him too. Now he is on LBJ nuts so the show can ‘succeed’

[@MadSwagMedia]

@@lamontemagnifico7149U are hilarious. They all make more money bashing Bron cause that’s bigger audience that’s why Skip did it.

[@reggaeone]

i appreciate this conversation.

[@JB-ty8mv]

Wow, what a great conversation between three greats.

[@virginiacoleman2340]

THE "3 STOOGES" IS WHAT THEY ARE!!! (LARRY, CURLY & MOE)

[@MiskeenPrince]

Doc's wrong about the student thing. Gil was talking aboit him outsmarting the wizards early in his career and was on nightcap talking about breaking down film w/ his wife.

[@chuckk2fuego76]

Yea Doc was deff wrong; his first game against the Kings he was looking like he been there already. Can’t show a IQ like that if you’re not a student of the game.

[@ChromeHeart-hx2ms]

Was thinkin the same

[@qdamusiq5006]

Doc's mistaken Lebron outwardness and ability to be vocal once he got to Miami with him being a student , Miami just helped him be more comfortable and confident

[@kingmusa8618]

@@qdamusiq5006yeah cav players admit to hating on him

[@loristnorton3723]

He was smart. But he didn't command his team back then, he tried to do it on his own BECAUSE his team hated him. Just like what wemby feels now.

[@deekaymusiclover2481]

I'd much rather listen to former players than analyst rhat didn't play. K.G., Paul Pierce, Paul George, Kenyon Martin, Isaiah Thomas, Steve Smith and so many more, their insights and knowledge is real and full of RESPECT for each other, and THE GAME!

[@carloswharris]

Draymond called this. He said some years back that retired players would become the new commentators of basketball

[@joegaston7148]

Amazing take doc

[@tonejack1]

His dominance at his age is pure dope. Only guys as dope as Lebron at that age were Lance Armstrong & Barry Bonds,maybe even Roger Clemens. The amount of money he spends on his body. It’s absolutely dope to witness !

[@ocampbell1954]

That's easy to say when you're a mediocre person in life. You've never had to push yourself to the limit. Probably grew up in a white middle class community. Easy to diminish hard work and accuse people of doping.

[@stebbiej]

Dominating what

[@B.Macklin]

😂😂😂Best comment I’ve seen in awhile.

[@albundy5492]

Lol love this

[@user-sf1dz6dr2w]

Not on defense…

[@user-gw1lv5xe7i]

MJ was good but he took 2 yrs off, came back fresh, LBJ, has been doing it for 21 seasons. I seen both of them come in the league and play from day one. MJ is just built different,, LBJ is just in a league of its own......

[@Ezekial2517]

Except Mike quit from literal boredom. LeBron is chasing MJ who wasn’t even thinking about putting something so out of reach that nobody could top it, he just did it. Imagine if Jordan had somebody to chase? Or at least someone that he didn’t pass up so easily? LeBron has also looked pretty disinterested in defense and taking care of the ball the back 9 of his career. Maybe he should’ve taken a break?

[@yesyes1842]

I think Jordan taking 2 years off makes his case stronger and not weaker. It's hard to take 2 years off from professional sports and come back as the same player in the 90s. Had he not taken off, how many rings would we have? How can a man take 2 years off his prime and still be in the goat debate, what if he didn't take 2 years off, would there even be a debate? We also make it seem like he tapped out by taking 2 years off, thats revisionist history because he told you why. His father died... His father wanted him to play baseball... Listen to what he's saying as the reason why he did it. It wasn't about basketball at all...

[@kevinbuggage9721]

@@yesyes1842boy you people are something else..

[@yesyes1842]

​@@kevinbuggage9721 It's true, it's crazy how someone can take 2 years off their prime and sit squarely in the Goat conversation. How great do you have to be to do that? The guy played a span of 14 years minus 2 years in-between before he turned 30, and we're saying this other guy chasing him is on his 21st year obsessed with his body and conditioning just may have surpassed him..... if we're debating it then you didn't pass him. You had 21 seasons to prove you're better and we're still debating with majority view in MJ's camp. That's crazy...How amazing is this man MJ for people to feel this way 25+ years later still? He didn't have to convince people this hard...He slept for 2 years in his 20s and gave you 6 rings and 25+ years later we're obsessively debating if someone is finally better than him with many saying no... LOL cmon man

[@meschoui760]

No one expected MJ, nuff said.​@@Ezekial2517

[@williebateman3613]

That’s deep commitment from you guys wow 🔥💪🏾🔥

[@anuppandey1269]

this is what got me into the game growing in 90s ☘️

[@allanawanyo4966]

As a laker fan its so annoying to see lebron playing better and having more will and energy than the other players

[@TeezyfolKKz]

😂, said no Laker fan ever…

[@jmgonzales7701]

​@TeezyfolKKz exactly

[@TeezyfolKKz]

@@jmgonzales7701 buddy a stan. Parading around like a Laker fan. 90% of the LAL fan base has been ready for dude to go.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@TeezyfolKKz agreed

[@MrYoungfox23]

Yall crazy

[@USD_Bug]

I like where that convo went.

