ASICS Metaspeed Sky+ vs. Edge+ | Which Should You Choose???

[@Nessunego]

I love the Metaspeed Edge+. The feeling when running is of a lighter and more reactive Nimbus 25, they just encourage you to run forward, with a progressive and fast toeoff. They are definitely my peace of cake. They are more stable than Nike Vaporfly and just a little less responsive.

[@Marsubleu]

Very helpful review, thank you. I am going for the Edge, for the reasons you mention. I am not a very fast runner, so it's tough to handle a bouncy shoe for long distances.

[@GeraGonzalez29]

Wow. Thank you so much. This is the best video I have found so far in explaining the differences. I like the comparison you made with the Alphafly to the sky plus.

[@Ben-yw8be]

As a Masters Runner, I think you’ve nailed it. I’ve yet to test the Sky+, but I enjoy the Edge+. I like that it is firmer than other supershoes. The ease of running in it is amazing. So easy to pick up the pace. It really shines when you’re at that last mile and you’re fatigued and push through the pain. I PRed on my last 10k on the Edge+. It kept my cadence up even though I was fatigued on the last mile with ease. I want to test the Sky+ on because I am currently on a marathon training block. I like that it has more cushioning on the forefoot to midfoot.

[@juanseaforth5111]

I was looking forward for this review. Thank you for clarifying the difference between the two shoe.

[@houmm08]

By far the best comparison of the two shoes I've seen. 👍👌

[@edwinduisburg8138]

Looking forward to the podcast! Also, I'm not sure you guys ever touched on this topic yet but I would like to see an episode/podcast about how our body responds when we run on hard or soft surfaces and what should we look for. What should be the preferred midsole stiffness and softness and maybe comparing shoes for that topic? Thanks!

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Edwin that is great! We will add this!

[@isidrotormogarcia4879]

Very great comparison. I have the impression for your words that Edge+ is similar to Vapofly or Sky v1. Fantastic work😉

[@cameronthaijohnson]

I've found them surprisingly firm and not adequately rockered for how incredibly stiff they are. Not sure if they break in, but the FF Turbo feels firmer in hand than v1s and those shoes didn't really seem to break in much for me. I do prefer the geometry and roll of the Edge+ now that it has the same sort of stack, but it still feels incredibly stiff and a bit slappy still. I also don't feel the foam compressing while running.

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Super late response here. Cameron, definitely agree with you initially. The Turbo does need to break in, but it certainly isn’t soft. On the firmer end for these shoes, but with time the foam breaks in. Definitely not as bouncy as the Sky v1

[@capeflatterytrail]

Interesting review--I think you may be on to something with your knee/posterior chain theory. Even though I'm a 40+ runner, I found the original Sky much better than the Edge. In fact, the Edge was one of the only shoes that gave me any kind of knee pain, though it was minor. I'm thinking that may because I was and still and a sprinter, have a forefoot (never heel) strike, and train posterior chain with kettlebells and other strengthening, mobility, and activation drills learned from an Exos mentorship.

[@kentm7731]

The Sky v1 works very well for me. With that in mind, given the geometries of both, which one is closest to v1? I ask because the Edge seems to now be closest to v1 in terms of geometry but the changes in Sky+ seem to enhance the feel of v1 (bounce and reliance on calf strength), from your take.

[@isidrotormogarcia4879]

+1.

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Kent, your impressions are spot on. I would agree that the Edge plus feels like the similar bouncy ride with a higher heel drop and better roll than the sky v1. The Sky + is really bouncy and low drop, more similar to an Alphafly with the lower drop and additional forefoot cushioning. -Matt

[@dan-zo4eb]

@@DoctorsofRunning Were the previous versions of both shoes sold specifically for cadence or stride runners? The shoes being cadence/stride specific - Is this a new shoe "science" or just a marketing tool as I've not heard of shoes being sold/promoted this way before ?

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Thanks for watching! What videos would you like to see next?

