Does Fence Post Foam Really Work?

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Joe Everest

Joe Everest

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Fence post foam... We're all aware of it and there's a TON of videos about how easy it is to use. But does fence post foam work? Today I'm running an experiment on fence post foam to see what the set up is like and is it even strong. If you want to see my expert opinion on fence post foam, stay tuned to the end!
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Time Stamp:
0:00 Intro
0:45 What Types Of Posts Were Used
1:07 What Results We're Looking For
1:18 What Product We're Using
1:27 What is the Mixing Process
1:52 What Video Shots We're Using
2:15 Testing Phase 1 - Mixing & Pouring
3:24 Testing Phase 2 - Expansion
6:03 Testing Phase 3 - Curing
6:25 Testing Phase 4 - Final Results
8:30 Materials & Labor Supplied By Ozark Fence
8:40 Conclusion
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@mmcalifornia8600
@mmcalifornia8600 3 жыл бұрын
At first I thought this was a paid advertisement for foam. I'm happy to see this was an honest review. Thank you!
@kyorising
@kyorising 3 жыл бұрын
so wait, if you see a video that likes a product, you assume paid advertisement.. but if they don't like it, you assume honest review and not that another company paid them to say that? You either trust the source or you don't. This channel has given me no reason not to trust the information, positive or negative.
@smaestri
@smaestri 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought it was paid advertisement at first as well. Probably by the way he was describing what was happening while the foam was rising. It seemed like he was ‘talking up’ the product. I was curious to see the result and quite surprised that it ended the way it did. Thanks for the honest review. This is my first video of this channel and now I look forward to more. Cheers.
@dozog
@dozog 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyorising LoL... Love your logic. If you agree with "someone" they speak the truth... If you disagree it's "fake news".😁 (I mean.. I know that's what you are arguing against)
@mmcalifornia8600
@mmcalifornia8600 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyorising no you're trying to put words in my mouth and assume my logic. I was saying the video appeared to be an advertisement for the product at the beginning. After watching the entire video I can see he gave it a fair chance to succeed and he didnt hold back exposing the products shortcomings. I know you're looking online desperate for someone to bash to pump up your little ego. Take your little man syndrome somewhere else.
@prohandymanhonesto6867
@prohandymanhonesto6867 3 жыл бұрын
Me too 😂
@AnN-py2em
@AnN-py2em 3 жыл бұрын
Watching foam expand is a lot more exciting than watching paint dry
@MerryVulture
@MerryVulture 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I still spray foam after 20 years. Boss is still docking my pay when I stop to watch it expand as well.
@joedirt7119
@joedirt7119 3 жыл бұрын
Word
@midnightgardener8346
@midnightgardener8346 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@natrone23
@natrone23 3 жыл бұрын
Deep
@noneofyourbusiness614
@noneofyourbusiness614 3 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to dig around the foam after it sets.. and then use concrete... duh. I literally did this after experimenting with foam... Now my lean to shed is completely sturdy... thanks ready mix.👍
@Cgh432
@Cgh432 3 жыл бұрын
I have used just foam insulation with pea gravel and it has held up for 4 yrs . I used it for a privacy fence screen around my pool equipment . This is an actual product manufactured specifically for fence post how cool 👍 enjoyed
@TheChel2
@TheChel2 Жыл бұрын
Why is this so calming to watch? He’s like the Bob Ross of fencing.
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest Жыл бұрын
😂 thanks!
@bryanhall9996
@bryanhall9996 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I've built a ton of fences with this and a ton with concrete and here's my 2 cents. 1. The foam does work but it is very picky. Has to be properly mixed, has to be kept at a narrow temperature range, etc. 2. You have to go deep with the holes. 3 feet minimum. 3. You have to do a great job staking out the post. The expanding foam will push the post side to side if not perfectly staked. 4. You can easily carry 10 bags of foam in one trip. You cannot carry the equivalent in concrete. 5. The posts do feel softer than concrete, but I live in a high wind area and despite my home fence feeling a little soft, it's still dead level after a year of heavy winds. There's something to be said about a little give and take with wind. Now all that being said, I still use concrete and here's why: 1. I use fast set concrete so I don't have to stake out my posts. That saves time. 2. I only have to drill 2 feet deep. That saves time and muscle. 3. I only need 8' posts instead of 10' posts. This saves money and the 8' posts are lighter/easier to move around. 4. I don't have to explain the foam idea to clients. Everyone understands concrete. 5. When I compare the extra weight of the posts, cost of the posts, depth of the post holes, and stabilization of the foam posts, I see zero benefit in doing 100% foam all day every day. So, yes it works. No, it isn't a game changing miracle. It's just another tool to be used correctly on the days you need it.
@NismoSteez
@NismoSteez 3 жыл бұрын
After ALL that nonsense. "I still use concrete. And here's why" 😄😄😄😄
@jargabright23
@jargabright23 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the electric companies that plant electric poles with it
@bomorgan138
@bomorgan138 3 жыл бұрын
Jason A Methods for efficiently setting 8’ fence posts are a little different from methods used on electric poles, bud.
@wilkinsoncarpentry6278
@wilkinsoncarpentry6278 3 жыл бұрын
Charles Doodson 🤣🤣💯
@williamwalker6592
@williamwalker6592 3 жыл бұрын
Jason A haha power company’s just backfill with dirt.
@chadfarris4465
@chadfarris4465 3 жыл бұрын
I used this recently to install roughly 300 feet of privacy fence at my house in southern Indiana. IT WORKED AWESOME!!! My father in-law was so impressed that when we install his privacy fence this summer he’s only using foam on his too.
@townside_woodcraft
@townside_woodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
my local hardware store has a display made for this stuff, its a 4X4 post set with foam in a 5 gallon bucket, its been there in the store for more then a year , the post has actually come away from the foam and is lopsided in the bucket lol , yeah, wont be bothering trying it myself lol
@scottwillis5434
@scottwillis5434 3 жыл бұрын
May have to allow for a stream of customers wiggling the post, however that sure doesn't sound good.
@townside_woodcraft
@townside_woodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottwillis5434 its hard to wiggle the post, its just in a 5 gallon bucket, moving the post moves the bucket as well, i guess you could wrap your legs around it and push lol. this looks more like the foam has shrunk away from the post, it didnt bond or stick to the wood at all either , usually with spray foam you cant remove it from wood if you wanted to, you have to cut it away and scrape it off
@7evYT
@7evYT Жыл бұрын
@@townside_woodcraft I imagine the setup for that display was done as quick as possible too. These foams can work great, but they have to mixed very well and at the right temperatures. Maybe one day they'll come up with a foam that works 100% of the time no matter the conditions.
