Doctor Who 9x04 "Before the Flood" Reaction

[@MyAbridged]

It's scenes like the intro that just make me think how insanely gifted of an actor Capaldi is. There's a few moments in Doctor Who where you can truly see how great of an actor the people playing the role are, Troughton in his talk with Victoria about his family, Tom Baker's 'Do I have the right?' speech, Sylvester McCoy with the guards in The Happiness Patrol, and pretty much all of Capaldi's monologues like this deserve to be recognized among them.

[@MrDylancutter]

I don't like Series 9 at all, but it's so true that some of Capaldi's best acting is featured in it - particularly in some episodes to come for Sesska! Twelve isn't even my favourite Doctor but I think Capaldi is the most talented actor to play him.

[@MyAbridged]

I honestly have to disagree. Of the New Who actors he's far and away the best actor of the five of them. But I don't think he's better than Troughton. I think Troughton has to be the single most gifted actor to play the Doctor, to put it this way, I don't think Enemy of the World could have worked with any of the other actors playing the Doctor, simply because I don't think they could have matched Troughton's performance in that series. That's not to say 2 is my favourite Doctor, he's only third IMO (after 7 and 12), but I think he was the best actor of any of them. Though of course, this is only my silly opinion

[@MrDylancutter]

That's interesting! I much prefer both Ten and Eleven to Twelve, but I've always thought that Capaldi is the more talented actor, and gave the best performances (can't say what episodes because she hasn't reacted to them yet, but I'm sure you can guess which ones I mean). His speeches in general are usually chilling too. Though having seen Jodie Whittaker's performance in Broadchurch, the title of best acted Doctor might change when 13 takes over! :)

[@Mrazmatmahmood]

Dylan C Tennant is just as talented an actor as Capaldi imo. His performances in stories like Human Nature/The Family of Blood, Midnight and The Waters of Mars match any of Capaldi's best.

[@SpectrumStorms]

If I had to rank each actor, here's how I'd do it. Best Actors: Patrick Troughton Jon Pertwee Colin Baker Peter Capaldi Great Actors Tom Baker Sylvester McCoy David Tennant Good Actors:William Hartnell Paul McGann Christopher Eccleston Decent Actors: Peter Davison Meh Actors: Matt Smith(TBH, Eleven still has yet to win me over)

[@DaveF.]

The bootstrap paradox - one of Moff's favourite tricks - right back to Blink (who first wrote the Doctor's half of the Easter Egg?) - through the Library (who gave the Doctor the idea to give River his screwdriver?) and onto the silly Time/Space (who's idea was it to throw the 'wibbly lever'?) - it's a staple of time-travel stories, of course - but it's so much fun to have it explicitly mentioned. Plus, Capaldi playing guitar over the theme tune. Epic.

[@archive9796]

This episode isn’t written by Moffat know

[@MyAbridged]

Moffat's Doctor Who writing style really has used the same tricks since right back to The Curse of Fatal Death to be honest

[@DaveF.]

Yes, I know. I didn't say he was.

[@lvis11tj7]

Dave F why can't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 7991 0313, gave you some information, he wasn't rude about it, he wasn't mean about it....I just don't get it, why is it so important to be right?

[@chinareds54]

MyAbridged considering that Jenna admitted that the DW crew had coined a new term for the paradox, I'd say most view it as his signature move.

[@LiamCatterson]

That opening scene is one of the best things to happen in Series 9!

[@MyAbridged]

It's one of the best things to happen in New Who, arguably one of those great little moments that resonates out through the entire show

[@willparks3429]

The song that writes itself, conundrum , is the word

[@turinturambar1688]

The greatest thing is that peter capuldi can actually play guitar and truly is shredding those notes

[@ДаняШиряев-п6е]

people know or rather say "very few people understand" when viewing the 9th season, 3-4 series, that Doctor Who really really died! But one version of the Doctor saved lives for other incarnations. The fixed moment is the death of Twelfth, the Doctor in the fight against ghosts at the underwater station, he really dies, but the past incarnation of the doctor will find out his future life. replaces the specter with a hologram from which he dies in a single streaming temporal reality. The doctor did not break the fixed point. This is stated in the lectures on Beethoven, he himself became a ghost, and the present: never existed. (TV: at the bottom of the lake, before the flood).

