New Balance Fresh Foam 1080 v14 vs v13 | Should I Upgrade?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

You can find Andrea and David's full written review of the 1080 v14 here: www.doctorsofrunning.com/2024/09/new-balance-fresh-foam-x-1080-v14.html

[@adraids2362]

cant wait for the comparison between 1080v14 and the more v5!

[@ammyers56]

Look at that well timed sunset 🌅

[@olli-perttikojo4424]

The sun is getting bigger

[@forrestgumpny6930]

KZbin times your comment lol it came up as I noticed it

[@cappox]

Used to hate the v13 now it's one of my favorite.

[@Feanaro5503]

Sockless running is nuts

[@blackpanda7612]

Some people like to live dangerously...right on the edge

[@jeffmerheb3182]

Thanks God they made it wider for the standard! We don't have wide options in my country

[@joshuabennett98]

I've been loving the v13. I almost have 300 miles on them. I'll probably get another pair of the v13s when they go on sale and then switch to v14s when the v13s are no longer in stock/on sale

[@movdqa]

I'm running in the More v3 and 1080v12 as I buy one to two years old to save money. I will be shopping the More v5, 1080v13, 1080v14 on Black Friday so I am looking at the reviews. For me, it often does come down to price.

[@Charles-kc2vt]

So hard to find 4E shoes at a good price 😭. I see people with D width shoes pick up premium shoes at great prices all the time.

[@movdqa]

@@Charles-kc2vt We're probably 4-5 percent of the market. It makes complete financial sense for most shoe companies to ignore us. I'm just happy that there are a few out there.

[@jeffhicks8428]

In NB running 2E and 4E are actually the same width. Only difference is the shape of the insole. The 4E is flatter for a flat foot. Dimensions are identical. The shoes themselves are identical. Only the insole is different. Now you know. And you can absolutely find deals. Just wait for stuff to go on sale but if the shoe is highly popular, don't expect it go on sale until it's old. But that should be common sense. the 1080v13 never went on sale because it sells like hot cakes. Not even for running, but for casual use because people are loving the mushy soft midsole. fyi i had to edit the comment because it was being filtered when I included the name of an online marketplace.

[@ElijahHerringtonXC]

That color way for the v14 is just so cool

[@mad8298]

It definitely helps. Stiffer, heavier and firmer, I'll pass. I'll be sure and buy another pair or two of the v.13 while they are still around.

[@redstang70]

That's what i did earlier, they are in sale and hard to find in the good colorways like my all white ones I nabbed

[@AndrewHarrison04]

Had the v13’s and just got wayyy to soft over time. Had to retire them early and now I just wear them as my daily walking shoes. Hope the 14’s are a bit firmer

[@laurentnavarro2521]

Yep did thé same 🙂

[@Wasabiz]

Used to struggle with the v13 for a first running shoe, but once I got more shoes into the rotation, I look forward to it for those easy, recovery runs.... also it's great for walking for commutes

[@brewlovinrunner]

Personally I’d take out a second mortgage and get the Glycerin Max.

[@julie99nl]

I hate them. like giant heavy bricks. All of the weight and stack of Adidas PX2 strung with none of the energy return.

[@NickJBower]

I would love to see a comparison between the 1080 v14 and the balos and or the hurricane 24. I have the 1080 v13 and balos and have loved both and am thinking about a next cushion mile eater between the V14 and the hurricane. Thanks!

[@PatrickStar_24]

That's what I'm looking at for my next training block. Hurricane 24 or Balos for recovery and maybe some ez daily

[@kiet19-n1g]

@@PatrickStar_24have 20 plus km in hurricane 24. Very very comfortable fit and ride with some energy return (or a little). But should take note of the weight I think. I felt heavy near the end of my run. So far it couldn’t push me to run longer compared to invincible 3 which is a fun ride despite the uncomfortable snug fit.

[@PatrickStar_24]

@@kiet19-n1g Hmmm I hear a lot of people loving the Invincible 3s. I just can't wear Nike though, no reason just don't want to wear it 😂

[@movdqa]

Early Black Friday is here and I picked up two pairs at Joe's New Balance Factory Outlet for $91 each. One for me and one for my wife. It turns out that she needs an XW (2E) too.

[@stevenglen5971]

Listened to your last podcast about bevels and man you had a shoe under embargo, with the clues I knew it was this shoe you guys were hunting, surprise they updated it so soon, I actually like the soft ride a lot for the more relaxed runs, but new version does look kinda good too

[@batyabeard1132]

I do all my tempos in the 1080s :) I think they are great and very versatile.