@francisniestemski2440
@francisniestemski2440 3 жыл бұрын
I used a similar product when I installed my new mailbox and post. I was done in two hours and did not have any shrinking problem. Holding up quite well, almost two years old. True once mixed you have to work very fast.
@giveithell2267
@giveithell2267 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the before and after. All the other videos I have seen reviewing these products simply show how they are using the product and fail to display the durability of the product. This video has sold me on using concrete for my upcoming fence project.
@brandonbell6171
@brandonbell6171 Жыл бұрын
Hell yea, give it some love
@HitokiraBattousai
@HitokiraBattousai 3 жыл бұрын
$12.70 price for the foam at home depot after seeing this I'll stick with $4.98 bag of concrete
@max_moto2877
@max_moto2877 3 жыл бұрын
Lol damn right tho
@cootarrieta1374
@cootarrieta1374 3 жыл бұрын
@Lord Jasper hahaha
@brianallen140
@brianallen140 3 жыл бұрын
Forget concrete. I've had great luck with crushed stone.
@jeremywarren7424
@jeremywarren7424 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianallen140 what size stone?
@brianallen140
@brianallen140 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremywarren7424 3/4 inch blue stone. Very common stuff. I'll also pour some sand in there too.
@budparrish
@budparrish 7 ай бұрын
In 2009, maybe 2010, I put up a wooden fence with 4x4 posts, replacing existing rotted posts in concrete. I put the posts 8’ apart on center with the holes 2’ deep. The span was about 250’. I used the two part foam and allowed the foam to make an above ground mound. In the bottom of the holes I put river stone so that the foam would expand and seal around the bottom of the posts and completely around the sides, making it hopefully waterproof the wood. Here we are 14 years later, there is no post rot, the fence has withstood two hurricanes (I live close to Galveston Bay), and is very stable. I do not remember the brand of foam that I used, but it foamed up the color of Great Stuff, maybe a little lighter yellow. I suppose everyone has a different experience, but I thought I would relate my own experience. I’d use the foam again, and might have some left over in a shed somewhere.
@stephaniecisneros1003
@stephaniecisneros1003 6 ай бұрын
I'm in Houston too and this stuff works so good. I think it's meant for wood and that's the problem he's having. Zero termites or wood insects. I like this stuff. Plus I can actually diy as a female with this stuff.
@ah-lez1241
@ah-lez1241 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for being honest and showing the down side.
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest 8 ай бұрын
Very welcome, always happy to help!
@kostasgt500
@kostasgt500 3 жыл бұрын
I've never used this foam, but have used a couple of sica 2 part epoxies holding 500lbs pieces of glass railing, both interior and exterior, and it was stronger than the special hydraulic cement we used to use. Really good stuff!
@raullopez1437
@raullopez1437 3 жыл бұрын
I used foam in wood 4x4 fence posts and it worked out great, waited about an hour and it was ready to put the fence pickets back. A lot less mess to clean up, that's a plus. I will use it again.
@mitchelljones6918
@mitchelljones6918 2 жыл бұрын
I used this product on 6 inch poles with cross pieces and it worked great. I doubt that I would have used it on steel.
@jasonbarner8215
@jasonbarner8215 2 жыл бұрын
I used this stuff on a 4x4 post I put in my backyard (South Florida) - has not had any problem in 3 years. Solid as a rock, been through all our storms etc and all good.
@dandesotel5954
@dandesotel5954 3 жыл бұрын
I for a living install Satellite systems, I have tried the foam you where demonstrating in the video and found similar results. I have however found a foam I like quite well and has definitely held it's own even with a 90cm round sattilite dish. Q-set 250-750, is by far my foam of choice. Only requires a 3" hole for a 2-3/8" post with a 150lbs rating.
@MarkDiamond2
@MarkDiamond2 3 жыл бұрын
I've used this product on 4x4 wood posts for a few years now (three or four fence projects), and every post is as secure as the posts I secured with cement. Also, when I pour the foam in, it starts rising also immediately and the hole is completely filled in less than 45 seconds. In your video, it took nearly one minute to see it start rising, and three minutes to get to the top. Also, none of the foam I poured contracted after the pour. In fact, I hit one of the posts with my small Kioti tractor a few months ago, and the post didn't budge. I love this stuff. I use concrete much more often (because of price), but when I need to set posts the same day, I use this product. Not sure why you had issues with it, but this worked as good as cement every time I've used it.
@mwrisneyable
@mwrisneyable 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me. Ran a smaller fence with this (only 5 post). Have no idea how this took hours to set up? Also did not have any contraction. Everything is still good after 3 years.
@terryhorsley1012
@terryhorsley1012 2 жыл бұрын
I used it for a mailbox post, 2 feet down, it is solid as can be.
@Pmc987
@Pmc987 Жыл бұрын
That’s the one thing that’s annoying about these type videos. Someone who’s never done something can’t fathom they’ve done it wrong and gives bad advice to a lot of people. Not sure if it’s intentional or incompetence, but it’s amazing how often I see this on KZbin
@lupusk9productions
@lupusk9productions Жыл бұрын
@@Pmc987 you watched him do it, what did he do wrong? not mix enough?
@jojojompheinmtl
@jojojompheinmtl Жыл бұрын
same here 20 fence on foam no problem dig 4 feet ;)
@MrBucala
@MrBucala 3 жыл бұрын
I used the SecureSet foam for posts that I sunk two years ago. I built a "perimiter deck" foundation and built a shed on it. It's held up well through freeze and thaw, and I'm very impressed with it. I was told Secure Set is far superior to the Sika product. The fact that you mix it with a drill motor makes it seem more thorough to me.
@omegoa
@omegoa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for fully dissuading me against using foam on my gate post. It may work well somewhere inline on a fence .. maybe 30 -50% of the fence-line, but absolutely not at the gatepost. Great video.
@brave_ulysses5958
@brave_ulysses5958 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! Not the results I expected.
@chilltime99
@chilltime99 3 жыл бұрын
You just saved me a lot of time a frustration. Thank you.
@Liz-ww3cm
@Liz-ww3cm 3 жыл бұрын
I wish commenters who are kindly sharing their experiences with setting posts with foam would include more details beyond just that "it worked for me" or "it failed for me." (Especially commenters who seem extremely passionate about their results being universalizable.) For instance: General location/region/climate? Was the dirt wet or dry? Was the post wet wood, or dry wood, or metal? What was the air/soil tempurature? This seems like a great opportunity to compare notes, and see if there are variables that correlate with sucess or failure...
