Doctor Who: Modern 1x1: "Rose" | PREMIERE REACTION!!

How it all began... on Season 1 Episode 1 of Doctor Who - Rose!
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10:44 - Reaction: And How It Shall Begin Again
24:37 - Discussion
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[@7thHourFilms]

Watch the FULL LENGTH Reaction Here: www.patreon.com/posts/doctor-who-1x1-106323284

[@ErisRising]

If we're getting a full rewatch with your dad seeing most of it for the first time, then I'm in for the full ride.

[@TheMoonRover]

Yeah, William Hartnell to Tom Baker were credited as "Doctor Who" but Peter Davison requested it be changed to "The Doctor" which stuck for the rest of the classic era and even the movie. The revival reverted to "Doctor Who" but David Tennant requested it be changed to "The Doctor" once again, which has stuck ever since.

[@BulbasaurRepresent]

Like father-in-law like son.

[@franohmsford7548]

"MIDDLE CLASS"??? Noooooooo........Jackie, Rose and Mickey are very clearly WORKING CLASS!!! Single Mother who doesn't seem to have a job, lives in a Council Flat, Rose herself works in a department store probably on minimum wage, I believe Mickey's supposed to be a mechanic.

[@benjaminwilson2945]

I agree, I said the same thing.

[@flaggerify]

And Ace was pretty much working class too.

[@mattymcmatty]

Middle class is commonly used in the US to describe what in the UK would be called working class people, I think it's an aspiration thing - two nations divided by a common language, again.

[@flaggerify]

@@mattymcmatty Why use "middle" then? And who is in the lowest class?

[@mattymcmatty]

@@flaggerify I don't really know, I'm British. But here's a quote from a Rand arrticle called 'Most Americans Consider Themselves Middle-Class. But Are They?' "Chances are that you believe you are in the middle class-nearly everyone in the United States does. Doctors and lawyers believe they are middle-class; so, too, do welders and waiters. In a 2015 Pew survey, only 10 percent of Americans said they considered themselves lower-class and just 1 percent thought they were upper-class." If you search for it you can read more. Edit: and the underclass is a US term - probably coined by Gunnar Myrdal, who described it in 1963 as "class of unemployed, unemployables, and underemployed, who are more and more hopelessly set apart from the nation at large, and do not share in its life, its ambitions, and its achievements"

[@CRINOTH]

Yes, Billie Piper was a pop singer prior to appearing in Doctor Who. When her casting was announced I felt vaguely uneasy about it and thought it was stunt-casting just to attract viewers... I'm more than happy that my concerns were unfounded and that Billie Piper was perfectly cast to play Rose.

[@maximisationisreal439]

Wow! You are starting to react to Doctor Who, Alex? It is a great show! You know it actually used to air all the way in the 60s. Maybe you should react to the old series with your dad or something...

[@thepandorica1660]

What other family members or even friends does he have? This could become a trend. 1. Alex watches 'modern' Who 2. Alex watches 'classic' Who with his dad 3. Alex watches 'modern' Who with his dad Who'll join next?

[@user-gj9uq3kb7y]

he is watching doctor who since 2018

[@Connor-ONeill]

​@@user-gj9uq3kb7yturn your face to the sky. If you look really hard, you _just_ might see the joke, flying over your head.

[@stickytapenrust6869]

@@user-gj9uq3kb7yYou’re about as sharp as the corners of a round table…

[@ftumschk]

Billie Piper had attended stage/drama-school since childhood, and her main gifts and ambitions were in acting. She was talent-spotted aged 15 and became a pop star for a couple of years, after which she returned to acting. Apart from Doctor Who, she's made quite an impact on stage and screen.

[@adamfreddo5703]

"He has one constant companion, death.... No seriously, he's clung to his ship, follows him everywhere". The original line.

[@ftumschk]

33:00 "Lots of planets have a North" is accurate, in that some spin on their sides relative to the plane of their orbit. Uranus is one such planet, so it arguably has an East and West pole, but no North or South pole.

[@Finbarzapek]

Kind of scary that ‘modern’ Doctor Who will be 20 years old next year. Christopher Eccleston is now as far in the past as Hartnell was when I started watching the show in the 80s. Makes me feel like crumbling to dust.

[@Jimmy_Jones]

Damn. Sutekh is too powerful.