[@shanegill5091]

Hi. Thanks for video. Which of the two new shoes is faster for hammering intervals? I'll be making my decision based on your response. 😂😉

[@carlosangalang]

Asics Novablast 3, Saucony Endorphin Speed 3

[@marceloago9862]

Metaspeed + line comparing to alphafly and vaporfly

[@rundmccyprus8523]

Takumi Sen 8 vs Pro3

[@rundmccyprus8523]

Adios Pro2 vs Edge+

[@mitchyruns7818]

Hey Matt, thanks for this! Do you think it depends on the race distance. I land mid foot and slightly nearer to the heel in my other foot later in marathons, on shorter races I’d naturally be up on my toes more but at say marathon and half marathon pace, I’d be in that middle ground and landing further back, I have a long stride and lower cadence, so in theory, I’m aimed at the Sky plus, but when I’m landing closer to the heel in later stages of the race, would the edge plus kind of cover both areas?

[@davidedelstein2386]

Very interesting. Any thoughts for an Ironman triathlete? Just did a half Ironman in the MS Sky last weekend. Was very happy with it, but also thinking about how our run form gets a little wonky by the end of the marathon. Thinking the extra bit of stability in the Sky+ might be the right way to go. Always saying how my shoe choice for a straight marathon would be different than my shoe choice for an Ironman marathon…

[@georgeflatau2053]

What I have yet to figure out is which shoe to consider if both cadence and stride length increase when speed does. What are your thoughts?

[@marceloago9862]

Excellent review! I was waiting for that! One question: considering I am enjoying Glideride 3 a lot due the rocker and the support it provides do you think edge plus would be the one recommended?

[@rundmccyprus8523]

For a year Adidas Adios Pro2 is my favorite Marathon running shoe. What do you think 🤔 Which one Edge+ or Sky+ is close to running sensation of Pro2?

[@hamoudalnasser]

What happens if you increase cadence and stride length when you speed up? My average cadence is around 175-180. Tempo pace more like 190, fastest efforts 195-200. Side length on average around 0.96m, uptempo 1.20m, fastest paces 1.35m. Doesn't;t the whole stride/cadence thing also depend on mid-forefoot striking vs. Mid-heel striking? I tend to be a midfoot towards forefoot striking as I pick up pace, but I have had some achilles issues, so who knows? Isn't it ideal to pick up both cadence and stride length as you pick up the pace?

[@GSUnit21]

Awesome review. I literally use the new balance rebel V2 for everything! I wanna try one of these models out but having a hard time trying to figure it out which one to order. How would you compare the new edge2 to the old sky1 because they look exactly the same?? I like you am more of a cadence runner but wouldn’t mind trying either model! Of course there’s no way to try any of these models on in person so I wanna order the correct pair! I do feel like the v1 sky and the new edge 2 would probably be the best for me. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!!

[@craigleewhite6317]

Sir. Craig the incorporating running into Calisthenics guy ready to take on Monkey Pox here:) Please may I take a moment of your time to see if it's quite normal for the souls grip to fall off the rear of shoe after some light use? Is guarantee something reliable on these brilliant shoe's?

[@the_real_cansin]

Unfortunately the magic speed 2 is the only shoe that I completely regret to bought it. It is so stiff, has a very firm midsole, not springy and no energy return. I can't find any reasonable use case for the shoe... The only good thing about the shoe is the look is similar to metaspeed series.

[@mlcy85]

just wondering about the Edge+, if the key benefit is the superior rolling, doesn't that partially negate the benefits of a carbon plate to begin with?

[@daleyvb]

I have no idea wich one to get 🥲 ive been running for a year now an i ran my first race past sunday (half marathon). Now im looking to get either one of these. Can someone help me choose?? I have an average cadanceof 161 and stride lenght of 1,10m and when i speed up cadance goes to 180 and stride goas to 1,55m. Thanks in advance

[@rob8939]

Having just read your excellent online review of the EvoRide 3 and in particular the Toe Spring 101 I was wondering how the Sky and Edge + compare? Do they both have similar aggressive toe springs? Would either work for someone with toe mobility issues that needs a forefoot rocker but not the aggressive toe spring? I was hoping the Edge + might be an option…Thanks for all the great content coming out lately!