@trevortremaine8468
@trevortremaine8468 3 жыл бұрын
See Bryan Hall's pros and cons. I used the Sika product in Toronto, dirt is moist, posts are pressure treated. Dug out the holes, sank the posts ~3ft and poured in the mix. Make sure the posts are firmly held in place otherwise it'll possibly move out of alignment while the mix is curing. It's not a bad product, but you have to plan it and be mindful. Set time is roughly 5 minutes, so there's very little "wiggle" time to realign things if need be. I would suggest using sonotubes for consistency - I did not use them for my project and think in hindsight it might have helped. The one variable I found was how much it filled up the holes. Overall, it filled 3 ft cleanly but it could be up or down a couple of inches. If you're looking for a finished look, it's difficult to top up the stuff - and you have to use up an entire bag as there's no way to take out a measured amount. I also don't know if it loses any integrity if you cut/shape it. It's easy to cut with a reciprocating saw and an average blade. The one load bearing post (for a gate) I will use concrete. You can save time by using foam but you probably have compromise in terms of at or above ground look. If you get the stuff on your hands, it's much like the insulation foam - gets quite sticky on one's hands. Posts overall are still firm - no wiggling like in this video. Perhaps it's to do with the soil?
@BCVS777
@BCVS777 3 жыл бұрын
Who has time to factor in all the variables you mention when concrete will work in about any soil conditions. Concrete is also less expensive. I know it has the drawbacks of weight, dust, etc.
@mrwascallyt9865
@mrwascallyt9865 3 жыл бұрын
there you go being reasonable and logical . aaannndd you're right variables matter ,sometimes a lot . you're basically describing " the scientific method ". temp and humidity affect a lot of things that " cure ".
@letsgobrandon6281
@letsgobrandon6281 3 жыл бұрын
It worked for me. It failed for my neighbor
@jeremyjohnson2229
@jeremyjohnson2229 2 жыл бұрын
It worked for me. I live in northern Minnesota. We went down about 2 1/2 feet and used regular menards ground contact 4x4s. Fine black gumbo. When the ground here dries it’s harder then granite i swear. We did use a sawzall to cut them flush with the ground. No problems. ( even did it with the posts for the small gate. ). We get snow easily waist deep and blizzards up here and still going. I would recommend concrete for bigger gates Our 16 foot double gate we just ran 1 in rods into the ground to make sure they are extra secure with the foam.
@MrMcbuck48
@MrMcbuck48 16 күн бұрын
Watched a bunch of videos on this... and all I can say is thanks Joe.
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest 16 күн бұрын
Very welcome, always happy to help. Thanks for watching!
@JL-kg2zl
@JL-kg2zl 3 жыл бұрын
I built 80' of fence using 12' 4x4 posts in Alberta, Canada dug down to a minimum of 4' for each post to get below the frost level. The foam did a perfect job and held every post super solid, I used 2 bags for every post and 3 for each corner. The reason I used them was beaucse I didn't want to mix concrete and haul so bags into my backyard since I don't have an alley for access. I would absolutely recommend this product and I would use it again for sure.
@jdpst20
@jdpst20 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this video. I commented on a recent vid about building my next fence for my home and yeah, traditional concrete it is. There is something to be said sometimes that doing things faster is not always better. There is a reason why structures that were built out of mud, clay and stone are still standing today. I'll stick with concrete.
@c0pyimitati0n
@c0pyimitati0n Жыл бұрын
Even with concrete your post is only as strong as the ground surrounding the post. If you have really soft ground then the concrete can become loose too. All the concrete does is hold the pole, if the ground shifts then the entire pole/concrete would move freely as well. It's not like the concrete bonds with the ground.
@ferntaylor5347
@ferntaylor5347 10 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with this product, I used it and it work
@GotTwins29
@GotTwins29 3 жыл бұрын
I used this product last year to install a new light pole in my front yard. It worked amazing. Mine is still solid as a rock even after our crazy Wisconsin weather. If I had multiple holes to fill I'd still use concrete though cuz this is an expensive product.
@brandonbell6171
@brandonbell6171 Жыл бұрын
Reforce it wit cheese
@pete1853
@pete1853 10 ай бұрын
@@brandonbell6171 - Oh yah. Pour some beer in der too! Dat'll take care of it, doncha know!
@grand04gt
@grand04gt 3 жыл бұрын
I did use the foam for my fence and did not have any issues and it has been more than 7 years since its been done. I chose it for the quicker set time and was happy with the outcome especially for my first fence post installation
@grand04gt
@grand04gt 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe i used a different one or perhaps in not allowing a couple days to cure i did not allow it to off gas or shrink before back filling
@josephmockbee
@josephmockbee Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that test man. I live on a 12 acre hobby farm. The pasture is a sequence of t-posts and intermittent 4-5” round wood posts. Fence is regular wire type box fence. All the farmers tell me not to use concrete. Would love to hear your insight on a fence to keep in large grazing animals. Thanks again!
@BlankaScrub
@BlankaScrub Жыл бұрын
I think the key is getting a specialized moving fence system for a farm they use the equivalent of big nails they stab in the ground and can yank back out using farm equipment
@rogerbradley7509
@rogerbradley7509 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve used this on a few of my post and I have never had any of these problems! The foam worked perfectly!
@lonedesertfox
@lonedesertfox 3 жыл бұрын
Which brand did you use
@aron6998
@aron6998 3 жыл бұрын
lonedesertfox probably the Sika brand it’s the most common, I too have used it and it works perfectly, I will say however this is largely dependent on two things proper mixture (he was mixing too slowly in all three shots) and soil type the more dense the soil the better sandy soil that’s loose will suffer to properly compact however clay soil like we have here in Louisiana this stuff is very effective
@elfpimp1
@elfpimp1 3 жыл бұрын
@@aron6998 good tips
@nickfdsasdf6540
@nickfdsasdf6540 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a professional photographer building my own fence in Wisconsin. I have to commend you on the quality of your videos. Keep up the great work! Also using steel posts for my privacy fence, so cool to see you doing the same :)
@HHh-ej4rl
@HHh-ej4rl 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm planning on putting in a wood stockade fence. Are steel posts that much better than wood posts? Thanks for the help.
@gregoryenste3883
@gregoryenste3883 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I just caught this video. I just convinced my customer that this stuff was an amazing breakthrough. Time to go back and reverse my claims. Hope I don’t lose their confidence.
