Doctor Who - The Celestial Toymaker | Animation Review

[@Paulrogerson1]

Rumour is smugglers being worked on now or was worked on and they are discussing the wheel in space for the next one

[@mikihorvath6274]

I personally loved that The Toymaker appears as a giant too, it added extra depth to his presence.

[@JoshSnares]

Love, love, love that type of stuff!!

[@DanE-hr8nk]

Good it these yes

[@markbelsom3174]

Rumour has it The Wargames is getting colourized next.

[@smithpm81]

ooh hope so

[@FunkyFrick]

a rumor no more

[@smithpm81]

@@FunkyFrick really?????

[@postbunnie]

Love it when KZbin comments predict the future

[@Tedds]

I went to the BFI for this one with a few reservations - and I came out floored. Every few minutes, there was a brilliant new decision or alteration that pushed the envelope with what these reimaginings can do. I agree that I don't know if this 3D style and creative direction would work for every missing episode, particularly given the ease with which Toymaker can lean into the surreal and abstract anyway, but it was doubtlessly the right decision for this one and the entire team deserves our hearty congratulations.

[@JoshSnares]

Would have been great to see it on the big screen!

[@thestigmister]

Don't forget about the not final scene with watermark near the end of episode 1

[@DanE-hr8nk]

Yes good

[@Mr.DWHO96]

Loving the new set. The orange and vintage TV works so well. As always great video.

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks!

[@RossParker1877]

When the world needed them most they returned! Love the hair Josh

[@JoshSnares]

Thank youuuuuu

[@thecelestialtoygazer7816]

Ngl long hair Josh is a vibe

[@JeremyDuncan]

Josh trying to restrain himself from talking about the missing episode recovery process: 😖

[@LittleMissGhostess]

Any day with a Josh upload is a good day

[@onlyaspoonful3970]

Love the 70s vibes this channel has gained with the background and editing

[@JoshSnares]

oh thank you :) - obsessed with orange atm, the most 70s colour haha

[@alexlazebat839]

@@JoshSnares it the dutch gp today dutch is orange

[@macra_]

The return of my favourite Hobgoblin Enthusiast! Always great to hear your thoughts!

[@JoshSnares]

thanks Macra 🥰🥰🥰

[@garyhull5490]

i really enjoyed it loved the animation choice for this story. i'd love them to animate The Wheel in Space

[@SirDanFilmsUnltd]

A complete Season 5 would certainly be special

[@EmbiggenedJ]

Concerning the jumping/walking triangles issue, I think that's why they added the floating hexagons underneath.

[@sabrinatirabassi3529]

I was thinking about you yesterday, wondering why weren't you doing any more videos. Welcome back.

[@JoshSnares]

thanks for watching :)

[@AnotherScifiGuy]

I do actually really enjoy this animation a lot. Another great review, Josh. The hair looks awesome!

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks :)

[@AnotherScifiGuy]

@@JoshSnares you’re welcome! Always nice to get a Josh snares video notification!

[@MrChristiangraham]

Great to have you back, Josh. I absolutely loved this re-imagined Toymaker, and have been wondering about your take on it! Glad to hear that you found plenty to enjoy in it. I hope the same team tackles a few other stories.

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks!

[@stevenmcnicoll5060]

Another treat! Great piece, as always. Many thanks Josh.

[@Jamie-617]

Great video and review, Josh! Also, love the background.

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks :)

[@TARDISTelevision]

Love the video Josh. This animation actually made this story watchable in my opinion

[@JoshSnares]

100% - thanks for watching!!

