Doctor Who: The Complete Story of 'The Cyber Wars'

[@thewhoaddicts]

I hope you enjoyed the Story of the Cyber Wars! As always, if there's anything you think I missed, let me know in the comments. And if I made any mis-pronunciations I do apologise! Do enjoy!

[@elliottsims2474]

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[@CaseyDalglish]

Well they always say We will Survive

[@KaFaraqGatri]

The flying saucer picture was taken from Dalek Invasion of Earth.

[@tichepotato7992]

You missed out the entirety of the Cyber War that happened after the Sword of Orion. This is covered in the Big Finish series Cyberman. It's probably the most indepth Cyber War that we ever see, given how we actually see the war and not just the aftermath.

[@BigThumbus]

Completely unrelated, is there a way I could get a set of posable dalek figures. Ya know, without having to pay $120 American for the special weapons dalek, or $70-$80 for just 2 of the classic figures. I would greatly appreciate it 😊

[@theEternaleye-t5y]

Head Canon: The Cyber Empire was able to return following its demise thanks in part of the Cybusmen, small pockets of Cybusmen that escaped the alternate reality where able to link up and integrate with the Remnants of the Cybermen, the Cybermen then adopted the Cybusmen's armour as an upgrade. It explains how the Cyber Empire was able to recover and the design change.

[@benjamingraham8640]

This makes a lot of sense they some how escaped Victorian era travelled to the future and continued the cyber wars

[@russelltietjen4407]

9:54 Ah yes, the Oreo War - Man VS. Machine, Good VS. Evil, Cookie VS. Milk. The eternal struggle continues.

[@Gojirawars03]

I always liked the idea of a massive cyber army made up of multiple factions and designs from every era battling humanity and their allies. Imagine, a legion of Cyber Warriors blasting humans to pieces, while _Cyberiad_ Cybermen rush in at impossibly fast speeds and capture human survivors. _Cybus_ Cybermen build massive conversion factories to greatly grow the number of new units. _Revenge_ Cybermen using their helmet guns to mow down human battalions. _Invasion_ Cybermen burning down human settlements and forts with their flamethrower-like guns. _Attack’s_ Stealth Cybermen sneaking in undetected and stealthily taking out enemy defenses. _Tomb_ Cybermen building massive forts and tombs to house damaged or hibernating units. Mondasian Cybermen serving primarily as scientists and repair workers. Massive Cyber-Kings laying waste to planet after planet, converting any survivors with the factories built inside of them. Cyber Lords commanding the Kings from within. The Cyber Controller, Planner, and Director all working to strategize and plot out their battle tactics. And David Banks’ _Earthshock_ Cyber Leader commanding the legions of Cybermen on the front lines.

[@ZOMBiFOX13]

Oh my god why can I imagine that so clearly in my head That would be so cool to see

[@loeuf508]

Excellent

[@Sean_Last1995]

with Ashad as his second in command

[@Gojirawars03]

@@Sean_Last1995 Pretty sure Ashad wouldn’t really fit in with the others on account of his whole plan to purge the organic material from every Cyberman.

[@dmaxwell910901]

@@Gojirawars03 Plus the fact that he wasn't fully converted. He was very much a zealot who wouldn't fit in with his fellow Cybermen.

[@chriscaygill6331]

Great video, I can imagine how much effort goes into these videos. Well done.

[@thewhoaddicts]

Thank you! They do hurt my head after a while! This was one was surprisingly easier than I first expected

[@DeathBYDesign666]

There is probably an indexed wiki dedicated to doctor who where you can at least get the cliff notes from the related lore. Every sci-fi franchise has one and legions of fans who have added to it, the only hurdle is cross checking to make sure it's accurate.

[@jimbobsenpai3082]

@@DeathBYDesign666 don’t discredit the effort he puts into it

[@DeathBYDesign666]

@@jimbobsenpai3082 I wasn't doing that necessarily but it's not like the old days when one had to go out, make calls and scroll through and cross reference old microfilm newspaper and magazine clippings at the library for days or weeks in a row. It's all at the palm of our fingertips now.