@Rightlydividing-wx1xb
@Rightlydividing-wx1xb 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. When my wife brought this product to my attention I asked "will it hold tightly to the post?" I just now retired as a Industrial painter and sandblaster and I suspected the post would be loose in the ground. I've tried out alot of newer product over the years and FEW are as user friendly, or what is claimed, the exaggerated claim usually. Some things tried took money out of our company pocket if you will, cost for reblast and repaint. Some were foam type products. This is the first video I've noticed that actually tested this product, we are taking your word for it too. Dustless blast systems were all over the place a few years ago, I had questions they could not answer, I sandblasted into my 60s so it was a professional painter/sandblaster asking specific questions. The videos made it look like any body could put a face shield on and blast in shorts, not even masking trim on a car body or around windows. Pressure alone will ruin a car body in seconds, even with water keeping friction from the metal.
@mdcoomer67
@mdcoomer67 Жыл бұрын
I built my fence with cedar post on pole, and used Sika expanding foam. Had a great experience with the stuff, but you do need to be ready when you get to the point of pouring foam in the hole. My holes were deep, but only as big around as the post hole digger I used. The holes in the video look bigger. Used 2X4s and clamps to hold the posts in place to ensure they didn't move. No issues. I would say, that concrete is the way to go for any post you're going to hang a gate on. I used foam, but it couldn't support the weight. Had to clamp 2X4s to the fence rails to support the fence, unscrew the fence rails from the post, dig out the foam so I could pull the post, finishing cleaning the foam from the hole, reset the post and pour concrete. PITA!!! So, I'd say foam is OK for normal post, but not for any that will support a gate.
@kevinnix5495
@kevinnix5495 Жыл бұрын
You are a diy dude that doesn't know anything so of course it worked great 😂
@debrastone6764
@debrastone6764 3 жыл бұрын
We used the foam to put in posts for a driveway gate. That was 3 years ago and so far both posts are rock solid. We are satisfied.
@dustintunis9347
@dustintunis9347 3 жыл бұрын
Do you remember what brand?
@debrastone6764
@debrastone6764 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustintunis9347 I tried to find the receipt. My husband is obsessive about keeping such things but he said he had thrown it out two years ago. So very sorry we could not remember what brand but we did buy it at Lowe's and we chose the brand we used because the store had a couple of 5 gal buckets with the hardened foam and a fence post embedded in it. They had a little demo set up for everyone to see. We were impressed so that was the brand we bought. Hope you have the same good results as we did. It was crazy easy to use.
@dustintunis9347
@dustintunis9347 3 жыл бұрын
@@debrastone6764 - No problem, I'm just wondering if there is a substantial difference between brands and the one he chose for the video was sub-par.
@shanekeg
@shanekeg 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustintunis9347 i used the sicka like he used on my 1st post and had the same result ad he did, ended up pouring concrete into the gaps then i Used fast 2k from menards for the rest and that stuff worked excellent. One bag did 2 holes. Hope this helps
@AdamSmith-ew2xd
@AdamSmith-ew2xd 3 жыл бұрын
I used the exact same product. Here around Dallas the ground is rock hard clay/rocks. I used 1 of those for every 3 post holes. Not more expensive than concrete and done immediately. Mine foamed up faster but it was summer in Texas.
@ethankeller1835
@ethankeller1835 Жыл бұрын
Used this last year and it worked great on a 4x4 post
@Gershwin48
@Gershwin48 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this works. Five years and going strong. The wood 4x4’s are still solid. I also think this keeps moisture away from the wood preventing rot. It reminds me of expanding foam insulation and you know how sticky that is.
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know, I appreciate you sharing your experience!
@stephaniecisneros1003
@stephaniecisneros1003 6 ай бұрын
I agree 3yrs in and it's working perfectly I like it.
@Gershwin48
@Gershwin48 6 ай бұрын
@@stephaniecisneros1003 Now six years and doing great. I painted the bottom of my posts with white roofing coating, especially the bottom end grain. Still going strong.
@frankvonfrauner
@frankvonfrauner 3 жыл бұрын
This is why they tell you to wait 2 hours instead of 2 days. After 2 hours its still solid, after 2 days you see what really happens.
@SanaagSomaliland
@SanaagSomaliland 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, This is designed for cowboy contractors in mind - mix - pour - wait 2 hours - finish off your fence build within a day... get your money and go away. 2 days later all wobbly and unstable - not your problem!.
@mosdef7180
@mosdef7180 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if it would make good contact with the post. Glad you put this test out. Thanx brother.
@louielouiepks
@louielouiepks 3 жыл бұрын
I have a power pole in my front yard beside a a ditch. Nutria dug a tunnle from the ditch to the pole causing it to lean over about 8 to 10 degrees. I called the power company, they brought three trucks to straighten the pole. They pumped expanding foam in the existing hole. They did not redrill a new hole. The soil is mostly clay with some sand mixed through at different depths. Four years later and after hurricane florence pole is still solid in the ground.
@hughmungus913
@hughmungus913 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in Australia. I recently pulled an untreated hardwood post (about 12” diameter) out that had been in the ground for approximately 30 years. The wood was in near perfect, as new condition below ground, fairly good still above. They’d placed crushed rocks at the bottom and back filled with crushed rock and local dirt. We average about 1 to 1.2m of rain per annum here and get fairly hot and humid summers, sub zero in winter, termites, wood rot etc. I was pretty impressed. I’m sure the type of hardwood helped also plus the sap wood had been removed prior to burying. Not sure what it was though.
@jonnyb70
@jonnyb70 10 ай бұрын
only thing I added to the ones I put in the ground was to paint the bottom couple of feet with spray paint.
@blaynewayne
@blaynewayne 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you’re a natural on screen. Great video! I’m considering my options on my next fence and this was helpful. Your channel will be highly successful
@ScrewballMcAdams
@ScrewballMcAdams 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this demonstration. Helped me eliminate foam as a possible solution to my problem.
@bernardsaucier2062
@bernardsaucier2062 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary and description!!
@GrandmasterGib
@GrandmasterGib 3 жыл бұрын
Han't heard of Post Foam before so glad I watched. My favorite part was when you went too far into the future, still smiling at that☺.
@csn583
@csn583 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeEverest Appreciate your optimism that it was at worst Blade Runner rather than Mad Max or Waterworld!
@EtreTocsin
@EtreTocsin 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to share my experience with post foam….after removing the old subsurface concrete pylon, I used a square cement block and added gravel round the outside of the block an little bit inside (of the square block hole ) after my 4x4 was centered in it. THEN I used the foam to fill the enitre hole in the ground and also the gaps in the concrete block (with the little bit of gravel). We had a severe wind storm that ruined two other fence posts, but that foam one was standing tall and strong. So it really depends on how you prep the hole. I went off label and kinda did my own thing but so far it has worked out great and I did not have to deal with dusty heavy concrete bags. It was a nightmare though getting that old concrete out.