[@JAProductions494]

Josh has just done something incredible, they single-handedly convinced me to give this animation a shot. I saw the trailer and I absolutely hated it and was more than happy to skip this release. I thought it looked terrible from the limited footage and The Web of Fear dampened any good will I had. But after watching this video, I became more willing to give it a shot. I just thought that “if Josh Snares, the biggest Web of Fear animation critic I know, doesn’t mind it then it’s probably decent”. After finishing this video, I found the odd clip online and it looks a lot better than the trailer made it look. I don’t know whether I’m less cynical now or whether the trailer just looked bad on its own but I’ve definitely been convinced to watch this animation now. The Celestial Toymaker is one of my personal favourite missing stories based off of how much I loved the reconstruction and so I’m quite excited to see it reimagined Thank you Josh for changing my mind, keep up the great work 😁👍

[@JoshSnares]

I’m officially an influencer!! Haha - but seriously, that original trailer was really, really bad.

[@Kaoruishere]

Nice that you gave the photographic construction a shoutout too! It's so well done and a significant improvement on the ones we had before. For the first time I was able to follow what was actually happening in the story! The animation was a real good one too - and I'd be happy to see more of them in that style. What a step up from Web 3! (Btw, what IS your take on that episode's animation? I always wondered!)

[@JoshSnares]

Yeah I’m happy they’re doing photo recons for the releases now, they keep getting better each time. When they get a bit of CGI, it really brings it to life

[@LegoTardisArchives]

A glorious return with glorious hair

[@JoshSnares]

Oh thank you!

[@GibbySoapBox]

Coming after Jon Pertwee’s brand honestly! Or Capaldi in Series 10!

[@LegoTardisArchives]

@@JoshSnaresjust saying the truth. Also I am so happy Ive discovered your channel because missing episodes are now my favorite topic

[@JoshSnares]

@@GibbySoapBox 😂😂

[@tgushiniere]

Thanks for the video! I like the animation style, it’s different. For me I like the various styles of animation and count myself lucky in getting them. Otherwise it’s just audio. Loved your analysis Josh, Thsnks!

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks for watching!

[@Xanthe_Cat]

Great review Josh, and this has me really enthused for picking up the animation as soon as I find the time to haunt the local JB, so thank you very very much. I know well the tension between the two camps A and B, and it seems with the addition of the photo reconstruction there’s probably something to satisfy most of those two groups of fans. I am happy watching a reconstruction or animation that caters to either of these (I’m aware many are allergic to Cura telesnap recons) and the artistic choices in the full colour animation sound as though they’d improve the story for me (I’ve found the previous recons quite underwhelming, with episode 2 very hard to listen to). I’m with you in wanting more Hartnell animations to come, though obviously with so much more of Troughton’s stories having been lost it was right to try to reestablish as much as they have so far. Marco Polo has always been a favourite of mine although modern audiences would find it interminably slow, so I imagine it might be treated to a cut down; and the diversity of locations would involve a lot of work. Myth Makers would also be great for what they could do with expansive sets of an ancient city under siege (I find it impossible to listen to the versions which haven’t been given the MArk Ayres treatment, with the pitch stabilisation). As always, love your work. Best wishes

[@Xanthe_Cat]

Oh, just saw elsewhere in the comments it’ll be out around 4 September. Thanks, oh ye mighty and wondrous hobgoblin enthusiast!

[@MSDOSProject]

Chalk me down as one of the people who could never get into the original recon or audio of CTM, but this story made it much better to watch, They definitely leaned into the whole realm of toys thing, and I think it really works. I will definitely be watching this one again. I think this is one along with the Macra Terror where the animation is actually an improvement on the original in many ways. I'm all for another Shapeshifter story (Space Pirates perhaps?!?!?)

[@SirDanFilmsUnltd]

I’d be happy with them doing either Space Pirates or Wheel In Space. They seem like a good fit for those kinds of stories, and they’d both complete a Troughton season.

[@matheo_dl16]

Love your videos so much !!! Thank you

[@mtaimry]

yay a new Josh Snares video!

