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[@bbsj86]

The voice actor for Sutekh is Gabriel Woolf, the original voice actor, who is 91 AND voiced the Beast in Impossible Planet/Satan Pit!!!

[@JeshuaSquirrel]

I wonder if there is a connection with that Beast.

[@bbsj86]

@JeshuaSquirrel I Believe they said at the time of those episodes it was meant as a fun reference for fans and they just really liked his voice for the role of this demonic, godly force but they may do more with it

[@Jimmy_Jones]

​@JeshuaSquirrel Ruby's mum literally said "beast" when looking at the shifting fog.

[@LightLMN]

I rewatched the Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit after this episode myself, and it was an experience. The first line of dialogue alone already implies things in a new context.

[@colinmcdonough4034]

​@JeshuaSquirrel in "Pyramids of Mars" it's stated that Satan is one of the aliases of Sutekh.

[@WebMonkey741]

I also liked how the CCTV was 66 meters away.... or 73 yards. 😮

[@KatAlysha]

REALIZED THIS AFTER WATCHING IT AND I AM SO FERAL FOR WHATEVER THAT COULD MEAN

[@lichcoin6144]

Holy shit 😮

[@christianwise637]

@@KatAlysha I don't know if it will mean anything going forward, but I reckon it serves to recontextualise the entity in "73 Yards" as an embodiment of Ruby's worst fear - abandonment - with the distance between her and the woman ultimately being the closest she can get to her biological mother

[@PaulaDeming]

ahhhhhhhh

[@brentnowack840]

OMFG… ‼️‼️‼️

[@HomoSolari]

They name dropped the Trickster from the Sarah Jane Adventures and the Mara from Classic Who as one of the gods, which was really cool.

[@alexsimpkin5620]

And possibly the Three Gods of Ragnarok, with the Three Fold God.

[@mpg272727]

Imagine being the god of chaos and traps and you keep getting beaten by school kids, a middle aged journalist and her robot dog

[@hypnobedhead]

The Trickster was so cool!

[@hypnobedhead]

Kate’s becoming my favorite Doctor Who character. She also might be beating Sarah Jane’s record of most Doctors met. Wait? Who’s met the most Doctors on the show (classic, NuWho, DisneyWho)?

[@LesCaine-bg6ii]

Would that not be Kate's father, the Brigadier?

[@adamwhite6530]

Credit to the creative team, they gave Sutekh/Gabriel the powerful return he demands, while offering Mel/Bonnie a character with far more impact than much of her original run with the show.... so happy for both actors in this episode.

[@TheMoonRover]

One of the better outings for Kate/Jemma as well.

[@SunlessNick]

Yeah, Mel has really leveled up.

[@robalexander8065]

The Mel we saw in 86/87 would have been little use and just screamed at everything. Her giving the Doctor some tough love was a real turnaround moment for the character. Clearly living with Glitz has changed her!

[@d.r.jarrell7239]

@@robalexander8065 Well, she did give old Six-ie a run for his money with the carrot juice and exercise bike.

[@alexsimpkin5620]

Kneel before the might of Sutekh. Also it's great to hear the return of Gabriel Woolf's voice.

[@adamcarlson2192]

He was great as the voice of the Beast as well!

[@tenmark7055]

If its OK, Ill remain seated... as was Sutekh for most of that series.

[@ZuGineeris]

Kneel before the might of Gabriel Woolf's voice. I thought he passed away in back in 2017 or something, and that they just used samples from Pyramids of Mars for this episode, but I was wrong. The dude is currently 91 years old. Awesome

[@Johno3998]

"This is true plaything of Sutekh, his name's Neil"

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

@@Johno3998 That's my fave DVD extra!

[@jacobfuentes4916]

RTD has been planning this twist (no pun intended) since the very beginning of the 60th specials. Mel asks Donna if she knows Triad programming when they visit UNIT in the Giggle, which I thought was just a weird computer term. Until I saw it mentioned in this episode...

[@modboyhenry1]

Also the groaning noise the Tardis has been making has been happening since wild blue yonder.

[@DerekHartley]

He has his issues, but my God can RTD do arcs.

[@scottboswell6406]

THIS has been the payoff for the 60th Anniversary!! Makes me feel better about everything!

[@SamThe42nd]

Unit: Well obviously S Triad is Tardis! Duh! Also Unit: Hires someone called H. Arbinger. 🤣

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Literally laughed out loud with that reveal. D'oh!

[@dexter471]

Doctor: "What's their name?" Kate: "Hugh. You met him" Doctor: "Yeah, I know, but what's his full name?" Kate: "Hugh. Hugh Jass!" [Dramatic orchestral swell]

[@Jamienomore]

Sutekh was in a Classic Doctor Who story called, 'The Pyramids of Mars', when Tom Baker was the Doctor. Sutekh said, "I am known and feared on a thousand worlds. I destroyed my home planet, Phaester Osiris, and crossed the galaxy, leaving havoc in my wake. Until my brother Horus and 740 other Osirians confronted me on Earth. I was defeated and trapped in a tomb beneath a pyramid; alive, paralysed, held in a force field controlled from Mars."

[@paulleighton9568]

I have been thinking about getting Brit Box just to watch the classic series of Doctor Who. Tom Baker was my favorite but I never made that connection watching this episode its been that long since I have watched the classic series...

