Does an aftermarket filter work or not? We dyno before and after.

Dyno my stock 2017 Z06 (2 pulls) then replace the stock air filter with an aftermarket one. Then do 2 more pulls and compare the results. Note that I posted the dyno sheets in reverse..Duh!!
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[@williamlange6960]

Nice educational review on the air filter. It was nice to see proof in the dyno pulls! Might snag me one for my vette.

[@blackflagpirate3444]

Just bought a induction kit for my car.Getting tuned to the car in the next few days.Great video 🏁🍻Lots of stunning cars at that garage 😳

[@sc1scotty]

Thanks for taking the time with these videos! My first Vette (2017 Z06/Z07) is now loaded in a trailer making the trek from Chicago to me in OKC (2 long days till delivery). I'm amazed and excited to see your otherwise stock I assume Z06 is putting down those real numbers! I'm also a Tewksbury MA to S FL transplant as a kid. Thanks Again! Add: Nice FJ stable mate for the "Z"... Mine will be parked next to my FJR.

[@timothyconnell2933]

I have a 2017 Z06 and I was looking at this filter.Definitely worth the money.That torque increase is incredible for a filter swap.

[@marcosimone969]

awesome video!! and thanks for posting it!....I just purchased one of these filters for my 2017 Z06!! and so far happy as hell I did, so keep up the good work! cheers :)

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks! We''re working on some more.

[@jamesinkeys]

Bob, James Krusee here, talked about carts and Clubs, Sterling Moss with your super nice wife, at Dunkin Donuts 12/15 /17...Beautiful white corvette.. Original 1953 corvettes only came in white, so that color has stayed with me ... Love the wheels, really enhances the car and looks factory...Never knew about Burnyzz in Ocala,, T.Y....Great meeting and talking with you both...Subed, and a thumbs up!!

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks James. Great to meet you today. Thanks for the sub and Thumbs up.

[@advantager355]

Great content as always my brother.

[@berniesands6201]

Wow your a cool dude, beautiful car👍

[@MJ-vv4jc]

Nicely done !!!!

[@cookiehead2]

It seems like the gains from these type of filters are directly proportional to the engine displacement. large displacement engines get a significantly more out of the more free-flowing filters.

[@zososldier]

I would say (depending on the chart of where that torque was picked up) you would feel that change. The horse power increase was negligible at only around 1% or 2%. The torque however was around a 10% increase and that would definitely be noticeable.

[@afri1414]

You can take a man out of New England, but you can't take New England out of a man. I recognize that accent anywhere.

[@RobertMacCready]

I thought my accent had changed since I moved to FL. but every so often some asks me if I'm from Boston, and I wonder why? Don't I sound like everyone else here in Central Florida?

[@afri1414]

@@RobertMacCready Great video. I was vacationing in Bermuda. A guy in a bar heard my Boston accent. I don't even feel like I have one, but I do.

[@rumpestillskin4671]

That's a great increase in Torque !!!

[@goldenmanuever1176]

69 lbs-ft of torque from a simple filter change? holy crap.

[@RobertMacCready]

I could not believe it. But that's what the guy running the dyno got. He does hundreds of dyno runs a year so I believe he knows what he's doing. I'm hoping someone else does that same thing and we could compare numbers.

[@arm741]

tires heating up after the first dyno probably helped with the torque on the second dyno

[@NerdKid72]

There is no way. Probably a spike in the tach signal wire or something.

[@SuperBigNye]

this is a boosted motor so its not surprising it picked up hp and tq like it did if it was na it wouldnt have

[@el-hp1lj]

that gain is almost all of the torque in my car alone lol

[@mrfox2230]

nice video sir

[@glenrybacek9088]

Great,video k dude have a,zo7 gonna,try the K&N air filter intake

[@NKaumans]

Dyno shops need to be closing the door hoods when getting performance data. With the hood open the open element filter is able to draw its air from a open cooler source than what it would normally have if you were on the road. This open element filter doesn't use heat dams and with the hood closed the intake temperature increases around 30F, and as we know hot air is less dense air.