[@doctorwhoproductions834]

I’ve enjoyed all the animations, some more then others but i’m so happy that whichever story it is and whatever style it’s in, theres a animated version of it, we are so lucky as doctor who fans to have audio recordings of every missing episode

[@nicolebee3283]

Been looking forward to this

[@himynameisben95]

Even you hypothetically suggesting the idea that they edit the audio to fit the animation better made me shudder, oh no no no no no 😅

[@JoshSnares]

Haha!

[@SirDanFilmsUnltd]

Somewhere, in a far off land, Ian Levine just shattered a glass…

[@ThatRandomFastingGuy]

Born in the wilderness years and the Celestial Toymaker Novelization is still my favourite Doctor Who story of all time. Even though Pertwee is my favourite Dr. Who.

[@TrentonBlessWrestlemania489]

I really liked the animation of The Celestial Toymaker. I definitely think it was good. And 100% need Rob Ritchie back on the animations.

[@SuperCookie64]

Wait, they have an accurate 3D model for Steven in the photo reconstructions, but they didn't use that for the animation?!

[@idjles]

Josh, I want to thank you for your consistent growth over so many years now and your total dedication to the Lost Episodes. I still remember with fondness your skits on the streets of Victor.

[@JoshSnares]

Haha thanks!

[@davidbanan.]

Hiya Josh, great to see you :)

[@JoshSnares]

Hello! Thanks for watching :)

[@ksay7649]

wow great hair, i adored THAT moment in episode three

[@JoshSnares]

Thank you!! Yeah it’s such an exciting scene!

[@SeanerCullen]

"Hobgoblin enthusiast" Ok, thats a slay. Great vid josh

[@JoshSnares]

someone’s gotta stand up for the hobgoblins!!

[@DaHawaiianKnifa]

This animation + surviving episode 4 was my first time viewing the story, and I loved it! The story is a little weak yeah, but how they directed each game more than made up for it. Loved the companions dynamic too. It's amazing we can get animations that can look this good, and I'm excited for what they make next :)

[@Vadim_Morozov]

7:11 Yeah, bothered me since I've heard that car is referenced as "booth".

[@SuperCookie64]

I know this is 2 months late, but if you ask me, you should never change the audio. The whole point of the animations is to add a visual element to the audio, and if you make a change that doesn't match with the audio, you shouldn't make that change to begin with. I also think that the animations should always fit with any surviving episodes so that people like myself who prefer to watch surviving episodes whenever possible can do so. This is what makes animations like The Abominable Snowmen and The Underwater Menace quite difficult to follow in some areas.

[@lunabourke3923]

I would say this the best animation. I cannot believe this is the same team that did the Web of Fear, they should re do it tbh, the models are so much better and the obvs the movement. Happy for them to do more now, this is such a major step up.

[@WertyQ543]

Every single animation release should be different but should follow the original telly snaps

[@5SSS]

A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@ImperiatrixMatt]

Watch it earlier today and found it a fantastic watch. The story itself felt very much like a bottle neck type of story with minimal sets, etc. The animation brings it up a couple of magnitudes with the set designs, camera work, and other changes to make it a very good story. The art style works very well on this, as the directors said on the making of, there's now a trend of 3d animation having these more painting like effects rather than photorealistic. I feel like this team should attempt either Marco Polo to exploit the vastness of sets or do something similar to this for the space pirates, especially with the later having less reference material so they can be more imaginative.

[@timothybarnett1006]

All well and good, but when will you get off the fence on _Web of Fear_ episode 3 animation?

[@JoshSnares]

Imagine if this whole time I actually loved it?? haha

[@EngineerLume]

The animation really saved this one. The games are really elevated by the funky animation and the jittery movement of the card people was fun. Honestly a lot of the problems in this story are inherent to the original story. The entirety of episode 3 was exceedingly dull and Hartnells vacation taking place during episodes 2&3 means we lose a lot of interaction between the Title Character of the show and the Title Character of the story which were really interesting. But overall, really fun! Glad it's finally happened and hope we get more like this in the future

[@JoshSnares]

Totally agree!

