Does a cleric of Mystra recognize Mystra? (Baldur's Gate 3 Gale cutscene)

Unique dialog for Gale's weave cutscene in act 1. They thought of everything.

[@courtofcryptids7626]

I see that bloodless negative there... 👀👀

[@tashisauce]

👀👀👀

[@pejman3]

@@tashisauce just use lesser restoration to remove it

[@michasokoowski6651]

@@pejman3Laughs in paladin being immune to diseases. :D

[@dreamerofthorns]

Astarion is everyone's bisexual dream

[@TVMAN1997]

@@dreamerofthornsI drove a stake through his twink heart

[@clonesharpshooter101]

Dude, my cleric of Lathander didn’t even recognize Lathander’s symbol on the sentient amulet.

[@tashisauce]

RIP

[@418_im_a_teapot]

Somebody multiclassed into a Capri Sun, I see 👀

[@KirinDave]

Lol at the blood loss condition throughout all this. Someones been to succ town.

[@tashisauce]

Someone else called me a juice box. I'm here for it

[@MrMaradok]

2:44 So, obviously Mystra’s name is there, but there’s another god in that incantation - Ao (pronounced Ay-Oh) who’s described as the silent Overgod of Faerûn. He’s known to only show up if things are truly FUBAR, and is otherwise completely unreachable. Just to give you an idea, when the dragon gods Bahamut and Tiamat where actively fighting on the mortal plan, causing all kinds of destruction as a result, Ao, as a show of force, briefly just made them mortal. No thunderous fury and lightning strikes, no booming words spoken, just took away their divinity with the tacit threat of “fuck around and find out” So, here’s my question: what is that incantation that calls on THAT kind of power, and gets a result from it?

[@tj3603]

huh, it's an interesting perspective, explains why Gale get so flustered when you say it was easy

[@jescruz5465]

Ao is simply the dungeon master / game master in perfect sense.

[@tj3603]

@@jescruz5465 not really, there is another entity called Master of light (or smt like that), to whom Ao serves, and it suppose to be personification of Dungeon Master. Ao is more like personification of D&D rulebook.

[@jescruz5465]

@@tj3603 I see. thanks for the info.

[@Kytseo]

​@@tj3603The Luminous Being, yes?

[@berriesblue4302]

Your Tav is really pretty, I had yet to see one with short hair with a feminine appearance!

[@tashisauce]

Thank you

[@VoxRatio]

I fricking love Gale. Pure sincerity.

[@ashtonpeterson4618]

How do you get the "food and friendship option?" I only had the romance, mean it evil ones, or end it.

[@owl5536]

Larian mentioned that they’ve added friendly options for Gale in one of the patches since he was lacking those In older versions you could either love Gale back or straight out be cruel and hateful towards him

[@tj3603]

it's a patch 2 addition

[@ThePawcios]

all romances were bugged until recently.... they were too easy and NPCs were too horny XD They fixed it up because, citing Larian 'you need to put a time and effort in relationship'

[@Call-me-Creeds]

​@ThePawcios haha everyone in camp thought I loved them... wasn't hard at all and very unwanted most of the time as I wanted ONE person. Did they actually fix it?

[@ashtonpeterson4618]

@Call-me-Creeds they just released patch 3 which among many other things, raised the approval needed to be interested in romance

[@waaayBeyond]

Hi, can you tell me please how one triggers this scene? At launch it happend pretty easily but now it just doesn't wanna appear to me:(

[@tj3603]

Take him everywhere with you, make kind and altruistic choices, go to sleep every five minutes. Also there's mod on nexus that warn's you if you have unseen events in camp, very useful if you hunting for dialogs

[@tashisauce]

@@tj3603 This. He likes when you're a goody two shoes

[@TheAussieBlue]

At launch it was bugged. A number of party members had their relationship values all screwy. Triggers were set real low for testing and weren't raised back up. This is why Gale acted like the rebound and lae'zael was so eager.

[@waaayBeyond]

@@TheAussieBlue Good to know these, thanks. Tbh in my last run i managed to trigger this scene pretty early, was still messing around in the druid's grove when it happend. I'm not sure about it so don’t take my word as certainty, but it seemed that getting intimate with Astarion blocked it. So it happend when i knew he was a vampire but didn't spent the night with him.

[@ivylilybasket]

Did you sleep with other companions? I wasn't getting romance scenes, so I tried dumping Lae'zel after we did the bunga bunga, next night Karlach's scene triggered, if I rejected her, another night Gale's scene triggered. It would not show up if I stayed with Lae'zel or accepted Karlach's advances.