[@ricerice566]

Love the part about how he said that if the number one player is outworking you, you'll never be able to catch up. That should motivate you to work harder.

[@igetmoney7510]

That last part by doc was phenomenal

[@Last1toBlast]

This session with Doc was one of the best of 23 straight 🔥 🔥 🫡

[@greg2797]

Pierce made a great point. Steph is so influential not only because of his greatness but what he is great at and what makes him great is more attainable than lets say a LeBron or a Shaq. Like yea you can work on watching and studying plays to try and be as smart as LeBron or you can work on jump hooks and fighting for positioning deep in the paint before you even touch the ball like Shaq but they pair their work ethic with their freakish bodies that most normal people cannot ever wish to have. And i'm not saying everyone is going to be able to shoot just like Steph or work as hard but it is more attainable for the average person to emulate his game. You can work on your shooting, you can work on your movement off the ball. He is 6'3 which isn't as far off form the average height of a male. He is someone you can actually realistically emulate fully. People like LeBron or Shaq or KD are just built different. Harder to try to emulate their game

[@sabledawn]

What Doc said pertains to almost every field in life. Y'all better listen.

[@CrownedGaming]

This was so dope lol

[@Crypto_nino]

Lebron will be 40 next year and still dominating is def unheard of

[@johnnythekid4601]

PED's help NOBODY LOOKS LIKE LEBRON WITHOUT HELP NOBODY!! BUT OF COURSE THE NBA WONT DRUG TEST HIM BECAUSE YOU'LL LOOSE THE GOLDEN GOOSE UNLESS YOU WANT TO ARGUE PEDS ARE ACTUAL LEGAL ONLY BECAUSE LEBRON TAKES THEM

[@DCFG92]

Because of Kobe Achilles injury

[@Love.hammer999]

He’s not dominating no league 🤣🤣🤣

[@jordanflores5687]

What's the lakers record again

[@kijja]

@@jordanflores5687team game orrr?

[@jacquelinjoseph3321]

Happy Birthday, King LeBron!

[@Superb_virg]

What he said about work ethic is spot on! We always confuse talent with work ethic

[@marcuswilliams7608]

I like the thought : they both have transcended the game

[@og_sonic]

Doc Rivers should be the new Lakers coach!

[@BigDelFromThe_O]

Love to see people give others their flowers while they’re still here

[@philipnickens8092]

Changing the game to shooting unwarranted 40 ft shots is exactly a good thing! Its a fuckin novelty

[@element-dh9dx]

The smoke and the hype.

[@ricardobjj24]

Happy Birthday to the King

[@BottingIsWhatIdo]

Weirdo calling another man king

[@dee4eva]

@@BottingIsWhatIdour 5’0🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Earl_E_Burd]

@@BottingIsWhatIdo Literal nickname is King James and he wears the crown

[@WarrenPuffet]

Meanwhile, Doc been stuck playing checkers for decades 😂

[@elishareilly7980]

Goofy comment sheltered statement

[@brayyoungin2433]

The KING 👑 💯🐐

[@RanielL]

The first video I watched where KG didn't interrupt the guest speaking.

[@garysalazar5279]

Lebron was playing chess while MJ was playing baseball! GOATS!

[@user-kz4dl9qh9n]

LeBron doesn't know how to play chess. He can't even write a proper sentence on Twitter. 😂

[@JB-ty8mv]

I bet he knows how to count his billion dollars, and live his dreams while some just live to dream.🦌🦌

[@user-kz4dl9qh9n]

@@JB-ty8mv Aww. Did I offend you by talking crap about your illiterate hero? 😂 🤡

[@rickyframbo1045]

Kg had his best player years early 2000

[@teacherbrad9534]

The best players always outwork the others.

[@frankiethefrog1752]

The best player on every team growing up is DEFINITELY not always the hardest worker. That’s just wishful thinking. I saw plenty of kids putting in more effort only to be smoked by natural talent especially at the high school level. LbJ was dominant his first NBA game that doesn’t mean he was instantly the hardest worker on the Cavs from day 1. He’s a transcendent talent who happened to of developed a crazy work ethic and dedication to his body early in his career.

[@Ril014]

At the end of the day unless you have 24 hour surveillance of someone you can’t say whether their talent is natural or actually work that they put in. And the kids you saw putting work could have only been doing that when you saw them and no time throughout the rest of their day

[@vladmkrtumyan1660]

if you're 6 foot 3 or below chances of you making the nba goes down insanely @@Ril014 so talent aka things you can't control are a huge factor, but I agree you can't really measure who works more.