[@RobertHMayfire]

​@paulleighton9568 it's worth it. I watch Classic Who on Brit Box all the time. You can also watch Are You Being Served? and Blake 7. I also recommend Keeping Up Appearances which the husband is in the Titanic Christmas episode of Doctor Who

[@GedUK]

@@paulleighton9568 the next Tales of the TARDIS is Pyramids.

[@The-Cosmic-Hobo]

Ahh... He didn't say that in Pyramids... though that's certainly accurate to who Sutekh is. Was that from an audio?

[@Jamienomore]

@@The-Cosmic-Hobo No. It was from History Lessons at School.

[@Nine1215]

"I lost my family to the most terrible things." Mel never had a proper introduction. We met her after she had already met the Doctor.

[@WebMonkey741]

Possibly a Big Finish story? I don't know if they have explored that aspect of Mel's life. 🤔

[@tenmark7055]

I remember Mel not being well regarded as a companion at the time. Mostly her character was written around her ability to scream... which was epic, but she was otherwise short changed the stories of that era.

[@UKJesterVids]

@@tenmark7055 She's definitely better written this time round

[@alexsimpkin5620]

@@WebMonkey741 I've listened to some Big Finish stories with Melanie Bush. They do deep into her life, a really good story is the Wrong Doctor. It shows the Doctor's first meeting with Mel.

[@Nine1215]

@@WebMonkey741 Not yet....

[@sharez66]

If you can, I recommend trying to watch Pyramids of Mars before the next episode. It's only four 25 minute episodes and is regarding as one of the great stories.

[@iankirk3537]

There is an Official BBC KZbin 12 minute abbreviated Pyramids of Mars but reviewing the full episodes would be better. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3mzfYVoeNGJiqc

[@joer3720]

It’s really nothing special in my opinion. I was quite underwhelmed by the Sutekh reveal.

[@idrishall6126]

ESSENTIAL TO WATCH BEFORE FINALE

[@mmattson8947]

I found the first half of the fourth episode boring. But that shows how good the other 3.5 episodes are in this story, that this is still my favorite classic DW story.

[@jamesfield1674]

That ending the Harbinger's speech was so epic!!!!

[@celticson]

There was so much just in this episode that I found refreshing: The Doctor being more open about his past, companions not being jealous of each other, the Doctor being proactive and asking for help.

[@Philmaster07]

RTD was so hinting throughout the season.... in pyramids of mars where sutekh originated from the doctor showed sarah jane a destroyed earth like the doctor did now in episode 2. the sound the tardis makes was also made when sutekh materialised in the tardis in pyramid of mars. in every episodes there were pyramids hidden and and and :D Apart from that. Sutekh is considered as one of the most powerful DW villains of all time. He could easily have killed the doctor in pyramids of mars. he brought him to his knees easily.

[@ianstopher9111]

🎶My dog is alive, he's not dead🎶🎵

[@charlesashe-nn2sf]

Sutekh is my favorite Doctor Who villain of all time. I watched the Pyramids of Mars serial when I was 8 years old, and I waited throughout all of Classic Who and every single season of nuWho for them to bring THIS guy back. 43 years I've waited for Sutkeh's return!!!!! He's not the One Who Waits. I am! :O

[@sectorzisnumbuhone]

SAME

[@josefschiltz2192]

Now, the question has to be, should Kat and Paula watch The Pyramids Of Mars before this season's finale? . . . . It'd be a chance to see Tom Baker and Elisabeth Sladen in a well regarded classic adventure and give some context to this two parter. Whaddaya think?

[@idrishall6126]

ESSENTIAL

[@alacy52]

Without question yes

[@MalcolmWolf]

Unfortunately I am not sure they have time for that. I believe the plan is to watch afterwards

[@josefschiltz2192]

@@MalcolmWolf Ah. I had wondered if Kat and Paula might do that.

[@ClintBandito]

"Your evil is my good. I am Sutekh the destroyer. Where I tread I leave nothing but dust and darkness. I find that good."

[@TheWyldKarde]

I can't help but chuckle that Unit were all over S. Triad as an obvious anagram, but somehow missed H. Arbinger. Unit HR really dropped the ball on that one.

[@SunlessNick]

Arbinger is a real surname.

[@RopeDrink]

Neither UNIT, nor even the Doctor, has had to deal with Harbingers until this era. We are introduced to that concept in Devil's Chord, and even the Doctor doesn't witness that Harbinger moment. Only the Doctor seems to know it's a thing, and thus, UNIT has no reason to make the connection -- unlike TARDIS, seeing as they've been around one for most of the show's history. Something happening in a scene in a show doesn't mean everyone in the show suddenly has that knowledge. Now that gods and their harbingers will become a VERY known problem, you can bet money that UNIT will keep their eyes peeled for Harbingers from now on. They've simply had no reason to (until now).

[@peternolan5501]

There's also that Sutekh is a genuine mythological character, so even not knowing he's appeared in the show before in some form, he's still a big, scary Egyptian God of Death figure. Like if he'd announced himself as Hades or something. It wouldn't really matter if Hades had already featured in the show or not.

[@kevenpinder7025]

There is a breadcrumb that's likely to explode in all of this. When Maestro had Ruby up in the air and was drawing out her music, Ruby invoked the Shepherd's Bell Carole, that frightened Maestro. "HE couldn't have been there. The oldest one." Betcha The Oldest One was there and imbued Ruby with the power to defeat Suteck for just this situation. :》

[@alanafowler3024]

The Doctor is the Oncoming Storm that's one of the many names given to the Doctor.