[@Frederick279]

That's really him playing guitar aswell.

[@Imabassplayer2]

And the amp is made by Magpie a cool little easter egg going back to Tennant's era.

[@Ladco77]

I love that Peter Capaldi played the guitar backing to the intro. It was a famous speech delivered by 12 that really made Capaldi my favorite Doctor.

[@osumarko]

In the previous episode Clara had a line about the Doctor making a clockwork squirrel. In the opening scene you can see it on the amplifier. Also, the amp's label says Magpie Electronics , which is from The Idiot's Lantern back during season 2.

[@AS-wk9gg]

Clara and twelfth have the definition of a doctor and companion relationship! They are the best together! Same with 7 and Ace.

[@MyAbridged]

Have to mention my personal favourite Doctor/Companion relationship of all time, 2 and Jamie

[@archive9796]

BLASPHEMY UTTER BLASPHEMY

[@JayceMaxwell]

I have to disagree the the 12/Clara relationship is positive, but for reasons I can't disclose here until Jess finishes the series. I enjoy series 9 and Clara, and the flaws in their relationship are by design. The reasons people tend to dislike Clara are the reasons her character is so compelling.

[@Richard_Ashton]

Ace was, well... just ace. Also, she almost died in real life on the show. McCoy the life saver.

[@whobp8]

I love when the ghost is dragging the axe after Cass, who is oblivious to the danger she's in because she can't hear it. A simple idea for creating tension. Why this story perhaps isn't as memorable or popular as some others, it has a lot of nice moments in it.

[@ReversedPolarity]

Loved this two parter a lot! Really clever writing from Toby Whithouse. The guy went from a poetic monologue about Beethoven's 5th to a horror story with ghosts to an action packed adventure with an old school alien to very dramatic moments between the Doctor, Clara and the underwater base team to a logical conclusion that involves the Bootstrap Paradox and the Doctor's ghost and closes on a poetic loop back to Beethoven's 5th. This is what Doctor Who does best - many flavoured surprises in one fantastic package.

[@ms_scribbles]

It's why I wish one day he'll be the showrunner. He's so good at this stuff. Just see Being Human UK as an example. Great writer, that man.

[@ReversedPolarity]

StormWolf True, I had some doubts a few years ago that he could pull that showrunner deal but the guy is amazing and one of the best writers in series 9. I think he would be a great showrunner, some amazing stories are part of his collection. Then again, Chibnall might prove to us that it takes more than one-time seasonal writing to be a showrunner and I hope he does that too. But maybe someone will give Toby Whithouse his well-deserved turn one day.

[@thegrimmretails3777]

Toby Whithouse gave us Being Human. If you loved this episode, check out that series.

[@Aaron-fg3ww]

Season 9 is just incredible, it gets better with each repeat viewing too.

[@intru3915]

2:06 (after a year) Fun fact: The answer is in the question " *Who* really composed Beethoven's 5h"

[@Lukecash2]

This opening was the best when explaining a time traveling paradox!

[@Lukecash2]

I think your comments are spot on with regards to the Clara Doctor relationship. 11th relationship with Clara was based more on "Who is Clara" then last season was based more on Will Clara accept 12. Now 12 and Clara have a great groove working and the stories can be more focused on the events at hand.

[@glenmcculla6843]

I do love that intro. And the "Doctor thrashes out some power chords" version of the theme rocks - they should have kept it for the whole season.

[@ZakJordan98]

The Fisher Kings roars in this episode are done by Corey Taylor from Slipknot and Stone Sour

[@quantumbanana]

another trivia - the actor in the suit of the fischer king has since died, he was only like 30...

[@ms_scribbles]

Yeah, it was sad. It really sucks that people who grow that tall are so susceptible to heart failure and other ways the internal organs can't handle a body that large. :( Another bit of trivia Sesska would find interesting is that the actor (Neil Fingleton) also played Mag the Mighty, one of the giants, in Game of Thrones.

[@liamroberts1458]

@@ms_scribbles Andre the Giant had the same problem, more or less, didn't he?