[@jimbobsenpai3082]

@@DeathBYDesign666 fair I suppose

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

I'd like to see those Cyber-horses appear in the show at some point.

[@forcedalek]

I love these type of videos! I always watch them while doing washing up or eating lunch! I have no doubts this video will be utterly amazing I can’t wait to watch it!

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

Awesome summary of the Cyber Wars!! :D It has such an interesting history and it's great to see how the recent finale fits into the story! :) Epic video! :D

[@kurankrishan8971]

I would to see a big finish audio drama about the cyber wars Part 1: 5th and 6th doctor team up travel to the 22nd century Part 2: 7th and 8th join the cyber wars and trys to help the doctor Part 3: the 9th and 10th doctors joins the group as the cyber time lord joins the war with a recovered John Simm master. I’d call the crossover the 6 doctors Do you guys like the idea?

[@thewhoaddicts]

Get that pitched to the guys at Big Finish!

[@theknightsofawesomeness2701]

Ahem you might be interested in the cyberman big finish series?

[@mitchellalexander9162]

>A Cyber Man Time Lord At that point why don't you bring Back Mr. Clever and make him a Threat separate from Matt Smith's Doctor.

[@DCSMedia]

Absolutely fabulous video as always. This idea of the cyber war has always intrigued me but I’ve never been sure as to the events so thanks for making this.

[@tenshiigarashi4063]

The series 12 two part finale stated that humans were basically extinct by the end of that Cyber War in the far far future ( only the companions and the people who later stay to live in the present remained). The surviving humans already crossed the boundary to an unknown universe or dimension. If this is true then how there were humans in Utopia?.

[@JohnCena-iq3tg]

It’s chibnul. It makes no scene

[@Mcdude02]

Anything after season 10 isn't canon obviously

[@dmaxwell910901]

They were *NEARLY* wiped out. Nothing to say they couldn't have eventually repopulated, including the humans to escaped to the boundary. There's literally trillions of years between the stories, anything could have happened.

[@dmaxwell910901]

@@JohnCena-iq3tg Lol Chibnal wasn't great, but you're just making up a criticism.

[@koalam96]

Really informative documentary, thanks for making it! I'm in the middle of reading 'Killing Ground' at the moment, so it was nice to see how it ties into the overall arc.

[@JEEEVANJOHN]

I would absolutely love it if you Did one for the monk as apart form the master and the doctor, he is the most intriguing timelord ever to exist.

[@jamiethomas3768]

Can’t wait for that bad wolf story video.

[@TheQueenOfSkaro]

Absolutely amazing video also Do you think the cyber wars played a part in starting the time war even if it was just a small part

[@thewhoaddicts]

They seem to be completely separate as The Cybermen were luckily kept clear of the Time War. If they'd collided then God help the universe!

[@jamiebowler4693]

@@thewhoaddicts do you think the cybermen ran into the daleks pre time war/ during time war as the cult of skaro recognise the cybusmens “outline”

[@ValeryValWho]

Wow absolutely amazing and well documented!

[@SuperFrandaman]

Love it! Please do a Complete History of Torchwood video!

[@JAProductions494]

He already did Captain Jack which does talk about Torchwood quite a lot!

[@SuperFrandaman]

@@JAProductions494 true, but in terms of the history of the organisation as a whole, all the events that unfolded both in the tv show, DW, the Big Finish audio dramas, etc. Although Jack plays a huge role in the institute, he wasn't present for its full entirety

[@TheWeepingDalek]

I know there isn't much to maybe go on. But another good video might be completely history of the sontaran rutan war

[@hellothere2052]

I hope the 60th anniversary is like some large scale showing of the cyber wars

[@liamheneghan4977]

Yesss the cyber bois are back 🙌🏻

[@joefreeman3087]

I would say Ascension of the Cybermen is the closest we've ever gotten to a Cyber Wars story, but the new series should look into adapting some more of the audio adventures because there's some great Cyber stories in there.