[@uncannyparker4028]

What an UNEXPECTED throwback

[@kant12]

it was kinda expected but it was a good choice!

[@davidjrandall1979]

Absolutely loved this episode. All the red herrings and misdirection before the reveal left me gagged. This was RTD at his best, can't wait for next week.

[@RubyMadigan]

The fact they were able to use the same voice actor from the 70s for Sutekh I think is great for people who know the original story. And he did also voice The beast in The Satan Pit as well (Carla even said 'its the beast' when seeing the shape in the time window). I don't think Mrs Flood will be Susan (I'm half expecting The Rani but who knows). She'll be something significant but I'm thinking a more long term antagonist I do hope though that at the end of this story, the Doctor actually goes to visit Susan. We still have Carol Ann Ford and she's said she would come back I think so let's see

[@mjm3091]

It really would be sick if Carol could come back at the finale to save us all Deux Ex Machina style tbh.

[@ohauss]

As nifty as that would be, Lady May is 75 years old, I'm not sure if planning with her long-term is that feasible an idea.

[@RubyMadigan]

@@ohauss by long term I suppose I meant over the next season or two but I more meant the character than necessarily the actress. If she is the rani or another time lord then she can regenerate and probably will

[@joshuaverran9443]

She's definately not the Rani because she only cared about experiments Mrs Flood doesn't strike me as that character.

[@RubyMadigan]

@@joshuaverran9443 what if Ruby is one of her experiments and she's been observing her all these years? After all Ruby is somehow related to no-one, if she were an experiment it could make sense? We don't exactly know what kind of a person Mrs Flood is. We've only seen her for a few minutes But honestly Russell is so prone to teasing stuff like this (because he knows what people will guess) and just doing something else entirely

[@aaronbourque5494]

Pyramids of Mars was one of the first Doctor Who serials I watched on local PBS, on a rerun marathon, with my family. Back when TV was broadcast over the airwaves, and families rarely had more than one TV. I was really young, so I had no idea what was happening, but my father had always been a technophile, and we had a VCR, and he recorded the serial so we could rewatch it. It was one of the few Doctor Who serials I saw complete more than once until the internet came around and it was possible to track down episodes. This is like what I went through the first time I read the Legion of Superheroes The Great Darkness Saga. When some old, rarely revisited villain returns and you (in the audience) realizes just how much trouble the heroes are in. It'll probably be resolved next ep, but until then, the week can't be over soon enough.

[@Nine1215]

"He was the best of men." Great, 15 minutes in and I was already blubbering like an idiot.

[@AnubisX1]

"Your evil is my good! I'm Sutekh the Destroyer. Where I tread, I leave nothing but dust and darkness. I find that good!" "It is within my power to choose the manner of your death. I can, if I choose, keep you alive for centuries, wracked by the most excruciating pain." Sutekh is perhaps the best villain of classic who and only appeared once. I would recommend watching Pyramids of Mars its fantastic, one of the best. You seriously need to watch it. Sutekh is leagues above the doctor, the timelords, the master, Davros, the Daleks, the toy maker etc in what he can do. Also Gabriel Woolf who voices him and who voiced the Beast/devil in series 2. His voice is also just next level, also the fact he voiced this at 91 and sounds no different!

[@idrishall6126]

ESSENTIAL

[@fleur250]

Paula was pissed when it said "TO BE CONTINUED"😂

[@txsportsfreak02]

She was enraged! Kat was ah yes. This old song and dance.

[@ItsSirRazzy]

One detail I love about this episode is the Voice Actor for Sutekh is the exact same one that voiced him back in the Pyramids of Mars (Gabriel Woolf). He came back to play Sutekh at 91 years old which is some dedication. Side note: Its ironic that you brought up the Beast from The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit... Because Gabriel Woolf also voiced "The Beast" in that episode too, a nice throwback.

[@PaulaDeming]

that's pretty darn cool!

[@elvwood]

Also, the Doctor said the TARDIS had indigestion in that story too...

[@WayenerBee]

Did you notice that 15 tells Ruby that Time Lords regenerate sometimes to ‘just hide themselves away’ THEN Mrs. Flood tells Ruby and Rose that she doesn’t get out much because she normally ‘just hides herself away’!! Strong hints she’s a time traveler if not an outright Time Lord herself. What do you gals think? On a side note I’ve been going through a really difficult time in life for the last few years and your reaction videos are so wonderfully uplifting, happy and therapeutic. So thank you from this Whovian’s heart. ❤️‍🩹🥀

[@mariahjanes199]

Love that they brought back the 91 year old Gabriel Wolf to do the voice of Sueteck. He was the original voice in Classical Who... but funny that you mention this making you think of the Beast/Satan... as Gabriel Wolf also voiced that character as well! Which, they give a shout out to (Easter Egg) when Carla says in the memory chamber when the black and red cloud sprung up, 'I know what that is. It's the Beast!' (Not direct quote)🎉

[@IceMetalPunk]

Maybe it's not just an Easter egg... maybe they're going to confirm they're the same entity.

[@mariahjanes199]

@IceMetalPunk That thought has crossed my mind especially after watching Prisoner of Mars. He is also referred to as The Beast at the end... 🤔

[@peterdubois4983]

In School Reunion, Sarah Jane says she has met mummies. If she was still alive she could have helped Unit? Pyramids of Mars was a Classic. Sarah Jane at her best.