[@flaggerify]

You'll come back to life if RTD has a say.

[@flaggerify]

There's now a glut of New Who reactions. Even another rewatch. I hope Dad will put this one above the rest.

[@joshua.910]

The actor who plays 'clive' the conspiracy theorist (Mark Benton). Is one of those under-rated actors who appears in literally everything atleast once but never gets any recognition.

[@woodhouse122]

Yes Camile Coduri was in King Ralph ,she was also in the Eric Idle and Robbie Coltrane movie Nuns on the run

[@kemmdog4444]

The actress playing Jackie Tyler was in Nuns on the Run and King Ralph.

[@Tyrconnell]

Hugh Grant is 63, and the youngest of the Fatal Death Doctors.

[@the_judge_8262]

Glad to see you and your Dad back Alex, but I assume your way ahead on Patreon. Hope he is enjoying it . Can't wait till he gets to Capaldi, probably the most classic like modern doctor

[@MrMaster7112765]

Well its taken years but at least the day has finally now arrived

[@Jamestopboy]

DAD WATCHES DOCTOR WHO!?!?!?! *EXCELLENT!*

[@GhostPurple69]

rose is very much working-class, living in the uk equivalent to "the projects." that was a deliberate thing, as both davies and eccleston come from a working class background, and because, frankly, more people are poor than anything else.

[@kevinsalt2719]

Interesting how you mention the 7th. I think modern Who really leans into his era. The brand new season just released even more so.

[@ClintBandito]

Your dad is correct Billie Piper was a pop star before this. In fact before seeing it some people believed it was stunt casting. But the real decision was made... "Cause we want to! Cause we want to!" 😏😅

[@imafgc]

My body is so ready for this. In regards to making a Doctor Who cartoon I say they 100% need to make one. I would love to see a 25-30 minute cartoon featuring a Classic Doctor, like I'd love to see a 3rd Doctor cartoon with 3, the UNIT family and both Jo Grant AND Liz Shaw be part of it, I think that would be tremendous fun. Alternatively it could be a 6th Doctor series where he's travelling with Peri and Frobisher (a talking penguin) it's be perfect. I think you'll get new viewers coming in to see this and I hope they watch your other reactions. I also agree that people should start Doctor Who from here, I will NEVER understand people who say start with David Tennant.

[@benjaminwilson2945]

Series 1 is among my favourite series of the show, alongside series 5 and series 10.

[@ZondaFRoadster]

Welcome to the official run of New Who, Richard! ....I can only apologise for episodes 4 and 5....

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

They're still great episodes when they aren't farting

[@NJH01]

@@dylanshadowstar9779which is a shame because every time a new reactor is about to get there we have to massively lower the expectations

[@thepandorica1660]

​@@NJH01exactly, because there's a group of people who thinks we should all love/hate the same things 😂

[@Temptation666]

1:00 I got very confused about the title to this video. I felt sure i had seen you react to it before. Well "with him" is always a plus. I'm sure i can watch it again with the two of you. Don't get me wrong I love David Tennant. He is on top of my list of most loved actors, but 9 will most likely always be my Doctor

[@andygozzo72]

i think the eccleston series was one of the best if not THE best of 'new who' .. so far .pity he couldnt have done more....

[@sallyatticum]

Wow. What a journey.

[@andrewbowman4611]

Interestingly, in the 8th Doctor novel The Gallifrey Chronicles, which was published after this series ended, it's revealed that the TARDIS interior was destroyed by a bomb, which left it in the state we see on screen. Billie Piper's recording career was very much prior to this, with 3 number 1 singles and a couple of albums. It's teenage pop in the main, but she was very popular during that period. Camille Coduri was in the film Nuns on the Run with Eric Idle and Robbie Coltrane, as well as King Ralph with John Goodman.

[@josefschiltz2192]

Glad to see dad again.

[@franohmsford7548]

Hugh Grant would have been an awful choice to play The Doctor in 2004 but I could actually see it now, he's become a much better actor in the last 20 years! He may be 63 but he doesn't look it.

[@CJFS00s]

( 11:09 ) Yeah she was a Pop Star from like 1998-2001. 👍🏻

[@MrJ.Smith1234]

Although it's dated in places, it's a great introductory episode that not only brought the old fans back into the show but a completely new generation of viewers.

