Doctor Who Flux: Survivors of the Flux - REVIEW

[@MrTARDIS]

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[@jacomoss3041]

Love how you talk about Diane with Evil Dan's Theme

[@kiarash608]

Mr Tardis reacting to Tecteun's telling the story of the Division made my day

[@skeeter2420]

26.37- is that the Evil Dan music? You're good at this.

[@bitduelist]

The Division isn’t just a brand, it’s a lifestyle. Introducing Division, a scent by Tecteun

[@leipherd8118]

"We had to destroy the Universe because you were in it! Fancy coming to the new Universe?"

[@keirjarvie6998]

Remember back in your Series Ranking when you have this analogy for Series 12? It’s like in Resurrection of the Daleks when they had all of these plans that would actually work and ensure victory for the Daleks. However the problem was, they acted out all of those plans at once. So the Dalek’s strategy became all muddled and that sealed their defeat. That’s basically the best way I can describe many episodes of this series. Especially this one.

[@adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749]

Maybe Jericho’s painting took so long he suddenly grew facial hair and Dan and has just accept it

[@shadshowadradna]

I'm pretty sure that that was the point - it was intended to show just how big the message was (with a bit of humour).

[@tTaseric]

Also, 11:50 The Flux was created because the Doctor wouldn't stop meddling in the universe. So Tecteun just... took the Doctor out of the universe? What's the point in the Flux then? Why not just kidnap her in the first place?

[@ethanchild617]

The Flux was created to get rid of the doctor. It's so that the doctor won't get rid of tecteuns plans

[@leipherd8118]

@@ethanchild617 by inviting her to your secret unreachable lair? And the inviting her to the new Universe? It's beyond parody. Don't come looking for us. We are destroying the Universe to get rid of you. But also, come on over to our secret base -while you are here, fancy coming to the new Universe we have had to move to to get away from you?

[@harlowethrombey7665]

@@leipherd8118 Tecteun brings her to Division in Once Upon Time, then sends her away. Why do that if you wanted her to come to Division? And if Tecteun can just handwave the Doctor in and out, what does she need the Angels for? The more I think about it, the more my opinion of this season keeps dropping. The acting was really good, the directing was really good, but Chibnall’s writing lets everything down.

[@adamfreddo5703]

Chris Chibnall: ah but the fact that you haven't heard of Division in the show's history or don't know what they've done just shows how GOOD they are. *I slam head into desk.

[@britanimations2002]

Great, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought The Vanquishers was going tto be an all out brawl between the three factions... Though then again of the Daleks had a big roll in this story, their appearence in the special would've felt a little, been there done that yknow? We've just seen em, give em a break

[@SoundsSarcastic234]

Just for fun and because neither this nor the next episode do, I’m going to try and explain what I think The Division’s deal could have been and how it relates to the Doctor. Taking in to account the fact The Doctor would’ve been against Division’s ultimate goal, Division erased her memories and put her TARDIS in a museum. Their secret was safe. The Division has been messing around with our universe for so long no outside of their own would know, and, since they had time travel, even the very origins of Division were erased as a safe guard. No one of significance could stop them anymore. Except one. They forgot to factor in how much the moral compass of the TARDIS had grown on her missions with her beloved Doctor. Knowing that her Time Lord, no matter what they looked like, couldn’t keep still for very long, the TARDIS stole them away when the opportunity presented itself, cleverly making it seem like it was The Doctor’s plan - to hide her own hidden agenda: penitence. She decided that the only way to fight Division now was to correct every “correction” they made to time, planet by planet, one by one. But their was just one problem: the men and women she had travelled with and had taught her so much about justice were lost, to be replaced with this moody, white-haired teenager. How was she going to get him under control? She’d need some help. Thankfully, help came in the form of the old boy’s granddaughter who was a lot more agreeable than her relative. The pair built up a bond so strong that the TARDIS even told her her name and what it stood for, that impressed Mr Frowny-face I can tell you. And before long, the TARDIS grew to trust the girl so much that she decided to tell her everything. One day, after an argument with her grandfather about her schooling, the girl hatched a plan that would help the TARDIS and give her some much needed space from Grumpy. And so the TARDIS sat, waiting among the discarded rubbish of this strange, alien world, waiting for the young girl to bring the people that would help breath new life into the old man - reminding him of the lessons in morality he had once taught her. She waited in I.M. Foreman, Totter’s Lane. And the rest, is unhistory.