[@stephenmccann1482]

I remember watching The Pyramids of Mars on PBS during the 4th Doctors run. So cool to see a classic villain return.

[@gwinnellheald8592]

My favourite parts of this episode was 15 and Kate, their dynamic is great! The scene where they talk about susan was super sweet. Also mel telling him to pull himself together was great lmao, he has great support with the companions who know how to see him as he is

[@nigelthomas2089]

The Brigadier did actually meet (or see) Susan in "The Five Doctors".

[@williammcnirlan4820]

After telling those tales to young Kate.

[@chapmanturbo4082]

The Doctor had met all the mentioned gods. Pyramids of Mars was the first adventure where the Doctor shows the results of Sutekh winning, which mirrors the scorched earth scene with Maestro.

[@artechwebdesign]

I think Kat's response is really interesting because as a fan I can see your feeling of 'I should know who that is but I don't' Which in my opinion shows that unfortunately in this instance Russel was too busy trying to make a big moment for classic fans whilst not thinking hang on most of my audience is 'new who' fans who don't know who this is. At the end of the day Sutekh appeared once 49 years ago it's a super deep cut reference that a huge number of fans won't know. I only knew because I was following rumours so watched Pyramids of Marse last week. The moment was incredible but only because I had just watched it and was hoping that's who it was going to be.😊

[@KB_VFX]

You and sesskasays are battling for my fave reactors atm

[@Ocsttiac]

At least Sesskasays actually watched Pyramids of Mars.

[@One_Odd_Ood]

Also JustSoShayla

[@PaulaDeming]

@@Ocsttiac looks like we lose

[@cargo71]

@@PaulaDeming You need to start a club. At least, I´d love to see a collaboration between all of you! I´m so fan of you two and Shayla (and Blind Wave)

[@liamkc1998]

each year in the UK, a shop called John Lewis releases a Christmas commercial and honestly it’s like a try not cry moment every year with them.

[@thepartworkscomicsreader9488]

Gabriel Woolf returning to the role of Sutekh after almost 50 years having also provided the original voice in Pyramids of Mars. He also voiced the Beast in Planet of the Old/Satan Pit.

[@alexfletcher5192]

UK viewers get to relive Sutekh's first outing in the show (a terrifying 49 years ago) courtesy of a Tales of the Tardis special. So one assumes Tom will get a moment there. It may even be his last screen appearance if so. As someone pointed out, he and Gabriel Woolf are the only surviving cast members of the earlier story.

[@Sonikgav]

Sometimes RTD really thinks he's alot cleverer than he actually is. That H.Arbinger reveal felt like an intellectually insulting "bwahahaha, aren't I clever!" moment. Personally, if I had to guess, I think Mrs Flood could be Susan. The original few Doctors did 4th wall breaks on occasion, Hartnell being the first (and only one to acknowledge he was in a TV show) so chances that she's a Timelord at the very least is pretty high. I'm actually kinda convinced that Ruby is one of these Gods herself. Sutekh was at war with the Ancient Egyptian Gods, trying to overthrow the throne he was meant to protect and in mythology, Ra is usually represented by a Red Sun. A Ruby Sun(day) you might say?

[@mjm3091]

Can we talk about injustice of Cherry still not getting her tea since episode 1?

[@TheMorrochben]

gods mentioned in this episode that have appeared in classic episodes are Mara the god of Beasts from the 5th doctor era, the Trickster who is actually from the Sarah Jane adventures and one of his lackeys was the beetle from the 10th doctor episode 'Turn Left,' obviously Toymaker from 1st Doctor, and the trifold gods of Misery, Mischief, and Malice are most likely Rag, Nar, and Rog from the 7th Doctor story 'Greatest Show in the Universe' And noticeably missing is the god Fenric from the 7th story 'Curse of Fenric'

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

We need Fenric back! (But then 'Curse of Fenric' is my all-time fave Who serial)

[@mikenelson3632]

Sutekh s eyes glow green when he's using his mental powers so this means obviously Paula is a secret servant of Sutekh be careful Kat

[@KatAlysha]

Oh snap 👀👀

[@samc8534]

If you do end up doing the 'reacting as old ladies for an entire video' bit, may I suggest you call yourselves the Gallifrey Grannies?

[@SunlessNick]

Regarding that brief recap of Pyramids of Mars: the Eye of Horus was a large ruby.

[@Earthsinger100]

I'm 71 and have been a devoted fan since 2005. Some old biddies love Doctor Who 🧙😁❤️

[@davidjbrewer3313]

My partner isn't steeped in 'lore' so didn't know Sutekh as a classic villain, but also didn't immediately assume it was. Their assumption was that this was a new thing, bringing in a real Egyptian god, and that worked for them, so I think responses will vary from person to person.