[@franohmsford7548]

I found it rather rushed to be fair, I think I'd have preferred they make the Pilot a two-parter and really give space to the story. The Autons weren't used that well and Mickey was outright horribly treated by the writers.

[@MrJ.Smith1234]

@franohmsford7548 You do make a good point but I think the point of the story is mainly just to introduce audiences to the doctor. The Auton invasion is just a side plot that's coincidentally happening round Rose and the Doctor's meeting.

[@franohmsford7548]

@@MrJ.Smith1234 I don't disagree with that statement however I still feel it was rushed. The episode goes by at a breakneck pace and I'd have preferred they write a stronger story that would have fitted in more with the rest of the series - Maybe even move the opening of Aliens of London forward.

[@thepandorica1660]

Love how the episode picture is the same as it was in the original reaction

[@MarkPlemmons]

Ducktales (2017) is America's Doctor Who.

[@Harry75]

I wonder if the other adventures with Eccleston's Doctor catalogued by Clive could have happened when the Doctor leaves at the end before returning and telling Rose that the TARDIS also travels through time?

[@yuune114]

The Doctor seeing his face for the first time in this episode can actually make sense. He could have gone to those times in Clive's pictures in his personal future!

[@gaztheman7879]

I love how they used the Autons to bring back the series as they knew it worked so well when they moved to colour from black and white. A villain you see every day.

[@johnthewiz]

Groovy! (And I think it's generally agrreed that the moovy happened but it kinda ends there as it broke all the laws of time, made the Dr half Human and he started snogging people. So yeah - it was there but - well.)

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

This episode, I drove to Canada to view. I had just finished my Student Teaching, in April 2005, awaited employment as a Teacher. I am an Ohio resident. I learned on the internet, that Canadian TV helped to co-fund this first season. So, a week after the British tv premiere, it was to be on Canadian TV. I drove the 3.5 hours up to Detroit, and over into Windsor. I had booked a hotel room. We used to go to Windsor as a family, for a quick visit, years before. I had dinner -got a bottle, and settled in of new Who....a great experience!!! The US transmission was not until like the Autumn on BBC America. I imported DVD's from Amazon UK, and set my Mac for viewing of UK discs, so I saw the episodes before the domestic transmission (four seasons of doing that -slow to get the episodes here! I last went to the UK on a short trip in 2006 -went up on The London Eye, great views, no Autons :)

[@Sigurd-r5]

Hugh Grant was offered the role of Doctor at some point. He turned it down, but regrets doing so he says

[@Jaketherobonrd]

Well with Classic Who reactions finished. Time for your dad to react to new who. I became a fan through the classic series during the period known as the wilderness years. So I was 9 years old when new who started and I remember being very excited because I was about to get the chance experience new doctor who live on tv. I remember watching this with my sister at my nans house. Those were the good old memories.

[@SuperCookie64]

Are you gonna watch the spinoffs with your dad as well? If so, do you have an episode guide for the order to watch them in?

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

Presumably he'd use the same order he used when he did the reactions years ago

[@7thHourFilms]

I don't know. While there is good stuff in Torchwood (namely S3), I don't think I want the extra workload again. Same for SJA but it kinda seems like a disservice since we watched her stories in Classic Who. I'll think about it.

[@NJH01]

@@7thHourFilmsmaybe ask your dad to watch some of the not quite well regarded episodes in his own time and just do the interesting/important ones

[@Senkoau]

A little sad you've already seen these but at least your Dad's seeing it for the first time. I'm still getting caught up (in the trial of the time lord classic who currently) but I should be up to date with your new who reactions soon.

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

If you're new, he already did reactions to new who a few years ago. The playlist is on his channel

[@Senkoau]

@@dylanshadowstar9779 I know he's seen them, I've watched a few and I know both of them have seen a few like Demons of the Punjab. Its why I'm a bit sad we'll only have one of them reacting for the first time since their discussions and speculation is part of the fun of the classic who reactions.

[@Senkoau]

I'll also add in addition to my above comment (eat Algorithm, eat) that the mannequins with guns may have been built and seeded specifically in London as that was where the Nestene consciousness was based. The shop dummies that Rose found in the basement at the start didn't seem to be armed, nor did the Micky decoy.