[@RobertMacCready]

Couple of things... the hood was open for ALL the pulls, both before and after so both filters enjoyed any advantage. Secondly, we bought the filter, paid for the dyno, so we were beholding to no one. My instructions to the guy doing the dyno ( he does over 500 pulls a year) was to show me the difference in the stock filter and the performance one. Also the owner of the shop is a very accomplished alcohol drag racer who competes on the NHRA circuit. I have total respect for his shop, the people in his shop, and their ability.

[@HandicapRacer]

Nick Kaumans i think youre dense. while moving air temps drop. so to get an equivalent reading you open the hood to allow for fresh air since the car is not moving...just like why people will put fans infront if the cars while on the dyno. if anything the dyno shows less hp than real world. but youre little cave you live in probably damaged all your brain cells to understand that.

[@raydelfa1125]

atack blue is probably the best air filter out for the C7 Z06

[@worldwidesports4k]

Nice Vette.

[@z512345]

Cheap mod with good results, always the first thing I do.

[@randyrhodes7526]

I am only a 4 hr. drive south of there, I am in that local every year in Nov.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

The horsepower increase is to be expected (about average or less than). What I did not expect was the large increase in torque. And I guess that proves it was worth it.

[@leonardrice2830]

Hey, hello. Hellcat guy here. Amazing video. I had a similar "seat of the pants" feeling replacing a paper element air filter with a K&N. Now, full disclosure, I believe local oil changer just put in a "one size fits all" Dodge filter, however with the cotton fiber K&N, my enjoyment of car went up. Exhaust even sounds different.🤔 I definitely believe you've proven filters matter!😉

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks, friend of mine just bought one and loves it.

[@ganuv]

69 pound feet of torque?? That doesn’t make sense at all ! Way too much just from a filter

[@Hey_Blinkin]

Blown cars respond much better to an air filter. This Dyno may have been a little high but I could definitely see an improvement of 30-45. I own a 19, did the same swap and its a different car.

[@Hey_Blinkin]

@@Wisperride do you own one? Have you done the swap? I was of the same mind frame you are before I did mine. Again, I can't speak to numbers, but it gets into boost much quicker than it did with the stock OEM filter. And the above video shows a change, so to say it's BS isn't accurate. Edit: the 30-45 number I threw out up there was hypothetical. Would it surprise if it was less or more? No.

[@watchthisusa]

@@Hey_Blinkin So it's a "feeling" you're going off of to determine the 30-45? Data sheet or it's just a subjective feeling.

[@Hey_Blinkin]

@@watchthisusa what? It's both. Multiple data sheets all over the internet including this one (which I suspect may be high, but also wouldn't surprise me if it isn't.). And it's also how the car felt after it was swapped. I'll ask you the same thing I asked the guy who deleted his previous comments. Do you have one? And if so, did you change yours? And again, mine felt noticeably different. And everyone I know who has done it, says the same thing.

[@gaellietard1203]

when I put a K&N filter on my brand new 5.7 hemi it was day and night .

[@47ettan]

Thanks for this information, do you have Air/fuel ratio before and after? Did Burger filter lean out AF/R?

[@ecec5863]

if remove the air box yes it will lean out need to tune for more fuel as a result more power

[@BobbyDigital_100]

Robert!! Great upload man! I live in Fleming island, FL about 1.5hrs from Ocala... does this place specialize in vettes? If I don't go with the C8, I'll start doing more mods to my '17 Zo6M7. Thanks!💥🙌🏾🇺🇸💥

[@RobertMacCready]

They do a ton of aftermarket installs on many types of cars, including Corvettes. The owner is a pro driver on the NHRA circuit.

[@BobbyDigital_100]

@@RobertMacCready thanks!👍🏾

[@chrisb1143]

Folks... this one is obviously bogus information. Check the mph differences in the graphs. They used a different gear for the runs. The one that is not 1:1 is reading the torque too low. No 69wtq gains from a drop in filter lol. Filter is worth 4-6hp maybe.