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I appreciate you sharing your experience!
@chriswright6425
@chriswright6425 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I was all in for this method for a couple lose post's on my fence..... so glad I waited till the end!! Saved my neighbors from listening to my swearing 🤬🤬🤬🤬
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest Жыл бұрын
Always happy to help!
@YourLocalHandyman
@YourLocalHandyman 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the extra time on that demo. I have always considered the foam method as a temporary fix while you plan and the client budgets for a more permanent solution. Reach out if you'd like to incorporate a method of pouring concrete into your post holes that withstands stronger winds.
@davesnyder1183
@davesnyder1183 3 жыл бұрын
I bought mine from Home Depot--I'm not sure of the brand ,but when mixing I rolled it up to break the seal then rolled it across my leg about 12 times then cut the corner and poured into about a 2 foot hole--I was also using a 2-3/8 steel fence post--I used the steel posts to hold up a double 6 foot inswinging gate and it worked fine--They didn't contract at all like yours did--Also they expanded a LOT faster that yours did--I'm not sure if maybe your weather was too cold as I did see you wearing a jacket---
@aron6998
@aron6998 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed it expanded way too slow myself, when I’ve used this it expanded much faster, I also mixed it more vigorously than he did too
@davep6977
@davep6977 3 жыл бұрын
the original expanding foam was in gallon jugs and they use in Alaska for the pipe line way back in the 70's because was too cold to pour cement
@doughty74
@doughty74 3 жыл бұрын
We built a fence last year using expanding foam, and let me tell you, what you see in this video is EXACTLY what happened to every single post we set... I was very disappointed. We have a good 50/50 sand/soil split where we live which drains really well, and even in very dry conditions, we still ended up with wobbly posts. I will note, that a few posts that we set after a small rainstorm seemed to fair even worse then the dry set posts. It almost seemed as if the foam was repelled by the wet walls of the hole and wouldn't expand forcefully into it like with the dry holes. I could be wrong about this particular aspect, but in the end, we wound up with very wobbly posts and will likely need to slowly replace them with concrete reinforcement instead of foam as areas of the fence are now leaning outwards, which is pretty awful considering it is only a four foot picket fence...
@tetravaal4
@tetravaal4 3 жыл бұрын
I have done 3 fences with this stuff and your correct.. So water content is very important for curing (foam uses water in the reaction) and if the post hole it wet it will mess stuff up. The brand I use (Secure Set) recommends drying with a weed torch or something else. Its not perfect, but I use it because I get tired of hauling cement.
@rutontuton
@rutontuton 3 жыл бұрын
We've used "Secure Set" and it works great, no movement and with wood there's not rot like concrete. I think each product may be different. We live in the Rockies where it's very dry and our soil is decomposed granite. The Secure set also comes in 1 gal bottle so you can measure out how much you want depending on the size of the whole. It ends up being cheaper than concrete.
@justinw867
@justinw867 Жыл бұрын
I used foam to build some planter beds and it worked perfectly. I wouldn't trust myself to build a taller fence with it but for a short planter it worked fantastic.
@Dog-ManTribe
@Dog-ManTribe 3 жыл бұрын
I've put up lots of fence in my life, I've used dirt, cement, and concrete. I used this exact same product just about 1 year ago to replace about 60 ft of my personal fence. I was out looking at it yesterday. While I got better results using treated wood 4x4's I would have to say it's worth it to go with quikrete or something similar. Unless it's a small fence that is in ground that won't shift or become saturated. Don't go with foam.
@neilwines3024
@neilwines3024 3 жыл бұрын
I have already bought 4 bags of the foam. It’ll be going back to the store. Thank you for the video.
@dabutcher8369
@dabutcher8369 3 жыл бұрын
@Zeus 1455 Prove it! Like the old saying goes "The proof is in the pudding"
@twsdlbh
@twsdlbh 3 жыл бұрын
@Zeus 1455 can you post a video of the experament? Just because it didn't hold for him doesn't mean he did something to make it fail. He may have gotten a bad batch. What good would it do him to make it fail? He installs fences not sale concrete mix.
@thrifty9797
@thrifty9797 3 жыл бұрын
@Zeus 1455 why get so defensive? Show your proof or walk, simple. Talks cheap.
@dabutcher8369
@dabutcher8369 3 жыл бұрын
@Zeus 1455 I've been to the hardware stores and have yet to see the display for the foam. The reason I came at you is because you went after Joe. If you can contradict what he said in his video put one up of your own to show it to prove him wrong. If not go kick rocks and go twirl on your post held by foam in a 5 gallon bucket
@Diggz11
@Diggz11 3 жыл бұрын
Concrete is king
@michaelyates4236
@michaelyates4236 3 жыл бұрын
So it's not just me! I tried this for my mailbox post using a 4x4 and ended up having the same experience. Within a very short time my mailbox had a list to it and I could move it all over the place. I ended up pulling it out (not too hard to do) and resetting with with cement. Thanks!
@georgeliquor2931
@georgeliquor2931 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a good honest review, you have my subscription sir.
@mattlesnake
@mattlesnake 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I am curious of what caused the shrinkage. I have never heard of or seen that happen. I have built 3 fences with the product and they are solid as the day is long. One of them is my own fence I am very happy with it. Obviously this product doesn't work in all conditions...it would be nice to know which conditions are better than others.
@gconol
@gconol 3 жыл бұрын
During the expansion phase, the reaction causes the gas to heat up creating the extra volume and higher pressure, but then it contracted when it cooled down before it fully cured.....2 hours is a long time. The fact that he's wearing long sleeve shirt in broad daylight shows that it was a cool day so the heat in the foam dissipated even faster causing it to shrink even more than usual and leave large gaps....
@mrbmp09
@mrbmp09 3 жыл бұрын
Cold pools caus shrinkage....so I'm told 😆
@raymarshall2995
@raymarshall2995 2 жыл бұрын
I used it, too, 3 years ago, and all my 4"×4" are solid as a rock. Fence is 8' tall, with 1"×6" boards hung horizontally. Beautiful fence, the product worked great for me, too.
@Pmc987
@Pmc987 Жыл бұрын
@@gconol yup while the foam was still curing I bet the temp was so low it caused the air holes to contract before it had time to harden.. probably same reason why it took so long to setup. I wonder if he would have had the same problems If he used a heat lamp.. or read the instructions. Maybe done the bucket test inside.
@gconol
@gconol Жыл бұрын
@@Pmc987 I would probably wait to do it in the summer time if that's an option.