[@Gxbbzee]

"How?!" ... "HOW?!". Brilliant review.

[@thevacuumofcomments2946]

This is one of your best videos, you've hit the nail on the head on pretty much every point

[@TyrannoNoddy]

Broke: Evil Dan Woke: EVIL DI *master theme plays*

[@tTaseric]

Hey, at least Tecteun was right when she said that Division was indescribable.

[@tTaseric]

I generally don't dislike exposition-dump stories (I really enjoyed The Timeless Children for example) but with a 6-episode run-time they really had to make every second count and Survivors of the Flux just didn't count for much. The stand-out scene of the episode is definitely the Tecteun scenes that follow her reveal. Her attitude and what she says to the Doctor perfectly encapsulate an abusive parental figure. What happened to the Doctor was a delicate subject, and I'm glad they at least handled that aspect with *some* care. The few scenes with Swarm and Grand Serpent are absolutely carried by their performances. Yeah we probably could have just gotten rid of them, but they're an absolute joy to watch on screen. Chibnall's strength is definitely characterising the villains, and Survivors of the Flux once again proved that.

[@whovianespressoextra7830]

Not you saying we’ll finally find out about the Doctor’s past in the vanquishers 😆😭

[@benw4409]

This review is so funny and brought me right back to the classic MrTARDIS days in terms of the humour I'm gonna rewatch it *again* even though I generally enjoyed the episode. *I THINK I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING*

[@Jedi_Spartan]

8:35 There's at least the explanation of the Division plucking Karvanista out of his native timezone to do whatever they needed him to do alongside the Ruth Doctor (I know the more likely reason but the review was written without context of Episode 6 so I decided to follow suit).

[@skeeter2420]

I think a lot of the wider issues with Flux as a series become particularly apparent in the last two episodes given the audience can see the plot threads don't lead to much of interest- it's not possible anymore to think that everything will serve a wider story.

[@DWAkhaten]

13:43 My personal favorite quote from this episode: Tecteun blowing her own horn by overselling how impressive her secret society is.

[@bluehero-96]

"Division is simple, and indescribable." Ok, those two things are kinda mutually exclusive, so really, the Chibs is just too lazy to describe the Division by himself. Also, Division of WHAT?!?!

[@Reprodestruxion]

The division of ass pulling

[@samuelbarber6177]

Questions that will likely never be answered: why was the Matrix corrupted? Why did Gat tell one of the Timeless Children that the Division did not exist? Why anything?

[@elliotcrossan6290]

Turns out it wasn't Evil Dan, it was Evil Di all along

[@pluviosity]

Thank you for addressing the beard! That one small scene drives me insane. Survivor is probably not the worst episode, but the 1904 is got to be the worst subplot ever-The Vanquishers makes it clear. Why the trio travels around the world just for _a date_ ? What good that will do? They're just three humans stuck in 1900s. Even though that hologram message made before they got displaced in time, what is The Doctor want Yaz to achieve anyway? I initially thought Survivor should be a pure Doctor-lite for the sake of Yaz character development, but after the finale, I change my mind. This should be a companion-lite episode, or heck, probably both. Dedicate the entire thing for Grand Serpent-UNIT instead, with half of it is Kate Stewart goes Jason Bourne and building the resistance. Make that plot matters, because honestly, compared to 1904 or Tecteun, UNIT plot is the only thing that has a strand of logic in it.

[@harlowethrombey7665]

How are they paying for the clothes and the travel? Never explained. The beard was a WTF moment too.

[@reneewilson]

Wow, I watch a few different Who reviewers, and your videos are by far the most logical, relevant, and insightful. I love that you're able to break down why something is or is not working, rather than just saying, "Eh, that didn't work for me" or "I didn't like that." Thank you for creating such exceptional content.

[@yannatoko9898]

The BBC logo is more defined in your footage for "Village of the Angels" than it is for "Survivors of the Flux".

[@maldaror7097]

If they had even done a flashback scene like Clara in the impossible girl where they jammed in images of division taking part in old plots it would have helped, you could even use division as a plot hole plaster. Also this could largely be done in post production, achievable during the pandemic.