[@frankiethefrog1752]

@@Ril014 lol I literally spent time with guys who took the workouts more seriously and the running regimes more seriously than I ever did but the majority of my peers didn’t ever outrun me or out lift me anywhere close to my weight class. I worked out with the lineman but was a WR/CB. Genetics and natural talent can’t be taught, only refined. Derrick Henry didn’t just work like crazy to be 6’2 225lbs while running a 4.4/4.5 in Highschool. 85% of that is god given natural talent and his genetics. Obviously in the pro’s where everyone was the top tier athlete growing up (for the most part) hard working and dedicated individuals will stand out but it’s definitely not as important at the middle/high school levels. That’s where they develop that work ethic though for the ones who do eventually go pro so it still definitely important.

[@micapalma9532]

where is he dominant frankie ? he has no dynasty. he jumps from team to team. if anything he is dominant is stats padding.

[@oneelduke]

MJ all day but like Coach Doc says, that's not putting LeBron down. LeBron is so good that he changed the mentality of players today. They have to manage their load during the regular season so that they can TRY TO keep up with him at the end of the regular season and playoffs. Now that is why LeBron is something we never seen before.

[@ceerez1002]

pause

[@DV-ou1yu]

I was managing mine this morning lmao

[@coreythomas3633]

Lebron the GOAT

[@sholovesholove4620]

I believe lebron is the GOAT, but I believe all the greats have their own lane because they are 1 of 1s.

[@nukenubz5087]

Manage their what? 🤔

[@byejinx1473]

🔥🔥

[@mikea6240]

If any kid is watching this, listen to the last part, hard work is the price of admission for any amount of success especially if you're not blessed with incredible athleticism or natural talent.

[@dre6osama394]

Greatest Ever🐐🗣 LBJ

[@Rico513]

The last 90 secs of this clip can be for PG lol. He acts like he the man...but whenever he gets put in the position when his big bro not around(Kawhi), he shrinks. Same with Harden 🤣

[@ceerez1002]

hes taking shots at Harden, hes been doing it alot since he got fired from the sixers job haha

[@clutch7548]

What are smoking. Harden was the #1 guy most his career

[@Rico513]

@@clutch7548 And when it matters most, when he is needed to be that #1 guy, what has he done? I'll wait

[@clutch7548]

@@Rico513 You didnt say finals. You just said “when his big brother Kawhi isnt around”. That implies regular season

[@fabianmarshall4120]

Nah Paulie killed when Kawhi was hurt. Took over Okc and got mvp votes with westrbook and played agaisnt wDe and lebrons hest team actually threatening them with the series. Hardens best team was with CP3

[@Mamby]

Kobe had Doc's understanding of if you're number 1 and you're out working the competition they will never be able to catch up.

[@jasonwucn]

The Tiger story line is 🥶🥶🥶

[@bobtwista]

I saw Mike, I grew up watching mike. Mike made me fall in love with basketball. Bron is a superior athlete, teammate, student of the game, and player. It’s easy when you’re not judging physical objective skills and ability through the lens of an emotional attachment.

[@tamarionchristmas2821]

People that hate Lebron and can’t accept that he’s an all time great are the same people that praise non winning qbs in football

[@BottingIsWhatIdo]

He’s all time great for sure, but he ain’t goat material plain and simple

[@frank-ko6de]

@@BottingIsWhatIdo Thank you for outing yourself, you ridiculous nonsense.

[@pabl0sauced0]

​@MrDamasterpiece let me guess kobe is 😂

[@Dipset415]

All all time greats are usually respected the reason why Lebron is not because his career has obviously been manufactured

[@Mason_23]

@@Dipset415that’s not true lebron is respected. He’s one of the all time greats. Idk where u get this narrative from u have 3 people who compete against him sitting in front of you appreciating and respecting his greatness.

[@TheYouTubeBusiness]

It still comes to work ethic 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@Coolcoolbear]

Glad they can talk about Ray now. Sucks to see them split apart

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

I will be more impressed when he plays ALL 82 games at 40 like MJ. He hasn't played 82 games since he left the Cavs to the Lakers, 6 seasons ago, and some seasons only maybe a little over half the games 🤯 instead now with all of the load mgmt. crap of today he probably won't, and if he has all that energy guys why not at least play in all the games? 😂😂

[@Ril014]

Mike was able to play 82 cause back in those days the physical exertion you had to output during a game was way less. He also wasn’t as agile and as Lebron is. You make it seem like Lebron is taking games off cause he’s lazy or something.

[@micapalma9532]

@@Ril014 Mike was able to play 82 cause back in those days the physical exertion you had to output during a game was way less - 🤣clearly your comment alone tells that you havent watch the 80' and 90's of the nba. grow up young fellow. its at youtube. watch the jordan rules of the bad boy pistons. surely lebron will le cry then le quit. Lebron is cheating the game. since joining the Lakers he hasnt accomplished anything serious yet. just stats padding. his Lakers accomplishment is the mickey mouse bubble 2020 and the looney tunes in season tournament. pathetic!