@dcfunhouse
@dcfunhouse 3 жыл бұрын
I've used this foam on dozens of pressure treated wooden fence posts and it has been great every time. After several years, I have yet to have a post fail. I could imagine that on metal posts and slick plastic bucket surfaces it would have more trouble adhering. One other item I found to work well with the foam was to reinforce the foam by putting some rocks or broken cinder blocks in the sides of the holes and only then poor the well-shaken solution into the holes.
@stevetrivago
@stevetrivago Жыл бұрын
@@tailgatecarpenter26 Amen.. much respect to anyone doing this work for a living….
@ferntaylor5347
@ferntaylor5347 10 ай бұрын
Right, the same here
@212acres3
@212acres3 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking about getting this. Glad u made a video about it and save me money!!!
@jimlong3223
@jimlong3223 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I had a customer ask me to use this. I was on the fence about it. I am going to send them this video.
@larrycollins7106
@larrycollins7106 3 жыл бұрын
I used this exact product to install the post for my chicken and duck pens. I am in them daily and they are almost a year old. I have had no issues. I did use wooden post and was probably not as deep as yours. I had to trim the extra from the top.
@rickysafer2895
@rickysafer2895 3 жыл бұрын
If you mix your cement up the right way in a wheelbarrow it will last a lifetime and while the cement is still wet in the post hole you have a chance to move the post left or right if you are off a little on your lineup. Thanks for the video.
@THE_WOAT
@THE_WOAT 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video. Almost tried this stuff but thought better at the last minute, glad I did.
@whippermctingle
@whippermctingle 3 жыл бұрын
Man am I glad I watched this video. Thanks for this. Saved me tons of time and money.
@drugtalk101
@drugtalk101 3 жыл бұрын
You should try the same experiment except for once it’s pretty much done expanding feeling and packing it with dirt like you normally would then come back in a few days, dig up the top and see what you find. I’ve never had issues with this farm not for this particular use but I have done a fence post with it and it still standing two years later nice and sturdy but this experiment is concerning, I wonder if the oxygen has something to do with it too much air for too long
@granthartley3291
@granthartley3291 Жыл бұрын
Expert on industrial foam here. In my experience the curing Chemical has a pretty short shelflife of a few months before it starts to degrade. The older it gets the more shrinkage you get
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest Жыл бұрын
Interesting, there’s no telling how long it took to make it to the shelf and then how long it had sat on that shelf!
@davids7209
@davids7209 Жыл бұрын
How does this differ from home insulating foam. That doesn't shrink?
@mtbasshead
@mtbasshead Жыл бұрын
@@davids7209 even urethane spray foam will shrink if not mixed properly or if the substrate is too cold. Biggest problem we have spraying foam is heating the osb to 50 degrees in the dead of winter.
@davids7209
@davids7209 Жыл бұрын
@@mtbasshead How does your comment relate to this video? It's not the dead of winter so the foam shouldn't have shrunk. Just sayin'
@mtbasshead
@mtbasshead Жыл бұрын
@@davids7209 Did you miss the part of the sentence about mixing properly or just gloss over it?
@peviens
@peviens 3 жыл бұрын
I've used these to repair a couple of 4x fence posts and they did a good job. One thing I noticed in your video and is indicated in the instructions is the post must absolutely NOT move while the foam is rising and curing. During your video, the 2 posts in the ground moved significantly. Now for the bucket, I guess is does show the product pushes on the outer wall like you described. You were hearing the bucket expand. I'm sure the foam works much better with wood posts than metal posts as it most likely has better grip with wood.
@andreanr9337
@andreanr9337 Жыл бұрын
these were my thoughts exactly Philip - I am thinking that since I only have two posts to 'repair' and all the others are done (or supposed to be done) with concrete, this just may do the trick....
@swordmas7544
@swordmas7544 3 жыл бұрын
Honest review deserves a sub
@hugostryhanyn4330
@hugostryhanyn4330 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin ALGORITMS,YOU HAVE SUMMONED ME HERE!!!!
@srob0156
@srob0156 3 жыл бұрын
I used this just the other day to install a mailbox post. 36" deep hole 8" round 4x4 post. 1 bag filled the hole slightly over the top and it seems to be very sturdy with the wood to foam connection. It might be the metal or smooth surface to foam where you had the trouble. I would consider using this method for a fence but not for anything more load bearing. Your reaction time seems to be pretty slow, it was about 100 degrees where I was working and I would not have wanted to exceed the 15sec work time, by the time I squeezed it in the hole it was already expanding. So I would guess that temperature has a lot to do with how fast and perhaps how well this product works.
@mrcryptozoic817
@mrcryptozoic817 10 ай бұрын
For a mailbox, I'd try foam although that's an expensive ($25 per bag) solution for a throw-away post. Quikrete cement is sooo much cheaper ($7). And if the post rots off in 20 years, just dig another hole and put another post 2 or 3 feet from the first one.
@TheGrizz00
@TheGrizz00 3 жыл бұрын
Every job is different. I did a job in September of 2017 that required 2 6x6 set in the ground and built out to match the design of porch posts to hold a sign for a business. I used the Sika foam, and it’s been fine and rock solid ever since. Has even survived a couple of wind storms so severe that it ripped the sign panel off the posts, but they didn’t move. I did make the hole cone shaped as the product directions specify, and I cross braced the part of the post that is below grade to make extra sure that nothing would move down the road.