[@williammcnirlan4820]

A couple of thoughts. With references to the Gods of Ragnarok and the Mara, RTD is grouping together a group of Classic era god level enemies. I wonder if Fenric is included. All of which may mean they will appear over the next few years. Yes, god level beings exist in classic Who. They were never connected before. However some manifestations might overlap with others. The Sutekh drop was pure fan service for us classic people who are old enough to remember. I was cheering while going "oh feck this is bad". In The Devil's Chord, when the Doctor showed Ruby the ruined future - this was a direct homage to Pyramids of Mars, and RTD has hit anew level of foreshadowing. I don't think Sutekh is the big bad. The shenanigans around Mrs Flood is to be explained. Then there is the Ruby's mum issue. If there is a major reveal, I expect someone more generally known and not something only the diehards know. RTD has always been keeping things open for all new viewers. This smacks of a type of gatekeeping that I don't believe RTD would do. Gabriel Woolf, the voice of Sutekh was also the voice of The Beast in The Impossible Planet. Probably why you are getting vibes of that. Also I wouldn't be shocked if we get an explicit connection. Or it could be left implicit.

[@seankennedy4548]

Great reaction and review. Sutekh is a villain from the classic show. The fourth doctor, played by Tom Baker, just barely defeated Sutekh, with the help of Sarah Jane. It took hundreds of Osiarans to trap Sutekh the first time. The doctor knew Sutekh was god-like. He showed Sarah Jane the future where Sutekh escaped. The entire universe was dead. The Doctor finally triumphed by trapping Sutekh in a time corridor for 7000 years. He was supposed to have aged the evil Osiran to death, but with all the universe rule changes in the last decade it's not surprising to have him return. As to who will die....if they go by the classic who method ... everyone except the doctor and his companions. Since they are dealing with "deities" now, to win....they will need make a sacrifice. It's my felling that Susan will return, but not sure how. Maybe to simply be that sacrifice.

[@bletheringfool]

There were a couple of Pyramids of Mars references in earlier episodes and even I didn't see this coming

[@tenmark7055]

I saw an article a couple of years ago that indicated that Sutekh & the Rani could not be used by the BBC due to the copyrights being in dispute. Doctor Who & other BBC character ownership belonged to the writer and if the estate was in doubt, the characters could bot be used again. Glad it was settled and now hoping for The Rani!

[@ABrecher]

@@tenmark7055 Sutekh is based on actual egyptian mythology though...can't copyright that

[@stressedtoimpress91]

They managed to make the TARDIS look menacing as fuck

[@KatAlysha]

Right?!?!?! Like, who gave them the right to do that so good 😂

[@stressedtoimpress91]

@KatAlysha legit! I actually felt unnerved the way it was framed and lit. I've never felt that way looking at the TARDIS before!

[@ianstopher9111]

Are you my Mummy? If only they have mummies and orphans next week, it would be a terrible pun.

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

Sutekh works if you just started watching this season. Sutekh works if you started watching with Nine. But if youre old, and you watched Pyramids of Mars when it aired... Oh my God, does Sutekh work.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

For some. Sadly, it didn't work for me. And I also watched 'Pyramids of Mars' (and love it) as a kid. :(

[@chris-hz2wd]

The doctors had fought Daleks, Cybermen, weeping Angels, vashta Narada, Ragnarok, The Silence, Sontarans and everything in between yet he was petrified of Sutekh Remember end of time when the doctor tells the master about the time war and the nightmare child and his army of never meanwhiles and neverwhere? Sutekh would have been more powerful then them, He is the God of Death who believes he is good

[@GedUK]

Kat wearing Egyptian style eye makeup is a wonderful co-incidence!

[@SunlessNick]

I think the Black Guardian would have fit this setup better than Sutekh - back in Pyramids of Mars, Sutekh appeared to be a regular flesh and blood alien (still nigh on all-powerful), whereas the Black Guardian was truly something metaphysical. But Sutekh had a perfect storm of writing and performance to make him an icon.

[@bobblebardsley]

That Sutekh reveal reminds me of when they introduced John Hurt ahead of the 50th Anniversary special, they really cranked up the reveal and then he turned around and although I know the actor, I was like, I don't really understand the significance of this or why I'm supposed to be THIS shocked by it. So I'm inclined to think that it's not about knowing the Pyramids of Mars etc, they were just trying to make it as megahype as possible and in the end you're left being told how to feel about it instead of actually feeling that way. Plus let's be honest, the character design of the CGI Sutekh looks like something from Scooby-Doo 2 Monsters Unleashed, if something that cartoonish popped out and told me it was the Destroyer of Worlds I would be like, have you seen yourself, Pupper?? I did really enjoy this episode overall though and the whole Time Window sequence is my favourite scene of the whole season, I almost feel like the Sutekh thing has overshadowed what is a really good pre-finale in its own right.

[@Cajungrills]

I do get your point about more buildup being better..... but let me tell you, as someone who DOES know classic Who, when SUE TECH flashed on screen you could have nearly seen a 50 year old man behind the sofa again!

[@PaulaDeming]

hehe I love that

[@shwenty1734]

11.30 He's always had emotions. Ten was famous for them.

[@christianwise637]

I think they meant to say that he wasn't bottling them up anymore and being more consistently open about his feelings

[@MalcolmWolf]

Ten was also famous for being reluctant to say "I love you" and held a lot of those feelings back.

[@leosarmiento4823]

As a fan, my earliest memory, the episode that hooked me into "Doctor Who" back in the 70's, was “Pyramids of Mars“ with Tom Baker's 4th Doctor. OMG!!! After nearly 50 years, to see the return of my first Whovian villain, Sutekh (and to have his original voice, Gabriel Woolf, reprise his role), had me screaming and left on a high.

[@willadeefriesland5107]

Alien/Old gods have been there since the First Doctor. The Animus, The Great Intelligence, The Nestene Consciousness, Sutekh, The Guardians, The Mara, The Gods of Rag Na Rok...