[@paranoia_xo]

@@Ril014 go watch Mike play and tell me he isn't more agile than Lebron in his athletic peak lol. He also played DEFENCE my friend, something Lebron hasn't given a fuck about for damn near 10 years bar some moments.

[@frederickhamilton5655]

92-97 babies to us Kobe was our Jordan !! 😎

[@Anarchy96]

Speak for yourself. Bron does more than anyone

[@BlackThenBlack]

Speak for yourself

[@frederickhamilton5655]

@@Anarchy96 you holding his 🥜 more then anyone

[@Anarchy96]

@@frederickhamilton5655 its always you weirdos that relate shit back to anything but basketball.

[@DCFG92]

@@Anarchy96 bron can’t win score or do anything but pass more than Kobe and Jordan stop the bs he’s top 3 but he’s not the best never has been never will be by far the best all around skill wise though

[@Chloethepomsky]

Paul pierce for 15 years gave his all for Boston he was an old man battling arguably the goat thank you truth and thank you big ticket KG as well and doc 🍀 shamrock ☘️

[@anuppandey1269]

my basketball gods🙏☘️

[@vn1_2]

*Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it. Building wealth involves developing good habits, such as regularly setting aside money for sound investments*

[@tiradovillarealefrain8329]

I invested in both Stock and Cryptocurrency but I see Crypto doing more better and profitable to me

[@LORDLIMISIIHG]

After meeting Mr Brian Taylor in the United States, my life changed completely. Yours can change too, it's just a matter of commitment and focus.

[@justicebell5140]

*Same here I'm celebrating a $30k stock portfolio today. started this journey with 6k. I have invested on time and also with the right terms now I have time for my family and the life ahead of me*

[@homarr7039]

Hello how do you make such monthly ?? I'm a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down 🤦‍♂️of myself because of low finance but I still believe in God.

[@mariarosinete4215]

Brian Taylor has normalized winning trades for me and it’s a huge milestone for me looking back to how it all started

[@DCFG92]

Bron is by far a better player then mj but when you look up what “goat” means that is mj all day when he won he dominated the comp of his era after he got a legit team

[@thereal415er]

Soooo then MJ is a better player....are you stupid?? Lol SMH

[@Maoistcaraxes]

That’s true though!!

[@sportstalkonly1442]

doesn't that make bill russell the goat? he won 11 in 13 years.

[@michaelwelsh7362]

🤢

[@wicklyfe8316]

quit in the middle of his prime twice cus he was a gambling addict

[@JekaraJNeal]

Yes🎉

[@Jr-42011]

I like that. How can you ever catch the best shooter or dribbler etc if they are still out working the rest in practice. I forgot the interview a young player talking about bron saying i would get to practice early like 6am and bein fosnt like that or something like that so next practice bron was in at 5am. Cant remebe exactly whatw as said but lebron at 38/39 out working the young ones. How can you catch him.

[@michaelfreeman124]

He has a solid core. Physically mentally and family. Those three things make this man still the chosen one.

[@micapalma9532]

mentally hahahahaha, man he choked ! he flopped, literally..watch nba finals 2010-2011. his superteam heat against mavs...specially game 4. he was guarded by a 6 foot jason terry. he was cooked. manage to only score 8 points! imagine a smaller opponent and he only had 8 points,,terrible..atrocious..shame

[@clutch7548]

@@micapalma9532yeah that was a choke. But mentally he still has been insanely disciplined for 20 years

[@micapalma9532]

@@clutch7548 what discipline you are talking about...so other players are not? Steph..Khawhi..PG..KD, these player dont have mental discipline. does that discipline Transend's greatness?

[@clutch7548]

@@micapalma9532 When did anyone say the word greatness?🤦🏼‍♂️ The original comment said he has a SOLID CORE. Obviously you need to be solid mentally to be one of the most disciplined athletes in history! I dont like Lebron, but hes worked extremely hard. Simple.

[@micapalma9532]

@@clutch7548 ...begs the question, solid core makes him most discipline.. so what does that entails him? just a discipline athlete? thats it. hence im concluding, does that make him "great"(greatness) or what? notice i mention Steph,,Kwahi etc..them player are good players. Steph and Khawhi has chips also... who cares if you are even the most discipline athlete? what does make you then....?

[@YetiCoolBrother]

MJ is the GOAT if you do that thing people do where you act like his whole career was 6 seasons.

[@quintonspencer1170]

While incorporating all his accomplishments from other years and omitting the failures

[@troynalls7073]

...with no playoff stats at 38 years old...while quitting for a couple seasons

[@PayAttEx]

Add to that MJ was "less than stellar off the court". Involved in gambling, his father got killed, divorced his wife. Dude managed to be Ja Morant even with no social media around.