[@archive9796]

The Alien Undertaker Albar Prentis is a Tivolian, a reference to another Toby Whithouse episode “The God Complex” which had a Tivolian called Gibbis

[@MrHunkmccoy]

And Albar Prentis was portrayed here by Paul Kaye who most people might know better from Game of Thrones where he plays Thoros of Myr, the red priest who keeps resurrecting Beric Dondarrion.

[@tobygirdler972]

Series 9 is one of my favourites. You’re right the stories are more complex and I think it works brilliantly.

[@cutthr0atjake]

Season 9 was my favourite New Who series & this was my favourite episode of the year. Loved the build up of tension along with the explanation of the boot strap paradox for those new comers.

[@cypher515]

Okay, here's the _second_ inadvertent sign by the Doctor from last episode: when talking to Clara and saying the whole 'duty of care' thing, his hand makes the ASL shape for "I love you". I am not certain whether the Doctor accidentally 'said' that, or Capaldi. And at 6:02 -- I shot a Look at my brother when she said that. He shot me one back. That sounded extremely revealing on the part of Clara's state of mind, at least how Jenna said it. (Combine it with 'he was ... impossible' from "Last Christmas", and it also seems to say something.)

[@cypher515]

Oh, and Corey Taylor from Slipknot was 'in' this. He voiced (part of) the roar of the Fisher King.

[@ativoflegacy]

Thoughout the season there are hints of Clara and the Doctor feeling deeper for one another. This was probably Moffat pleasing the Whofalldi shippers, but not annoying the non-shippers by not having it explicitly stated. I guess its up to interpretation what the relationship between the two really is

[@jiga6832]

Everybody was searching bootstrap paradox when this episode air Capaldi is genius

[@IkeOld]

This episode helped me a lot to explain thoughts I had for a long time. Like the bootstrap paradox, we often say “if I go back in time, I would change this or that”. But it doesn’t work like that. In the first place, by changing it, you would remove the reason for going back and cause this paradox. But if you could work around, you don’t know what is going to happen instead. We are not defined by our past, but by our memories and experiences. They made who you are today. Focus on what makes you happy today, not what might have made you happy in the past.

[@archive9796]

I think the reason 12 explains the Bootstrap Paradox is that people called Angels Take Manhattan bad cous they didn’t understand the Pre Destination Paradox

[@ReversedPolarity]

Maybe... It's a good bet at least. And as the legend says: until this day, a lot of people still don't understand the implications of Angels Take Manhattan.

[@ReversedPolarity]

TweedJacketProductions Or not. Just because you don't know the side implications, doesn't mean the integrity of the story, or even the lore, is shattered... people are so hell bent in shattering the integrity of these stories when different phenomena can happen in time travel in specific situations and in specific changes, that's how you can explain the absence of the Reapers in certain paradox stories, for instance. Or how the Doctor can actually bend the rules a little bit if he "lies to the universe".

[@WolfGratz]

No - it may mean they reject the Predestination concept. Period. But there are also other reasons to consider the thing fuller of holes than a very, very holey thing

[@ReversedPolarity]

WolfGratz If you're refuting possibilities of a logical chain of events, you're halfway near to accepting miracles. It's a brilliant reverse engineering, especially for those who believe in an alternative to dismiss information. Man, those flat Earthers may be right after all - a couple of wells really might show the Earth is flat. This isn't a donut or a swiss cheese, lad. There's different phenomena going on all the time in Doctor Who. Keeping the consistency is hard enough for any writer, but even if we can't fully explain every implication, we can assume some facts may lead to those conclusions. Until this day, nobody has problems with a blind Doctor on a computer like he was Daredevil, but they have problems with unknown phenomena. Choose your plotholes wisely...

[@chanceneck8072]

Predestination??? FANTASTIC Movie! 😉

[@toonguy7739]

I swear, Capaldi is so goddamn good at this. Whoever suggested he start playing the guitar should be given some sort of medal. Also, kiss at the end was cute, one of the few times I tend to buy the romances between one-off characters.

[@tylerbailey9329]

That really is Peter playing the guitar btw.