[@edwardhowarth6991]

As I’m sure many have already commented, lots of cool references for longtime Who fans in that monologue listing the gods alone - here’s an idea post-season finale: you could make a classic / new Who / spinoff viewing list for their stories (Sutekh, the Mara, the Trickster, the threefold deity that is probably referencing the Gods of Ragnarok)! As for them being gods vs aliens, I think there’s been plenty of (admittedly vague) references to them as beings operating outside the normal laws of physics / time / space, which probably makes them view themselves as gods. Sutekh in classic Who was originally the last survivor of an all powerful ancient race called the Osirians.

[@VonPatzy]

The way the screen is set behind Kat it took me WAY longer then it should to realize they were in the same room and not filming separately. 🤣

[@Stephen-Fox]

On the discussion you had at the end - I would note that RTD has never _permanently_ and physically) harmed a companion's family member. Including Rhys in Torchwood. I would be _surprised_ if Carla and Cherry weren't fine by the end of this storyline, even if they're placed in danger at some point within it. Traumatized? Maybe. Physically harmed? I'd be surprised. ...Unless Cherry not getting a cup of tea counts as physical harm because I am resigned to that being a running gag.

[@firefly24601]

If there's another candidates for The One Who Waits, it's Cherry Sunday. She's always waiting for a cup of tea!

[@MalcolmWolf]

@@firefly24601 lol perfect

[@ihateunicorns867]

It’s weird to see people who don’t know who Sutekh is watching the episode. It would be like Spyfall’s reveal without knowing who the Master is. As someone who grew up with classic Who (or Doctor Who as we called it back then), it left me screaming. It’s a shame it falls flat for people who haven’t seen earlier episodes. I suspected Sutekh would be the big bad because of the hints they’ve dropped throughout this series. Eg They lift a scene directly from _Pyramids of Mars_ in _The Devil’s Chord_ where the Doctor shows Ruby an alternative present day. The Doctor left him to spend an eternity trapped in a time tunnel, so it would make sense that he would be “the one who waits”. He’s also basically The Devil, which would make sense as to why the Toymaker would be scared of him. It would need to be a manipulation of time that he needed to escape - hence the groaning TARDIS. And of course, the cheesy Sue’s Tech (honestly, Russell! Smh)

[@mrbaldy1665]

The Tardis interior had a green glow to it for the begining of the New Who era. That might be why you associate the color with Who.

[@PaulaDeming]

that makes sense!

[@ethanmanson3129]

Great to see characters like the Toymaker and Sutekh return after 50+ years, one day would love to see returns for characters like the Rani, Meddling Monk, the Trickster, The Mara and the Black Guardian would be cool to see

[@davidmckie7128]

Sutekh is voiced by Gabriel Woolf (91 years old) who voiced Sutekh in The Pyramid of Mars.

[@Earthsinger100]

The scene in the Time Window was an actual hologram. The actors were seeing what we were seeing.

[@LightLMN]

How long has RTD setting this up? I suspect at least since Series 1. Clive was spot on when he told Rose that the Doctor's constant companion was death.

[@endymionsrage]

A special 'Tales of the TARDIS' exploring the 1975 #DoctorWho adventure PYRAMIDS OF MARS is coming to BBC iPlayer and BBC Four in the UK on Thursday 20th June

[@Look_Over_There]

The only thing I found a bit meh was the design for sutekh. The harbinger and zombie Susan looked so great and the effects had been outstanding. Sutekh just looks like a giant cgi rat imo, I went and looked up his original design and it was so much more creepy I wish they’d gone more hieroglyphic style jackals head other than that I LOVED the episode

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Yeah, I actually found the CGI design pretty ropey and actually much prefer the original design with his iconic mask.

[@steve8510]

My childhood Doctor's nemesis

[@MrStephenLodge]

God of Death not threatening enough without knowing about Sutekh?, we were also told by the Toymaker that the only one he feared to challenge was the one who waits! Its easy for me to say though being a big fan of the Tom Baker era and my first thought was the only foe that scared the fourth doctor was Sutekh the Destroyer.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

Also, what Meastro said while interrogating Ruby, "He could not have known, he wasn't there!" or something.

[@aaronmcmahon7462]

Sutekh is the last of the Osirans from the world Phaester Osiris. He became paranoid that some other life form would secede him as a supreme being, and decided to devote himself to death, dust, and darkness. In the Dr Who mythos, he is the influence for the Egyptian god Set, and he was entombed by 740 of his fellow Osirans in ancient Egypt, with a relay on Mars containing the key to his prison. He was stopped by the 4th Doctor in 1911, on the grounds where UNIT would have their HQ in the future. Sutekh has appeared in the extended universe, as has aspects and relics of the lost Osiran culture.

[@WebMonkey741]

The Pyramids episode is also notable for showing what happens if the Doctor doesn't defeat a villain and then the future is ruined as a result. Which RTD DID for the Beatles episode. Brilliant callback and foreshadowing!

[@billsbrothertv5701]

It's an anagram! But only if you remove most of the letters, and swap one of them out for another letter! But still totally an anagram!

[@Drekal684]

It's actually more like a portmanteau. If I were allowed by ROB to rewrite that line, it would've been "we were distracted by the anagram".

