Does Battery Capacity Affect the Performance of Cordless Tools?

[@PieterL747]

Ingco uses Highstar ISR18650 cells for their batterys, for the 2Ah, 4Ah and 6Ah they use the 2000mAh cells And for the 5Ah and 6.5Ah they use the 2500mAh cells. The 2000mAh is rater at 10c (meaning is can deliver a peak current of 2000mAh x 10 = 20Amps) The 2500mAh is raated at 8C (meaning is can deliver a peak current of 2500mAh x 8c = 20Amps) But the test shows the 2000Ah cels are superiors. I guess at 6 and 7.5Ah the tool has reached it peak performance and extra battery power hass less effect. This test was so informative, I was a 5Ah guy but I stand corrected. 4Ah wins

[@AlexY2-b6y]

Highstar cells isn't so good, both my 4.0ah Dong Cheng/DCA battery went out after 18 months while the EVE cells still going strong after 2 years....

[@SwimmingBrambles]

My new Ingo 4 Ah batteries use DMEGC INR18650 20P cells. Highstar in the 2 Ah. My data shoes the Highstars are rated 30 Amp cells and the DMEGC are 40 Amp cells so in the 4Ah battery we have capability of 80 amps whilst the 2 Ah is just 30 Amps. These figures always have to be taken with a pinch of salt and more important is the discharge curves but they do show the 4Ah battery cells to be much more capable than the 2 Ah batteries and this is reflected in this video review.

[@PieterL747]

@SwimmingBrambles I just rechecked mine. My 5Ah has Highstar 2500. Maybe they changed or use different suppliers

[@SwimmingBrambles]

​@@PieterL747 Now, this makes sense why the 5Ah battery has slightly less performance than the 4Ah battery. It has 30Amp cells rather than 40 Amp cells. However being a higher capacity it may perform better after a set period of use and same discharge on both batteries.

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

Thank you very much for your informative comment! Some valuable information!

[@seanfenwick]

Well that video was more informative than 90% of what’s actually out there.. thank you.

[@yasirmahmood5500]

Considering that this 66nm Ingco cordless drill comes with 2.0Ah batteries, it makes sense to upgrade to a 4.0Ah battery. Over the 2.0Ah battery, the 4.0Ah battery was: 40 rpm (2.12%) faster in RPM Test; 0.41 sec quicker (11.26%) in Drill Test; and 2.4 nm (9.76%) tourquier in Torque Test. Compared to the performance of 5Ah and higher capacities over 4Ah, the difference is very marginal. Over 4Ah, 7.5Ah has 30 more rpms (1.55%) and is 0.2 sec quicker (6.19%) in RPM and Drill Tests, respectively. However, Torque Test result is same i.e. 27nm. So 4 Ah is for the win!

[@PieterL747]

@yasirmahmood5500 I agree, and I thought for sure the 5Ah would win. Now we know

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

Thank you very much for your comment! 100% agree with everything you have said here, thank you very much for watching!

[@stuartkonig]

This video turned out very well!

[@vimal1960]

Thank you. This was exactly what I was wrestling with for a month.

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

Absolute pleasure!

[@richardjacobs7974]

Did you win the wrestling? 👀

[@SidneyMaree-y3l]

Hopefully you will do a similar comparison with the cordless grinder

[@amirahmad4212]

wow good performance test very good comparison

[@PhantoM1992MKD]

They should make a package where is put ingco 66nm brushless and 2 4ah batteries. We will pay for that. And one more package One ingco 66nm plus 500nm wrench with 4ah in a case ....

[@brahmmeyer1062]

Great video, thank you!

[@nicolasvanstaden263]

Awesome video, you earned a subscriber👌 looking at some cordless drills on special for black Friday. What do you recommend: Dewalt 18V compact cordless hammer with 2× 1.5Ah batteries for R2,149 Ingco cordless brushless-Compact 66Nm with 2×2Ah batteries for R1,899. Dewalt is obviously better but the batteries are bigger and R250 cheaper. Plus I think Im more likely to buy Ingco for other tools down the line due to availability and cost etc

[@ktmextreme4013]

Awesome video, you guys rock, thank you, i am always expanding my ingco cordless range, your videos are really informative and a massive help for me as a domestic use buyer. Please could you make a video of the impact wrench 850nm

[@minamatta6135]

Great video, keep it going , video idea 16v drill vs it's 20v brother

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

Thank you for your suggestion! We will certainly consider this comparison in the future!

[@SuperStefanventer]

great test, looks like 4ah is the way to go!!

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

100%

[@HencoSmit]

Can you please do this test with the 115mm brushless cordless angle grinder.

[@Jacenell7]

I know the angle grinder has a massive jump in performance from the 2ah to 4ah battery. 2ah it cuts out a lot but on 4ah you can really cut with little stoppage

[@HencoSmit]

​@@Jacenell7thanks appreciate.