[@patchworkfellow]

*Cybermen:* *Are brutally converting every human they can find into their own, sadistic race* *Humans:* _I sleep_ *Cybermen:* *Steals the Humans’ Haribos* *Humans:* _REAL SH1T_

[@hardkermit69]

Love the videos keep it up mate

[@duncanshaw1256]

Could you also do one on the complete war between the Sontarans and the Rutans?

[@pertuk]

kudos for using David Banks' book

[@tscarb]

That’s a huge accomplishment dude! Thank you!!!!

[@antpearson9676]

This is an exceptional piece of work What a gargantuan effort Thanks Ant p uk Teacher

[@Lord_Acidicus]

Great video mate, nice to see more cybermen stuff from people. Just one bug as you mispronounced orion. Apart from that you did well You would pronounce it like or-i-in

[@CrispyPro]

🤖

[@DCSMedia]

Oh no. Its Cyber-Crispy 😱

[@duncanshaw1256]

How about the complete story of the Dalek Wars? That would be a great follow up!

[@tang1y]

Time war?

[@duncanshaw1256]

@@tang1y yes including the Time War

[@mathieuleader8601]

I wish the episodes Haunting to the Timeless Children was a sequel to the animated episode Real Time

[@dalekinthewater4708]

Does everyone know about the 'Clone Wars' TV Show? Yeah, how about a Cyber Wars TV Show.

[@user-tx9tg2lu7c]

is it just me or did anyone else notice that the Vogans use the seal of rassilon?

[@aceofconquest5745]

The Cyberwars do not include the Cybermen from the Ulternate Earth in when first introduced in New Who?

[@thedoctorsassistant1]

maybe a cool idea could be having the cybermasters vs daleks in the future at some point

[@hichaelmartline]

Haven't even watched it yet but it's going to slap I bet

[@CulturePhilter]

Great well researched video. 🙂

[@thedon2441]

Yes I did I remember that day it was a sad one 😢😢

[@thedon2441]

Id like to see you do the doctor timeline now like it wasn't hard enough before now it near impossible fantastic video tho , signed the Master

[@thedon2441]

Is there anything as a cyberdalek? If not why not that would be cool I don't know like something that was made out of the vold

[@sonofccn]

Okay I have a dumb question. I realize gold is a super soft, non-conductive metal which is highly lethal to the Cyberman's respiratory system, at least of the Nomad variants, and thus the Glittergun is basically blasting them with their own version of kryptonite. And I certainly understand why the Human Empire would want to start equipping their forces with such a weapon. But I don't see how it, or the Vogons, could have titled the fortunes of war. Especially if the Cyber-Empire could field warships that even centuries after the war are a magical box of secrets to the Human Empire. Either the Human Empire had the technology and/or number of warships to defeat the Cyber Navies, in which case the glittergun should be mostly an academic footnote, or they don't and the Cybermen should be able to sweep humanities starships away and pulverize human worlds at their leisure from orbit without ever risking a Cyberman life on the ground.

[@Therealprinceofcobh]