[@mussoletart8485]

I really love this episode. So many little moments and cool concepts, and it's also visually exciting. The Fisher King design is really great, and I love the moment when the flood hits, too.

[@dannybob42]

I love the opening scene, not just for Beethoven on Electric Guitar into the intro (which I wish stayed as the new riff) but the subtle implication that the Doctor was Beethoven - an old chap, very intense, sound familiar? - it's a great way to introduce the Bootstrap Paradox too The Fisher King costume is kinda cool actually, very Lord of the Rings vibe Next up, things are gonna be a stark contrast to what you've seen before...

[@CrankyGrandma]

I so love Capaldi's "aging rock star" version of the Doctor. I wish they'd gone with that his first season. This was a solid episode. I forgot how gosh darn creepy it was. I completely agree about Clara and the Doctor. I found Clara a character who was written all over the place in her time on Who, but this season everything seems to click.

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Cranky Grandma I see him as the crazy uncle Doctor, and I love it.

[@StevenHouse1980]

The Doctor Who Minisode "Time Crash" Is a "bootstrap paradox."

[@aguyonyoutube9264]

This two parter is like something out of the 1970s and I love it

[@MyAbridged]

This is one of the stories I'd really liked to have seen done in Classic Who format though. This, Mummy on the Orient Express and one or two others would have been amazing as a four part serial rather than a two parter

[@Mrazmatmahmood]

MyAbridged A two parter in new who is pretty much the equivalent of a classic four parter though.

[@MyAbridged]

In terms of length, yes. In terms of pacing and writing, I would disagree.

[@zaniyahowell5556]

"This isn't about saving me, i'm a dead man walking. Im changing history to save Clara". Doctor and companion goals to the max l. Willing to do anything for Clara. Along with the 10th,9th and 11th doctors I love this doctor and their companion relationships.

[@The2Coolest2]

Was hoping you caught the reference to the "This is security protocal 712", the line Tennant said during "Blink"

[@bletheringfool]

Capaldi really did play the opening theme on his guitar

[@seapea7402]

Love the rock remix of the theme music... can it stay please? The Doctor breaking the 4th wall to tell us about Beethoven and the bootstrap paradox was such a wonderfully unexpected cold opening and your reaction was amazing :)

[@theInsaneDoctor]

Peter Capaldi used to be in a band with Craig ferguson, who is also a whovian

[@deathswitch2404]

Fun fact : Corey Taylor (Singer for Slipknot and Stone Sour) did the voicework for the monster's roars in this episode.

[@deebeedaydreamer]

I forgot the theme remix. It's awesome.

[@patlogic9512]

I like the brand name on the amp. Nice callback.

[@Lukecash2]

This was a very suspenseful episode. The only thing truly lacking was a more well rounded bad guy.

[@archive9796]

Which is a shame as the costume is excellent

[@ReversedPolarity]

Yup, that was the only big criticism I can make of this brilliant episode. The villain is one of the most lackluster. Then again, it's very old school in its presentation.

[@Lukecash2]

I think that is really that is the problem with a lot of the "monsters of the week" type shows. Which the Doctor Who is: The focus is on the Doctors adventure. But when I think how the Minutor monster in "The God Complex" it's motives were far more complex

[@ReversedPolarity]

Michael Lukash, indeed. I think the audiences nowadays are a bit more demanding of villains because deep down we know the world is not black and white. Evil isn't born, it's made (well... most times), but we only see part of that happening in the show. We didn't even know the Fisher King's backstory and that gray area is precisely why I loved the God Complex's minotaur. I know the Whoniverse is a universe full of things that want to eat you, but still... it's not always about an evil plan and I appreciate a well-rounded villain.

[@Alexandrashepiro]

I love the Bootstrap Paradox scene! Anytime we get to Hear Peter play the Guitar... ..It's Awesome! Love the Fisher King! Anytime we get to see Ghosts in Doctor Who, as a Ghost Hunter, it's cool! Next week...Oh Man...Can't wait for Next Week!

[@k_who-7706]

The main villain was called the Fisher King and he was played by three actors Corey Taylor did the scream of the Fisher King and Peter Serafinowicz from Shaun of the dead did the voice and finally Neil Fingleton wore the costume.