[@roxerforlife3663]

Before Christopher's Doctor, my last time watching Doctor Who was with Sylvester McCoy with Ace which i loved. I fell back into the series straight away. I love the humour and the undertone of sadness and anger with Christopher's Doctor in this episode. Also the chemistry between The Doctor and Rose is instant .

[@istoppedthecar]

Did Dad get the role?

[@richardlemin7840]

Istopped: Yes, I will be playing Col. Frank Chesney! ~Dad

[@jennifermorris6848]

Eighth Doctor audio books are fantastic.

[@whobp8]

I read recently that Russell Davies now regrets not giving this episode a more traditional Dr Who-ish name instead of Rose, but would this episode by any other name be as sweet?😂 Terror of the Autons was the last appearance of the mannequin menaces. They were intended to be featured in The Five Doctors along with the other classic baddies, but that scene was cut from the script. Well done remembering Camille Codouri was in King Ralph 👍. She's also in Nuns on the Run with Eric Idle and Robbie Coltrane. Billie Piper was indeed a pop star, this was the start of her transitioning to actress and she's done a lot of great stuff since. I concur that this makes a better introduction to the series for someone with no previous context than the Paul McGann movie does. Any Americans who watched the TV movie with no prior experience of Doctor Who must have found it baffling.

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

The thing about The Doctor having all those adventures but this episode is the first time he saw his face. You need to remember he has a Time Machine. Those photos are from the past but from his point of view he might not have had those adventures yet. And maybe Rose was there too

[@zvimur]

The one thing that I remember Camille Coduri (Jackie) in, was the romantic interest in King Ralph. Edit, well, like you said.

[@fleason771]

Billie Piper was a pop star before Doctor Who. She was 15 years old when her debut single "Because We want To" went to No1 in the UK charts making her the youngest solo artist to have a song debut at No1, that achievement has NOT been beaten to this day!! 🤯 Billie had given up her singing career in 2003 to focus on acting & the reason she went into singing was because she attended The Sylvia Young Theatre School. The opportunity to sing came first but she always wanted to act & when she had enough she stopped her music career & pursued acting. Other successful alumni from the school include, the late Amy Winehouse, Emma Bunton, Jessy Nelson, Dua Lipa & Daniel Kaluuya. Before Billie joined Doctor Who she had a well publicised marriage with a UK TV presenter called Chris Evans. They married in Vegas when she was 18 (he was 35) & they both spent a lot of the marriage drunk, spending loads of money (especially on cars) & having party's until their split in 2004. They both remain close friends to this day & Billie has said the marriage was the best drunken fun of her life & she needed it to help her deal with fame. I think Doctor Who came at the right time for her & she has since proved to be an accomplished award winning actress on stage & screen. Billie also currently shooting on "Wednesday" S2 for Netflix

[@twiceravenpuff]

I want to watch their new who reactions so bad, but I don't want to get spoiled for classic who stuff because I'm still on the 2nd doctor, I'm so tornnnnnnnn

[@kemmdog4444]

Yes the Third Doctor era was the last Auton story

[@Darren79]

40:38 - The theme was originally going to be a stereo mix of the 1963 original (the leaked episode in 2005 had this theme) but it really didn't work with the opening titles - it just didn't have any energy to work with the episode. Incidental composer Murray Gold, beefed up the original theme elements (the bass notes and lead melody & effects) by adding sampled brass instruments, strings between the bass notes and percussion. For the Christmas Special, they brought an orchestra into rerecord his theme embellishments.

[@avadanightmare1981]

27:40 Actually i saw that plotpoint explained somewhere, but i don't remember if it was a fact or a theory. Those adventure that Clyde has evidence for happend between the time doctor left Rose and Mickey and came back to tell her it travels in time. So earlier he just genuinely saw himself for the first time. Again, i don't know how accurate that is.

[@jacobhogan3208]

I genuinely didn’t think this day would come. (:

[@MrPaulMorris]

31:00 "I want to say she [Camillle Coduri] was in King Ralph..." well spotted, she was in that movie. I'm a big fan of Camiller in this role in Who. She has a superb ability in comic acting but as we will see (no spoilers) can flip in a heartbeat to convincing tragedy. Jackie had ther potentialk to be a very one dimensional comic character but Camille's performance always grounds it and makes Jackie a much more real person. By the way, 'middle class'? Jackie and Rose are very definitely working class. . . Final 'by the way': Billie Piper had indeed been a teen pop star (performing simply as 'Billie'--you can find her videos here on KZbin--and was phenominally successful being one of the highest selling UK female artists for a couple of years. This was her first significant acting role and, although she had attended stage school, there was some scepticism when she was selected that this was 'stunt casting' attempting to capture a younger audience. In fact she has subsequently gone on to great success both on screen and on stage winning critical praise and a number of awards.