[@stephenlane2826]

Nice video but that 20% loss is probably high and i find it hard to believe you could gain 60 torque from replacing the airfilter. Most times even a tune barely gets you that number. Very nice car. Love the c7 vettes.

[@RobertMacCready]

Totally understand but That's the data the dyno op gave me. I hope to doing another dyno run (before and after on a tune) and I'll see what the before looks like. BTW a good tune should be worth at least 40. Have done tunes with past Corvettes and the tunes were all between 30 and 50.

[@stephenlane2826]

@@RobertMacCready i watched a couple other vids with before and after dyno runs with adding a cold air intake and it looks that your numbers are pretty correct. Ive just never seen that increase from an airfilter alone before. Its amazing. How did the driving difference feel given the zo6 has big horsepower already.

[@Frostytravels]

Does your car have the PDR....i use mine all the time...great video by the way...keep it up

[@RobertMacCready]

No, this one didn't have it ... but the deal on the car was so good I went for it!!! And thanks for the encouragement.

[@countwalker9362]

Frosty's Travel's love the pDR have a 2019 z51 2lt

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

What about the worst runs and middle runs? I think that while your approach simplified the information processed that it's important to not throw a way the other runs. Glad you enjoyed your trip. I saw you on playte's video and I'm here to support and I hope you can do the same for a fellow auto-enthusiast.

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks! Yes, will be back at ya! On the dyno run...the guy that did them is very experienced and these are the printouts he gave me. I would like to find another dyno place to do a comparison. Since I've only been down here full-time a bit more that 1 year I will need more time to filter out the good from the bad!!! And thanks for the sub. I need to get to 1, 000 to meet the new KZbin criteria. Got the hours just need the subscriptions.

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

I'm in the exact same spot Robert. :)

[@nigellall8376]

Subbed @@RobertMacCready

[@goneflying140]

With gains like that it is obviously flowing much better than stock. My question is this: Is it letting dirt through the filter? Is there any data on how well it filters?

[@RobertMacCready]

Had the car for 3 years and it ran flawlessly. I have not seen any data on the filter. If you have any concerns I would not use anything but the stock filter. Put a good tune on the car and add methanol.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

@@RobertMacCready - And keep the filter clean and oiled.

[@NMChiphopdawg]

Thats a nice Z06... is something off here or did that vette actually make that much torque from a filter? Wow

[@RobertMacCready]

Those are the numbers the dyno op printed out for me. They seem high and probably need to be done somewhere else to see if the same numbers can be done. I do feel the car is more responsive when I drive it, but that's not verifiable!

[@corvetteandcarscorvetteand624]

Good job on the video..what was the name brand of the filter?

[@RobertMacCready]

Its a drop in performance filter by Burger Motorsports. I bought it on Ebay.

[@markburns9068]

I ordered one directly from Burger. Installed it today with the 500 mile oil change on my Z06!

[@kerrylittle3900]

Nice video. Have you considered the AFE cold air intake? I have been looking at videos on it and some are getting an extra 30 HP on the Z06. I am considering putting one on my brand new C7 I just bought. Only has 200 miles on it so that new. LOL>

[@Casino_flo]

Did you get one if so which one and how did it work out for you

[@spookypunky]

If you already have a high performance engine, a performance filter would work. If you have an older car w a lot of miles (like a Civic), this filter would be a complete waste of money.

[@larrymchaney4792]

Wouldn’t you have to allow some runs to allow the afr to adjust?

[@RobertMacCready]

Probably a good idea. Dyno guy was very busy so no time that day and we wanted to try and keep all the other variables the same. By coming back a day or 2 later you'd bring other variables. So, is it really accurate, probably not. But you can get some idea of if it works or not? I think so.

[@tokyodragonmasterlee409]

Nice zo6

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks!

[@dirkpalmer1067]

So which filter is best? Didn't have time for 17 minutes.

[@Davis2920022001]

The Ghost filter 👻 No restriction Bruh

[@csanchezjr71]

Can you post data for both "stock" pulls and both "new filter" pulls? The reason I'm asking is because it sounds like your second "new filter" pull was done in 4th gear rather than fifth, like the other pulls. That may explain why your torque numbers seemed to gain so much.