[@runshouse]

Love the head bop when the Doctors theme comes on.

[@godoflemmings17]

Funny story - literally only came across your videos today, didn't bother looking at upload dates and assumed you'd stopped at 9x03 😂 hope you're enjoying! It's great seeing first time reactions again!

[@caomhan84]

The show missed a golden opportunity here to remind the viewers that Clara lost her mom, she lost Danny, she isn't close to her dad....so the Doctor really is all she has. That annoys me whenever I watch this episode. With a little bit of context, it makes her reaction to his "death" really understandable. I've seen people say she's selfish in that scene. But she really isn't if you think about it.

[@archive9796]

caomhan84 especially cous her mum inspired her to travel, I wish Clara had filled in the “101 places I’ve seen book” Which she had s7

[@MyAbridged]

The thing is, she is selfish. Clara is a selfish and at times unpleasant person. The thing I like though about 12's era is that these characters are that way, and do get treated more that way. Admittedly moreso in season 8 than 9, but in both the Doctor and Clara are portrayed as much more fallible people who get acknowledged as being that way, as opposed to in older New Who stuff where you'd have characters like Rose or 10 being just as bad, and really unpleasant, but who never get called out on it, rather being karma houdinis and 'designated heroes' Clara is being selfish and unpleasant, but she's supposed to be, and is treated as such by other characters, as opposed to being selfish and unpleasant, but being treated as perfect

[@caomhan84]

*Shrug*....People are different and deal with emotions differently. People process grief differently. Just because you'd act differently in her place doesn't make her reaction bad per se, especially since it was in the heat of the moment. Careful to avoid spoilers here in case Jess reads, but especially considering what happens with Clara ultimately, I think she redeems herself for whatever selfishness she showed here. Besides, go back further to Series 7. Look what she did there. She had no idea what would happen when she stepped into the Doctor's timestream. She sacrificed herself, the ultimate UNselfish act. So really, all she's showing here is that she's human.

[@caomhan84]

MyAbridged....yeah, I'd agree with that.

[@JayceMaxwell]

MyAbridged - exactly. Clara is a companion defined just as much by her faults as by her strengths, and that gives her more depth. Series 9 had to play out the way it did, due to her faults, the Doctor's faults, and the unhealthy relationship they developed. Too bad any more delving would be spoiler territory.

[@mohangrewal1466]

Series 9 constantly addresses the issue of "breaking the rules of time" and whether its morally good or not. Anyways, the next episode is one of my faves of this season. :D

[@Hanmacx]

And we all googled it! And Google exploded xD

[@chinareds54]

Hanmacx some of us didn't. We were instead wondering why they decided to make a big deal out of it when it's Moffat's trademark move.

[@YoRocky89]

Liked that reference to The Master (Harold Saxon) as well as the concept of the bootstrap paradox. Another great reaction, looking forward to next week. :)

[@jiga6832]

17:13 best doctor who soundtrack after the breaking wall

[@markmckeown87]

Are you referring to the track at the end of ep 11? Soundtrack has been out 2-3 weeks now, it's called The Shepherd's Boy =]

[@migbarr3806]

The best DW opening ever.

[@FBGMMike]

Fun behind the scenes fact: The Fisher King was portrayed by Corey Taylor of the Metal band Slipknot

[@The.Badger.]

Trivia: At the beging, when Capaldi was playing the guitar and it goes into the title credits, thats still Capaldi playing theme tune on guitar!!

[@geoffmason7215]

so much GOLD coming....

[@bronlokis]

13:35 "aww, they're having a little hangout. that's cute... I don't think.. I don;t... I dooon;t... I doooooon;t... I don;t I don;t I don;t eeeee!!" luvya

[@cag3891]

G'day Jess. Hope your well. A few things. Just like the rest of season 9, I really like this episode. So much confinement, and darkness. Its a good old base under siege episode that Doctor Who has been doing for 50 years. One thing I am sad you miss is how Cass used her own sense on touch to get out of the situation. The effects for that I think were brilliant. Also I don't know about you or anyone else, but I got a Back to the Future vibe about the TARDIS (when I first watch it on ABC Australia) returning to the same spot, The Doctor and Bennett. Just like Marty saw himself in BTTF2 looking at the events of the first Back to the Future movie.