[@ThomCurley]

Yay!

[@benjaminwilson2945]

29:46 A note to Richard and Alex I would Rose is more working class than middle class, here in the UK people usually say middle class to mean someone who is posh, but not quite aristocracy.

[@franohmsford7548]

No, we say Middle Class to mean Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, Bankers etc. You have to go up quite a bit further to get to the Upper Class - Judges, Generals, CEOs, Politicians, Moviestars, Premier League Footballers etc. And a lot further still to get to the Aristocracy!

[@benjaminwilson2945]

@@franohmsford7548 I guess that would depend on your definition of posh then, because I would consider lawyers and bankers to generally be posh occupations. They would therefore fit within the definition that I gave.

[@franohmsford7548]

@@benjaminwilson2945 This is because you're defining everyone with a bit of money as "posh", that's not what it means. - adjective - elegant or stylishly luxurious. - adverb {informal Brit} - in a refined or upper-class way. - noun {informal Brit} - the quality of being elegant, stylish, or upper class. - The more money you earn the more likely you are to be able to live a posh lifestyle but posh isn't a "class", it's a desire.

[@benjaminwilson2945]

@@franohmsford7548 I don't know how else you could describe the definition of "middle class" because middle class isn't the same as just being comfortable, which would usually be classified as upper working class. Also I feel like most people would use "posh" in the same way I would do. I think when it comes to language descriptivism makes more sense than prescriptivism. I didn't really come into the comment section to argue or anything so I hope you understand what I am trying to say. Have a good day.

[@franohmsford7548]

@@benjaminwilson2945 Actually that's exactly what "middle class" means - There's no such thing as "Upper Working Class"! There's "Lower Middle" and "Upper Middle" but you'll note that both are "Middle" - The Middle ClassES! - And Rose, Jackie, Mickey wouldn't even count as "Lower Middle", they are PURE Working Class!

[@thelivingbarfpoo2363]

Billie was a pop star before she was casted

[@barriehull7076]

Cast

[@thelivingbarfpoo2363]

@@barriehull7076 u feel better now?

[@thepandorica1660]

​@@barriehull7076what's the problem, officer?

[@dylanshadowstar9779]

28:40 daleks had different voices in mosr classic stories. Although in one third doctor story, they redubbed the audio of the daleks as they were notoriously bad.

[@benjaminwilson2945]

Make sure to watch the show in HD once you finish reacting to series 4 again. If I remember correctly they switched to HD during the series 4 specials.

[@benjaminwilson2945]

And so it came to pass that the show "Rose" again. ( As a side note I'm not the biggest fan of Rose in series 2, but I think she is ok in series 1 even if her and Mickey treated each other toxically).

[@lotemylife3006]

17:50 this line is SO fcking hilarious now 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just realized that yesterday, when I was watching another reaction to this episode xD (btw, it's very interesting to watch someone, who started with Ncuti and is now going back to Eccleston, that's a new first 😅🤣 since there are three starting points now, there are so many more options for the watching order xD there is an obvious "most correct" one (btw, it's not the one I used, but to my autistic brain chronologically pretty much equals correct 😅🤣) , but it's fun to see all the different versions :D)

[@roborob4296]

i mean the timeless child kinda opens the door for all kinds of shenanigans to explain away anything honestly. like it wasnt done for the right reasons but it does have potential. just they never had intent on using that potential just fixing something most people agree is a non issue just an unfortunate fact of the past ive kinda wondered about the autons getting guns too but i guess we could just explain it away in saying the ones with guns were maybe left over models from the previous invasion.