[@PrinceCortezJones]

​@@quintonspencer1170 Facts!!!!

[@coreythomas3633]

LEBRON THE GOAT

[@steveg5074]

I’ve been watching basketball since Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, all the players, LeBron James, being the best plays that’s the best for the NBA. Then all of them go determines definition, not a player who leaves NBA who play baseball with a player who dedicate everything to the NBA and everybody in the NBA that’s my quote.

[@user-sf1dz6dr2w]

How dominant is he on defense?

[@williedavis3339]

Straight up, I saw both play. And I have no doubt that LeBron is the greatest of all-time periodt.... it's nothing wrong with Jordan being #2... js😎😱💯🙏

[@micapalma9532]

wrong, le flop(lebron) literally flopped.watch 2010-2011 nba finals. his superteam heat against mav. watch specially game 4. he was guarded by a smaller 6 foot jason terry. leflop had only 8 points. he was cooked ..hence he can never be a goat. that never happened to MJ...on the contrary, MJ is even better when and during all his championship game... i challenge you, watch the highest rating in nba history, '98 nba finals. just watch the last 3 minutes. that tells you he is indeed the goat. you can watch it at youtube..

[@AkronKid330]

​@micapalma9532 get over that flop bullcrap. All the great players flopped!! The only difference is social media, memes, editing. You name it

[@29mailliw]

​@@micapalma9532first off your wrong and you regurgitating the sentiments of Stephen A Smith talking about Jason terry. That's a false narrative and if you go back and look at the series which we all saw LeBron didnt choke . You didn't see the multiple schemes that Dallas put together. Not only did they not play man to man they zoned up on LeBron and it was not Jason terry for most of the finals they had the matrix Shawn Marion especially when they were in Dallas. Y'all so focused on one man . Basketball is a team sport and the one thing you forget in all this which I don't see none of you so called fans talk about only until the Golden State series is that Curry etc etc shot the lights out. Well dwade said it himself they couldn't stop jj barea kidd was shooting lights out Jason terry shooting lights out deshawn Stevenson shooting lights out Shawn Marion causing havoc and of course dirk. Heat had better talent Dallas had the better team. Dallas maximize their efforts to make sure they won the heat didn't make adjustments accordingly period. To say LeBron choked that finals is all based on the world being in absolute horror because he went there to Miami and many wanted him to lose because the balance of the east had shifted. Losing a championship is a big deal but the fact that he still since then played at a all-time level even now what I don't hear is y'all adding to his already impressive resume . There is no one that we will see in the next five to ten years do what he is doing period . Now if you want Jordan to be your ace cool but to call him leflop at this point is ridiculous. LeBron talked about the flopping even on his show on how it started because he is big and the refs wasn't calling fouls that he should get so he said himself well maybe he should start just to get more freethrow attempts .it's just as when Shaq felt he should be getting foul calls and he went to the league office and talked with stern about fouls and stern said your complaining about fouls when we got 29 teams complaining about you. And as big as LeBron is it's reasonable to assume many fouls won't go in his favor because yeah he does get fouled but the league is like oh well play through it. But when Jordan complained and Phil Jackson complained just like wilt Chamberlain told him years ago when they debated at halftime In Cleveland at the top 50 and he said Mike don't forget they changed the game to make it harder for me they changed the game to make it easier for you. And it's no question Everytime you got close to Michael especially late in games Mike was going to be at the foul line. Now Mike playing weight his heaviest at 215 now add another 50 lbs to that Mike would get the same treatment LeBron and wilt got. So cut it out with the le flop .and obviously you don't watch basketball go back and watch that whole series with Dallas and you will clearly see Jason terry was not on him Especially most of the time . Oh but I forgot you only watch one man LeBron just as u only probably saw only Jordan and think he won six chips by himself . And I saw both of their careers the better basketball player is LeBron now if you want to say Jordan is the better winner in terms of championships cool but he don't got more than bill Russell. And arguably playing against fewer teams but playing them 10 times plus playoffs could also be argued that it's far more hard to win in a era like that than in 30 teams because let's be honest you can rack up wins against teams that is not playoff or even championship contenders . You put that same bulls team in a league with the 96 teams who all made the playoffs they not beating the New York Knicks ten straight times in a regular season they not beating the sonics jazz magic rockets etc etc 10 straight times they damn sure ain't winning 70 games . Yeah it can be done in a 30 team but in a 8 team or 16 team league that's absurd to think such. Even before Mike won and they choked 3 straight years since you talking about choking now I was just being funny but imagine an 8 team league and Detroit is one of them at that time ten games in a regular season not including playoffs they was already getting wupped just playing Detroit 6 times ,yeah they snuck a few games but they sure as hell got it handed to em. And be honest nobody never called LeBron a flopper until he did that vs the bulls in the playoffs when he was with Miami so all them years before he wasn't a flopper so what's with all the name calling and hate yet he continues to dominate. Look at Kevin Durant he stole two championships but now he in trouble in Phoenix because he can't lead he has no excuses Jamal Murray played great lost to LeBron in the west finals in the bubble came back after an injury for two years now they on top we haven't heard from Durant since he was with the warriors so that speaks on how great LeBron is even at age 39 . Finally the fact that doc Rivers kg and Paul saying what they knew about LeBron speaks volumes and because he is unselfish let's keep it real the one game or better yet two games showed that if LeBron wanted to pass up Mike he could but he rather play a team game is the game 5 in Detroit and game 6 in Boston and if he wanted everybody knew what we all saw the whole league would be in trouble . Dwade said it and everyone knew it. That LeBron if he wanted could destroy teams even better than Mike. Just listen to his peers who talked about LeBron and how hard it was for them instead of buying into the skip Bayless Stephen a Smith of the world . Maybe you should go watch when Mark cuban destroyed skip argument and Stephen a couldn't say a word because the truth was said only until this year did you hear that crap about Jason terry guarded LeBron as if it was the whole game when that was a lie.