[@dinen5557]

I can't see difference in my circular saw performance using 4ah and 7.5ah battery. But 7.5ah have front battery indicator and give me longer runtime. I hope ingco release a cordless ginder that have dial style speed selector. Their flat button sucks and have to start always in high speed before you can adjust to lower speed

[@rooibaard832]

how is the performance of your circular saw and how long does your battery last ? I am in two minds about buying a cordless or corded

[@proudlysa5260]

We use a Ingco brushless grinder at work every day for the last couple of months. we use 4ah and 6ah batteries. We use bosch 115 grinders for 8 hours every day for finishing. The ingco cordless is one of the most useful tools in the factory for quick jobs. An example will be to remove strapping from new material where we cut the strapping and only use the grinder for a few seconds at a time. The time you save by not using extension cords for quick jobs is unthinkable.

[@MrSlipperyfusion]

So how would this fair on more power hungry tools like the rotary hammer or even the 40v steamer unit?

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

Future testing is on the way. We are at the tip of the proverbial iceberg here.

[@Mpl-go6yr]

The weight of the battery help it to drill fast 7.5 is heavier than 1.5 bat

[@poefter]

I would like to see this test done with the 850nm impact wrench

[@MrDonovano]

Very helpful 🍻

[@jowynorian1276]

Moral of the story; Dont buy 5ah just directly buy a 6ah if you are from 2ah or 4ah 😅

[@dm1904]

5Ah battery is the maximum where you still have some good balance in your hand for your tools. 6+ Ah batteries are too heavy, but still the best choice for cordless vacuum cleaner or circular saw.

[@doctorzvingo9321]

i compare side by side 4 and 5ah battery, difference is 4ah battery cells have more peak amps than 5, but 5 ah have more capacity, soo it means 6.0 and 7.5 ah batteries have low discharge cells or bms cant deliver more amps

[@MurrayWhaley]

Please do the 850nm impact wrench max torque next

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

We tried to do this but it broke our rig. We busy building a new rig to test it properly. We will publish our results as soon as we are happy with our rig and testing procedure.

[@ElvisAKA-j3r]

The best are 2.0 and 4.0ah models

[@mahjoubihoussem9677]

why there is a big difference in force from 66nm from what they said and the test max is 27nm?

[@doctorzvingo9321]

it just marketing, bosch says their top drill have 170nm but but reality it have 72nm max with crazy expensive battery

[@jankapan8893]

Soerthings wrong with the 5ah battery, how much more expensive is that than the 4ah

[@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY]

And if you are running a 21700 cell Battery and if that Battery is the new TABLESS CELLS and POUCH CELLS will give you more Power

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

We will definitely be testing this tech in batteries in the future, the weight to power output is continuously improving!

[@danielwilliamguerronespino1882]

Para miodo de ver el amperaje no le da mas fuerza si no es 3l tiemp5de duración de carga

[@CarlosRE-07]

Esta prueba hubiera Sido mejor con el taladro de 70 nm no con ese otro motor con escobillas

[@leonvanderlinde5580]

1) The type of batteries in each pack differs radically. If you measure the voltage on the contacts you would find a difference. That makes a radical difference. 2) Higher capacity batteries comes with a higher voltage. That will give you higher speed and thus higher torque. 3) you will need to measure the voltage before the test and then mathematically compensate to do a proper test.

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

Thank you for this insight, going forward with future testing this is something we will measure / consider / look at.

[@doctorzvingo9321]

higher capacity batteries have less voltage drop thats why spins faster

[@SomethingZen0]

1. These batteries specifically have the same chemistry(NMC), they have the same maximum and minimum voltage parameters. 2. Higher capacity does not mean higher voltage. A higher capacity battery will be able to provide more current without sagging the battery voltage too much, this is what causes the higher rpm. In motors, current is what creates the torque. 3. Assuming they were all fully charged before the test, there will still be a voltage difference between each battery. If it's new and has been properly fully charged between measuring, there may be a 10-50mV difference between each battery. Which isn't a significant enough difference to have a meaningful impact on the results.

[@starboy7938]

Dankie vir die goeie raad,🎉 finally

[@NorthernBoltandTool]

dis 'n plesier!

[@narendrabhatia6140]

COARDED TOOLS R MORE RELIABLE THAN CORDLESS SPECIALLY FOR WORKSHOP AND FABRICATION IN FACTORY CORDLESS TOOLS R ONLY SUITABLE FOR SITE WORK WHERE THERE IS NO ELECTRICITY CORDLESS TOLLS R MORE HEAVY THEN COARDED TOOLS BECAUSE OF BATTERY WEIGHT BIGGER BATTERY 🔋 MEANS MORE WEIGHT TO CARRY