[@Jamezevans123]

Something people may not have picked up, though I think it probably should’ve been emphasised more, perhaps by seeing Tecteun watching it happen, after she tells the Doctor to stop trying to save the universe & the Doctor & Co return to the TARDIS, the Doctor says to Dan that she’ll find out who’s behind the Flux & what it’s got to do with her, ignoring Tecteun’s command to stop, so she without a doubt saw this happen as the Temple of Atropos belongs to Division so she could watch it from a security camera, then after sent the Weeping Angel extraction squad to bring the Doctor to Division in order to stop her.

[@Reprodestruxion]

Oi! No criticising the episode that gave us Benni

[@pcb1175]

Alright calm down Vilma

[@frazzlesreviews5379]

The shooting script for this episode specifically stated that Jericho arrives at the wall clean shaven before the final cut shows him with a full beard. I imagine it was to show how long it took them to complete the task but in the final cut made it look like a continuity error

[@benmiller3252]

Not all episodes of series 13 are bad it's just some I like better than others

[@B-MC]

Yes. Thats been bothering me the whole way through. Convinience, coincidence, and contrivance galore. She just came across the flux, then she only ended up at Atropos because Yaz randomly ended up there and then swarm ended up there at the same time and summoned the doctor. Then Whitaker only found Tecteun at all because she ran into the mouri thing? Somehow solved it? Then the only reason the angel shows up is because it was in the mouri thing (looking for the doctor)? And followed Yaz ... for some reason. This whole thing just Happened to whitaker and *Spoilers* Then she finally got the watch, we NEVER got anything from the watch we hadnt already seen ... which whitaker shouldnt have remembered; if her memories are trapped in it, then NOTHING in it should match memories she's already had. And then when she finally has the watch, Chibnall just CLAIMS that she's torn about it and she throws it away for later. Everything is for later; a twist doesnt matter, a twist's impact is entirely dependant on its CONSEQUENCE.

[@DriverHenryWho3245]

About what you said about the cliffhanger - I feel like the Doctor ripping off her conversion plate would have been a better cliffhanger.

[@simonmoore8776]

It's totally idiotic writing to make Lethbridge-Stewart only a corporal in 1967, and then only a few years later he is a brigadier. It makes absolutely no sense. Even if Chibnall is completely ignorant of military ranks, he can't be that ignorant, can he?

[@16Arson]

MrTARDIS is Tecteun’s maid!

[@bgbe7119]

An honest, excellent, thorough, detailed, even mathematically forensic analysis of why Chibnall's writing is so utterly and staggeringly inept as soon as you scrutinise it in any depth. Also, you're really on the money here about why the whole Division/Timeless Child story has so singularly failed to engage the interest of so many longtime viewers. Flux was fine as long as you just enjoyed the ride (and I did) but this episode is where it all started to come apart. Given how critical you are here, I can't wait to hear what you have to say about the overturned truckload of gusset garnish that is The Vanquishers.

[@Caleb42523]

I definitely agree this episode was really where Flux fell on its face. I had issues throughout, but I was still coming away more positive then negative, and ultimately engaged and hopeful. I found this episode incredibly frustrating and that feeling continued into the next episode. Really ended on a sour note. Especially having that next time trailer, which I felt really undercut the impact of the series.

[@BH-98]

Judging from his Twitter he liked the finale. Granted it’s his opinion & everything, but the flux finale was god awful

[@bgbe7119]

@@BH-98 It certainly put the 'awful' in 'godawful'. Haven't seen the Twitter comment. I look forward to his in-depth review. If it deploys anything even resembling the depth of perception on show in this review, I fail to see how the litany of story, plotting and character - so, basically, er, the writing - failures in The Vanquishers could emerge unscathed. Will be interesting.

[@bgbe7119]

@@Caleb42523 A prolonged, headache-inducing jam session of sour notes. Guess you had to be there. Guess you had to be off your face. Guess Chibnall hoped we all would be and wouldn't notice. Guess what? We weren't.

[@harlowethrombey7665]

You know what would have made Flux better? Take out the last two episodes, end this season with the Doctor turned into a Weeping Angel. Use the specials to resolve the story next year.

[@benmiller3252]

Do you know what I want for this episode? A target novelisation. Expanding the plot holes and explain them.

[@ConstantSorrow]

I've really like this series' serial format, it has a very classic who feel to it and while there are a few classic serials that should have been an episode or two shorter, Flux could of used an episode or two to fit everything in.