[@RobertMacCready]

I have the dyno sheets in the video but you can shoot me your email and I'll send you copies.

[@gherrera6665]

C Sanchez i thought it did seem like the new filter pull was in 4th as well. -And Robert the dyno sheet not going to show what gear the pull was made in.

[@skitzofranicfreak]

C Sanchez yeah you're 100% right there's no way anyone is gaining 60+ torque from a simple air filter swap it doesn't happen like that you don't even gain that from changing rear end gear ratios and also the second set of pulls sounded so much deeper from the exhaust

[@skitzofranicfreak]

Guillermo h almost seems like someone is just trying to brag about their Vette 🤷💯

[@JayLewTheTruth]

wow what would full cai do I wonder

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

When I looked at your runs they showed print which I could read which shared very different runs for with and without. Are you sure your results are accurate?

[@RobertMacCready]

I'm actually looking for another dyno place to compare the numbers. I've always been a bit skeptical of dyno numbers but I see no alternatives but to go to different places. I'm going to do a few more 0-60 runs to see if there is any change and possibly some 0-100 to use for further comparisons. Will do the Ocala 1/2 mile in October too.

[@davidverhoef3129]

Actually in the video the sheets are reversed. The one he shows for run 1 is the after and the one he shows for run 2 is before.

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

Regardless of what value I looked at the power from one run to the other matched rather than being different. It appears to have had no effect.

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

I'm sure the information is right. My issue with the data is that they did very different runs with and without the new air filter so actually saying if it helped or not is impossible. They have to chose the parameter of the run and stick to it for before and after, otherwise the results aren't comparable.

[@robertmartinez696]

Really...its 2019 and someone asked if a filter works...that's like asking if there is such thing as sliced bread

[@jafxdwg]

"666" ....I thought that number was restricted for Black Corvettes Only. :)

[@adrianhetmanski1832]

heh XD

[@seanmccready9564]

Great video. I have used K&N filters for years and have always found that regardless of the vehicle the engines are always a little livelier with better response and acceleration with K&N filters. I’ve just ordered a Pipercross for my XK8, hopefully I find the same sort of difference from the stock as with the K&N. oh and Your last name is pretty awesome (Mac, Mc....whatever)

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks!! I'm sure that K&N will work just fine.

[@seanmccready9564]

Robert MacCready well us McCreadys (MacCreadys) have to stick together.

[@nighthawk0077]

Wow I guess that filter was laced with unobtanium, some supercharger kits barely put out that much extra torque. Hold on to that Gem, probably worth at least 3K!

[@ls3stngklr696]

Blower cars pull in a lot of air so gains are expected.

[@the_batmobile0.4]

It does only if you drive aggressively

[@IntegraDIY]

7:36 Honda NSX!!!

[@RobertMacCready]

Yes, Good catch!

[@justinsteinley4093]

I am ordering one for my 19 Z06, how much was it?

[@Hey_Blinkin]

They are 89. Do it. I swapped mine in my 19. Blower and exhaust are audibly louder. Throttle response is dei better too. Cheap and easy.

[@stebensbobby]

U should try kn&n

[@JohnBoulding]

That's one screwed up Dyno, lol. You will never see that much torque increase from only an air filter change, never.

[@Frostytravels]

By the way....what was the cost of the dyno?

[@RobertMacCready]

I think it was $100. But not sure exactly. Remember it was pretty reasonable.

[@DERDM]

Did you disconnect and reconnect the battery when you changed the filter?

[@RobertMacCready]

No, they did not disconnect the battery.

[@Casino_flo]

Why disconnect the battery?

[@soulerflare7]

@@Casino_flo because air filters have ELECTRICITY SURGING THROUGH THEIR VEINS !!!!!!

[@NorthernMan932]

Anyone know why these filters are so expensive?