[@mayojar5264]

I really hope they animate the wheel in space soon. It's the only classic cyberman episode that's missing.

[@JoshSnares]

I’m sure it’ll happen one day!

[@emblom52]

Haven't watched this yet; I'm saving it for when I reach it naturally on my next trip back through the Hartnell era (so sometime next spring, probably). Glad to hear it turned out well. What I really appreciate about this is the willingness to shake things up with a radically different art style than the mid-00s flash cartoon aesthetic that these typically go for. I'd love to see more experimentation like this in the future.

[@matthewbolitho-jones]

I like The Celestial Toymaker

[@Thenesrookie]

I honestly wish they'd marketed this better. Having the BFI screening in March then not releasing it till June had me confused as to when it was actually releasing 😅

[@MrRjhyt]

Recreations tread a difficult ground. Personally, as long as it's true to the story, and doesn't destroy immersion, we should accept it is a re-interpretation. Almost a different media. I enjoy the expanded sets. As long as they're serving the intent or aspiration of the story, I would feel foolish to stick too rigoroursly to what were production constraints of the sixties. We're not at a place technologically speaking where CGI characters are really going to convince anyone of their authenticity. As you say, as long as they're recognisable, especially with some of the story still existing in its original broadcast format. As for adjusting the audio, if it fixes problems, and is well done, I'm in favour. We have impersonators for Big Finish, and that works...

[@bazaul]

I thought it was a great animation. A perfect story for animators as the world is a crazy ‘Alice in Wonderland’. Like you say, it’s matching the audio. They did a pretty good job.

[@DiamandaHagan]

I was really amused by the actors playing dolls being turned into actual dolls in the animation but keeping the bit where Dodo touches one of them and announces that they're not dolls etc but real people lol CAMP A FOR LIFE.

[@JoshSnares]

Soooo funny!!

[@MrPouley_]

‪Stoping everything I’m doing to watch the new Josh Snares video‬

[@JoshSnares]

thank you 🫡

[@interstellar1962]

I'm in my sixties, therefore a long time fan. I find the 'camp A' moaners an embarrassment, too rigid and rooted in the past. I applaud opening up missing classic stories to a wider modern audience and thank the team behind this one for giving the story new life. 👏

[@marcse7en]

I'm 62, and I've watched since 1971, and I'm DEFINITELY "Camp A," and according to you, I'm a "moaner" and an "embarrassment." Perhaps you should try to be less judgemental of others who don't share your opinion? Am I not entitled to an opinion of my own? The state of garbage New Who reminds of why I'm correct to be "rigid" and "rooted in the past," as you say. I'm sorry that my views clearly don't meet with your approval. I make no apologies. I've disliked your comment. However, that doesn't seem to actually do anything.

[@turdole]

I was very skeptical towards the trailer initially, but I’ll definitely be giving it a go now! Thanks for the review

[@JoshSnares]

That trailer was garbage!!! Hope you like it :)

[@colinwatts9376]

Hi Josh great review, I’m curious if you watched the “Dinopuff” animation of episode one on KZbin, I’d love to know what you thought

[@JoshSnares]

Loved it! I did a video talking about it, and other fan animations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXOqfHWAfbCZp9E

[@relative-dimension-in-space]

I also found myself surprised and liked it quite a lot! There are a few things I took issue with but for the most part I very much enjoyed it despite myself, which I really wasn’t expecting. I don’t know if you could really get away with this animation style for any other story but at least now I’m not going to feel very concerned about it if this team is used again.

[@CJFS00s]

*YOU* are my favourite Doctor Who animation! 🫵🏻 ❤️

[@JoshSnares]

Awww stop!!! 💕

[@melissajenkner788]

Love your content

[@rsienicki]

I've seen this episode as telesnaps some time ago, so I could kinda compare these and I really liked this animation. The feel was very close to watching the episode. I chose the 4:3 black and white version to have it as close to the old show and it worked. And the changes also worked. I don't mind if the are not 100% faithful, cause the animation looked more interesting than it was originally. As much as I liked the 2D animations I hope this is the way going forward, honestly.