[@remip2]

Wanna see this magic trick?, yes. Next line... Wanna fuck?... wait wat? huh!?.. no? Gale: Sad puppy eyes... Then you Rest and Lae'zel jumps you.. aswell.. lmao. wtf

[@AndrewAment]

I did this. It was good

[@notshocked235]

Why no stab him in chest when you were done with him?

[@tashisauce]

Ima put him in a box and yeet him into the void instead

[@dreamerofthorns]

The hell is a cleric of mystra? Isnt mystra the goddess of magic? Isn't _Gale_ a better cleric of mystra than anything the cleric class will have? Can someone who knows dnd help me?

[@dreamerofthorns]

@@Rares0101 thank you for enlightening me ❤️

[@xalrath]

​@@dreamerofthornsimagine Mystra as the Goddess of Swords. people who use swords would pray to her but that doesn't make them sword priests. in that version of the story gale is a really good swordsman who eventually caught his Gods attention. meanwhile the priests are in the background being like "oh great she's found another mortal she thinks is cute, remember, nod respectfully and try not to piss off the boss"

[@garion046]

Clerics aren't just worshippers, they're advertising boards and public faces of a God. Gale definitely worships Mystra, but he's not exactly converting people or servicing a church to her in order to bring in more followers.

[@dreamerofthorns]

@@xalrath woah. Another great explaination!

[@skebaba918]

@@garion046 Yeah I was just about to comment that Clerics are basically the PR people of their deities, trying to amass more & more normies under their respective deities, kinda like how Goddesses of Harvest or w/e still have clerics despite the world being littered w/ farmers anyway who outnumber the clergy as is

[@JinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJin]

So how does a cleric of Mystra react when Gale admits he SHAGGED YOUR GOD?

[@blabbagush]

On the contrary, how do you think Gale feels that Elminster and Kelemvor got there before him? In short, it’s known that Mystra engages romantically with unique individuals who intrigue her. Most Mystran clerics probably aren’t really that much concerned by this fact as they are with their religious practices and duties towards her and their church, at least going by the lore of the setting.

[@Polomance862]

It's not as uncommon as you think. Gods are pretty horny folk.

[@Indigo_404]

I played a Mystran cleric, you get an option to be incredulous about it but not much else. Would’ve been funny if there was more

[@tashisauce]

I think it's interesting that we are a Mystran cleric that doesn't already know that Gale is her chosen.

[@B1gLupu]

@@blabbagush Gods are immaterial, so what Gale and Elminster actually boned was the avatar of Mystra.

[@thearcanamodernau8130]

Wouldn't it be awkward to romance Gale as a follower of Mystra? You'd be literally worshipping your boyfriend's ex

[@tashisauce]

I agree and I plan to explore this concept thoroughly! Talk about an inferiority complex though

[@adriankoch964]

On the other hand now you are esquimo-sisters with your chosen goddess. Quality table scraps if anything.

[@ljaquos]

"Listen she can join in if she wants. I can worship two things at once."

[@tashisauce]

@@ljaquos RIP

[@thearcanamodernau8130]

@@adriankoch964 LMAO this is messed up I love it

[@daliblue_]

This cutscene is really nice but tbh Gale is a funny guy. I literally rejected him * twice * and didn't get a single. romantic. cutscene. from him, and YET when I kissed Astarion for the first time after his confession, got really happy and all, but the sec I go to camp this man immediately told my bard something like "hOW COULD YOU? ARE YOU WITH ASTARION NOW? i tHougHT YOU LOVeD Me" ....like, man, I didn't even took you out of camp a single time, hello??💀

[@michasokoowski6651]

Poor gale has schizophrenia, i recently had him complain about a certain contract before even meeting said guy in the city... That said, there are still some bugged flags.

[@RenaissanceMotoko972]

The devs had to fix Gale twice through differents patches coz his romance flags were too broken 😂 you shouldn't have anymore issue with him in a new playthrough !

[@tashisauce]

When the game first came out, my husband had this problem. All my friends had this problem. But I, who was actively trying to romance gale, didn't get any sort of acknowledgement of our relationship until the end of act 2. I was like "Are we playing the same game???"

[@medusawitchful]

he don't chase people who love him hahaha@@tashisauce

[@bajes328]

Gale exists in several timelines at once. He will literally complain to you about making the wrong decision in a situation that hasn't even happened yet. This is probably a bug.

[@thomashongshagen4912]

its a bit strange that gale specifically namedrops ao during the game, since part of the lore of the forgotten realms is that ao deliberately erased any mention of himself from existence, to the point where he refuses to give the few people who actually know of him and worship him magic. He did ease up on it eventually, but he still is not a well know figure by any means, so its a bit strange that gale mentions him so casually, as if he is certain you would know who he is.