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Rob, the Edge + has a less aggressive toe spring than that of the Sky+, so I would go with that one if I were you! -Matt

[@rob8939]

@@DoctorsofRunning Excellent thanks Matt!

[@richardmiddleton7770]

I really don't understand why you're not supposed to do easy or long runs in super shoes?! Only thing that annoys me about these shoes is how loud they are, even fore foot but especially mid!

[@ethansmith1046]

So what would you recommend for 5km distance at a fast pace sky or edge or vaporfly?

[@ramblingrunner2172]

Great review! Is there much of a difference between the Edge + and the original Sky? There seems to be a lot of similarities.

[@TAETO1585]

I love the original sky, I don't like the new sky. Just bought a pair of the edge because looking at everything I made the same determination

[@carlosangalang]

I just returned my unused 2nd pair of the Asics Metaspeed sky (v1) and am waiting to place an order for the Edge+. As much as I've enjoyed the Sky, I think the lower drop has affected my Achilles and calf as I've tried to push my training workouts and race paces. I haven't experienced the same calf and Achilles irritation in a recent pair of Vaporfly next% 2, tho the Nike feel less stable. I think my mechanics call for more smooth rolling rather than hard, clawing push-offs (then calf cramps ensue)

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Carlo, I think the Edge + is going to be exactly what you are looking for. I had a similar experience -Matt

[@macoyupadoodle]

I have the sky 1 and i think this time i want to try the edge + this time around (being a cadence runner after using the Asics UK site) . I wanted to ask how much of a difference is the sky 1 to the edge + (different or similar )

[@chuajiaming5095]

Any updates on which one u prefer ?

[@macoyupadoodle]

@@chuajiaming5095 Sorry i missed my chance and the edge + ran out of stock in my size as it was a limited run over here (i guess because of the price ) so i ended up with the Endorphine pro 3 . They are both good shoes (more versatile for the endo 3 but faster in the sky 1) , also i like the upper in the sky better as i can feel it more and is balanced than the light endo 3 (endo 3 upper is soo light that it makes the midsole feel clunky like your wearing all midsole , while the sky being more substantial makes it feel balanced that its not all midsole (if that makes sense) . Sorry i could not help with the Edge + . But another reason i wanted it is the forefoot roll geometry as i tend not to use the full rocker of the sky because it curls more towards the toe area while the edge starts early so i think i can make more use at toe off (but of course this is all speculation) .

[@chuajiaming5095]

Thanks alot for your insights!

[@hiddetenberg893]

I absolutely love all your content (by far favorite running channel), I love the scientific and biomechanical approach!! I have a question for you: I'm looking for a fast 10k shoe. The sky and the vaporfly are too unstable for me with pronation. I'm leaning towards the metaspeed edge+ or the endorphin pro 3, but they are so so similar in many ways; which shoe out of the two would you pick? I'm really interested in your opinion!

[@Ben-yw8be]

I have both for different purposes. Edge+: 5k to 10k. Sky+:21k to 42k.

[@AGC828]

I don't buy Asics marketing regarding "Cadence vs stride" runners. Every one increases their stride when running faster. Does incresing your stride by 5 more inches than some one the same height/leg length but has more strides but a 5" shorter "stride length"?? :) Nitpicking there. I think what it DOES come down to is if you're a "heel striker" (which I think a runner should be if with good proper form) vs "Firefoot striker/shuffler"... Might like the try the Edge+ when they come out with the "Edge 2" and discount the PLUS....Will be interesting to see how Asics betters the Edge+

[@bennettshfd2]

So at this point, what do you recommend for a training partner for these shoes?

[@MarcosBossle]

Novablast 2

[@leonal2680]

I'm assuming that the outsole durability hasn't improved? Its a shame as this poor durability is going to sway me from both

[@DoctorsofRunning]

Leon, I have 30 miles on my edge + with no outsole wear. I would say that are highly durable. -Matt

[@veliborvasovicofajax5358]

Got about 500 miles on mine......ne problem

[@davidlynch9049]

It depends on your mechanics. The rest of this review is ridiculous .