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Literally groaned with that scene. SMDH. 🤦

[@christianwise637]

I'm kind of curious to see how, or even if, this episode will hold up once the second part has aired. While I definitely enjoyed "The Legend of Ruby Sunday", it is very much a bunch of setup for the finale, primarily 45 minutes of wheel-spinning as RTD moves all the characters and plot elements into place, and with not much in the way of actual narrative substance. And I know a lot of people will write it off as "it's just a part one, of course we're not going to get a complete story", but previous finale part ones tends to have a decent amount of substance, thematic weight and character-based material. And to be frank, I don't think this episode really has a lot of stuff going on in those regards; it takes roughly 20 minutes for the story to even get started with the time window scene, and even then I don't feel like much really happens after that. I love that scene, but we don't really learn anything new about Ruby as a character (and honestly emphasises how little development she's actually had), and the narrative doesn't have much progression. But for all my complaints about the problems of the majority of the episode, those last few minutes - HOLY FRICK! Your reaction definitely highlights how little impact the climactic reveal may have on those unfamiliar with classic Who, but as someone who had seen "Pyramids of Mars" (on that note, you two should definitely check it out once you've seen the finale - it will be a great opportunity to see why Sutekh is a big deal; plus it's a God-tier classic Who story, with Tom Baker and Lis Sladen at their best), I was beside myself with excitement. The buildup to Sutekh's return, with Harriet's ominous speech hyping up the pantheon, Murray Gold's building soundtrack, and the general sense of terror, was just prime material. The performances of the cast are just phenomenal, particularly Ncuti Gatwa and Jemma Redgrave, who do a fantastic job at selling the "holy crap, we're so screwed" nature of the cliffhanger (honestly, as someone who's never been the biggest fan of Kate as a character, this episode gave her some truly phenomenal moments) here. And lame CGI jackal aside, Sutekh establishes himself as a formidable presence right off the bat, complete with Gabriel Woolf returning to provide his sinister dulcet tones for the first time since the classic 1975 story, and returning to the show after voicing the Beast in "The Satan Pit" back in 2006. For all his faults, you can't deny - RTD sure as hell knows how to set up a cliffhanger. How this episode holds up will largely depend on how "Empire of Death" sticks the landing, but for now I can say I had an absolute blast with this episode. There may not be a lot going on, but there's a few great scenes, a couple of good character beats, and a fantastic cliffhanger that sets up the next episode in stunning fashion. I'm anxiously excited for the finale, with plenty of questions swirling around my head: - Who is Ruby's mother and how does she tie into the plot with Sutekh? - How the hell are they going to beat Sutekh? - Hell, how did Sutekh survive his fate at the end of his last appearance? - And how did Sutekh manage to tether himself to the TARDIS in the firstplace? - Are we still going to see Susan in the finale? - In what sense is Mrs Flood related to all of this? - Is SHE Susan? - Where is Cherry Sunday? - Is she safe? - Is she alright?

[@GreyHulk2156]

There was a tiny bit of a "next time" clip on Unleashed, but it was very brief and was just essentially UNIT firing on the TARDIS/manifestation of Sutekh.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

Also, the double episode was intended for cinema showings in the UK and possibly elsewhere, I suspect they then get to see both so no need for a "next" segment.

[@Deathstroke-zm4vt]

with harriet arbinger in front of it . who then nips inside and pilots tardis back to ruby road :)

[@Paris.mcdonough]

KZbin channel whoculture ,she explains suetekh and the god pantheon brilliantly

[@ala5530]

His name has been Set. And Seth. And Sithifer. And his one true name for evermore is... Neil. Kneel before the might of Sutekh!

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

Best bunny ever!

[@shaunmale6566]

"And his one true name forever more is, Sutekh." Err yeah, they are screwed.

[@charlesashe-nn2sf]

The Doctor BARELY beat him the first time. BARELY.

[@shaunmale6566]

@@charlesashe-nn2sf exactly.

[@JoeThornhill]

The TARDIS matrix was green and 10's interior had a very green/coral look..

[@Nintexstation]

I’m totally on the same page. For me it kind of feels like we’ve jumped in at what should be season 3 or 4. I don’t think we’ve had the time to understand the threat, feel the stakes, or even emotionally connected to the characters enough. It also feels a bit weird for the first season of the ‘fresh start’ to bring in an arc that is only truly satisfying to those who have seen classic who?

[@Faction.Paradox]

I'm really interested to know if the ending works for people who aren't familiar with Sutekh. I got into Who as a kid in the 90's watching my dad's VHS's. Pyramids of Mars was one of the first Who stories I ever saw and watching scifi with him was one of the main ways we bonded despite being such different people. He passed recently after I cared for him for several years so hearing Sutekh's voice briefly took me back to childhood,so it really hit me hard.

[@wendyheatherwood]

It worked for me, just because of the worse than the Toy Maker, worse than Maestro, worse than Trickster, the God of Death. Like, yeah, I haven't seen Pyramids of Mars, but I think I've got a pretty good idea how bad things are about to get.