This is my head canon, in the early years there was one race of cybermen these where the mondasian crewmen, following the great schism of the early cybermen this began the first divergence, the Cybermondans and the Cybermondasians the Cybermondasians remained on Mondas and focused on returning mondas to the SOL system. The Cybermondans believed in the conquest and expansion of the cyber race and for all races to join the perfection of the machine, these early cybermen began their conquest of the Aelos Sector, Conquering the Planets Kerlos, Telos and Anelos, the inhabitants of these worlds put up a fierce resistance and it was discovered that the primitive mondasians suits of the Cybermondans was no longer effective, after conquering telos and establishing the master hibernation vault their they focused on the other planets in the sector, these New CyberTelosians where much more advanced than their primitive counterparts on mondas, adopting full cybernetic systems, these Cybermen began their quest to conquer the galaxy and began to spread across the universe, eventually the remnants of these Cybermen where sealed in their tomb by a pesky black short man with a two companions he called himself the doctor, at the same time the cybertelosians suffered yet another schism, this faction became known as the Cyberfaction, they sought to establish a new cyber breeding colony on earth, their first attempt with the wheel in space failed after the same meddling man called the doctor vanquished them, Around this time they had found the ability to time travel due to the capture of a time vessel from the Archivist Mendon, who was subsequently Converted to cyberkind, these new Cyberfaction Cybermen were designed for combat operations and where first used to try and invade Earth in the early 20th century, however due to the efforts of the Doctor and his meddling this invasion failed, however 30 million late Cyberfaction soldiers remained in cryogenic stasis aboard their ships, these Cybermen would become the first generation of Cyber Nomads, these cybernomads realising that their numbers where dwindling, needed to boost their numbers, the human colony on agora was the perfect breeding colony, with the fittest 500 humans taken for conversion every year. This along with the cyber nomads other breeding colony’s allowed for a ready supply of human materials for conversion for the war in Orion, the Cybermen where on the verge of extinction as they where down to the last fleet humanity had prevailed over the metal monsters due to the invention of the glitter gun. Which fired gold plasma at the Cybermen destroying their respiratory systems and killing them. Around the 23rd century the Cyber Nomads drifted into the Aelos sector their numbers depleted, when they came across a cyber distress signal from a Rocky planet called telos, upon investigation by the remaining nomads they found the remains of the cybertelosians master hibernation vault and began working with the damaged cybertelosians to merge their technology to form a new cyber race the cyberneomorphs, who realised total suppression of emotions was an illogical idea as to defeat one’s enemy you must first understand one’s enemy. These Cybermen also stole a time ship in the late 2550s from Stratton and Bates two time travelling mercenaries who were contacted by the Kryons for assistance, upon landing their ship on telos both men where captured and converted, except the conversion process failed due to a lack of resources on the neomorphs part, a cohort travelled back to 1985 earth to retrieve a time travelling ship from the torch wood institute to prevent the destruction of their beloved home planet mondas. However a sandy haired iteration of the man they called the doctor destroyed the master hibernation vault on telos along with the master controller, the remains neomorphs became the isomorphs and attempted to destroy the doctor by capturing the silver nemesis and using it to convert earth into a new cyber race. This failed and the remaining Isomorphs drifted through space, on an alternate earth a Mad scientist named John Lumic had created a new race of Cybermen. These Cybermen attempted to invade Earth in 2006 only to be defeated. They where sucked into the void with some landing on 1850s earth and the remainder landing on krelos, these cybermen reawakened the sleeping neomorphs and combined their technology to form the cyber legion, who had the intellect of the neomorphs and the ferocity of the Cybusmen. In the 29th century the 2nd Cyberwars began and ended with the near collapse of the cyberium only a semi converted cyberform named Ashad restored the cyberium to full strength only to be destroyed and cloned by another time lord named the master. After this the remaining Cybermen fled to a planet and where upgraded to overcome any weakness thrown at them these remaining Cybermen known as the cyberiad, are the most potent Cybermen ever, with only one being needed to convert an entire planet. These are the cyber chronicles and you will be upgraded

[@jeckjeck3119]

Top quality content!

[@bjnz]

Legends

[@thedon2441]

R.i.p that we didn't get to see a Cyberman in the Sarah Jane Adventures that's would have been cool

[@dmaxwell910901]

I'm not sure if it'd be possible to do Cybermen justice properly in a kids show like that.

[@forgonenapster8888]

@@dmaxwell910901 disagree. A lone cyberman without his weapons would have made a fantastic story

[@dmaxwell910901]

@@forgonenapster8888 That would be a great story, but to do them justice requires darker concepts than SJA could really do.

[@mrincognitoanonymous4226]

Who disliked this? There’s only one dislike why? Great video though thanks I’ve always liked doctor who and want to know more about it.

[@Bob-jd4nr]

must have been the doctors😂

[@Sean_Last1995]

we need more classic Cybermen used in Nu Doctor Who like the Earthshock design.