[@Reprodestruxion]

10 out of 10 because it featured my country : Chile👀

[@Reprodestruxion]

Cerro Tololo

[@MrDarthT]

I have to assume that it took several weeks/months to paint the message. And Jericho's beard is meant to imply that. But that does introduce the question of how they did what they did without anyone in China stopping them.

[@shadshowadradna]

I feel like there's something kind of meta going on here about the nature of an untold story, but my thoughts on that are pretty fuzzy at this point and I'm not sure Chibnall's are any less so. Flux is a rollercoaster ride as far as I'm concerned and I've enjoyed every episode on a first viewing - including this one (maybe the third one a little less). Fundamentally none of it makes sense, but then a box can't be bigger on the inside than it is on the outside, and maybe rollercoasters don't make much sense either. That's not to say that it's not valid to look for some kind of coherence, it's just that I figured from the first episode that this thing wasn't going to have any, and I'm fine with that. Possibly just being along for the ride has something to do with my feeling that we were never really told who The Grand Serpent was in the first place. Therefore his appearance in this episode was not really jarring; it was simply revealing things that we didn't know about the character and leaving us to piece those together. I did think that the first two UNIT people being killed felt like the same scene playing out twice, but I suppose that that was arguably the point being made. I'm not sure we know _now_ who TGS _is_ but we know what he represents, and it's not so much a time traveller as a constant.

[@seankelly8432]

I can see Big Finish expanding on Divison and the Fugitive Doctor

[@DriverHenryWho3245]

I guess Tecteun changed her mind after she said "Don't come looking for this", specifically when the rouge Weeping Angel offered the Doctor. That's when she got the idea to take her out of the universe. It's kinda unlikely though too.

[@gatts205]

This episode felt like it was two or three episodes crammed into one because it didn't develop any of the subplots well enough to make them interesting. I wonder if flux at some point in the writing process was meant to be longer. Maybe a version between what we got and the possible earlier standalone episode series. IDK just something that suddenly occurred to me.

[@dxctr_master]

WHAT’S THE POINT IN BEIN’ ALIVE?

[@maldon3659]

Glad I'm not the only one who found Diane's character shift jarring

[@benmiller3252]

I'm not blaming Jodie Whittaker It's just the material she was given wasn't very good

[@benmiller3252]

@@lexruptor Chris Chibnall Does a load of telling but not a load of showing

[@harlowethrombey7665]

I had the same problem with Tecteun. First she says don’t go looking for the Division station in Once Upon Time. Then she says she brought The Doctor to Division in this episode. Another thing: if Tecteun wanted to bring the Doctor to Division, why did she send her away in Once, Upon Time? It makes the cliffhanger for Village Of The Angels stupid.

[@lollydolly4590]

I don’t understand how so much could be in this series and yet I felt like nothing was going on a lot of the time

[@5thar]

Holy Crap, Mr.Tardis is back in the room a true well though out and balanced reviews rather then pointless reactionary videos. Good to have your usual quality back😁😁, actually looking forward to your opinions on the finally

[@MrTARDIS]

I never left the room...

[@5thar]