[@edrumour]

Great to see you back Josh! I love this story and think the animation style added so much to it. Not perfect but overall a really enjoyable watch. Would really like to see The Savages next

[@billartman9433]

I grew up listening to the narrated audiotracks and I would imagine sets and worlds outside of the BBC's budget (and now use the tracks as animation practice). and so I think I am in camp B with having a little bit of fun with the adaptation.

[@JoshSnares]

That’s a very good perspective - these animations are like reading a novel adaptation!

[@captaindemobeard9560]

Very good review. I appreciate people who don't just put their own input, but include everyone else's too. (Which is what a critic is supposed to do.) I personally enjoyed this release of the Celestial Toymaker, as this is one of my favourite Doctor who stories. I would agree with you though, the comment in the animated version of episode 4 was a bit odd, but personally I watch these dvds in black and white with the original episodes included. I admit I was a little weirded out by the animation at first, but then I thought the animation actually kind of fitted the theme of the story. It is ment to reflect fun and games after all. The celestial Toymaker is one of my favourite monsters in Doctor Who, and I've been waiting for this story for a long time.

[@DamonWhatif]

Josh Snares mention?

[@JoshSnares]

josh snares cameo at 0:00

[@SamyulDavis]

Watched it last night and was blown away? Do I love every Hayles script now?

[@Idez15]

10:29 😂😂

[@alexjensen1524]

Yaaaaay Josh!! Much love to you from Chicago. Onto the content of the video. I am usually more Camp B than Camp A, but for existing episodes that are being animated I’d rather them stick CLOSER to things like the camera movements and blocking than going all wacky. But the nature of TCT made it make sense to go all wacky for all 4 parts. I think the team behind this could maybe make a decent effort at animating The Space Pirates. My own want for the next animation is The Wheel in Space or The Massacre (I’ve been doing a re-watch from An Unearthly Child and I’ve been loving the historicals way more than I remember the first time I saw them).

[@JoshSnares]

Yeah - when episodes survive, that makes it harder for sure!

[@TardisTimegirl]

A new Josh video Fantastic! It really made my day! Although I’m probably camp A, with a hint of B, I quite enjoyed this reimagining. As for the future I’m definitely with you in saying “Bring back Rob Ritchie”.

[@JoshSnares]

Thank you! Love your work!

[@ksaunders4362]

How do you get to watch these episodes so early? No, really, how? I just had a look and The Celestial Toymaker isn't due out until September 4 in Australia. Are you ordering them direct from the BBC and paying the terrible exchange rate? I've just seen they're releasing The Daleks in colour. I am soooo tempted. Maybe I'll just blow my entire salary for this week on those two preorders plus the limited edition Season 15 and Season 20 blu ray collections. Hmmm. What to do? My answer is always the same for the animated stories - Marco Polo, please!

[@JoshSnares]

Yeah, I always buy from Rarewaves in the UK. It’s generally cheaper than the Aus releases now! (For the collection sets, at least. I paid $110 for one of them, and it’s $145 at JB HI-FI)

[@aw-h3875]

I'm still waiting for the rest of K9 and company. A full shot for shot parody, we know you can do it...

[@JoshSnares]

😂😂😂

[@aw-h3875]

@@JoshSnares ☹️

[@NealHunterHyde]

Watched Celestial Toymaker over the weekend. Even tho I wasn’t the biggest fan of the animation aesthetic (not that I’m an expert), I’m appreciative it was made and thrilled to be able to watch this story finally.