[@jonjohns8145]

Dat intro though!! Beethoven never sounded this Badass .. :)

[@WolfGratz]

Well actually yes, he did.

[@amandaevans518]

Oh, I’d say Beethoven is the definition of badass. :^)

[@aprettycooldude595]

Fun Fact: The room in the sea base with the space hearse is the same room as the one filled with Daleks from the first two episodes! It got reused for this two-parter!

[@theseconddoctor9725]

This Doctor is musical like me

[@JoshPinder92]

Series 9 is incredible loving re-watching these stories :) after a couple years (minus some stories in series 7, the 50th and some of series 8) this was back to business as usual of great fantasy storytelling, gripping drama, and genuinely creepy concepts and situations.... :)

[@LightLife4]

You didn't mention it so I don't know if you were aware of it, the roar of The Fisher King was provided by Corey Taylor from Slipknot

[@Cires789]

Good reaction. Loved the Beethoven bit.

[@seapea7402]

I suspect from your reaction that you perhaps noticed under Prentis' prosthetics was the brilliant Paul Kaye (aka GOT''s Thoros of Myr!). Points to the lady (if true!)

[@austingonzales1405]

Great stuff Jess, that was a fun review. 12's breaking of the 4th wall, ("...Loved an arm-wrestle." Hilarious.)

[@lvis11tj7]

"The Fisher King", This was the episode when you talked earlier about you wanting a "Good Ghost Story"......

[@lvis11tj7]

You nailed the Clara and the 12 Doctor character growth, except for Flatline, Clara was always kind of meh, middle of the road for me......I will discuss later.

[@jackbrian7083]

well the answer is in the question WHO wrote beethovens 5th

[@Haunter_Who88]

The Bootstrap Paradox and the Rock Intro hands down is one of the few things about this season I love seeing people react to- one of those moments and I am still mad they didn't include that rock track on the series 9 soundtrack-- Ps Not going to go into spoilers and I have the outmost faith in you, but the next episode that is worthy of a reaction is episode 8 of this series- If you thought Capaldi's acting in the first few moments was amazing, wait till you get to that episode-- I am only saying what I am saying is because I just got off watching a reaction to that episode and the reactors never even paid attention to it. they cut it and didn't even give it a moment.... and you will know when that moment comes which one it is. so amazing....

[@justicevow]

LOVED IT!!

[@Hi-uv7nn]

Season 9 was one of the best seasons. Fight me

[@simonbeaird7436]

Beethoven will never seem the same to me ever again! The story is okay, but Capaldi is superb in this episode.

[@WolfGratz]

It would have been nice to give Robert Heinlein's By His Bootstraps a name check for the paradox. And for the record the same guy's All You Zombies pushes the envelope about as far as you can go.

[@danieljordan8441]

I really enjoyed this two parter.

[@jaybennet4491]

3:03 Pre-"minister of War", like the guy from 74 yards?

[@nerissacrawford8017]

8:30 Yep, that's Corey!

[@zeugl1271]

O'Donnell is so Osgood! (I'm reading now The Day of the Doctor)

[@azizuladnan2957]

Wait, we still don't have an episode(s) about that 'Ministry Of War' right?

[@r.4315]

Azizul Adnan It's just a random name Moffat put to use in the future. He does that all the time.

[@scottmiles824]

I dont want to spoil anything but in episode 8 theres a monologue the doctor does near the end of the episode (you'll know what it is when you watch it) PLEASE include it in your video, even if you dont say anything, i just saw fandomreactions react to it and i wanted to tear my hair out cause they talked all the way through it and its one of the best scenes in Doctor who ever

[@Mrazmatmahmood]

scott miles Why do you even watch them anymore? Brianna's solo reactions were pretty good, but ever since Christi joined it's gone to shit. I stopped watching after episode 1 of series 9. I couldn't take it anymore.