@@MrTARDIS ah be honest, we all know those video where you react to other people's reactions and political speakers are just not up to your usual standard. I mean I understand the need to get clickbate titles to put money on the table but it still depress me to see you being just as bad as the opposition😕😕. I suppose this migth be the only time I ever get a reply from you so it migth be pertinent to elaborate (then again I've noticed most KZbinrs ignore me once I start going into vague details 😅). To explain what I mean it is as I'm sure you on some level know, total crap the way you 'breakdown' your preceived opposition. For one you'll note that they don't do It back at you, they if anything go out of their way not to name you and others, which just reflects badly on you as a speaker. You also insist on basing many of your arguements on inference. In your reaction to @HeelvsBabyface and @Nerdorotic reaction to flux ep1, you go on a whole tangent about how clearly their pause in relation to the disabled character of Diane, suggests that they don't think disabled people should have the job and what not. Except they don't say that, sure maybe they do think that but you can't be sure either way. That isn't journalism to rant about how there 'daring one another to say it' or to say that @bowlestrek almost definitely would of - that's just slander and inference with no evidence, other then they are people you dislike. In the case with the polition whom said a lack of male role-models causes a spike in crime, you acted like the media and twisted his words, even showing the clip before saying that he had posited 'doctor who causes crime' but he never said that. What he said is bad enough, what he said is stupid enough but you adding to it (the only rolemodel I remember from childhood was Elisabeth Sladen, rest her soul), warping it only lowers Your credibility. There was no need to exaggerate, it was bad enough as was but you did so anyway. Finally you have the classic of making a whole video where esseientally your gleeful that bowlstreak had a mental breakdown. In what world is that ok? So his views are problematic and go against yours, that's no reason to make a while video about the topic. The fact is I watched all of your channels and despite my views being nearer yours, over time I've come to respect bowlstreak, Az and Nerdorotics more then you - not becuase I agree with all they have to say but becuase they're actually somehow less petty. They rarely name other KZbinrs and Twitter mobers who've attacked them by name, despite in some cases putting up with it for upwards of 4 years. And for all that they are brash and potty-mouthed they are valid in expressing a dislike of trends. Meanwhile you infer and you stretch and twist - And by the end your videos feel more like those tabloid and channel 5 shows that get made every-time a member of the royal family falls down the stairs. Do you think this is how you win some sort of battle? To educate those you see as unenlightened? Have you ever considered that's it's content like yours that made bowlstreak and Co so extreme in the first place? That it's that sort of crap that pushes them from worried moderates into tired extremists who simply don't have the fortitude left to be polite. I 100% believe that stuff like this in all walks of life is just as damaging, if not more so then what Az, Nerdorotics and Bowlstreak do. At the end of the day, what do you think splits this fandom more - you and the TV show's own production mocking and villifing them, or them being upset and letting that colour their views? It is truely sad that I feel safer to express a view in their chat, knowing they won't mock or disregard me - then I do in yours. If you actually read all this(I amment hopeful of that but maybe), then I can atleast thank you for that and I am genuinely interested in seeing your review for the final EP - A fan👍👍

[@5thar]

@@MrTARDIS I'll understand if you don't read my whole above update, but equally it would mean alot if you did👍👍.

[@5thar]

@@MrTARDIS lol, I guess I shouldn't of expected a reply😂😂

[@bugsby4663]

I wonder how much of this was better explained in the pre Covid cuts?

[@BestBFam]

The two questions I keep reading were answered in the show. I realized that all my questions were answered on re-watch. Between the Ood and the Passenger form they were able to save much of the universe. It's all in the dialog. Tecteun was trying to kill the Doctor with the first Flux wave but the Doctor absorbed it with the Tardis. So Tecteun changed plans. That is when Tecteun tried to bribe her with her memories and the idea of keeping Earth from destruction. I truly enjoyed the series! I'm very happy that Bell and Vinder got their happy ending. The fates of Karvanista and Jericho gave the finale gravitas. Having three Doctors was a very cool idea. I'm glad that Yaz and Dan are still companions and of course very excited about that Master reference. I hope we get to find out what actually happened to Swarm and Azure. The scene between Azure and the Doctor in the finale was just chilling and excellently acted and the scene with the Doctor and Time was just so quintessentially Doctor Who.

[@fivish]

it was a mess of woke and lack of talent.

[@jimtheperson.4999]

The fact that this episode confirms that the doctor is the timeless child bring it down extremely far

[@leejones8582]

Russell has so much to clean up after Chibnall's mess.

[@harlowethrombey7665]

So Grand Serpent spends decades hanging out behind the scenes for UNIT, probably killing more people than we see in the episode, and the Third Doctor never notices or finds out while he’s working for UNIT? Cool, cool.

[@gemgem396]

Back in series 11, I originally thought the Timeless Child was related to the Stenza and the Stenza would be an overarching villain. Instead They have just disappeared from the series

[@pcb1175]

If there’s one consistent thing about this era is that they establish an original villain but then loose interest in them in favour of pre established ones. Examples include Daniel Barton, Ashad, Grand Serpent, Swarm & Azure & as mentioned Tim Shaw. The only one who hasn’t really fallen to this is Jack Robertson (yet)

[@harlowethrombey7665]

The Stenza disappearing is actually a good thing. Once everyone started calling it Tim Shaw, that was it.

[@gemgem396]

@@harlowethrombey7665 I’m talking about the species

[@harlowethrombey7665]

@@gemgem396 I know, but they made Tim Shaw such a joke, it kind of made it impossible to redeem the Stenza. It’s one of Chibnall’s biggest problems: failing to come up with a compelling new villain that sticks with the fans. Ashad, the lone Cyberman, was a really good character-but then Chibnall killed him off abruptly.