[@wordart_guian]

It worked for me, but i knew seth from egyptian mythology

[@PaulaDeming]

I'm really glad it worked so well for you! Not a super great reveal for me BUT there could be lots of different contextual reasons for that. I'm excited to see how I feel after watching the second part

[@knitcrochettiger361]

The 4th Doctor fought Sutekh in the Pyramids of Mars....Sutekh is the Egyptian God of Death, also known as Set....he is more powerful than the Celestial Toymaker and Maestro....The 5th Doctor fought the Mara, god of beasts, twice when he possessed Tegan....the 10th Doctor fought the Trixter, god of traps, in an episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures.....and there may be more gods in the pantheon

[@GhostPurple69]

i mean in egyptian mythology, set/seth/sutekh is a wicked brother to the mother goddess isis-the most powerful god, who appears human, who protects mortals and is associated with fate and resurrection and rainstorms and the nile flood...

[@craftyarts7431]

Today I learned the plastic aliens from the first episode of modern who were from classic who.

[@melodydiagames]

I had NO IDEA Sutekh was a Doctor Who character. But man, as a huge nerd about of Egyptian mythology. I was FREAKING OUT! I wish other mythologies were as widely popular as Christian ones. I'm sure you guys would be freaking out much more if anagram spelled out, like.... Lucifer or something! 😂

[@PaulaDeming]

haha this is such a good point!

[@ABrecher]

Yes!

[@TheMultiForge]

One of the names mentioned by the "Harbinger" avatar is the three fold deity....the three fold man is a name Dalek Caan referred to the Doctor back in Journeys End. The Doctor also has Three names now... Timeless Child, The Doctor, The Valeyard

[@LordLOC]

Actually, we've met more than two of the gods already. Besides the Toymaker and Maestro, we've also met the Trickster in the Sarah Jane Adventures spin off and the god Mara as well which is also from Classis Who. As a fan of Doctor Who since I can remember (at least 77 or so, where I was 5) seeing Sutekh come back AND being voiced by the original actor who played Sutekh back in Pyramids of Mars is awesome. Now, they've obviously retconned Sutekh into being this super mega god of gods, but he was easily the most powerful being the Doctor met in the entire franchise even back in the Tom Baker days etc. In the "extended" universe aka comics etc. Sutekh makes at least one appearance that I'm aware of - and some of the story beats have been used so far, including also stuff from a Trickster story that was never used (an abandoned baby left at a door step that turns out to be very important....sound familiar?). And Mrs. Flood has to be the Doctor's granddaughter Susan. She literally said she hides herself away, right after the Doctor explained regeneration to Ruby as saving themselves from death, or hiding away. I know they made her out to be sinister in that scene with storm coming, I just think that's a misdirection.

[@idrishall6126]

Love your view ,but sorry I. Believe FLOOD= RANI I also believe CHERRY SUNDAY will be huge reveals I also believe Donna's ROSE Carrues baby ruby vI a tine tunnel in 2004 OR cloaked woman Is KATE via time window The Doctors daughter may end up being ruby's mother, but I believe DR AND RANI will collaborate to best SUETEKH and restore the timelord race

[@johnpaullogan1365]

i think the backstory for sutekh will come in the beginning of the 2nd part. they will work in what people need to know. i think the most interesting thing is mrs. fludd. right after the doctor described regeneration as a means of hiding away she says she's always been hiding away. combined with the reaction to the tardis it seems she is a time lord who is not familiar with the doctor since hartnell. she didn't recognize what the tardis was at first but later did so she hasn't known of this one with the damaged chameleon circuits. at least not in person. she may know of his reputation. susan is out since she would have recognized the box right away. i'd even say classic who is out for the most part unless they introduce an earlier regeneration of a classic time lord.

[@leavealoner]

I'm still worried about the camera of the vhs tape, it was mentioned to be 66 meters away, as in almost 73 yards. So that video tape still reminds me of a different woman who we never saw the face of.

[@Jamestopboy]

The fact that you described Mrs Flood as “something creepy in the corner” is *hilarious!*

[@mjm3091]

One thing that stuck to me this episode - was it ever before mentioned that Susan is actually his granddaughter from the future? Because here they directly implied that Doctor did not sire his children yet (unless they use Jenny), that would become her parents.

[@PaulaDeming]

yeah, this was mentioned so off-handedly and I was like "um, whaaa?"

[@abstround838]

Tennant's confirmed on screen that The Doctor's had kids - looked it up to confirm and: Doctor's Daughter, he says "I've been a father before" to Donna; Fear Her: "I was a dad once" to Rose. Smith does tell Amy he doesn't have kids, but doesn't answer if he *ever* had kids. Gatwa does have a line to Ruby suggesting that "I did have" and "I will have" are a bit mixed together. That's all I'm seeing if leaving out anything not on-screen.

[@christianschoff2490]

Hi Gallifrey Gals! My theory is that Ruby Sunday is the daughter of Dorothy Bell from the comics. They have the same hair and eye color. Ruby's theme is Carol of the BELLS.

[@The-Cosmic-Hobo]

Hey gals. This is the most excited I have felt about Doctor Who since... I don't know when! Sutekh! Oh Gals! Please run don't walk and watch Pyramids of Mars before next week! It is one of Tom Baker's absolute best episodes ever, and the fact you've already started watching Classic Who will help as I know ya'll will appreciate the fact that it was made in 1975 as a kids show... and yet can also be utterly thrilling tv. I hope RTD does Sutekh right in the next ep...

[@theanyktos]

I was _so_ worried about Carla when they let her into Unit. Like, storytelling wise what is the point of having her there if not to have something happen to her? I mean, the scene where she's talking to Ruby's birth mom was great, but still. I was very relieved when she left. And then you reminded me that she's got Mrs. Flood waiting for her at home😢😅