@thadleingang
@thadleingang 3 жыл бұрын
I was sooooooo looking forward to seeing this work. thanks for the warning
@tube71000
@tube71000 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! I work with polyurethane foams (that the Sika PostFix is), and there's a couple of things that stood out to me. TL;DR: Were the components at the correct temperature when mixing? The shrinkage of the pours was most likely caused by insufficient hardener/isocyanate activation throughout the foam (poor mixing and/or bad mixing temperature). Ultimately the shrinking is caused by not enough hardener/isocyanate in the foam, to 'lock' it in place. First of all, a couple of pointers for 2K/2-component polyurethane foams. The components of the foam are a plasticiser (a polyol) and a hardener (an isocyanate). The polyol is comprised of the main plasticiser (the polyol), a foaming agent (could be plain water, or some proprietary 'blowing agent'), an accelerator (a catalyst, some kind of *potent* acid), and a stalibizer (more plasticiser or silicones). The components react with each other, forming a few intermediate molecules and some gases, before forming the long polyurea linkages, which 'lock-in' the shape and volume of the foam. The formed gases are trapped inside bubbles, which then solidify, trapping the gases inside the bubbles (usually for insulation purposes). The solidification is wholly brought by the hardener/isocyanate. What I see from the video, and what Sika's material safety data sheets describe, it's a pretty 'green' system (no ozone layer depleting CFCs, nor that much super-greenhouse HFCs). So most likely a water blowing agent, or some LBA† 11-herbs and spices, and a 'middle of the road' isocyanate. I couldn't find the exact mixture ratio, but it should be pretty high (high is somewhere around 100:150 to 100:170 | pol:iso, by weight), as *a lot* of structural integrity is needed from the foam. If you go much higher than that, you start to get PIR, not PUR. You have so much isocyanate, that it starts to react with itself and begins forming Polyisocyanurate. † Literally: "Liquid Blowing Agent", tells about as much as "natural flavoring" in foodstuffs. The material data sheet indicates the following timings as a guideline: -15s | mixing 0s | pour 10s | rise time - after this, moving the post would tear the forming bubbles, and cause a poor interface layer to form 180-300s | fibre-time†† - a very, *very* large uncertainty here, most likely due to differing temperatures of the surfaces and the components (hey, it's outside, not a factory floor) no given time for tack-free time †† Fibre-time is the moment, when the intermediate molecules are exhausted, and the chemical reaction begins to form the polyurea chains. Usually tested by poking the foam around the projected fibre-time (a stick works, but a coarse threaded screw works really well), and observing when strands/fibres start to stick to the poking device. As to what could have caused the poor performance of the foam: The rise time was *very* delayed (around 45-50s), hinting that the components weren't up to a high enough temperature, oooor unlikely due to very, *very* poor mixing. The fibre-time was at around 270s, which is at the later side of the given fibre-time, further suggesting too low mixing temperature or poor mixing. Even further, the fibre time comes very late for the apparent temperature, as the 300s fibre-time is suggested to be at 0°C, and the video didn't look like it was near freezing. :D From those observations, it would seem that the components weren't at a high enough temperature for them to work properly, leading to shrinkage. The material data sheet gives 25°C (77°F) for 2 hours before use. And the MDS leaves out a very important temperature for a foam pour, the temperature of the 'mould'. I do get it, why they wouldn't mention this, as you're pouring it into ground. It happens to be at the temperature it just happens to be at. In any moulding process though, the mould temperature is extremely important. A rule of thumb that I was taught was: (recommended mixing temp in °C / 20) X target density in g/l (The MDS mentions ~1000g of product, and a final volume of 20l = 20g/l) So in this case the optimal surface temperature would be: (25°C/20)x20 = 25°C
@overgradkc3999
@overgradkc3999 Жыл бұрын
Seems like concrete doesn’t need all the math and whatnot
@gerardellis1127
@gerardellis1127 Жыл бұрын
That is some detailed information! Great to know, would be nice to see a follow up video at a higher outdoor temperature
@nickhassler2727
@nickhassler2727 Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you need 14 paragraphs to explain how to use it just use concrete. The entire idea of the foam us it's fast and easy. If I'm breaking out a trig calculator it's a hard no for me.
@joemburrell
@joemburrell 11 ай бұрын
It clearly says on the bag, when mixing you are required to force the bag against a 90 degree angle to mix the components… not with your hands squeezing the bags
@mikecf1
@mikecf1 10 ай бұрын
Great reply. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
@alejandrogarza4533
@alejandrogarza4533 3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm not professing to be an expert or anything here but and the company video for Sika the brand a foam which you were using they ruptured the air pocket and then they rolled it back-and-forth on the top of their leg just like you're trying to straighten out a sheet of paper instead of just rolling it back-and-forth the way you did I don't know if this maybe mixes it better and thus helps it to set better or what but you might oughta check that video to see if the way you mixed it doesn't affect the way it sets..
@MerrillFilms
@MerrillFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the right video... definitely over the knee to me
@MerrillFilms
@MerrillFilms 3 жыл бұрын
and the left lol
@simplytrolling6869
@simplytrolling6869 Жыл бұрын
We use rainbow pole foam around our utility poles and it fully expands and hardens in a matter of minutes. Years and years of use and never a problem. Now I will say, during colder weather the mixture will barely react when mixed unless placed near heat prior to use.
@Wanderers-Bulgaria
@Wanderers-Bulgaria 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! It saves me my time, money and effort to build my fence. Good job!
@MST406
@MST406 3 жыл бұрын
All the stress of a reactive adhesive with all the usefulness of those little foam dinosaurs you drop in water to watch grow. Brilliant stuff there!
@murda2999
@murda2999 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Hopefully one of the manufacturers or some installer that has used these products a lot can weigh in on what might have happened.
@timc7798
@timc7798 3 жыл бұрын
great video. I have been seeing a lot of hype about this foam lately. this really clears it up for me.
@rattratt12
@rattratt12 3 жыл бұрын
That answered my question. Thanks for the video.
@RyRyWags
@RyRyWags 3 жыл бұрын
I have switched to the expanding foam, from the old style concrete. For me it works! I've replaced 3 fenceposts. I was able to have a helper hold one fencepost, which allowed me to split the bag between two posts.
@gohdux
@gohdux 3 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t heard of this product before two days ago. I immediately thought that it could never be as good as concrete. Imagine this test in what we call in Oregon as black mud. In the summer it will crack open 4-6 inches.
@joshyingling
@joshyingling 3 жыл бұрын
In Florida I don't concrete any of my posts unless it's a corner or gate, they just rot off where the post meets the concrete. And if a hurricane comes by, my fence will just lean over and I can stand it back up and pack it in
@gohdux
@gohdux 3 жыл бұрын
Zeus 1455 It does make me ponder why he had such poor results but the product obviously has a following. Question. Would it work better if the foam could be stopped from going up which in turn would pressurize the sides?
@scottrobinson8590
@scottrobinson8590 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshyingling I live in Florida too, one tip is to just bacfill mostly with dirt compact then pour concrete in top portion of hole and above grade slightly with a slight slope up the post. (so water /dirt doesn't contact the upper portion of the post) below grade wood does a lot better so that portion lasts fine. It is just where you have the dirt,water, oxygen trifecta that you get the problems in my experience.
@joshyingling
@joshyingling 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottrobinson8590 yeah for sure that makes since. Thanks for the tips
@treeguyable
@treeguyable 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshyingling I live on the NC coast, just posted a comment kinda similar.
@miamitreasurehunter
@miamitreasurehunter 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honesty
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 Жыл бұрын
I was skeptical of the expanding foam at the start of the video. Now I know I didn't waste my time putting all that concrete around my posts. My fence was 50mm square aluminum powder coated posts. I reckon in future there will be a similar product that works a lot better. I will stick to Con from Crete for now. Thanks for testing the expanding foam. Fun to watch.