[@MuchWhittering]

Here we go then! I'm curious, how are you gonna be doing Torchwood and SJA this time around, since I assume you want your dad to see those too? I rewatched these first 3 Eccleston episodes at the weekend. I'm impressed they didn't have 10 minutes of lore drops about the entire history of the show. Space Babies, take note. Yeah, Billie Piper was a minor pop star before this. She was also married to Chris Evans. The Top Gear/Radio presenter, not the Marvel actor. I don't think the BBC was too confident this would be a hit. It was scheduled against Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway, which was a popular show on ITV that only ended this year. But Doctor Who got more viewers, at 10.5 million compared to Ant and Dec's 7.47, so clearly Doctor Who still had the audience pull after 16 years. Although I believe that, to this day, this episode is the highest viewed of NuWho, so I guess a lot of those viewers weren't keen. I'm sure someone probably told you last time, but those buses when the Doctor and Rose run weren't BBC buses, they were real ones. They stood around for ages waiting for buses to come past to film them running next to them. Nick Briggs is actually one of the bigwigs at Big Finish, so yeah, he does a lot of their monsters. Been doing the Daleks and Cybermen for them before he was even on the TV show. This is just speculation on my part, but I suspect the reason they went back to crediting him as "Doctor Who" is because RTD knew it would annoy people and he found it funny. Apparently David Tennant complained though, which is why they changed it. I had a look for Camille Coduri for you, and YES! She was in King Ralph in 1991. Never heard of it myself. Nor have I heard of most things she's done, according to IMDB, so well done for recognising her. I would agree to start someone with this...except I got a girl into Doctor Who recently with Hartnell, and she's really enjoying it. I know, I was shocked too.

[@MurkerlurkerVuk-ln6xx]

The mos viewed episode was voyaged of the dammemd actually probably beacuse of people watching it with there families on chirstmas and a very famous costar

[@BulbasaurRepresent]

I think Alex said he wasn't planning on doing Torchwood or SJA

[@MuchWhittering]

It came up on the stream, yeah. It's up in the air, but unlikely.​@@BulbasaurRepresent

[@somthingbrutal]

Lower Decks is a great Star Trek animated series it's much more of a comedy but for me the best of the current Star Trek show being made

[@stickytapenrust6869]

29:55 - Ace could hardly be described as “middle class”.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

Revival is the word your looking for not a reboot.

[@7thHourFilms]

I think we say that like we said Episode instead of Story. Just correct it in your head.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

Patrick Troughton also had humour.

[@KristianDavies-tm3dv]

Have you watched the scream of the shalka movie

[@7thHourFilms]

Yep. It's in the Classic Who playlist.

[@Sigurd-r5]

The Joes in Alien Isolation look like the Auton shop dummies.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

Did I miss something in the film? When did it show or say the Dakeks killed the Master? It said he was judged on Skaro, Although its not mentioned in the film, Skaro is an abandoned rock isnt it? The rest is assumotion, wasn't it?

[@TastySalamanders]

The daleks aren't directly mentioned - nor are they scene - but you can clearly hear them saying "EXTERMINATE" as the Master is executed. Though for some reason they sound like they inhaled helium.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

@@TastySalamanders Why would the Daleks just before they went to war with the Time Lords act as Executioner to the master for the Time Lords? If they were independent why hand over the remains to their greatest enemy to collect? Especially given they were about to go to war with them? It makes no sense... The Doctor in his monologue clearly says he was judged on Skaro, not exterminated, and the Master before judgement requested his remains were taken home to Galifrey. So how did he get to request that if he was exterminated by the Daleks?

[@alexbruce9499]

@@daveofyorkshire301 The reason for all of that is, quite simply, because the TV movie isn't very good. The daleks were shoehorned into it at the beginning, but without directly being shown or named probably to avoid having to pay Terry Nation. The TIme War obviously didn't exist as a concept at the time the movie was written, but for the rest of it is just a big contrivance.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

I don't understand why the Daleks even have a trial their space racists they exterminate anything that's not a dalek why would they bother giving anyone un-dalek like a trial is what I don't get.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

@@alexbruce9499 The original seasons had references to invasions of Galifrey. So the Time War was in-part clearly on the cards. Plus the Doctor was recalled urgently more than once to deal with security issues at Galifrey. It wasn't a new idea for the reboot.

[@barriehull7076]

Jon Pertwee was chief petty officer Pertwee in the radio series the Navy Lark a comedy. Rose is working class. I would say John Cleese would be more middle class.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

Nope Clive is as dead as a dodo. The reason why they didn't show his death scene on-screen was because your forgetting it's a family show.