[@duncanhall7228]

The people who literally played against both MJ and Lebron mostly say MJ. And the people who played with or against MJ and coached against Lebron led teams also mostly say MJ. And these aren't guys like today's players, they don't just heap praise on people who don't deserve it, and a lot of them hated Mike. They'd love an opportunity to crown someone over him but they can't because they say him up close and personal.

[@micapalma9532]

@@AkronKid330 perhaps you should be the one to get over this BS bron manufactured greatness or chosen one..he literally flopped! watch the nba finals his super team against the mavs...specially game 4. leflop had only 8 points, guarded by jason terry and barea. to think both guards are smalle than Lebron...

[@heirrose1606]

Age 38-39 season Last 24 seconds: Jordan 4-8 50% LeBron 2-11 18% Dominating? LeBron, Curry and KD barely trying to make the play-in tournament FFS. Curry doesn't get enough credit? Does Doc have early onset Alzheimer's? Shameful for these 3 to sit there ballwashing LeBron

[@drjamesalfondc]

Doc is spitting some real knowledge right now. This is applicable in all aspects of life, not just basketball. Mans got it figured out.

[@showapower3991]

Too bad he didn’t figured when his team was up 3-1 😂

[@drjamesalfondc]

@@showapower3991 😂 fax

[@onyeilonyeil9468]

Now dats GREATNESS. Tiger Woods played golf in d rain, b/c he anticipated dat it might rain in the open. DATS GREATNESS

[@kingshoesss]

I agree with the 3 of hall of Fame , this is Why Lebron is The GOAT of this era. At the age of 39 and 21 years in the league he is still on the top the league. Can't believe it. Now he is the point guard of his team. Unbelievable 💪👑🐐🐐🐐

[@JumpOffHisNutts]

PEDs it’s not hard to believe

[@micapalma9532]

what era is he dominating? sorry but that is judt stat padding. he aint winning chips. he doesnt have a dynasty, so what era is he dominating?...

[@paranoia_xo]

how does a player that has never built a dynasty considered dominating? Man the standards of WINNERS and GREATNESS have really tipped in this soft, participation trophy era. People putting this guy in the same breath as Michael Jordan are complete morons.

[@Twomps]

Hes won 4 rings and went to the finals for about a decade straight and these goofys say what has he dominated.

[@paranoia_xo]

@@Twomps who did he beat to get to those finals exactly? While also stacking with the other best players in the conference? Damn he really dominated teams composed of Kyle Lowry, Demar Derozan and Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver. WHAT A GOAT

[@eastbee1034]

LeBROIDS IS NOT PLAYING DEFENSE FOR YEARS NOW!!

[@jmgonzales7701]

How is he on roids

[@RG-ct6qz]

Russell played chess. Most people never understood that.

[@rico8722]

“15? Pshhh”🤣🤣🤣classic Doc

[@Martell-np2ur]

Bigger faster stronger, better scorer, rebounder, passer and defender. How can mj possibly be the best bball player ever? Not a chance

[@DCFG92]

Mj jumped through people and was the fastest player until ai came in mj shoots mids better than bron can shoot fts so the scoring part is cap and bron is a trash defender

[@BottingIsWhatIdo]

How many dpoy does lebrona have ? How many scoring titles does lebrona have to MJs scoring titles ? How many rings does lebrona have? 😂😂 put that fentanyl down you delusional little boy

[@PrinceCortezJones]

Not a better defender but much more versatile. But yeah MJ definitely isn't better than Bron though

[@coreythomas3633]

​@@DCFG92HE DIDN'T JUMP THROUGH KD OR STEPH CURRY

[@coreythomas3633]

​@@PrinceCortezJoneslebron a BETTER DEFENDER. SCOTTIE WAS THE BEST DEFENDER FOR THE BULLS..