[@DoctorsofRunning]

@@batyabeard1132 that is impressive!!

[@00nutt]

First off thanks for the honest review. I have been running off and on for years. My favorite shoes were the Pearl Izumi but they quit making running shoes years back. So as all good runners I hit the ebay and bought every pair I could find. Fast forward to this year and I finally started running in my last pair. So now I needed to find a new trainer. tried the Nike Pegasus but caused me severe knee pain which was due to the narrow sole. Next tried the Nike zoom fly 5. Those were not good for me probably due to the carbon fiber plate but did like all the toe box room. With Nike off the list I began reading and happened across a review of the NB 880's. To the local shoe store I go. Tried the 880's, 1080 v14 and 1080 v13. 880 was way to firm and 1080 v14 was way too squishy. Salesgirl said I have another shoe for you to try and was the 1080 v13. Wow was this the perfect shoe for me. Yes still squishy but feels firmer. It was a perfect shoe in between the 880 and 1080 v14. I have put about 120 miles on them and my feet thank me every day. I know all runners and feet are different, but I hope my little review helps someone!

[@snowwalker9999]

Matt for just walking standing long hours which one is better?

[@tomasangelomena6866]

If Vongov6 and 1080v13 have the same upper, I can say that even if it starts snug and I really tighten the lace before the run, the upper will stretch significantly mid run so I need to relace it. Makes my feet float around the shoes too much and causes heel slippage. Glad that v14's more structured upper fixed this.

[@jnorthingtonjr]

To the point! Thanks Matt

[@jeffhicks8428]

I've tried both. Along with the v12 which is my favorite of the bunch. I think the upper is nicer on the v13 of all 3. I think the geometry, fit, feel and everything else was best on the v12. The v12 is close to a perfect shoe imo. Lower stack, lower drop, very plush cushioning, plush knit upper, highly flexible, wide roomy fit, stable. The issue I had with the v13 is that it was just too soft. Especially in the heel. It felt unstable and like negative drop when standing around. Aside from that, which is actually a pretty big issue, I thought it was a really nice comfortable shoe. The v14 has me puzzled. Is it even a 1080 anymore? It's taller, narrower and stiffer than ever. Did NB hire someone from Altra? Cuz that's their jam Sad to say, The 1080 is no longer a flexible shoe. it's a stiff, rocker shoe now. The midfoot is tighter than ever before. The room height wise is compromised vs the prior models. And the toe box is more pointy than ever. I can make it work, in 4E with the insole removed but only if. I'm not a fan of the scratchy new upper they're using on a lot of the new shoes. The More V5 has the same thing and it's not nice. Speaking of the MoreV5, this shoe was also very compromised height wise. They added 10 mm of stack and seems like they took away 10 mm from inside the shoe. Not nice. Sad too because the More V4 was a superb shoe and really worked for high volume people like myself. Anyway I do like the midsole on the v14 better than the 13 because it's not mushy and unstable anymore. It's still a very soft, plush, compliant, midsole and now has more resilience than ever imo. I still prefer the rebel to any of these.

[@pierrehahn64]

great can't wait to see the comparison between the 1080v15! 🔥

[@DoctorsofRunning]

lol

[@WatchThatKilcam15]

at this rate give it three months lol

[@jeffhicks8428]

@@WatchThatKilcam15 don't exaggerate. Three and half.

[@slkric1724]

I hated the v13. It was very unstable for me and I twisted my ankle. I'm looking forward to trying the v14 now after watching your review.

[@KeeperCode]

Might pick up the v14. I didn't like how soft the v13 was. As a really heavy guy it felt like my foot would go right through it. I like soft but not that soft. I enjoy some firmness with soft foams. Also didn't like the stability in the v13.

[@AgentGrand12]

I'm a heavier guy as well with flat feet. Did you get rid of your v13s and go with something else?

[@blackadar]

I do basically all my miles in superblast 2, considering these for something on just the more chill 'dont look at the watch' days

[@brianflath9037]

For my needs, I could save some dollars getting v13. I had v9 & really liked it.

[@filoIII]

I've had 2 pair of the MoreV3, and both seemed to lose their cush fairly early. Idk if I trust that foam.

[@akapantsusenpai181]

I don't like the ride of the v13. They feel like I'm running on memory foam, which gave me this numb feeling after a few miles. They're definitely soft, but too soft for me.