[@hilzabub]

I like their reactions, but the talking... Still, at this point you know what you're getting

[@Mrazmatmahmood]

hilzabub I was getting annoyed at them for quite a while tbh, but decided to push through. What tipped me over the edge was when they said Donna is the only companion they never liked. I know that's really petty and everyone has different opinions and all, but I was done after that. 😂

[@zeugl1271]

That's why a stopped watching fandomreactions

[@JustB3NJI]

I hope they play with the title sequence again in the future.

[@TheMoonRover]

It'll almost certainly be a completely new title sequence and theme arrangement for series 11. This is the only episode which used the rock theme.

[@MyAbridged]

"Design of the .... villain?" I tend to use the term monster in situations like this

[@noelle3551]

The creatures voice is of Corey Taylor. Shame he wasn't singing ;)

[@Atestinal]

No sarcasm, I really appreciated this episode of Doctor Who. I'm not a big fan of seeing the bootstrap paradox being used as a solution (seems a little too easy a solution, if that makes sense) and I felt like it was being used more than I was comfortable with. However this episode felt like they were sort of acknowledging it and saying, "yeah we know we use it, sorry, it's just how it is."

[@geoffmason7215]

congratz on 31k

[@einfachilya6903]

I dont get it can someone explain me the end of this episode? When Clara and the doctor are in the Tardis, and talk about Bethoven. xD

[@SebastianWeinberg]

Did you notice that when Albar Prentis hands out the business cards for his funeral service, the tagline on them reads, _“May the remorse be with you.”_ ? Stable time loops are not really as "mind-blowing" as they're being portrayed here. They're only paradoxical, if there is _no possible way_ for an initial cause to exist, other than time travel. In this case, it would only be paradoxical, if it was _absolutely impossible_ for the Doctor to come up with the idea of a hologram and the messages to his earlier self on his own. But that's not the case; he constantly has clever ideas like that. This means, that the Doctor initially came up with this scheme at some point to set the loop in motion, but once it started, he didn't have to come up with the idea anymore - he could just crib it from his future self. Thus a time-travelling cause displaces an originating cause, leading to the same effect, and the loop becomes stable. The version of the Doctor that originally had the idea is gone from reality, and the time-loop is self-supporting now.

[@richardscales9560]

Just realised that the undertaker is Paul Kaye, Thoros of Myr from GoT

[@Halliwell1234]

I just want to let you know that I have call sheets from Doctor Who. I have a few from season one with the Ninth Doctor, one from season two with the Tenth Doctor and a few from season five with the Eleventh Doctor. I have one call sheet from the Sarah Jane Adventures episode Invasion of the Bane and a few call sheets from seasons four and five, and I also have two scripts from a season four story.

[@archive9796]

There’s probably a whole Big Finish boxset with Bennett and O’Donnell

[@iaind73]

I wish they kept this version of the theme tune.

[@valerianaranjocruz25]

"Bootstrap Paradox. Google it." I shit you not, the first time I watched this I did it.

[@juvialockser6450]

jess you know you can google stuff on your phone too right

[@mekonta]

I've always thought that the actor playing the rat-like creature, Paul Kaye, would make an excellent Doctor.

[@thegrimmretails3777]

Capaldi played the intro in this episode.

[@rememberme3619]

You're my favorite reactor

[@LiamDuke]

Thoros from GoT is sooo weird in this but I love it. I adore this story! Time to watchhhh

[@whovian116]

Who needs sleep ... NEW VIDEO :D

[@MrUndersolo]

You might appreciate some of this: www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-10/doctor-who-what-is-the-bootstrap-paradox/ And I can’t believe that you didn’t react to her reaction to the Tardis...!

[@ZakJordan98]

Thoros Of Myr the Moleman

[@vishalsipley6421]

Great vid jess

[@katiehough2499]

You might recognise that Tivolian undertaker better without the makeup, it's Thoros of Myr.

[@FirlowXD]

Yessss.

[@archive9796]

Clara’s outfit is adorable here

[@Payne2view]

The episode where the start and end were the best parts. I found this two-parter left me a bit flat at the time but hay-ho, moving on. Quite exited for next week though. Actually I always look forward to every Friday.

[@candoentertainment9118]

Never did get any payoff on The Minister of War mentioned early in the episode.