[@whovian59]

Thanks for your video, Josh. 🥰 I’m in Team B although I have no problem with the opinions of Team A! The animation’s fluidity has come a long way since Web of Fear episode three, but The Doctor and Steven’s avatars are very Aunt Sally, as in Worzel Gummidge. I’m otherwise okay with the animation style for this story, but appreciate that purists may be apoplectic. I find it hard to imagine this particular style being appropriate for any other story at present, although once the animators perfect human likenesses, maybe it could work in the future. Who knows? For now, I still lean towards the 2D style of the Dalek animations. ❤️❤️➕🔷

[@Mark-nh2hs]

I saw the trailer and went "oh dear" then I watched it and was drawn into the story and didn't notice any of the flaws and the episodes flew by. Really enjoy it and it works due to abstract nature of the story.

[@JoshSnares]

That trailer was sooo bad - I hear the exact same story all the time!

[@android65mar]

Bring back Rob Ritchie yes!

[@PirateNovelist]

A new video and I’m under an hour this time?! YAS!

[@JoshSnares]

I released it at a weird time! Haha

[@PirateNovelist]

@@JoshSnares I’m a USA watcher so it’s super normal time for me haha!! I think your video highlights that any team can knock a project outta the park. I am behind on the animations, but I’m happy to see the first doctor animations and I hope they continue. I’m partial to the second because they are so close to finishing, but I’m good to wait for now!

[@theneonchimpchannel9095]

I hope that they do continue to make the animated recreations, then once there's none left to recreate, they should look at doing the audio adventures too. There's 2 with Jon Pertwee, Elisabeth Sladen and Nicholas Courtney from the 90s that would be great to see given this sort of treatment, especially as all 3 are sadly no longer with us. Then there's so much Big Finish stuff to work with. I forget the name of it, but there's one where they deal with Peri's multiple timelines caused by her time with The Doctor, I'd love to see that one animated. One that would be quite easy to do, maybe as a DVD/BluRay bonus feature, would be another 6th Doctor story (I can't remember the title for this one either) where he receives a call from a wrong number but it leads to him helping the woman on the other end. It was a really interesting concept and would probably not take too long to animate. The 6th Doctor and the 8th Doctor really deserve to be represented in animation as they didn't get as much screen time as some of the others. The same goes for the 9th Doctor as he only did the 1 season on TV, although I'm not sure he'd want the BBC doing anything with his audio adventures, at least not while RTD is employed.

[@mushroom.king5]

Hi Josh, I am animating the Highlanders on my channel, any suggestions?

[@JoshSnares]

Hello! I had a look at what you posted 5 months ago, and it looks good! Good luck :)

[@mushroom.king5]

@@JoshSnares Thank you so much😊

[@desro745]

I wonder if when they find the perfect style and budgets for doctor who animation if well every get every episode of classic who animated in the same style

[@shortangel333]

instead of targeting to all fans they should just target towards me. Turn the doctor into a lego man, turn steven into Stephanie (the writer of Twilight) and turn Dodo into a magical unicorn who can shoot acid (the drug) from her horn. Turn the challenges into Total Drama Island challenges and make the Celeystial Toymaker just Chris McClain.

[@JoshSnares]

😂😂

[@SirDanFilmsUnltd]

NPH singing and dancing to “I Wanna Be Famous” is now in my head.

[@alexlazebat839]

if it does add up why not cut it out as i presume eenie, meenie, miney, mo has been cut out and macra terror has a slight edit of the make over room

[@JoshSnares]

Yeah that got cut. Good point on Macra

[@derianimp]

I need to buy this blu ray!

[@kazinwho]

If they were going to change any story via animation, this was the one to do. I haven't watched it yet - it's one of my least favorite Hartnells - but I like what I've seen of it so far. Far, far better than Web of Fear 3, as you say. Here's hoping we get more animations soon!

[@burgunbeerd]

This seems incredibly difficult to get in Australia

[@JoshSnares]

Coming out 4th of September at JB HI-FI. I imported mine from Rarewaves, and came months ago. I don’t wait for AUS releases anymore (they take too long, and usually more expensive!)