@Wyomingchippewa
@Wyomingchippewa Жыл бұрын
It's was a good vid but I've us d the foam many times there are other variables at play here ie: temp and the metal post slick surfaces no go 😁
@1puppetbike
@1puppetbike 3 жыл бұрын
One of the sturdiest fence's I've worked on had the posts set in crushed rock. I left the posts and replaced the panels. I still use concrete.
@adammacer
@adammacer 2 жыл бұрын
I set a couple of gate posts for my cousin last year with '3/4 crush' - set it them 2' deep and tamped it down every few inches of fill = solid as concrete and I see no reason why it'll be any different any time soon. If it does ever get pulled over by the weight of the 10' aluminum gate (highly unlikely) I'll dig out on the side that it's leaning from, fill & compact on the side it's leaning to, and it'll be good for another however long..
@ClarkJackson
@ClarkJackson 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for "I'll meet ya in the future", that made me laugh. Good vid on foam, I would have been pissed if I bought that product.
@ccar1332
@ccar1332 3 жыл бұрын
Worst part about it is that now you have a wobbly post... (who cares about the money!)... what do you do to fix the wobbly post? I ended up trying to shore up a 6x6 8' post (2feet underground) with concrete on top as I had about 6-8" to the top of the hole. It filled in around the foam a little, but I just should not have used the foam.
@programmingchicago
@programmingchicago 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched it before buying the foam. Thank you.
@JoeEverest
@JoeEverest 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome, always happy to help!
@kurteichholtz5913
@kurteichholtz5913 3 жыл бұрын
We developed a similar product to set telephone poles after hurricane Katrina. Normally the utility company digs a hole, inserts the pole, holds the pole with a crane, calls a cement mixer, waits for the cement truck, pours the cement, then holds the pole while the cement sets. With our product we had a bag in a box of resin and curative in a small bag, the utility could carry 10 or more boxes on their truck. Mis the bag into the box then backfill, after 15 minutes you move on and do the next hole. Our product is called Fast42K. This product may not be properly engineered or was under mixed. We recommend mixing over an edge of a tool box or tailgate like you are buffing a shoe. We brought power back to New Orleans with our product which set hundreds of poles. We even tried to pull one out with a tow truck! It is expensive but if you need to set a few posts, are in a hurry or need to set a mail box it works great, just be sure you MIX IT WELL>
@mattmcdermott4766
@mattmcdermott4766 3 жыл бұрын
We've used foam that's a 2 part on power poles in the ground.
@thoughtlesskills
@thoughtlesskills 3 жыл бұрын
Same, not this brand and it worked pretty well, these were temp poles btw
@i2rtw
@i2rtw 3 жыл бұрын
Power poles I’ve seen installed got the dirt pressed back in around them and that’s it. Granted they are at least eight feet into the ground.
@erictownsend6800
@erictownsend6800 3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t be using anything around a power pole.
@brunsy1990
@brunsy1990 3 жыл бұрын
pretty common with fiberglass poles, and I've seen it used for emergency replacements.
@mnkyuncl
@mnkyuncl 2 жыл бұрын
There ya go.
@paulc6035
@paulc6035 3 жыл бұрын
If you didn't do the bucket experiment I would have assumed the ground dried and shrank.
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel 3 жыл бұрын
Yea the smooth walls of that bucket really perfectly displayed how the foam penetrates into the earth just like he said lol
@VadimDrevenchuk
@VadimDrevenchuk 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he didn't follow directions or mixing instructions?! What do you think? If this was a common occurrence, the company would be out of business and liable for all the false advertisements.
@paulc6035
@paulc6035 3 жыл бұрын
@@VadimDrevenchuk I've read that he didn't mix it nearly hard or fast enough for an even chemical reaction to take place. I would likely only use this product in a temporary or emergency situation.
@VadimDrevenchuk
@VadimDrevenchuk 3 жыл бұрын
​@@paulc6035 I've actually used this expanding fence post foam for something completely different and it worked perfectly. My father installed a bathtub and forgot to stabilize it very well (it was rocking a bit). Using two-part fence post foam I pored a mixture of this foam into a 3" hole I made in a wall (from the back of the tub). The foam expanded and stabilized the bathtub from all sides and the bottom. in the end, it worked like a charm. Its been 7 months and the bathtub still solid, the expanding foam underneath the bathtub didn't shrink. It's very dense. Side Note: I couldn't make a small dent in this fence post expanding foam with a 16 oz hammer after 2 minutes, it was that dense. I had extra that was left in a mixing bucket.
@guy-tn2ud
@guy-tn2ud 3 жыл бұрын
I used foam for a large wooden mailbox and it worked great in an area that gets soggy in spring. We put it in when it was dry and have not had trouble.
@raymarshall2995
@raymarshall2995 2 жыл бұрын
I installed (13) 4"×4"'s in 2.5-3' deep holes, 7' apart, fence is 8' high, with 1"×6" horizontal boards screwed into the post. I, too, waited a couple of days. The 4"×4" felt like they were in concrete; couldn't budge them one bit. It's 3 years later, and my fence is still standing strong. I did use regular concrete for my gate posts and used a 4"×6" post for the load bearing of the gate, as well as, used concrete for the opposite, adjoining sides to the gate post, to add strength to my mammoth gate. I've never installed any type of fence, but as of now, I am still very pleased with the foam product. I bought it at Home Depot. I did end up using 1.5 bags on some of the posts. I let the foam bubble up as far as it wanted to go, then cut down the portion where I needed it removed. That part was not easy, it's hard as a rock.
@itomba
@itomba 3 жыл бұрын
Would not use for a fence, but my mailbox is still rock solid after two years with foam.
@markwise7477
@markwise7477 3 жыл бұрын
My brother in law was a an electric linemen. They used the foam on electric poles years ago. They have discontinued using it because the poles rot prematurely.
@wrongfullyaccused7139
@wrongfullyaccused7139 3 жыл бұрын
Useful video. Thank you for saving me time and money.
@joehammond8600
@joehammond8600 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, watching this helped me with my decision.
@loopymind
@loopymind 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's a bright orange shirt 😁
@truthseeker1532
@truthseeker1532 2 жыл бұрын
That’s crazy. I do mailbox posts with that same foam. I just checked one from 2 years ago and it’s really sturdy
@davideyt1242
@davideyt1242 Жыл бұрын
well a mailbox post weight how much? 30-35lbs including the mailbox it self, so it might be ok. problem is lazy people who think they can escape proper anchoring with concrete use this for fence posts as thick as a 10x10 and as high as 80 inches tall, or worse, for posts of a home overhang roofing etc..
@cruepprich
@cruepprich 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review. I like your scientific approach.
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