[@stevornrichards1380]

John didn't you just saw 11hp and 69 pound feet? Pretty sure that justifies the price

[@perditionluc]

@urbex2007 also never believe commenters on a KZbin video who make alot of claims to use an appeal to authority fallacy.

[@Keyno77]

Did they do a tune for the filter install?

[@RobertMacCready]

No, only the filter was changed.

[@Keyno77]

@@RobertMacCready Impressive

[@stephenk1208]

Good video on the air filter. I noticed on your other Z06 videos you have a radar detector which appears to be attached to the rear view mirror for it's power source. If you can make a video of how you attached it, what wire you used, etc. it would be very appreciated. I had a detector on my 2014 C7 plugged into the back of the mirror but now I would like to add a detector to my 2016 Z06 but have heard that the power source on the mirror is different now.

[@RobertMacCready]

That;s a good idea. The Corvette Forum has a couple of really good how-to threads with pictures. BUT I still might do one next month.

[@82nevermore]

5 to 7 hp on 1.4 turbo engines with panel filter.....11 hp is a little bit lame for that engine.....heat soaked on dyno probably...

[@karpetcm]

You didnt gain 69 rwtq, unfortunately on a dyno real easy to mess up torque figures. Common problem not reading torque at all, to low reading or to high reading.

[@solodolo1896]

7:50 grand national

[@RobertMacCready]

Always wanted a Grand National ever since I saw one. A definite keeper!!

[@naitch1761]

On a Honda Civic with 90 horsepower of course it will not work! On a 500-plus HP engine of course it will make a difference it's logic

[@tastegw]

what am i missing here? the diagrams posted in wrong order? because if not, you lost power with the new filter.

[@RobertMacCready]

Good catch, wrong order.

[@tastegw]

Robert MacCready , still an awesome car, no worries.

[@leafywatson249]

Bossman me and wify loves how you pass red truck at light video time 3:45 also we loves all those nice cars and boyyyy your vette made power and more power thanks

[@RobertMacCready]

Thanks Leafy. Always like to read your posts!

[@paulmenard4114]

Great stuff Bobby! Ol’ Bernie has got quite the inventory that’s for sure!

[@cobaltpica]

video starts at 11:45..

[@brunog.4115]

Tks

[@vaugr1917]

Fyi most k&n filters are over oiled and restrictive out of the box.. will pick up a bit more power after excess oil is sucked out of them with some driving

[@supertoroism]

it doesn't make a noticeable difference in terms of top speed, but it makes the car accelerate easier on lower rpms. If you have new vehicle with a fast shifting automatic transmission, you won't see huge improvements on your acceleration times. But if you have an older vehicle with 4, 5 or 6 speed slow shifting torque convertor automatic, than you can have some noticeable gains thanks to increased torque and power on lower rpms.

[@derJackistweg]

2%

[@Topsiekku]

555-546=9hp ei 11hp

[@RichardGilbride]

I. Agree with last comment snake oil

[@JakeSmith-bs1yd]

Cheyenne

[@hailscott1]

I doubt there is 20% drive-train loss, maybe 15%. Still good numbers though,

[@trn450]

You don't have to doubt. Do the math. 546 hp * 1.192 = 650.8. It's a smidge over 19% drive train loss. His numbers are very realistic.

[@freedomrider266]

It's Florida, he's probably got a/c on. Most cars run 9-15% loss to rwp. 19.%+ does sound high for a Z06. Go figure...

[@coreyrosenthal4278]

absolutely positively no way that he gained 69 pound feet of torque from just a filter swap. He needs to go back to school and take up mathematics. Insanity at its best.

[@jeromeperales8036]

Man you drive that vett like a grandpa! Oh wait my bad,smh

[@ladariva6619]

Probably sucks in more dirt

[@RobertMacCready]

Nah!

[@obtrunco]

That's not even a brand name so why waste money on a dyno?

[@henrirttabrowm5808]

what took you so long. The video is 18 minutes long and you didn't. start the dyno stuff until 12 minutes. in. What was the brand of the filter.

[@RobertMacCready]

There is a link to the filter in the description.