[@fimostudios7176]

tbh gale was a prodigy on his midst kinda like dr strange, and he literally dated a goddess, so... i guess him knowing about the all-mighty, at least by name, is actually reasonable

[@thomashongshagen4912]

@@fimostudios7176 yes, but to expect my dumb-ass ranger to do the same?

[@fimostudios7176]

@@thomashongshagen4912 lmao imagine a barbarian doing this

[@peters8512]

maybe the name is only being used as a "magic word" like YAHWEH is used in real incantations by occultists who are not Christian or Jewish? Gale wouldn't need to know anything about AO as a deity, only that the name carries power.

[@daliblue_]

@@peters8512 no, he knows who Ao is and expects the MC to know about it too; after meeting Elminster you can ask him why doesn't Mystra intervene to defeat the Absolute, and he clearly states to Tav "I don't doubt she has the power to do so, but Ao surely won't let her mess with mortal affairs"

[@Halinspark]

Not terribly different from the Sorcerer path, but we discussed interacting with the Weave more than we did Mystra. And then the fucker patronized me in the morning. "Oh, it was only easy because I helped you. Never mind that magic is in your blood by definition."

[@reniorjd]

Think that part was poorly writes because admits that at the end too.

[@PopcornEmma]

this just makes me realise how pretty the game looks if you can play on high settings haha

[@rinamorgan8795]

Gale, you are being extremely discouraging to those of us trying to date you lol.

[@tashisauce]

My first playthrough I dated him. I was very disappointed when I asked him if he still had feelings for Mystra and he was like *shrug* DUMPED

[@beccazach]

@@tashisauce I think it depends on how much you help him- either through friendship alone or romancing him. I've seen people get the ending where Gale says he's completely forgotten Mystra, so it might've just been your specific choices.

[@wolfrock1997]

​@trashi522 I don't know if this was before the patch but, as I am currently romancing him, when I asked him if he still had feelings for Mystra, he said that of course he does and they're all complicated, that looking back he regrets his relationship with her bc he knows he was just a pawn to her, another plaything, he regrets hurting her but he wants something better with you. I think him being honest saying that he still has all these complicated feelings for her makes sense, he loved her for years even before they were in a relationship, she is everywhere in magic, not exactly an easy relationship to just be over.

[@tashisauce]

@@wolfrock1997 Yeah, that's what he said to me... And I KNOW it's totally reasonable. But how could I move forward with a guy who's still so hung up on the past? How can I compete with his literal goddess???

[@JStryker47]

4:30 #3 is about what I would've pictured, as a straight man. Though it would include the other companions, and we'd be clinking our drink mugs together, in celebration of our defeat of the Absolute. Kind of disappointed too, that they couldn't get Tim to voice one last line, of Gale expressing delight at that thought.

[@CBeavr]

"i want you to picture in your mind the concept of harmony" *soft piano music starts playing*

[@dkSilo]

Of course Kira would connect with one of the prophets. ;) The cleric totally reminded me of her.

[@fallhayv8470]

Your Tav looks like David Bowie

[@tashisauce]

Thank you (I see this as a win)!

[@DaBase333]

Lmao kind of wanna know "picture his severed head on a pike" outcome

[@ivylilybasket]

Bards also have unique dialogues for this scene.

[@g0lddustt29]

All full casters do.

[@ivylilybasket]

@@g0lddustt29 Interesting, I expected at least Wizards, Sorcerers and Warlocks would, but didn't know about Clerics or Druids.

[@HeyitsEm18]

Paladins too it’s similar to Clerics of other gods

[@GayLPer]

I mean, every caster has their own dialogue options for this scene, their own way of following along with Gale. That being said, I don't know who else would have dialogue like this, except maybe another wizard? I've yet to play a Wizard Tav

[@AlcheaNemesis]

Love how the game acknowledges so many variables! Makes it tempting to play a cleric but i really do not have the time... Playing a high Wisdom class and romancing him feels oddly on point, given his plotline! Becoming his common sense, in a way. I did end up dating Gale with a redeemed Durge Druid and it was actually really fun. Like all non-Astarion romances for Durge, it's missing a bit on reactivity to plot points but I don't regret it. My girl ended up being a bit too much of a gentle soul, Gale and the sense of normalcy he gave were much more of a better fit. ***Spoilers for Durge and Gale's romance epilogue ahead*** As redeemed Durge you get two extra options, as far as i'm aware, to Gale asking you to marry him. First one is basically rejoicing at the idea of having a True Actual Family at last which, given that Durge is a partial clone of Bhaal who was *created* and hence has no mother or actual family (more so after rejecting Bhaal), I found super sweet (I chose that one, no regrets). The other is like "fine, but we are *adopting* here" which... honest to god makes sense given that poor Durge's bloodline is way too messed up and any child is likely to inherit the problems if we look at Orin.