[@burgunbeerd]

@@JoshSnares ahhhhhhhhhhhh. I was hoping for just digital tbh but even that seems non existent. Guess I'll wait :(

[@JoshSnares]

@@burgunbeerd yeah they rarely ever do that in Aus. Sometimes Apple sells them???

[@Jaye_The_Gaye]

im a purist, i just personally hate when big changes are made to the original production. i honestly really do miss the days when these animations werent embellished, when they were made to fill gaps and nothing more. The Faceless Ones feels like the last "gap filler" animation we will ever have. it surprisingly stayed rather true to the original style and telesnaps even if it looked a bit stilted. i guess im just an old fart at heart because these new "embellished" animations just dont do it for me anymore. i want accurate space fillers but i know thats never happening again. that being said, i do think the cgi here is....interesting, if the team can refine it more and more it could be a perfect way to do the more complex "budget nightmare" stories like Marco Polo and Master Plan

[@ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575]

This release for me is mixed. One thing is that this release is made for 16:9, the 4:3 B/W version definitely doesn't do the animation justice as a lot of shots are made specifically for the colour animation. I couldn't help but compare the first episode to Dinopuff's version. Their version captured more of that humanity with the first test as the dolls fail, and the malice with the Toymaker. It had more of that Camp B balance between creative liberty but within more of a budget that the BBC might have increased. Having the dolls be dolls lost that edge for me. Things definitely improved in Part 2 though, I absolutely love the Playing Card character designs. I got more used to the design of Steven, it isn't perfect, but far in a way closer than Hartnell's design. No idea why these colour animations can't seem to nail Hartnell's look in comparison to Troughton. One thing I worried about was the look of the surviving Episode 4. Is it me or did they upscale it? It looked smoother than before rather than that nice remaster of Dalek Invasion of Earth.

[@Gothic55]

I was not looking forward to the CT animation but I was very pleasantly surprised with the end product - I massively preferred coloured version. My top choice for next animation would be Marco Polo and then Dalek masterplan Great episode as usual🎉🎉🎉🎉 Thank you❤.

[@TheDigitalApple]

Hearing how this animation was done by the same crew who did the animation for “The Web of Fear” episode 3 surprises me, but I’m just very thankful they didn’t use the same motion capture of the last animation.

[@deanteasdale8261]

Breathtaking, really livened the story up 🙂 I'd like to see The Crusade next 🙂

[@TobyOrNotToby92]

I've not watched it yet, but I can see what they're going with and although I prefer the more traditional animation style, if this is easier and cheaper to make, so we're more likely to get future reconstructions, I'm very happy with the result (web of fear very much did not meet that threshold). Storywise, I was really surprised they went with Toymaker to animate - it really does not come out well under modern sensibilities. I'm happy to hear they tackled how shallow and dull the story is by going experimental with the animation to make up for it. I'd be interested to hear how they (presumably) removed the use of a slur - re-record the line? Omit that section entirely? Have Dodo sneeze loudly? As ever, mourning the irony that Steven Taylor, the most handsome companion, has so many episodes that exist only in audio format.

[@ThatRandomFastingGuy]

I am still devastated this wasn't helmed by Dinopuff. Also, welcome back to the GOAT.

[@JoshSnares]

Love Dinopuffs work!!

[@DaleRibbons]

I haven't seen the Toymaker yet. I had heard it was coming, but last time I checked, it wasn't available in my area, so I kind of forgot about it. I'm not sure about the computer animation, but I'm willing to give it a try... if I gret the opportunity to see it. As to what I'd like to see next, I vote for the Highlanders, just to complete, as far as possible, the Second Doctor. After that, the Massacre. I saw a KZbin recreation of it, and really liked the story. If they were to expand the animations past the missing stories, I'd like to see them do the stories that were originally planned for season 23, like Mission To Magnus for example. I believe Big Finish made audio versions of most if not all.