[@tommogaz]

SAY CYBER ONE MORE TIME, I DARE YOU

[@thearmchairjournalist566]

Every time I hear you say Orion I have a little giggle 😂 Is that the way it’s pronounced in the Dr Who universe? In Australia we pronounce it O-Rye-On 😂

[@greg61377]

I always wonder who more powerful the daleks or the new versions of the cybermen. the ones who adapt and use all organics and tech.

[@EternalEmperorofZakuul]

Daleks will always be victorious Unless it's supremacy of the cybermen where the Cyberiad lead the Cybermen to victory, even wiping out the Daleks

[@HollowBoy04]

cab you do an updated one with the cyber reaper

[@trentmorrison6074]

I always found it disturbing when i first saw the cybermen from dr who. The whole forced to get surgury to become a robot. It even haunt me when i was 12. Fucking with my head when i first saw those episodes.

[@aussiebuster4988]

Out of both cybermsn story, you left out the 6th Doctor story of Real Time. I wonder wher in the history of the cybermen it fits in.

[@robertpierce6436]

Sometimes when you say ‘battle’ it sounds like you are saying ’butthole.’

[@nuttheses9589]

chibnall really watched your videos

[@thedon2441]

So what if turns out the doctor is human like the time lord was on the other end of the Portal, whoud make a lot of sense tbf

[@lucasadam65]

Great video

[@lordferbus2970]

Hold on Cybermen had Star Destroyers?

[@tscarb]

How does this connect with the age of steel in the alternate dimension

[@petermccannell7565]

Those weren't mondasians they were humans, so it's entirely possible that they(being the mondasian cybermen) existed in the alternate dimension as well but it's not really explored.

[@magtegi2]

so apparently the cyber are more effective than the daleks

[@tenshiigarashi4063]

Cybermen can be beaten by humans. Daleks however... control large parts of the universe. The only reason they disappeared from the universe was because they went to fight against the Time Lords. Speaking of Time Lords, the Daleks matched them blow by blow and maintained a stalemate across all eternity waging temporal warfare (time rewritten again and again by both sides) and broke the stalemate when the Time Lords exhausted their resources ( Day of the Doctor was the Daleks coming in for the kill). Even after being decimated by the Doctors the Daleks returned to the universe from the Time War and re-established their empire and rule large parts of the universe with their "New Paradigm". Cybermen can't fight Time Lords. The Time Lords are one of fiction's most powerful species. If you can stalemate Time Lords and their crazy time manipulation tech you are PRETTY high tier. Daleks only lose one day of the week. That day is when they encounter the Doctor.

[@dmaxwell910901]

Lol you're basing that on a war between Cybermen and humans? The Daleks fought and nearly defeated Time Lords. 🤦‍♂️

[@neilingleson2626]

I enjoy these videos but God there's so many ads

[@igncom1]

Glitter guns.... whut? But why not just cover up their air vents!? Or stay on their ships! How did they fail....

[@o80y1]

I wonder if Cybermen like the Dutch? Lol

[@thepolticalone961]

Cyber mandem

[@user-zy7ug4sl6z]

953

[@lucasadam65]

So no review coming ever

[@greg61377]

I hate that they destoried gallafrey again. such unexplored stories wasted. got everyone so amped with the retrun only to just throw it in the garbage few years later.

[@stephencampbell9384]

You should really try watching Doctor Who. Then you could pronounce Orion and Vega and Cyberiad.

[@Exsecrabilis]

-03/03/2023 @ 2037- 🤔🤨😁

[@hardkermit69]

Hi mate first lol

[@locomotionlotion779]

Lots of mispronunciation...

[@CameronMcCracken_Art]

Listening to you mispronounce multiple words (one word you even managed to mispronounce in two different ways) made this a hard watch.

[@lucasadam65]

What where some off the bad comments cancel the BBC

[@casparthomas4775]

You’ve rebranded I don’t like it