[@TheHeroWTF]

Guess my durge won't get those options...unless Gale survived her taking his hand as a souvenir.

[@AlcheaNemesis]

@@TheHeroWTF I don't even know why are you saying this to me in a video about his romance quest, but that's your loss, my man. Maybe make better choices, I don't care about your terrible playthrough.

[@dantefiore8442]

@@AlcheaNemesis I got those marry and adopt options when I ended the game w/ him but me as a mindflayer, weird

[@AlcheaNemesis]

@@dantefiore8442 I can confirm i wasn't a mindflayer, so i can only imagine they repurposed them for a Mindflayer for the... obvious reasons.

[@ebubbyy]

I know it said gale approves but I Try and be nice to everyone and feel bad rejecting them. so when I picked the food and friendship option I saw it as a good out. but he still looked so sad that I felt bad and avoided the interaction all together.

[@adriankoch964]

Gale got Friendplaned.

[@RedMage8BT]

I failed the incantation and this encounter ended there rip

[@AvangionQ]

A god specific to the Forgotten Realms. As is the weave, a concept exclusive to Forgotten Realms. For some reason, a lot of D&D players misunderstand that bit of lore ... and I'm not sure why that is.

[@neoqwerty]

blame the settings that like to slurp in characters from ALL the other settings indiscriminately, and/or DMs who are faintly familiar with said character-vacuuming 'crossover' settings but don't know if/when a particular mechanic breaks outside its specific origin setting/inside its "host" setting because they didn't read the first version of the setting rules that mention it unlike later editions. (I've run into this with Ravenloft games and paladin/cleric players who think they're signing up for Devil May Cry D&D edition and end up playing an existential crisis because you get a dial tone instead of a god and detect good/evil stop working in absolutes and start working on what the character thinks is good or evil, when it does at all.)

[@admiraltonydawning3847]

@@neoqwertyMeanwhile latest edition "detect good/evil" doesn't detect good or evil at all. Instead it detects based on race/type "aberration, celestial, elemental, fey, fiend, or undead".

[@Walrussnor]

Not the point of the video, but your Tav is stunning

[@tashisauce]

Thank youuuu

[@annali7189]

So when you choose the friendship option it ends immediately. Like when you do choose to end it immediately lol

[@spikem5950]

But at the least you get an approval from it, if you need to up his approval any.

[@archivist_of_dragonstone]

I figured it was Mystra going "Oop, no, no Gale for you!" XD

[@adriankoch964]

That reaction probably is scheduled for extra voicelines to get a better response.

[@cowboy5826]

Beautiful Tav!:)

[@tashisauce]

Thank you

[@VigorMortis413]

i wish you could worship a god as a non-cleric. most in faerun worship some god.

[@rose_bushes]

i saw that bloodless debuff 😏

[@a_soriano]

your tav is so handsome and pretty ♡ did u use any mods or are these all base game features? also I see u fellow juicebox ¬‿¬

[@tashisauce]

Thank you! She's all base game features!

[@jeantechnoir7702]

I for one have been in touch with the weed for a Loooooong time 😅

[@scarfking1579]

My playthrough glitched and this cutscene skipped after two lines of dialogue

[@driftingdruid]

you make me want restart my cleric into changing gods, lol

[@mcwhonperjr]

I didn't get this cutscene because dumb ass Gale had the necrotic aura on and I had to long rest before he killed Scratch

[@tashisauce]

Yo what? NO

[@sadworms3849]

Is your character Kira Nerys?

[@tashisauce]

Now that you mention it I see the likeness! But no correlation

[@hectoraarlott]

0:43 well well well

[@Tymloo]

is that... Moira??

[@Tymloo]

YOUR TAV IS MOIRA ISTG

[@tashisauce]

she's been compared to many but I think Moira fits the best!

[@Jenna_Talia]

Why does your character vaguely remind me of david bowie

[@tashisauce]

Because she's fabulous

[@jessemick8436]

Girl we all saw that bloodless negative there 👀

[@tantan_44]

The bloodless 👌

[@LeCoffeeCat]

Petition for a poly with cleric of Mystra Tav, Gale and The Goddess of Magic herself 😂

[@udontseeme2889]

The number of variables that are included in the game are simply astonishing. And all of it voice acted. This game more than deserves every price and every praise it got!