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

I find it annoying that some people criticise the Timeless Child by claiming it makes The Doctor a chosen one (and I've seen this spouted in the Radiotimes). If it does that, then what has the Doctor been chosen for? What is her destiny? The answer is that there isn't a destiny. She's not been chosen for anything, so can people please check what words mean before they claim their bullshit as fact.

[@kunaal_1928]

It’s quite reassuring that a lot of the issues you have with the episode in this video are resolved in the finale

[@AroAceGamer]

Most of them anyway.

[@MrTARDIS]

I feel the exact opposite, to be honest. What got resolved that I mentioned in this video?

[@ftumschk]

@@MrTARDIS Not many of them - if any at all. I look forward to your review :)

[@DneilB007]

There’s a difference between resolving plot threads and just ending them. Unfortunately, Mr. Chibnall has also confused the two.

[@MovieMagic515]

Is it possible the BBC have imposed on Chibnall that Unit be explained so the fandom doesn't go crazy and keep limiting/changing Chibnall's plans? I don't know if his RTD nostalgia winks are a coincidence.

[@samuelbarber6177]

Liked it. Can’t really say much more about it.

[@wcoleman99]

Well it was an episode. feels like Chibnall needs someone there to keep asking him questions so stuff makes some kind of logical sense.

[@oranmccann2476]

I remember when I first watched this episode when first aired, at one point I actually had to check how long was there left of it, which I only do if I'm bored by whatever I'm watching. I also thought this episode was the weakest of the series so far.

[@generalpork]

I thought division was gonna be killed by the doctor summoning the daleks/cybermen to it (from doomsday) but I guess not

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

@beef business Have we ever seen the void?

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

I think they're dead. The Next Doctor has some dialogue implying that the Daleks and Cybermen perished in there (not counting the ones who made it to Victorian London).

[@generalpork]

@@OverlyPositiveFanboy guess that would make sense. I'm marathoning s4 rn so I'll be onto that soon

[@leejones8582]

Chibnall stealing the big message from Moffatt with River Song fob watch from Davies in series 3

[@ANGEL_BOB_YT]

How did they get out of the village bubble

[@MrTARDIS]

The Angels put them back after they took the Doctor away.

[@ANGEL_BOB_YT]

@@MrTARDIS ok then what about the girl lol they leave it on a corner somewhere

[@steveandjeanniefrith236]

The vagueness of Chris Chibnall pisses me off.

[@MediaError404]

The only thing that will fix doctor who is ether it’s only a dream or it was a terrible simulation trick by the time lords. It’s not glamorous it’s not satisfying but that will get people back

[@danforrest7765]

This episode displays Chibnalls inability to write plot. The holes are everywhere, the pointless threads are laid bare and the lack of character development is staggering. For me, Flux has been a disgrace. Plenty of potential but the incompetence in the writing is maddening. Doctor Who is truly dead.

[@thebobbrom7176]

I'm surprised you picked up on the refugee thing here but not the Zygon Two Parter. I'll be honest I almost missed this line in this episode whereas the Zygon Two Parter to me at least almost came off as Trump Propaganda

[@gaiar.d.rosendahl8300]

Oof great review!

[@nervosuss]

I love your comment but when you start doing the whole "such as..." thing it feels seriously condescending, if I was in a discussion with you and you started that crap with me I'd walk away and not give examples if you have that superiority complex, sorry, it'd be a waste of my time. By the way, still getting a like because I agree with most of what you say and it's a good review, apart from the hermit, that completely broke the mood for me.

[@MrTARDIS]

Why would you consider someone asking for basic clarification or an example to be "condescending"?

[@nervosuss]

@@MrTARDIS it's the Way you do it, if you asked once then fine, but the whole rolling hands and repeating "such as", that's where you come across as condescending.

[@MrTARDIS]

@@nervosuss, I said it the way I did in this context because I was watching a video and knew that an answer/clarification wasn't coming. If I was actually in a discussion or debate I likely wouldn't do it like that, but I'd still ask for clarification or a follow-up if nothing was provided.

[@cisalzlman]

first view

[@turjun]

In the FASA Dr. Who role-playing game, they had a CIA, Celestrial Intervention Agency. Although the CIA worked for Gallifrey and Division seems to be independent. Seemingly indifferent to Gallifrey. If Division is a huge all-powerful organization, why do we only see Tecteun and a nameless Ood? Why were they so easily overrun by the Swarm?