[@coreythomas3633]

HE THE GOAT

[@micapalma9532]

hahahahaha he can never be the goat. man he choked ! he flopped, literally.. watch nba finals 2010-2011. his superteam heat against mavs...specially game 4. he was guarded by a 6 foot jason terry. he was cooked. manage to only score 8 points! imagine a smaller opponent and he only had 8 points,..,terrible..atrocious..shame

[@PearlzB4Swine]

Fax

[@coreythomas3633]

@@micapalma9532 MJ fans dont know # MJ never won without Scottie and phill Jackson. # choked a 2-1 lead against PISTON # was a LOSER below 500 BEFORE tgey drafted Scottie PIPPEN. #been swept twice #NEVER BEAT LARRY BIRD IN HIS PRIME #beat the WEAKEST COMPETITION aka expansion league. #never beat the best competition in the finals like (GSW,SPURS). #got a first round pick,STILL CHOKED WITH THE WIZARDS.)........

[@coreythomas3633]

@@micapalma9532 MJ 6-0 IS OVERRATED IT NOT A INDIVIDUAL SPORT IT A TEAMSPORT. MJ had the better head coach and team. Had to QUIT TWICE because he couldn't get pass the first round. WITHOUT SCOTTIE OR PHILL JACKSON. phill Jackson won 5 CHIPS WITHOUT MJ. Mj QUITE because he couldn't win without Scottie and phill. OVVERATED 6-0 FINALS RECORD A WEAK ARGUMENT. None of those TEAMS MJ FACE. was better than dynasty spurs and dynasty warrior. MAVS SWEPT KOBE COMING OFF A CHIP,beat OKC kd thunder and a good Portland team. Stop it,LEBRON THE GOAT.

[@coreythomas3633]

@@micapalma9532 MJ OVVERATED. CLYDE DREXLER BLAZERS,CHARLES BARKLEY SUNS,GARY PAYTON SONICS,UTAH JAZZ,AND A OLD MAGIC JONHSON. IS NOT BETTER THAN 73-9 GSW PLUS KD. NOT BETTER THAN 2007,2013,2014 SPURS. 2011 MAVS SWEPT KOBE COMING OFF BACK2BACK FINALS. MJ 6 0 IS OVVERATED 😂

[@user-ry4gp4ry6y]

What have lebron won at age 39 please tell me

[@Violet-ss7nd]

💯

[@MrAaronchicago]

And y’all think Jokic is high IQ imagine if Lebron was white the world would be saying how smart he is

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Reaching hard. Bron been known as highest IQ player for over a decade.

[@MrMasbest]

Those who think they can be Steph must be trippin. Just cus you cant be Lebron or KD doesnt incease ur chances of being the best shooter in the world lol.

[@pavolzabojnik6859]

I forgot about time listening to Doc.

[@constancefaison4004]

❤❤❤

[@JMB72]

If LBJ is playing chest, then he must be playing checkers against the Nuggets and Boston. He cant WILL his team over the best teams anymore. Its frustrating because we may have got him too damn late.

[@thediseaseisthecure]

The thought of someone as dumb as Lebron staring blankly at a chess board is pretty hysterical though

[@christianpaul-cp6746]

Believe what you see during games, not the media’s biased takes. I’ve been a Laker fan since ‘87 and it’s frustrating to see how LBJ is watering down our franchise culture.

[@pabl0sauced0]

​@christianpaul-cp6746 "watering down laker culture" guess you missed kobe's last stretch on the lakers.

[@treyj.751]

What Bron did was bring the Lakers back to relevancy after Kobe got that extension after the acl injury and essentially hijacked the franchise and Bron still their best player at freaking 39 not his fault AD hasn't been consistent. Fake fans like ya'll just talk down on that man for superficial reasons not even related to basketball

[@chalupakingsama]

Lmfao y’all clowns he’s not suppose to he’s 39

[@Jake-im8eq]

Steph transformed the game more than Bron for sure. But he is no where near LeBron’s level in terms of skill and dominance. I think Steph gets too little credit for his influence and too much credit for his dominance, since he has been on one of the most stacked rosters ever. Like KD was better than him for 2 of his chips. You can’t say that about LeBron, MJ, etc

[@reishakyu3553]

shaq was the best player during their threepeat but that aint taking anything over kobes greatness, why should it take stephs? and no, steph was always the bus driver of the golden state as its best player, KD only benefited off of HIS team which is STEPHS team while kobe benefited off of shaq, shaq was a veteran, it was his team and he was the best player so one could argue steph was the MAN for all his rings and theres legitimate proof, KD cant won anything even though he had just as much as star caliber teammates all his teaming up failed while steph contends and won one, so it was his dynasty all along he was always the best player in his team

[@clutch7548]

@@reishakyu3553Steph wasnt a better player, it was just his culture. He was the leader.