[@bolikde9389]

The character looks cool.

[@shadowldrago]

Fun fact, Lesser Restoration gets rid of Bloodless.

[@Prophetofcthulhu]

Wierd i have never got this dialog...

[@daliblue_]

Me neither

[@lunarwench]

why he got stains all over his shirt though thinking about Mystra a little TOO much...

[@hannie3000]

His shirt is supposed to be velvet I think?

[@lunarwench]

@@hannie3000 I know, I was trying to make a dirty joke XD

[@hannie3000]

@@lunarwench Haha, fair. My apologies

[@RedDeadSakharine]

Great looking Tav!

[@tashisauce]

Thank you! :)

[@MoonsongReverb]

Yay, some people at least understand me. If you have no clue about D&D i can imagine you don't ecven think about it. But i'm a Mystra fan and i don't really agre with the way, Larian depicts Mystra in BG3. Sorry, but in the Ketheric fight scene it seems like she's willing to sacrifice not only Ga

[@byrus1]

Are you kidding me? Mystra is so messed up if you cast divine intervention on her the other gods come around with some chairs and a clipboard

[@MoonsongReverb]

@@byrus1 Not sure what that means....

[@yoursonisold8743]

Going against Mystra is a quick way for Gale to become an ex-person. If this puny mortal actually thinks he can become a god with the crown you are in for a surprise lol

[@c.b.-]

Yeah, I don't quite like what Larian did to Kelemvor or Loviatar either. _(Hell, even how they_ pronounce _Loviatar's name bugs me.)_ So it feels like one of those times where you're just not seeing eye-to-eye with a new DM. 🤷‍♀

[@Karl_der_Genosse]

Don't forget that Mystra is true neutral. She doesn't really care about morality or lawfulness, she only looks out for herself and her domain. That's why there are evil wizards that can use the weave as they like, no matter how much wrong they do. One of Mystras Chosen is litteraly an evil Dracolich expirimenting with powerful magic, but Mystra only cares about the last part: Furthering Magic and therefor herself by having wizards study it.

[@Foxexar]

Every single thing Gale responds with. Is his normal dialog. Why the fuck did they go through the effort of even allowing you to select a different option if he says the exact same thing

[@SonicBoyster]

This is a silly question. It’s just another way to get through the dialog that is a little more accurate to your character if you happen to be a cleric of mystra. If there was nothing there people would ask why there weren’t options.

[@Foxexar]

@@SonicBoyster That makes no sense. For how much effort Larion put into this. It's More silly to imagine they added additional . dialog options but has no additional voice lines. Considering everything else they were able to cover. This just seems like a bug and there should be other dialog that Gale speaks.

[@yoursonisold8743]

Those options aren't about Gale, they are about you. As a Cleric of Mystra these things come easy to you. That's all these options signify. To Gale it makes little difference.

[@MoonsongReverb]

I had that dialogue. too. But my Mystra cleric/ bard is always very cute and understanding, not so ...masculine. She knows always what to say to Gale . ;) You will still have moments whe it gets weird to serve Mystra under the circumstances and the way the godess treats Gale later. I only say "War of Roses". But my cute little elf convionced thze guy that it's better to date someone who is mortal by now. :D

[@notatallfunctional]

Wtf

[@JB-xl2jc]

Yeah it's pretty goddamn weird to be a cleric of Mystra trying to date Gale when Gale used to be rawdogging her

[@WallySketch]

@@JB-xl2jc It's pretty weird even when you're not a cleric of Mystra. Gale reminds me of a toxic player in D&D with a backstory that I would never let pass as a DM, yet Larian through it would be a good idea to add that Gary Stu to the game...

[@doomerbloomer6160]

@@WallySketch Gary Stu? Bro, he fucked around and found out. Nothing Gary Stu about him. Don't get me wrong, he's the most boring companion, but it's not like he's horribly written.

[@WallySketch]

@@doomerbloomer6160 The "tragic backstory" or "fallen from grace backstory" is very common with Mary Sue/Gary Stu. The moment Gale is in your group, he makes everything revolves around him. If he dies, you HAVE to bring him back or the game ends. He has an ending dedicated to himself where he is the tragic hero. His ex-girflriend is a goddess, because of course she is. He is treated as one of the most important magician of the world, knows everything about magic and always have word of wisdom to share. He even solve some riddles for you if you have him in your group because he is so smart and everything is easy for him. I am sorry but he is 100% a Gary Stu.