[@SUPaddict]

I found the v13 to be a bit shorter so I had to size up in length. Did you see a difference in length between the two?

[@devil8335]

I've got the v13 it fastastic help for my job, no stressed my Feet

[@jermainepostlethwaite7442]

Looks like NB More V3 ......still one of my favs ......

[@Pushing100Podcast]

v13 has been like running by telepathy. That said, I'll be able to recommend v14 from the fitting stool more often thanks to the increased stability.

[@paparock3roll]

It just expensive version of 880v14. I'll chose 880v14 all the way 🔥

[@kranerwheatens]

The v13s definitely held up better in the heals versus the v12s. Same with the soles...

[@jonestacara]

The v10 and v11 were so much better. Light, comfortable, sleek, more aesthetic with nice colors.

[@andro3859]

How would you compare the v14s to the balos, nimbus and the recently launched glycerin max? The v13s is one of my fave shoes, it does feel like it sinks sometimes but that isn't necessarily bad, these shoes work best slow and comfy

[@joanapasco1718]

Totally agree! Sometimes the 13 feel like you’re sinking. I’ve been enjoying the balos a lot, I wish the toe box was a little wider…

[@WoltaWasTaken]

I got a pair the other day - and I'm just so disappointed that New Balance continues to refuse to make an ankle collar that doesn't strike up against my - and by the looks of Reddit, many others' - ankles. Making ankles bleed and injuring them. It sure looks good with the striking lines on the ankle collar, but its extremely stiff build on the collar with stitching right on the top (why...), and the design's assumption that ankles are placed right up against your achilles tendon leaves some of us striking our ankles right into that collar's forward half. I've tried the 1080V11, 1080V12 and 1080V13 and NB *still* assumes ankles are something that sit a solid inch behind where they actually do. In the new ones, my ankles *still* strike into that collar. Would it seriously be *that* compromising to stability to just make a round ankle collar, New Balance? The 1080V13 was otherwise such an immaculate-feeling recovery shoe. Why even ride the line against people's ankles *that* close instead of giving literally just a couple millimeters of space?

[@WhiteRaito]

I will try to get v 14 at the end of the year. The item is not even released yet. V13 supersoft yet its kinda dangerous for a long use not just as in running. I personally prefer mesh over knit upper. I will try to use v13 sockless. If its great i will buy another v 13 lol

[@burton9281]

Matt, you mentioned you wouldn't jump to the v14 for your first choice of a daily trainer - i'm curious what shoe(s) those would be?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

@@burton9281 right now the GT 2000 13!

[@247Performance]

What is the difference in performance goal (recovery run, long run, daily run) and stability between 880 and 1080 v14?

[@Trustiieee]

Sooo what's your first choice of daily trainer??

[@imageplayer]

which do you think is better for plantar fasciitis and high arch feet?

[@chrishawyes1476]

Can the firmness of the respective midoles not be quantified according to the "shore scale".

[@teodorhansen2286]

1080 v13 is so good 🔥

[@Ginguredrunner]

Do you suggest avoiding stiff heel counters if someone deals with chronic tendinitis issues?

[@paullooper1090]

The 13 was too soft and flat... I hope the 14 gives some bounce and rebound...

[@AndresMugueza]

that sunset...

[@djsalassmc]

Legend

[@piee683]

Hi. Is the toe box gone back to the wider v12 size. I needed a wide size in the v13 so I’m wondering should I get the normal in v 14

[@CARLOSJARAMILLO-g1h]

I can’t believe that those 2 shoes are the same size.. The v14 looks 2 size bigger than the v13. Is that bulky and wide as the video shows ?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

@@CARLOSJARAMILLO-g1h they are indeed the same size!

[@hamoudalnasser]

In terms of the heel counter, is the top part of it still softer like in the v 13 or is the whole thing really firm? (firmness at the top of heel counters really bothers my feet). The NB Rebel v4 didn't have the heel flare, but it was still soft at the top.

[@hectororivera2]

Size wise are they the same?

[@elsasquatcho.]

Does v13 have heel slip? Or what do you mean by less firm?