[@clutch7548]

@@reishakyu3553 Players disagree, so do finals mvp voters

[@clutch7548]

@@reishakyu3553 Players didnt think Iggy was better. Dont ignore that part. The conversation for years was Durant or Lebron who’s the best.

[@clutch7548]

@@reishakyu3553 and Curry didnt play that well in 2015 finals

[@morrisbailey1621]

You always hear people say it's not checkers it's chess. But everyone can't play chess. Sometimes it is checkers. Keep it simple. The strong take from the weak and the smart take from the strong.

[@xXYellowFlashXx]

Different goats for different generations

[@holypoop88]

How LJ is still appearing to play well: 1) Has played his whole career in the most diluted defensive era of basketball. He’s avg 25ppg now, that’s 19ppg in 2001. 2) Hasn’t played close to a full season in 5 years. He’s missed nearly 2 seasons worth of games in those 5 years 3) Slacks on defense and is a liability 4) He spends millions each season on his body to stay in healthy enough shape to keep playing. 5) Thus, his longevity is overrated

[@Manolo8988]

Hes playing chess? Men is a defensive lyabilty, he just give you 2 or 3 chase down blocks weekly so yall can say hes guarding but isnt, you cant tell he can run no more his time is done, not even kareem at 40 was this lazy in defense

[@Mike-qm7ry]

Apparently Bron plays chess on the court over defense these days. Free Darvin Ham...😒

[@phillipcotton833]

I'm not about to dispute Doc Rivers. I'm just gonna say this...if Lebron wasn't a " student " of the game the moment he entered the league, he DAMN SURE had a higher I Q than any rookie I've ever seen....maybe Magic was equal. Bron from day ONE played like he belonged...instant leadership. Truly somethin special!!!

[@clutch7548]

No playoffs for 2 years. High turnovers. He had a lot to work on coming in

[@phillipcotton833]

@@clutch7548 no doubt he had to "work" on his game....like all rookies, but Bron was BONIFIED NBA READY. Also consider the overall talent on that Cavs roster ,& he guides them to the Finals in year 3. All I'm saying is...maybe he wasn't a " Master" Chess player, but Bron didn't step in the league playing Checkers.

[@clutch7548]

@@phillipcotton833 It was mostly the grown man body like you said. I dont mean to argue sir, but Magic came after playing 3-4 years in college. His IQ was better

[@phillipcotton833]

@@clutch7548 no argument....point well taken 👍

[@shaftlamer]

what utter drivel. just watch angry old hoops fan dismantle the idiotic narrative of leflop being dominant.

[@thediseaseisthecure]

AOH and UncommonCents are way more dominant

[@The-Real-One-]

Until someone transcends the game like MJ does playing offense and defense as a smaller guy... 2 separate three peats. Dominance... and if you never saw MJ play live.. i can guarantee you are a Lebron fan... becuz you dont know and didnt see MJ

[@TLR1988]

Lol

[@TLR1988]

Those 3 peats only price how ASS the trans as a whole were. Too many good players to 3 peats and any real basketball fan knows that. He didn't transcend the game on defense, he just didn't have to guard real ball handlers for real and was obviously bigger than the guys he faced. Iverson proved that his rookie year cruising him up stupid. LeBron is the reason all of these big men and big guards don't the league with their playmaking ability which has nothing to do with MJ. Y'all dudes really act like y'all can't see. That man guarded a bunch of no handle nobody's yet only only has a couple hundred more steals and 200 less blocks than LeBron but let y'all tell it, LeBron has never played any defense. Name 5 people MJ HAD to guard that were tough if you can even think of 3.

[@thediseaseisthecure]

@@TLR1988 Right, the league was garbage until Lebron was drafted 😆😆😆😆

[@emilamore2152]

15? 😂😂😂😂 coach was “you sure it wasn’t a decade earlier? And Paul Pierce kinda agreed with that sentiment 😂😂😂

[@user-sx5fn8yo5s]

A 39 year old man outsmarting 20 year old kids is greatness . Gtfoh

[@estherstephens1858]

Everybody wants to be great but nobody wants to put in the work.

[@stubborndreams]

he forgot to mention james harden in the talk...he paved the way for iso quarterback type basketball...maybe it's still too soon for him lol...clippers for 2023 champs

[@a.m.617]

When Bron retire Kg and Truth please invite Shump and DeRozan

[@jonpoon3896]

Is it just me or is Doc’s voice clearing up?

[@PercyTVEE]

😂😭😂

[@markoneil5013]

I love how people who aren't experts in chess, like to compare everything to chess.