[@DoctorWhoBookClub]

Great review! Was skeptical going into watching the animation but was blown away. Really added a layer of menace & scale. Loved the special feature with Lisa Bowerman, Peter Purves, & Maureen O’Brien. 74 minutes of them in a Doctor Who themed escape room!

[@JoshSnares]

I haven’t had the courage to watch the escape room feature - you’re the first I’ve heard who said they liked it! Haha

[@DoctorWhoBookClub]

@@JoshSnares It’s a lot of fun, although I did worry about them damaging some of the props. From the title sequence, it looks like they filmed 6 more of them, one for each classic Doctor. Hosted by DWM’s Emily Cook.

[@shawnrobinson981]

I liked the The Celestial Toymaker animation a lot more than I thought I would. Like you, I wasn't really a fan of the style/character designs from seeing the trailer. I also prefer 2D animation to 3D...but I really enjoyed the when i got the bluray. I am also slightly iffy on the story itself. I think it is a really interesting concept, but it is so weird and visual, it completely doesn't work as a telesnap reconstruction. I think this is the reason that in the past i didn't like it. but the big sets the fact that the Toymaker really comes off as a God in the animation, and the fact that i can actually follow the games with the visuals....I really enjoyed the story. I also didn't mind the visual changes... I tend to be more of a camp B than a camp A guy.... If it is something like web of fear or the faceless ones (where most of the story is intact) I want the animations to be done in the same style as the show so i can watch the original episodes and watch the animation for only the missing eps... but in something like Evil of the Daleks, Macra Terror or The Toymaker when either no episodes or next to no episodes remain, I feel go wild with the visuals.

[@aducharme01]

I was genuinely surprised at how much I liked this animation. I'm not really huge on the animations in general, and for rewatches I'm significantly more likely to go back to the reconstructions first, but a lot of the visual liberties taken with this one really enhanced my experience with it, so I may actually come back to this one in the future, which is about the highest praise that I can give an animation.

[@denniscattell]

I'd like to see The Wheel In Space animated by the team that worked on the CT tale. I was 9 when Wheel was on TV, and I think that watching it now would refresh my memories of it quite considerably! Let me also say that I enjoyed this review of the CT animation, you made your points very well and had good reasons and examples to back them up. Pleasure to watch this vid! ✅✨💯

[@JoshSnares]

Would love to see Wheel too!

[@vickyxleigh]

I'm yet to watch this myself, but I remember seeing the trailer and instantly going "that's not my Doctor!!!" thanks to the animation style. I absolutely hated it. Then I found myself going back to it, and after considering the concept coupled with the animation, I thought it'd probably the best thing to have done. It looks creepy and weird and I think that matches the tone of the story perfectly, plus the music sounds hypnotic and interesting - and that's just from the trailer! Which I'm now going to go watch again. Thanks for the new video, I missed you

[@JoshSnares]

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[@andrewireland9061]

“Anything beginning with M or has Savages in it” 😂😂😂😂😂❤great to see you back Josh!

[@JoshSnares]

Thanks Andrew! 💕

[@GibbySoapBox]

I was floored with the animation and how far we’ve come since Power of the Daleks. And it really made me enjoy the story more compared to previous watches through the telesnaps.

[@LawrenceAkers]

Like you, I see both sides. I feel there has to be respect paid to getting it as accurate as possible, but some creative license if that isn't possible. I personally enjoyed The Toymaker animation, better than I anticipated.

[@Tomalak]

New Josh video! I loved this animation, it’s probably better than the story deserves, and really elevated it into a fun, creepy, nasty little adventure. After Underwater Menace left me cold I was starting to wonder if the novelty had worn off with these animations, so this was a real shot in the arm. I would love to see these guys do The Myth Makers and Marco Polo, and all the other missing M stories. Going back to the flat Underwater Menace style would be a big shame IMO.

[@JoshSnares]

UWM was so bad hahaha

[@LifeinAnalog]

My main worry was that the animation wouldn't do justice to how great Peter Purves' bum looked in those tight pants. Maybe that was just me?