[@haydenvough3778]

On a scale of 0 to 10, with 0 being barefoot on concrete and 10 being the softest shoe you’ve ever tried, how would you rate both of these shoes? I’m an ER nurse and I walk approx. 7 miles a day at work, sometimes more. I LOVED the 1080v13. I’ve gotten almost 6 months out of them. I switched to it from wearing Nike’s all the time and burning through them in 3-4 months. I was going to buy another pair of 1080v13’s but saw the v14’s are coming out soon… I know it wouldn’t be a mistake to get the v13’s again, but I think I like the look of the v14’s a little better. Both good looking shoes, but just a little better. So, hypothetically, if the v13 is a 10/10 soft shoe, I’d probably buy the v14 if it is a 9.5/10 or even a 9/10, especially given that the durability seems to be a little higher. But if the v14 is like 8/10, I probably wouldn’t spring for it. I’d sacrifice a little durability to just have the comfort of the v13 again. I also love Nike’s Flyknit and I thought the v13’s upper was pretty similar to that, which I liked. If the V14 upper is much stiffer, maybe I wouldn’t like it so much compared to the v13. I hope this questions makes sense, and I appreciate the feedback.

[@George-lz6ue]

I agree the V13 is one of the softest shoes I've run in the past decade. I love it for easy recovery runs and like an earlier comment, I will probably by a second pair on sale. I would go with the V13 for walking or easy running.

[@keizerneill8140]

Please review the mount to coast R1R.

[@Usfsu]

Do suggest any good running shoe for haglund deformity injury? Thank you

[@DemetriB0329]

Any good shoes for feet pain?

[@diktromdefilm]

Is it more wide in the forefoot as in.. suitable for any bunions?;)

[@redstang70]

Ah good to know they made it worse..firmer. now i feel much better about ordering a second pair ov v13s a few hours ago lol

[@malayneum]

what does "soft" means actually?

[@jeffhicks8428]

Like walking on mashed potatoes. Mush. The 1080v13 is the softest running shoe on the market, probably ever. This makes it unstable, dimensionally and otherwise. 6 mm drop? Not when it's loaded with you weight. I can feel it going negative drop just standing around. But it sells like hot cakes because mushy is a meme now. Not even for running but for casual use. Everyone heard how soft it was and said "yes please." It's silly...

[@companyman6208]

@@jeffhicks8428is it good for just walking and standing around 8 hours at work? Not interested in running. Thank you.

[@jeffhicks8428]

@@companyman6208 in my opinion? Nio. It's too soft. You just have to try yourself and see if it works for you. There are tons of NB shoes I like more than the 1080v13.

[@robbietamayo]

Looks like a downgrade visually compared to the v13

[@georgesoto5436]

Neither, I ran in the older version, and very quickly learned to hate it the more I ran (230 miles) in it. It’s a way too soft, like a freaking pillow in your feet, horrible feeling for me.

[@CC-hy1lx]

Neither get a nimbus 26 😂

[@jeffhicks8428]

Asics run short, narrow, shallow, tight. NB is the opposite. Lotta people who wear NB literally can't fit into a skinny shallow little Asics shoe for girly feet. The Nimbus is also stiff as a board with a noticeable rocker whereas 1080's are flexible. The nimnbus is as stiff as many plated shoes but it doesn't have a plate it's just a boat. Asics also tend to have a lot higher offset/drop than NB. Not everyone wants to run in skinny, narrow, stiff, high heels. But yes, the cushion in the nimbus is nice without being mushy too soft like the 1080v13. So in conclusion, the fit is drastically different, the geometry is drastically different, different ride, everything different, I would say that was a low information comparison. These are not similar shoes at all.

[@CC-hy1lx]

@@jeffhicks8428 I think it has to do with the ASICS design in Japan as Japanese (and Asian) people have a different stature and running gait, as well as foot structure. NB, being designed in the US I believe, complies more with a different foot structure which is used as basis for their running shoes I’ve tried a rebel v4 and the lateral side lacks foam making it a bit unstable whereas most asics daily trainers compensate with a heel flare and wider base

[@gutoslg3]

Nimbus 26 it’s much heavier. I had to sell mine.

[@jeffhicks8428]

@@CC-hy1lx Interesting. I love the rebel v4. I wear them every day as casual shoes. I even wore them in the house sometimes on the tile until I got some oofos. I will stock up when the new one comes out for sure. I can't wear the 1080v13. it's pure mush and very unstable for me. The v12 was great though. I already have too many shoes so I won't be getting the v14 any time soon.

[@CC-hy1lx]

@@jeffhicks8428 good for you, seems the NBs have turned to your favor 😁

[@AndresMugueza]

that sunset...